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'Wind farms are just gilded cons'

Thursday, March 29, 2012   by: SooToday.com Staff

The following letter was submitted today by Al Errington of Errington's Wilderness Island in Wabatongushi Lake, Ontario.

Errington feels the McGuinty Government's spending on wind farms "is really just a gilded con that has put tremendous effort into green washing themselves and the politicians who fund them at substantial cost to Ontario's taxpayers."

The following letter is addressed to Kelly Matheson in regards to the proposed Bow Lake Wind Farm project.

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Kelly Matheson
Bow Lake Phase 2 Wind Farm Ltd.
c/o BluEarth Renewables, Inc.
200, 4723 1st Street S.W.
Calgary, AB T2G 4Y8

Dear Ms. Matheson:

Regarding: Bow Lake Wind Farm notice entitled "Public Notice Under the Public Lands Act - Geotechnical Investigations" in the February 29/12 editions of the Sault Star and the Sault This Week newspapers.

The Lake Superior Coast is a high quality, pristine natural area that our regional tourism industry depends on for viability.

Our Lake Superior coast is rated by Canada Tourism as one of the 10 Best Drives in Canada.

Industrialization of our Lake Superior coast would damage our regional tourism industry which supports thousands of jobs and substantial economic benefits for our region.

Windmills are an unnecessary and damaging industrialization of a substantial socio-economic asset of our region.

Windmills are a paracitic industry that cons gullible politicians into funding profits on the backs of hard working tax payers.

The claims of windmills being a green industry are extremely dubious given the toxic impacts of the manufacturing processes of the generators and blades, the substantial transportation costs for placement and erection, the environmental and tax costs of creating transmission infrastructure to transport electricity vast distances from production point to point of consumption, the substantial line loss of subsidized electricity in the transmission, the need to have other types of generating capacity anyway because wind power is extremely unreliable, and the legacy of millions of tons of toxic waste in the blades and generators that will need to be disposed of in a couple of decades.

And although much of the toxic manufacturing processes take place in third world and exploitive countries, we live on a small world and we have responsibilities to the people of the countries we import products from.

I am strongly opposed to the plan mentioned in the notice.

The notice mentions that Bow Lake Phase 2 Wind Farm Ltd. is proposing to conduct investigations at 39 wind turbine locations, which would include developing drill rig access roads, clearing the trees from the locations and drilling boreholes at each of the 39 locations and at the location of a proposed transformer station as well as transporting personnel and support equipment to the locations.

The map included in the notice also proposes three MET tower locations.

I believe your group should do the right thing and abandon this project.

As an independent business person I am apalled at businesses such as yours that profit a public expense.

Our Ontario Government has serious financial issues as a result of funding “businesses” such as yours and Ontario has a difficult future as our government cuts services and infrastructure that support socio-economic opportunity here in Ontario such as education, communication, transportation and health care.

Our government has accumulated substantial public debt funding “bling” industries such as wind mills.

I am strongly opposed to granting your group permission to continue with their geotechnical investigations.

Al Errington

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KiwiOnASticK 3/29/2012 2:43:27 PM Report

Another NIMBY letter. I'd gladly take the windmill over the much worse alternatives of a coal, gas or nuclear power.

A wind farm spoils "one of the top 10 drives in Canada"? What's the environmental impact of building and maintaining these roads? How about the environmental impacts of the thousands of vehicles that travel the route daily? It's an equivalent argument to BP complaining about one piece of litter spoiling the beaches the entire gulf coast region.

Wind farms aren't perfect. But the constant letters of complaint need balance and a reality check against all potential alternatives.
Dictionary 3/29/2012 2:48:12 PM Report

NIMBY.

