Sault resident tired of streetwalkersWednesday, March 13, 2013 by: SooToday.com Staff
A resident of Sault Ste. Marie is concerned with the problem of prostitution in her neighbourhood.
The woman, who has asked not to be identified, told SooToday.com she has seen women in the sex trade approaching customers on her street and on several nearby streets.
“They’re right across the street from me. When I look out the window, that’s what I see.”
The resident told us: “It doesn’t happen every night, but sometimes every night for five or six nights in a row.”
“I’ve seen them getting into cars. The ‘Johns’ (clients of prostitutes) know where to go,” she stated.
There are usually one or two women at once standing on the street, she says.
“One of them will get picked up and then a different one will come along.”
The resident told us she has approached the women on the street before and has asked them to leave the area.
“They tell me to keep off their corner.”
“The Police have told them to move along, and they do. Sometimes there’s not enough evidence for them to make an arrest.”
The resident told us she has contacted Sault Ste. Marie Police Service this week, along with the two City Councillors who represent her ward.
“It lowers the quality of life in the neighbourhood,” the resident told us. “I just don’t like it. There are children here, people who walk their dogs. I have talked to the police, and they do their best.”
“I have nothing against the women, but it’s not good to see them on the corner. It brings in drugs and crime,” she stated.
Though the presence of used needles may not be related to the presence of prostitution in this particular case, the resident told us: “In the past I’ve found needles in my hedge. My neighbours have found needles and so have I.”
She said she would like to see a storefront police office in the neighbourhood, adding surveillance cameras near her area would be another good option.
Constable Sonny Spina of Sault Ste. Marie Police Service, speaking to SooToday.com, said while there are no stakeouts in place, “Officers on patrol are aware of the problems in any given area.”
Spina said: “We’ll continue to respond to these calls when we receive complaints, and we are going to respond appropriately.”
When asked about the area the resident is concerned with, Spina did not characterize it as a problem area.
“Things are different from day to day. We take every incident as an individual incident, and we treat it and investigate it as such. We don’t paint every incident with the same brush. We don’t apply evidence from other investigations to subsequent investigations.”
In August 2012, nine women were charged with prostitution in a four-day police operation in the area of Albert Street East near Gore Street.
In another sting, 20 men in Sault Ste. Marie were charged in August 2010 with obtaining the services of a prostitute.
The Court of Appeal for Ontario in 2012 found that rules outlawing bawdy houses violated the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and were unconstitutional.
That ruling has been challenged by the federal government and will go before the Supreme Court of Canada.
Meantime, the rules against street walkers are clear.
Section 213 of the Criminal Code of Canada states:
Every person who in a public place or in any place open to public view:
(a) stops or attempts to stop any motor vehicle,
(b) impedes the free flow of pedestrian or vehicular traffic or ingress to or egress from premises adjacent to that place, or
(c) stops or attempts to stop any person or in any manner communicates or attempts to communicate with any person for the purpose of engaging in prostitution or of obtaining the sexual services of a prostitute is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.
PS64 3/13/2013 8:26:18 AM Report
There is a solution. Stand out there with some type of video device and not 1 "JOHN" will stop to pick them up. Each time they show up, do that and they will not stay there for long.
jojoe71 3/13/2013 8:26:45 AM Report
I guess these girls are not good enough to get hired by our local dating services. Hell of a way to make a living; you never know what kind of vermin is picking them up.
JustMe1234567 3/13/2013 8:46:46 AM Report
I'm not sure why Mr. Spina would say "any given area" we all know the area is Albert and Tancred/Blucher.
As the person in the article says, I also have nothing against these women. But I have been literally flagged down! I thought the woman was in some kind of distress and needed help. duh. She was out of her mind on dope, eyes a twitchin, looking for a trick. No doubt to go get more drugs, do shoot them, and come back out to make some money for more.
The thing that really annoys me is all the tourists that take this route heading into town off the bridge seeing that, or possibly getting flagged down like I did.
