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Firefighters union backs David O.

Wednesday, May 14, 2014   by: Staff

The union that represents local firefighters announced Wednesday it is endorsing Liberal candidate David Orazietti in the coming provincial election.

Progressive Conservative candidate Rod Fremlin, a former city firefighter, is a “great guy” said Rob Greve, president of the Sault Ste. Marie Professional Fire Fighters Association.

But Greve said firefighters can’t support the PCs, whose leader, Tim Hudak, has said he plans to slash public service jobs.

“Everything has a ripple effect and I don’t know the attack on the workforce is the right approach,” said Greve. “It certainly isn’t the right approach in our members’ eyes.”

Fremlin, who is described as a retired firefighter in an early campaign release, could not immediately be reached for comment on Wednesday afternoon.

Greve said in a release the union is backing Orazietti based on his support for firefighters dating back to his time as a city councillor.

Greve said Orazietti and the Ontario Liberals have had a good relationship with firefighters, removing the so-called ‘anti-squeegee’ law that prevented firefighter boot drives for muscular dystrophy and adding presumptive legislation that marks certain types of cancer as work-related for firefighters.

Greve said that contrasts with downsizing and cuts seen under the Mike Harris Progressive Conservative government.

The PC campaign in this election promises one million new jobs, though Hudak has said he plans to trim the public service by 100,000 workers.

"Government is not just about politics and policies; it's about people and their potential," said Fremlin, in a release on Wednesday.

The following is the release from the Sault Ste. Marie Professional Fire Fighters Association.

Sault Ste. Marie Fire Fighters Endorse Sault Ste. Marie Liberal Candidate David Orazietti 

Sault Ste. Marie’s Professional Fire Fighters today announced their endorsement of Sault Ste. Marie Liberal candidate David Orazietti.

“We believe David Orazietti has been a great supporter of fire fighters since his municipal council days,” Rob Greve, President of the Sault Ste. Marie Professional Fire Fighters Association, said. “His position on public safety means that he will be able to continue advocating on behalf of fire fighter safety and well-being.” 

“David Orazietti has worked with us as we asked the provincial government for greater health protection through presumptive legislation, as well as ensuring greater public safety protections.” 

“We support those who support us,” added Mark McKinnon, President of the Ontario Professional Fire Fighters Association.

“There is too much at stake in this election for us to sit on our hands, which is why we will be working for David Orazietti: to ensure that we elect people who understand the important role fire fighters play in our community.”

Greve added that, while a retired fire fighter is running for another party, the party platform on which he is running will result in reduced public safety, and that is why the Sault Ste. Marie Fire Fighters are endorsing David Orazietti.


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mosquitos 5/14/2014 3:45:32 PM Report

Vote PC and clean up this mess already!
B Boy 5/14/2014 4:02:53 PM Report

I thought the PC's indicated that police & fire were not amongst the proposed reductions.
JellyFisch 5/14/2014 4:05:53 PM Report

Yes B Boy you're right. Emergency services workers cannot be cut or laid off. But they still support their fellow public sector workers.
rockbanger 5/14/2014 4:12:28 PM Report

Be cautious of any UNION backing of any candidate.

The local fire crews are good men and their experience is in fire fighting and prevention. They are not skilled politicians and must not try to lead the public in any direction regarding voting.

The USWA were famous for backing the NDP and they spoiled many an election in this town.

Vote with your own intelligence and do not let any group influence your vote.!
Entity 5/14/2014 4:30:12 PM Report

I wonder why favour Rob Greve gets in return for his endorsement...
Dictionary 5/14/2014 4:42:31 PM Report

VOTE PC? Did any of you mouthbreathers even read his "2 years balanced" plan he was talking about today? Hudak is DELUSIONAL!
B Boy 5/14/2014 5:00:53 PM Report

There's no reason this discussion can't remain civil. Insults really are unnecessary.
right wing 5/14/2014 5:21:14 PM Report

Just check out how the poll on SooToday is shaping up.
Fremlin shows a strong lead ahead of David O.
The best thing is the P.C. haters on this site do not represent the entire Ontario public and all signs show they have had enough of the Liberals.
derand2 5/14/2014 5:22:11 PM Report

What a surprise. Every FF union in the province will support the Lieberals. That's because Wynne and Orazietti et al just bought them off with your money. Under recent legislation the FFs who spend 75% of their work hours doing nothing and who have the best protection and breathing apparatuses money can buy will now get huge compensation rewards for a slew of afflications that might befall them. And guess what, they don't have to connect that afflication with their jobs. Its "presumed" their jobs caused it. How about the two pack a day FF smoker who gets lung cancer. Nope, it wasn't the smoking, it was the garbage bin fire behind the restaurant on Queen that did it. Taxpayers just write me a big fat cheque and btw thanks Winbag and David O we love you soo much.
LSARC 5/14/2014 6:13:26 PM Report

Doubtful that a retired firefighter would be supporting plans to hurt firefighters...