If you want a con, look at the remote tourism industry and it's agenda to limit access to crown land. Are you part of that con Mr. Errington?
david007 3/29/2012 2:59:01 PM Report

http://www.naturecanada.ca/advocate/wind.html
david007 3/29/2012 3:08:32 PM Report

ontora.ca
jowo60 3/29/2012 3:11:26 PM Report

Your right Nimby, alternative power generation is more harmful to the environment than windmills. The only suggestion I have is to do like Denmark and Germany and build supersized windmill far out from shore in Lakes Superior, Huron, Erie And Ontario. These countries build 5 & 7 megawatt units and place them 5+ miles from shore in the North Sea. Our little 1.1 Megawatt units are too small. People over here cannot think out of the BOX. Not in My back Yard is everybodies opinion.
Pick 3/29/2012 3:47:44 PM Report

Hi
Our power dam puts out more megawats than all the wind turbines in Algoma. Check it out SOOTODAY. No one is going to believe anything untill it is investigated.
Pick
LSARC 3/29/2012 3:51:56 PM Report

Phew the wind sellers are out in force today...must be the budget talk!

Hard to argue the point that Industrial Wind Turbines are an alternative to anything since they require constant balancing on the grid so have NOT, repeat NOT, got that yet? NOT replaced conventional fuels anywhere, they just make them work inefficiently...still proponents keep grinding out the same old propaganda.

Try notrickszone.com for a good translation of the German experience and insight as to why the poster nation for wind is building more coal plants and bringing on line old oil generators.
Thim 3/29/2012 3:56:12 PM Report

Nimby, yes he most definately was as a leader of NOTO, call and try to book a cabin from him with the idea of driving to the narrows and using your own boat. I tried and he told me that unless I flew in or took the train he wouldn't rent me a cabin.
I understand there is or was a sign on the Missanaibi end of the road that crosses Wobatonguishi (where he is)and goes to Dubreuilville, it read "Use of this road to access Wobatonguishi is prohibited", even though the lake is publicly owned and the road publicly funded.
Granted, it's the MNR which has admitted some of their staff have been allowed to obtain public lands under the table for private use including outfitting.
I'd be happy sharing the info.
Tom Brason
Pick 3/29/2012 4:04:34 PM Report

Hi
Our power dam puts out more megawats than all the wind turbines in Algoma. Check it out SOOTODAY. No one is going to believe anything untill it is investigated.
Pick
OnTheHill 3/29/2012 6:15:13 PM Report

Put the windmills in the water !! The only place they're safe. For those in the north, watch your property values drop as the windmills get closer. No, they are not a "farm." A farm produces. The grid is so unstable, right now, it takes constant management. Where is the savings --- will there ever be a savings ??? We're all for green energy but come on, let's get it right and stay on the back of the polititions until they do get it right.
XtraKrusty 3/29/2012 6:19:54 PM Report

I would love to see an analysis done on those outfitters, ex MNR employees?? or strongly apffiliated? there is huge corruption there and i would love to see Ontario returned to Ontarians.
MNR you dont own the bush and by god someday the rest of us will rise up and re-take whats ours.
Now on to the story, we have given up our landscape in Red Rock, and gave up PRIME real estate in the east and west ends of our city, I for one did not see any benefit what so ever in my power bills, and i dont see a whole lot of jobs come from it after the initial construction was complete so i say NO MORE WINDMILLS or SOLAR FARMS in Algoma!
Kanada 3/29/2012 6:26:25 PM Report

Transportation is more than just roads. Regarding hydro power we have numerous dams in Ontario that could be retrofitted with turbines to generate electricity and be a very efficient alternative to windmills. The biggest thing thing is the generating capacity is needed in Southern Ontario. We already have lots of cheap hydro here, but why are we paying so much for electricity here when we are right next to the cheapest electricity (hydro), with low transmission cost and very little line loss. Why do we have to shoulder the costs of cheap, subsidized electricity to southern Ontario. As to windmills being an alternative to fossil fuels, look into the actual situation. Windmills are too unreliable to not have other generating capacity online. Windmills are political bling.
Thim 3/29/2012 9:40:42 PM Report

XtraKrusty, the following are excepts from an MNR manual that was created behind the publics back with reps from remote-based outfitters, they along with the outfitters called themselves "Tourism Guidelines Working Group"....believe it or not.