How embarrassing for our city to see that as a first impression!
And all you johns out there...stop going to these girls! They may be cheap, but there is a reason for that! They are strung out!
I implore you to spend the money and go to one of the legit dating services in town.
I really hope the law passes and the bawdy house concept is allowed, then these johns will have NO excuse to pick up the streetwalkers along Albert.
Just my opinion.
Mr. Poster 3/13/2013 8:48:47 AM Report
THIS IS not UNIQUE TO SSM. It is the worlds oldest profession and when they make it LEGAL..it will then go away.
TFinn 3/13/2013 8:57:30 AM Report
PS64 3/13/2013 8:26:18 AM
I don’t suggest approaching, you may bite off more than you can chew. If you want or can , try to get licence plate numbers and description of the vehicles, and call it in.
If any school bus driver can take a plate number and call it in because of an infraction of a vehicle not stopping for the school bus and get immediate response from the police then I would imagine this could work for the hookers and john’s as well. With a description and plate number the cops will have something to go on. If it is known this is taking place, it may deter the johns from coming in that area ….thus no business to be done. Just a thought …!
BlackHelix 3/13/2013 9:11:33 AM Report
“It lowers the quality of life in the neighbourhood,” the resident told us.
You live in the albert/gore area. What "quality of life" did you think you were getting?
I see, you're $40,000 house was a good deal because you're just so smart at real estate investing....
Bono 3/13/2013 9:15:56 AM Report
Can this lady please inform us when they are there and they are good looking??? That would help greatly so we don't have to waste our time going out.... Thanks!
sinikka 3/13/2013 9:16:48 AM Report
i hate to point out the obvious. Did the lady who wrote the letter not know that this was going on in her neighbourhood when she purchased her home. If not she was the only one who did not. The downtown core in every city in canada and the u.s. has this issue. Do you think that this is going to go away. It is the oldest profession known to modern man. So you put a police storefront and then they move, do we put up another police storefront. How about crack houses that are in that neighbourhood, they don't bother you. How about the break and enters in that neighbourhood , do they not bother her. Sorry but you got what you bargained for in that area. My recommendation to you.....move.
libster 3/13/2013 9:27:57 AM Report
I grew up in the central area of this city. I think your statement is sanctimonious and flat out RUDE!!! Bargained for??? Who exactly do you think you are? This area is filled with hard working good people raising good kids!!!! Just because we are not mortgaged to the teeth to impress like minded fake individuals doesn't mean we do not care about our neighbourhood!!!!
TFinn 3/13/2013 9:37:03 AM Report
BlackHelix 3/13/2013 9:11:33 AM
What's your point ....does it really matter where and what type of house. There is no reason any neighbourhood can't be a comfortable and safe area to live in. Maybe it's what this person can afford or they have lived there many years. Better than being homeless, at least they purchased a home. Just found your comment demeaning someone because of where they live uncalled for …that’s all.
BTW do you own your home, and what type of neighbourhood do you live in .?? Would you like hookers and johns and drug activity happing where you live..?? Don’t think so.
butterfly.cleaning 3/13/2013 9:50:49 AM Report
I live in the downtown area and its got to the point that I'm afraid to walk down albert, gore etc because when I have in the recent mths, I had cars pull up to me and as 'how much?, 30?'. I was so disgusted, I felt like crap that 'johns' just assume anyone walking there is a hooker. These ladies that 'work', cannot get hired by 'dating' services because the decent men willing to pay a bigger dollar won't hire girls with poke holes that are dirty. The men that hire these girls are low, cheap and sick.
pruden 3/13/2013 9:56:40 AM Report
TFinn excellent response.....what a world we live in!!
sinikka 3/13/2013 9:56:54 AM Report
Caring about your neighbourhood is one thing but going out in the rain and then complaining that you got wet is another. Those same hardworking people who care about their kids as you state should move. There are not enough police in this city to handle the drug abuse, the break and enters , the vandalism, so a change of scenery is your best bet. Sorry it hurts to hear it but it is the truth. good luck to you.
kamen 3/13/2013 9:59:51 AM Report
Have a camera ready near your window, when a 'john' drives up start recording, then the officers will have proof.
skipper dave 3/13/2013 10:03:26 AM Report
We have seniors who live by themselves and this is one area of town they can afford to rent. But they live in fear with no other options. We also have seniors who have raised their families and are living out their lives in their family homes.