Anyway it sounds as though you can feel threatened if you are on the Sunshine list otherwise not so much.

Hear speech by Hudak:
MYPOINT 5/14/2014 6:14:07 PM Report

is as follows ...

Although I do NOT like what has happened over the past few years with the Liberals, I still say , 'vote for the devil you know as opposed to the devil you don't know'.

HUDAK is a greedy little toad who thinks that he has all the answers when in fact, he has no answers as far as I am concerned. First he said he was going to create ( Govts. do NOT create jobs ) a million new jobs. Recently he said that if we stayed with the status quo, half a million jobs would be created anyways so he now has to only create ( again Govts. do NOT create jobs ) half a million jobs. Then of course, he is going to slash and burn as much of our public services as he can to the tune of one hundred thousand jobs. Therefore the bottom line is, HUDAK is delusional to say the least.

Just remember that if you don't vote, you have no right to complain about the Govt. you end up with.

PS> To the poster who said that the PC's are leading in popularity when it comes to comments made by the posters on Sootoday ... thank you very much, I needed a good laugh and you provided me with a dooooooosy hahahahahahahahahaha

As always, your views may differ :)
burt 5/14/2014 6:43:16 PM Report

is there no green party ?
Timbob 5/14/2014 7:05:07 PM Report

You'd have to be out of your mind to vote these crooks and thieves back into power!
divemedic 5/14/2014 7:23:59 PM Report

Just to clarify... yes there is presumptive legislation for specific types of cancers caused due to work conditions. lung cancer caused by smoking tobacco isn't one of them. There have been some good points so far in this discussion, and yes whomever pointed out that they doubted a retired FF would support a party that wants to gut and destroy all he also faught to built up in my opinion is wrong. The PC party is not the working class party. They stand for big business on the backs of the middle class. They don't care about the poor, or where their next meal is coming from. The best quote is that if you don't vote, you have no right to bitch. A non vote is a vote for the PC. I prefer the ABC approach... anyone but conservative. Support the strongest candidate which has the best chance to take down the PC party. Just look at what the feds have done to this country with their majority. Not the benefit of the working class... Remember Mike Harris... HUDAK will be worse !
soowat 5/14/2014 7:24:22 PM Report

B Boy 5/14/2014 4:02:53 PM Report

I thought the PC's indicated that police & fire were not amongst the proposed reductions.

This is the second time I've read a comment similar to yours. What I've read indicates Hudak will exempt only police and Nurses from his 100'000 cutbacks. The first was from Sam C. and I asked him tom provide the news article that said Hudak would extend his exemption beyond nurses and police.. So far---no response. I am now asking you to provide that appropriate news article or even Mr. Fremlin.

Bottom line is that if even your friends won't support you......
flyhawk25 5/14/2014 7:32:18 PM Report

Gee...I just checked out the poll here. So far the Tory candidate is leading by over 300.
Gosh. If I were Orazetti I'd just quit.
When I stop laughing.
I'm In 5/14/2014 8:27:43 PM Report

I could never understand why the working poor/middle class would vote in the PC's to lead you. Just look at what Mike Harris did to this Province in 1995 and only got one term this is the rich mans party, also look at what Harper has done with his majority the working poor/middle class have no say in how he rams Omnibus bills through the House of Commons. Look at all the Party Platforms and make your decision for the party that suits you on a daily basis.
I'm In 5/14/2014 8:27:43 PM Report

I could never understand why the working poor/middle class would vote in the PC's to lead you. Just look at what Mike Harris did to this Province in 1995 and only got one term this is the rich mans party, also look at what Harper has done with his majority the working poor/middle class have no say in how he rams Omnibus bills through the House of Commons. Look at all the Party Platforms and make your decision for the party that suits you on a daily basis.
CB4 5/14/2014 8:48:08 PM Report

Cops can be laid off, has happened in Oakland, Ca, military also
Prrrrrrr 5/14/2014 9:14:04 PM Report

The union that represents the firefighters, BIG DEAL!
ducky58 5/14/2014 9:33:52 PM Report