Direct quotes...
The guidelines may be considered when writing resource stewardship agreements and must be considered when writing forest management plans when the
decision to conduct forest management operations may affect a resource-based tourism industry’s operations.

Tip: it is often a good idea to remove a suitable length of road in front of the access trap where the launching of boats at the removed crossing site
would facilitate access by water to the value being protected.
Tip: generally speaking the fewer words there are on a sign for controlling access the easier it may be to enforce the sign's restriction.

Tip: as an added measure of insurance, Land Use Permits have been issued by the Ministry of Natural Resources to tourist outfitters for sections of a road such as a bridge, culvert or gate so that the outfitter can be assured that prescriptions for access control
will be adhered to.

Education and communication efforts to explain that the purpose of the access control is to protect natural
resources can assist with achieving public acceptance.

You can read the entire document here
http://www.mtc.gov.on.ca/en/publications/rbt_forestry-e.pdf
Thim 3/29/2012 9:49:59 PM Report

More quotes on the MNR, this one a response from a complaint.
You also complained that some MNR employees own, or have interests in, tourism related businesses. You believe that this is a conflict of interest (COl) as the employees are able to implement policies from which they may benefit.

MNR has developed a Conflict of Interest Declaration Form which is to be completed by all staff requesting a conflict of interest ruling from the
Deputy Minister.

We made inquiries with the Ministry about this issue and determined that both
individuals had made the required declarations to the Deputy Minister's office and had received decisions which indicated that no conflict existed.

"No person holding an office in or under the Ministry and no person employed in or under the Ministry shall! directly or indirectly. purchase any right, title or interest in any public lands either in the person's own name or by the interposition of any other person or in the name of any other person in trust for the person without the approval of the Lieutenant Governor in Council". from Public Lands Act s.39

We obtained a copy of the Ministry Directive pertaining to the interpretation of the above section. The Directive states that "right, title or interest in public land" means the acquisition of an estate and does not include interests less than estates, such as licences of occupation or land use permits. Thus, it is MNR's interpretation that its employees are
not prohibited from holding certain types of tenure on Crown land.
Thim 3/29/2012 9:54:24 PM Report

And Orazietti knows all about these breaches to the law and our rights as Ontarians
V Martin 3/30/2012 1:12:53 PM Report

LSARC... your comments were right on the money. Not sure if you are aware of a report that was very recently issued out of the UK but there is a devastating one by Professor Gordon Hughes at the University of Edinburgh. It is entitled ‘Why is Wind Power so Expensive?’ What makes it so important for us is that the UK experience is almost exactly parallel to Ontario but they are a couple years ahead of us. The main findings? Well in order to make wind power work, they have had to install inefficient open cycle gas since this is the only source that can handle the rapid fluctuations associated with wind. If they had of used the higher efficiency combined cycle gas (which can’t handle the rapid fluctuations), they could have produced just as much electrical power for no increase in gas and without putting up any wind turbines at all! And at what cost? Well in the UK, the industrial wind turbines and open cycle gas is costing $120 billion pounds while to produce the same power with combined cycle would have cost $13 billion pounds! Read those numbers and weep, Ontario. A far less reliable solution, what this is worse for the environment and one that costs 10 times as much is what we got!! For another analysis, do a search on an Ontario Professional Engineer named Kent Hawkins who writes for Master Resources. His conclusions are almost identical.
Kanada 4/2/2012 1:51:31 PM Report

Regarding NIMBY (Not in My Back Yard). This electricity is being generated for Southern Ontario. We have no need for windmills here, we have lots of hydo-electricity which when you seriously look at the comparative technologies is much greener than wind and far more efficient and reliable. We have no coal fired or nuclear generators here. Why are the windmills not going into southern Ontario, because they don't want these eye sores in their back yard even though they will be using the electricity. And much of this subsidized electricity will go to United States and Quebec so they don't have to put wind mills in their back yards either. This is all about gilding McGuinty with green. Everyone needs to take off their rose coloured, or should I say "green coloured" glasses in regard to windmills and McGuinty.
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