Wicket 3/13/2013 10:05:22 AM Report
Some of the remarks on here are disgusting and demeaning to both the hookers and homeowners. People addicted to drugs will do anything to get their fix. Women have bodies they can sell to men that want them; men do break and enters - which is the more dangerous?
Many, if not most, of the homeowners in that area were there before this 'trade' started in the numbers that have been stated in the past couple of years.
Take a look at the size and quality of most homes in that area, the same type were built further west on Cathcart, Albert and Alexandra; and further east from Pim to Pine. If someone can pick up a quality home for 1/10 of what a similar home is selling elsewhere, then why not.
It is the JOHNs who are the problem, if they would stay away, the females would have to move on....just saying.
habber 3/13/2013 10:06:01 AM Report
most of the johns would not know where to go to get the hookers if there was no original story that informed half the johns where to get these services lol
email@example.com 3/13/2013 10:18:27 AM Report
Had the same problem when I lived in Kitchener. One woman took her garden hose and sprayed them down for several nights. They never returned. But did just move further down the road.
Beej 3/13/2013 10:19:17 AM Report
I feel sorry for these girls, that's no way for anyone to have to live especially if it's fueled by addiction.
As far as living in the neighborhood where it goes on, if it bothered me I would move, you know they won't.
browl 3/13/2013 10:31:18 AM Report
Pretry sure u guys missed the part it said " not a recogonized problem area
steve53000 3/13/2013 10:53:09 AM Report
As one person said I picked up by accident thinking she needed help
Me: where are you going
her: i'm working
Me; ya I m going to get coffee and go to work
Her; NO I'm working
Me Duhhh sorry thought ya needed a ride' stop truck let her out
feel like an idiot
sorry but they should have a safe place to work I beleive
Stugatzu 3/13/2013 10:54:38 AM Report
While it sounds like a good idea to make these street walkers and their clients aware that you are video taping them -- I would strongly suggest reconsidering such a thought to avoid any type of physical conflict. You don't know what the street walker or customer will do as a reaction to such a behavior. They may get violent, or they may retaliate by getting their pimp involved... or even watch to see where you live and attack you at home or rob you while you're gone.
If you're going to use video surveillance as a deterrent you certainly want them to know that they are being recorded, but you'd also want them to know you are surrounded by like minded individuals who will protect you or call police if you're approached. In short.. you need a posse or a very active neighborhood watch program in effect. Maybe you can speak to people on your street and form such an organization.
Best of luck to you.
butterfly.cleaning 3/13/2013 11:39:53 AM Report
I'm getting a kick out of some of these comments. Like telling ppl they should move?? Really?? They pay for their homes, most of these people work hard to pay for these homes, and you think they should move instead of the hookers? Wow! Unbeleivable! Maybe the hookers should be asked to move to a richer neighbourhood? They will never go away!! They will get picked up, their names will go on sootoday, then they will be back on the streets and the cycle will keep repeating itself. I'm sure there may be cops or lawyers, etc that pick these girls up for pleasure too. The only solution is open a 'brothel' or other house for these girls and let em do their thing there, where its safer and where they're not bothering anyone and where there could be proper amenities like condoms, showers, clean needles, etc.
Studlee 3/13/2013 11:43:55 AM Report
I'd give this story a second thought and read the whole thing if the person bitching and complaining was brave enough to give her real name. Why are folks so afraid to give their names? WHy can't they own up to what they want to say? Is this real or is it just someone's paranoid delusions?
if the skank problem on your street is real and legit, get your neighbours in on it. All you need is a good mob mentality behind the situation and they will go somewhere else. Seriously, get the neighbours together and approach them in a group, open your big fat mouths and let the intimidation flow. Believe me, when they know that the whole street is aware and acting together, they will leave!