So does that mean that the FF have to vote for David O. as well just wondering .
All Is Well 5/14/2014 10:14:09 PM Report

Police, nurses and doctors will not be affected. So Hudak is going to dismiss almost 10% of the public workforce, but don't worry, there will not be a reduction in services. Who are they fooling? Next, Hudak will reduce corporate taxes 30%. The old smoke and mirror trickle down theory at it's best. Currently, only California is ahead us in incoming investment dollars in North America. During the presidential debates, even the Republican hopeful cited Ontario as a model to use to encourage investment with it's low corporate tax rate. The idea that we can't grow the economy without slashing and burning and that we all earn what they earn in Bangladesh, is ridiculous. We have already seen this before. The PC's strangled the province under Harris and it took years to get back to even.
Twistinwrenches 5/14/2014 11:40:57 PM Report

Just another example of union selfishness . They do not care about the health of our Province just their overpaid union jobs.
MYPOINT 5/14/2014 11:56:56 PM Report

is as follows ...


Where is this poll you speak of which you say is showing the PC ahead? Are you even sure there is such a poll? I want to see this for myself because from what I can read on here, it seems that there are many more who do NOT want HUDAK as our Premier because he will GUT any and all union contracts that have been ratified already. HINT FOR HUDAK ... if you want the working man to vote for you, don't tell him that you are going to gut his union contract ... just saying LOL

As always, your views may differ :)
KFM 5/15/2014 8:07:08 AM Report

I can't understand how a former public employee can back a party that will attack public unions! Which he was a member, try to gut pension plans, which he is living on, and I would say well, and finally reduce public employee's by 100,000? Talk about a two faced candidate, just the kind of person Hudak wants!
pruden 5/15/2014 9:06:30 AM Report

People forget where they come from and how they got where they are today. As for the poll on Saulttoday, I should imagine the numbers for the Conservatives are the members of that party.

The fire fighters union can say who they are backing but that doesn't mean all their members will vote that party. During the Harris years all unions fought the changes he was attempting to make i.e. volunteer fire fighters to replace our professional personnel.

Hudak is just another Harper people, don't get blind sided with promises because you have a distaste for public services, the people who do a lot of work for us behind the scenes

Please don't vote for a party because you have a dislike for unions, your friends and family members probably belong to a union and have had the benefit of them. I am a retired worker and get frustrated over the lack of emotional outpouring over the PC's ramming their reform changes over us. You've got to fight back and the only way is to vote a party in that hasn't got such right wing policies.
trj 5/15/2014 9:34:06 AM Report

Who can be more two-faced as Wynne and the liberals? Who has been gouging us in the past years? Ontario is on the brink of bankruptcy and people worry about some cut backs of some top heavy agencies! Give me a break! How many times have workers being laid off here in the Soo? "The cost of electricity is a key issue and in Ontario the rates have soared and are now among the highest in North America.
This is because of the Liberal government's "green energy" plan that offers subsidies to those that put up wind turbines and solar panels.The Liberal Government has violated our democratic rights and the engorgement by Wind Companies are causing net job losses.
Expensive electricity is stressful and there's evidence that it's forcing manufacturing employers out of the province.
Here's what each has said so far about your hydro bill:

Conservation is their focus. They'd require utilities to provide grants and "affordable" loans for people to make their homes more energy efficient.

There'll be hikes for most homes to subsidize low-income customers, you be paying more each month for this and then add the cost of electricity that will go up again. Wow! Can we afford any more of this?

New Democrats:
Piecemeal policy. There's very little so far. Leader Andrea Horwath announced Monday that she will "take the HST" off hydro bills "to put money back into the budgets of middle-class families." Further down in the press release, it's revealed that actually it's only the "provincial portion" of the HST that would come off.

Shock therapy: The plan is to bring electricity prices down, and therefore keep industrial employers HERE, by ending those Liberal subsidies for wind and solar costs, cutting the hydro bureaucracy and yes some jobs. This election boils down to a choice: Do you like things the way they are, or do you want big changes?

The Conservatives offer radical change. The Liberals offer their record over the past 11 years which is? The New Democrats offer tweaks on the Liberal program. And those basic distinctions are true of a lot more issues than just your electricity bill." Not much of a choice but I will chance the PC for their honesty and trying to turn this once Great Province of Ontario back to being just that! They get my vote!

Ricatoni 5/15/2014 12:50:52 PM Report

Eliminate the wages ,benefits ,and pensions of all politicians. In return every single person in the country is an instant millionaire...politicians the biggest money sucking problem we have in our country and province.get rid of them all they are the problem
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