JustMe1234567 3/13/2013 11:57:33 AM Report
Ummm no Studlee, vigilante justice is NOT the answer!
That is why our tax dollars pay police, so citizens do not have to take these things into their own hands.
And to those who are RUDE enough to post that if you live in the area you deserve it...get a grip. That is such an awful stupid thing to say.
Many seniors have no choice but to live there because it is affordable. Many kids have to grow up there, living there is not the problem, the hookers and drugs are the problem!
I shake my head in disgust that anyone would say "just move". tsk tsk.
Wobbler 3/13/2013 11:58:35 AM Report
Studlee: Great thinking there!!! Let everyone know your name and have your home vandalized or broken into. Worse yet, be physically attacked by the hookers or their pimps while coming home at night.
It is our mayor, city counsel and our "illustrious" police force who need to get their acts together to solve this problem. Or maybe even get a police officer on the job who takes better notes and doesn't brush this off as unimportant.
bonnie&Clyde 3/13/2013 12:04:58 PM Report
and is studlee your first or last name
crashed13 3/13/2013 12:09:04 PM Report
I like the idea of prostitution to support there crack habit rather then break and enters and store hold ups.
Maybe the should be more males standing out there.
May create a work ethic at least.
havenesegal 3/13/2013 12:16:40 PM Report
Have u tried closing yr curtains???? what happens on the street is not yr problem!!
jade 3/13/2013 12:16:40 PM Report
start takin pictures of them and who ever stops for one i bet thier busness will slow down and get rid of the trash of the streets try it
Studlee 3/13/2013 12:26:19 PM Report
Woah, hold up there coach, who said anything about vigilante justice? I said to get the neighbours in on it and approach with intimidation, not violence. What are they gonna do? break into everyones house? Kill everyone on the street? I don't think so. Too many people are living in fear, and this is a really stupid thing to be afraid of. if you want to make a difference, if you want to see change, actually do something about it instead of flapping off your cake hole to a news agency. Done, enuff said. Now flame away.
sinikka 3/13/2013 12:27:32 PM Report
just me wrote: Many seniors have no choice but to live there because it is affordable.
do you not realize that it is affordable because it is a less desirable area to live in. The other reason is because there are prostitutes and drug addicts among the residents. So it essence it is affordable only due to the same things you complain about. Unfortunately one comes with the other.
Studlee 3/13/2013 12:29:03 PM Report
And FYI, I live in the alleged neighbourhood and have never seen anything of the sort.
sunnie 3/13/2013 12:36:51 PM Report
Wow, it never fails to surprise me on how ignorant people can be. My heart is kind to all.
There is definitely a problem in that area and it is up to our Police Force to do something about it.
These women that are doing the drugs and the hooking need help. Instead of jail they should be forced into treatment centers for no less than a year.
These Johns as you call them, now they should be publicly humiliated with their names printed in the local paper which includes a jail term. Maybe that would help.... Just saying...
dadal 3/13/2013 12:52:38 PM Report
Ok...best solution is a "legal" place for these women to work out of. Away from the downtown area. How about the large closed car dealership for sale on Pim street? Lots of parking for Johns, still central area. many rooms to accommodate everyone, a nice reception area, heck even enough room to have condom vending machines or on staff nurses. So many out of work health care workers in the city would appreciate a paycheck too.
Think of the employment opportunities we can create from this. Think of the tourism from marketing. We can't get the Gateway project up and running so let's harness our local resources and create more jobs.
Wisenheimer 3/13/2013 1:04:05 PM Report
dadal .. the facility you suggest would employ the "Julia Roberts" type of working girl. Would do no good for the drug addled types found on the downtown street corners.
Bad Dawg 3/13/2013 1:04:22 PM Report
You all make good points but put them all together.
Get together with your neighbors and form a communtiy watch... we all have computers and it is nothing to hook up webcams. If you all have cams watching each others homes and put up signs of video recording... hell go right up to them and tell them as a neighborhood you won't stand for it.
Pimps will not break into your house... they are cowardly weasels who prey on easy targets. I am sure if they know they are "under survailance" they will just move to a different place. Our citzens should not have to move!!
I have lived in other cities where it is a way bigger problem with very young people getting into "the trade". As a community we can stop this now!! Send em back down to the bigger cities. I am one that still believes in the small town values of Sault Ste Marie!!
JustMe1234567 3/13/2013 1:18:57 PM Report
"Studlee wrote: And FYI, I live in the alleged neighbourhood and have never seen anything of the sort"
HAHAHA, you must be a john, biker or a pimp then. I don't live in the area and have driven by and see it ALL THE TIME.
And have you ever tried to reason with a sketched out junkie on a street corner?? Give it a try and let us know how that goes for you.
just me wrote: Many seniors have no choice but to live there because it is affordable.
Do you not realize that it is affordable because it is a less desirable area to live in. The other reason is because there are prostitutes and drug addicts among the residents. So it essence it is affordable only due to the same things you complain about. Unfortunately one comes with the other."
- That is complete BUNK! Some people have no choice on pensions to go live in a 'desirable' (as you call it) area.
Checked out the prices on rent lately in the Soo? Ya didn't think so.
Our society must make it right and possible for old people not to fear the young or be deserted by them, for the test of a civilization is the way that it cares for its helpless members.
~Pearl S. Buck
Jamie333 3/13/2013 1:21:52 PM Report
There shouldn't be prostitutes out flagging down cars ANYWHERE in this city. It's called the damn internet, post some personal ads. Get some regulars, work for one of the agencies or the strip club if your so inclined. There are many options to keep them off the streets.
It's gross and many people are sick of seeing them.
There would be no reason for these girls to stand out there if nobody picked them up. The "men" who are stopping to pick up these "women" are straight up nasty. Maybe they want to get a better deal than they could get by calling one of the many escort services in town but I wonder if they care how many of the girls on the street have serious s.t.d. 's. Escort services have their employees checked out regularly. Aids doesn't go away people.
Oh, and I thought that coming off the bridge and seeing prostitutes post was kind of silly since the first thing you see when you come into town is the Studio 10.
libster 3/13/2013 1:31:27 PM Report
sinnika.... Where do you think the johns are coming from? Not this area I'll tell you that!!!! They pull in here from areas like yours (for example). If there wasn't a demand there would be no supply!!!! Maybe you yourself have cruised the area and gone back to your falsely perceived perfect neighbourhood thinking nobody knows. You are full of it!!!!!!
libster 3/13/2013 1:40:19 PM Report
If the prostitutes moved to your neighbourhood you would pretty angry if you were told to just move!!!!!!!
sinikka 3/13/2013 1:42:22 PM Report
ibster, call it what you want. But this has been going on in this neighbourhood for decades. Don't blame the johns, if it wasn't for the johns these same women would be breaking into your house trying to fuel their habits instead of working street corners. I am not condoning any of this behaviour, but don't play both end of the debate. The reason the houses and the rents are cheaper in the downtown core is because it is a less desirable area to live . Why is it less desirable , because there are streetwalkers and it is a haven for the drug trade . very simple really but it sounds alot worse when someone else says it.
libster 3/13/2013 1:57:28 PM Report
sinnika.....You know nothing of this area obviously!! It is not populated by druggies and prostitutes. It is on one block in a small area where the problem exists. If you are going claim to preach the truth maybe you should know it first!!!!
spazz 3/13/2013 1:59:00 PM Report
"JUST ME" says that "STUDLEE" must be a John, BIKER, or Pimp???? What the HELL does driving a motorcycle have to do with Prostitution????? Instead of commenting on everyone elses, maybe you should proof read your own bias replies!!!!
sinikka 3/13/2013 2:34:21 PM Report
libster according to the sault resident who lives there it is populated by streetwalkers and druggies. Is this not the essence of the article. I also will tell you libster that i have owned and still own property in the downtown core so i am real familiar with what goes on in the area. There have been two murders within one block of the area in the past few years. The police is well aware of the drug trade in the area. I am sure that there are many, many good hardworking , family oriented people in the area but the other element is very visible as well. Take off the blinders.
shju 3/13/2013 2:42:43 PM Report
whats the big deal about people standing on the corners? they arent bothering you so whats the big deal. oh noes you have to look at them. what rights do you have over them? do you own the sidewalks and roads? its a free country. the girls gotta do what they gotta do to survive. instead of making negative comments and trying to remove them by whatever means try giving them a helping hand.
BlackHelix 3/13/2013 2:43:14 PM Report
@TFinn and libster
As a response, yes I own a home. Would I like "hookers and johns and drug activity" where I live? No - That's why I bought a house where that doesn't exist. And while were on that, assuming that I am ....what was is? ..."mortgaged to the teeth to impress like minded fake individuals" does nothing but give people the impression that you can't possibly imaging someone making more than you and living in a nicer area. I gives people the impression that (in your mind), everyone is as poor as you are so if they're living in a nice neighborhood they must be in severe debt. Here's a hint - some people make more money than you. So what.
My comment was "sanctimonious and flat out RUDE"? Yes - it was meant to be. So you were offended? Get over it.
BlackHelix 3/13/2013 2:46:32 PM Report
and BTW, you being offended has nothing to do with me. Nothing, zero. One day you will realize that's completely your problem. People are offended everyday - all the time. nobody cares....
TFinn 3/13/2013 3:36:06 PM Report
BlackHelix 3/13/2013 2:46:32 PM
I wasn’t referring about myself, I was considering the feelings of the people in general, you rudely commented on, that do live in these areas that are more prone to such behaviour. For myself, I pay taxes on a number of properties throughout the city and in Havilland Bay as well. I am fortunately debt free ...so big deal, but unlike yourself, I’m considering the feelings of the people that do live in those neighbourhoods such as the downtown areas, they live there for a reason, whether it is because they like the area, or they developed friendships with others, or it’s what they are able to afford at this time in their life. When I first started out many years back, I did live in those areas, we had great neighbours and our street was a quaint, friendly, and nice locale for us. For you to say you live in a better area makes no sense …good for you, however you come off as an arrogant type of person, just because you feel you make more money then other people in those areas does not have anything to do with the fact that there are some areas in our city that need attention and help to rid the rift raft. Perhaps in the future you can consider other peoples feelings when passing off comments and judgements.
syndi 3/13/2013 3:40:30 PM Report
Actually it is more than a one block issue. It is from the West of the city to the East of the city....the main or central spot is the downtown core, so if you all must talk about how bad and disgusting it is to live on Albert near Gore why don't you all take a drive from say Carmens Way to Elgin Street and then tell me what you see? Don't forget to go up the Wellington one way or the Bay Street one way. What a bunch of imbeciles most of you are. You are afraid of the hookers? If any of you had half a heart you would take the time to talk to them and learn their stories. THEY ARE ALL SOMEONES DAUGHTERS, SISTERS, MOTHERS....AUNTIES! Sault Ste Marie and your "mobster mentality".....you ought to be ashamed of yourselves and the things that you continue to post to prove time and time again just how idiotic, crast and sad you really are. This is far more than just a one block problem. This is in epidemic proportion, but rather than try to find out why this is happening you all want to sweep it under the carpet or become super sleuths/detectives and stop the problem in our neighbourhood rather than stop the problem period. Disgusting and sad is all I can say about most of you. YES LETS GET TOGETHER TO PUSH THESE GIRLS OUT OF OUR NEIGHBOURHOODS...SHOULD WE DO THIS WITH FIRE ON STICKS AND PITCHFORKS AND BASEBALL BATS? Idiots....just plain idiots. How distubing it is to me that you would spend that much time and energy to do something so hideous to these poor lost souls yet you are probably the same ones that did not have the time to stand beside your fellow man to help protect our waters and our rights or spent hours complaining about how you had to go down a different street to get to work when IDLENOMORE were protesting. Once again....all I can say is WOW! Good job people!
laurie roach 3/13/2013 3:40:58 PM Report
Get out and get a real job....
Resident 3/13/2013 4:06:37 PM Report
There ARE people/families in the area who bought their houses BEFORE the prostitutes arrived (years ago NOT decades, at least from my understanding). Why should they hide in their (devalued) houses with the drapes drawn? Why can't they walk the streets without "hookers" accosting them (if they are men) or being accosted by johns (if they are women)? The hookers should be helped if POSSIBLE and the pimps and johns prosecuted. John school?
Paddlenut 3/13/2013 4:12:28 PM Report
I hear you Syndi, and all others who take a more reasoned and, indeed, a more compassionate point of view on the sad root causes of this activity and its reflection of society as a whole. Everyone has a right to their opinion, but you and I have perfect right to disagree and ignore them. I prefer to believe that the majority of the people in the Soo aren't as simplistic as to suggest moving to solve the problem, or that "those people" deserve what they get. I believe that the majority of people in the Sault have empathy for both the letter writer, and the streetwalkers and that ignorant "solutions" proposed here do not represent the public majority. But I will go out on a limb and believe the majority of people in the Soo have absolutely no empathy for the Johns, whom in my opinion, deserve none whatsoever.
syndi 3/13/2013 5:30:46 PM Report
I am writing this letter to you to let you know how glad we would all be to see your'e sorry pathetic asses hauled away to jail. But we sadly already know that it is the hooker that will sit in jail as you have a well paying job and can afford to have a lawyer represent you in a manner that would be befitting of such a gentleman.We see you out on our neighbourhood streets pulling up along side of our daughters and yes even our sons now asking them how much , when all they are trying to do is simply walk to school or catch the bus to their jobs. Be aware....be fully aware that the next time my daughter or son are asked these questions...they have been told to take licence plate numbers and pictures with their phones. We see you out at night and sometimes right after working a shift that ended at five in the afternoon trying to troll for the hookers to get your fix for your insatiable appetite because just simply servicing yourself is not enough any longer. Perhaps I shall sit and watch and then follow you home with the pictures of the girl you just picked up...then let back off but down the street from where you first found her so as to not bring attention to yourself and going back to the "scene of the crime". I have heard it said that if you try the other hand you may think it is a stranger ...perhaps this is what the thrill of exploiting these already down trodden girls does for you? Better yet why don't you fashion a glove made from the grittiest sandpaper and sand that darned thing right away? Because rest assured if you are picking up hookers from the street you certainly do not care for your own safety nor your families safety. So I guess that I should not care too much either when I follow you home and walk up to your door and give your wife the evidence of what a low life scum bag she is married to ? Would you mind if I did that ? Oh wait a moment....you don't mind asking my kids and my neighbours kids "How much?" So I really don't mind SHARING WITH YOUR FAMILY WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO MINE!
P.S Have a nice day!
mac2 3/13/2013 5:58:29 PM Report
sinikka never ceases to amaze me, unreal, lol
Norm 3/13/2013 6:01:35 PM Report
Talk about sex and the blggers show up in droves. Last huge one , outside of idle no more, was haters will hate. Someone mentioned cameras and the John's will stop coming. What next, casteration.
Resident 3/13/2013 7:13:08 PM Report
What is the matter John? Oh, I mean Norm. By the way, it's castration.
BlackHelix 3/13/2013 8:44:54 PM Report
What would you say to the John's that are single?
What would you say to the hookers that actually WANT to do what they do? Don't think that's true? You should ask them - you might be surprised.
And what are you doing to help? Are you offering them food or water? Are you offering them a ride to the detox center if they need it? How about making a phone call for them to get in touch with the women in crisis center? How about just being nice and saying hi for a change. Nope, here's syndi sitting at home, wondering "Hmmmm just WHAT can I do? - I know...I'll post a comment on an irrelevant local ad site. That'll make me feel better!"
Not everybody is a "helpless soul", and not everyone is a cheater.
You would know this if you've ever been outside of the Sault. Don't expect to get cheers on here just because you've kicked around the same 3 blocks your whole life....
Resident 3/13/2013 11:57:00 PM Report
Black Helix: I'm sure the streetwalkers who need a fix are going to tell you that. They'll likely tell you that they need the money for food or that they just like sex. Help is available but you can't force someone to take the help.
Voiceofreason 3/13/2013 11:59:33 PM Report
Stop looking outside your window so much Gladys Kravitz!
When you live in an area where poverty is prevalent, expect crime to be more prevalent. I'd hate to say that it's not because of the area you live in, but it is.
Resident 3/14/2013 12:08:08 AM Report
I guess your idea of "reasonable" is for "Gladys" to hide? That it should be expected that in a low income area crime and streetwalkers are allowed?
Voiceofreason 3/14/2013 12:16:30 AM Report
I never said hide, I was saying don't make it more of a problem than it really is. And that's precisely what I'm saying, you live in areas of low income housing and you get exactly what you pay for. Remember, the prostitutes have to go somewhere. You can thank the SSM city council for this whole ordeal. Had they not made a bylaw against bawdy houses, the hookers wouldn't be on the street.
Resident 3/14/2013 8:15:09 AM Report
So, ignore the problem (hide) because streetwalkers should be expected in an area of "low income housing"! After all anyone with "low income housing" doesn't deserve anything better!
Anyway, it's SSM city councils fault!
That is "reasonable"!!!!
syndi 3/14/2013 3:23:56 PM Report
Lets see....short of not having to explain my life or where I live or where I have lived , and what I have done or will continue to do with my life I will choose to keep this comment to you in a very refined manner. You claim that I am sitting at home just wondering what to do to help these girls. You obviously have no idea who I am or what I am about and I will just leave it at that. All the while laughing at you in regards to your comment about the irrelevance of my post. Correct me if I am wrong, but was it not a post about hookers and johns? I am pretty sure that my posts were quite relevant. It is too bad that your main concern in regards to everyone elses posts was to be a nasty, rude individual.Those girls know who I am...and for reasons that I am quite proud of myself. So as it stands I know me...I like me and I am proud of me BLACK HELIX. I know I am making a change in the world...although it may be small...a change is still a change and it is far better than the nothingness of some peoples lives.
Well look at that....not as refined as I had hoped for but then again I suppose that we can not all be literary scholars with the breadth of your knowledge. Some of us do have to be low lifes that live in poor areas of town where we probably deserve what we get for living here in the first place.
BlackHelix 3/14/2013 9:50:27 PM Report
1. I never called your post irrelevant. I called this site irrelevant - which it is.
2. I never called you or anyone else a low-life, and I never said you're getting what you deserve. I you're going to quote someone it's usually a good idea to actually read what they wrote. I mean - you don't even have to search for it. All you have to do is scroll up. *mind blown*
3. You don't need to be a literary scholar to comprehend anything I said. Next time I comment, I'll keep in mind that my words are too complex for syndi to understand.
4. Congratulations on liking yourself.
libster 3/18/2013 4:24:09 PM Report
Blackhelix....your an "angry elf" aren't you?...lol
Tom_Bom 4/2/2013 10:00:07 AM Report
I'll just speak on prostitution itself. Where is the victim in that crime? Oh right, its a victimless crime. In that it's not harming anyone.
We should legalize prostitution and regulate it and have a red light district sort of thing like in Amsterdam. They actually have the lowest HIV infection rate in the world. now THEY'RE doing it right.