$4 treaty payments haven't increased since 1874, Chiefs say Monday, September 10, 2012 by: SooToday.com Staff
BATCHEWANA FIRST NATION
Robinson Huron Treaty Chiefs serve Notice of Annuities Claim on Ontario and Canada asserting entitlement to resource revenues from the treaty territory
Toronto, ON (QUEEN'S PARK) – Chiefs from the Robinson-Huron Treaty territory served Notice of Claim today on the Crown in right of Canada and the Crown in right of Ontario regarding the longstanding failure of the Crown to raise annuities under the Robinson Huron Treaty of 1850.
Under the Robinson Huron Treaty, signed on September 9, 1850, the Anishinabek (“Ojibewa Indians”) agreed to share their lands and resources with the newcomers - approximately 35,700 square miles of territory.
In return, the Crown, among other things, was supposed to pay annuities that were to be augmented from time to time.
Treaty beneficiaries currently get $4 per year and there has been no increase since 1874.
This despite the fact that the treaty is explicit in stating that the annuities would increase if the resource revenue generated from the territory produced such an amount as to enable the increase without incurring a loss.
The Robinson Huron Treaty territory has undoubtedly yielded vast amounts of revenues from forestry, mining and other resource development activities over the years, yet the annuities have remained at a mere $4 per year.
The Chiefs are seeking an accounting; they want the level of annuities increased; and they claim compensation for losses suffered as a result of the Crown’s failure to increase the annuities under the Robinson Huron Treaty, as promised.
The notice asks that the Crown deal “liberally and justly” with their claim, in accordance with the honour of the Crown, and engage in negotiations to settle the claim.
Also, notice was given that the Chiefs intend to commence a court action against the Crown should it refuse to engage in negotiations, or in the event negotiations fail.
“We have chosen today – the 162nd Anniversary of the signing of the Robinson Huron Treaty – to declare that our people are tired of living in poverty, we want our fair share,” said Angus Toulouse, spokesman for the Chiefs. "
Today’s Robinson Huron Treaty Chiefs and Councils intend to ensure that the Crown lives up to its obligations under the Treaty,” said Toulouse. “The Robinson-Huron Treaty anticipates and provides economic benefits for us in perpetuity. The annuity was intended to be our revenue stream, our share of the wealth generated by revenues from our territory, yet many of the beneficiaries live in poverty. This is not what our ancestors bargained for.”
Spokesman Chief Dean Sayers [shown] of Batchewana First Nation of Ojibways added: “This is a serious, long-standing breach of our treaty and a breach of fiduciary obligation on the part of the Crown. Canada’s largest export to the world is our resources and both the Ontario and national economies benefit, but we see nothing from this except for the annual $4 dollar payment. That’s grossly inadequate; we want the Crown to negotiate a fairer share with us.”
The Robinson Huron Treaty was entered into on September 9, 1850, 162 years ago.
The Notice of Claim will be served on the Lieutenant Governor of Ontario, The Honourable David Onley, and on the Governor General of Canada, The Right Honourable David Johnson.
milldog 9/10/2012 12:26:42 PM Report
I have a better idea...here is my bank account #...67339298...and my master card #8632 2761 2939 2883...just take what you need....you deserve it.
scott240 9/10/2012 12:28:16 PM Report
@Milldog - LOL! Was thinking the samething.
Grace 9/10/2012 12:37:37 PM Report
@RLE..Maybe Obahma can save the day!
happyhomer 9/10/2012 12:49:00 PM Report
Some people can be SO rude!!!!...I was born and raised in Sault Ste. Marie, a town i was so proud to call home. I married my husband (who is a first nation band member) 21 years ago and have moved to his community where i have been treated very well. I am SO EMBARASSED of these comments that are being made on here...my children, my grandchildren are going to have to live with the racism i guess to for many years to come because of immature people like you!! grow up and learn some history before you make STUPID comments.....
B Boy 9/10/2012 12:55:36 PM Report
I think you're playing the racism card inaccurately.
My undergraduate degree was in law, focus was public law. Having grown up in Mohawk territory my bias was toward First Nations.
After having learned the ins & outs of the treaty agreements and the First Nations who agreed to them my bias has changed.
Many of the key players in the treaties were very well educated First Nations - they were actually educated in British universities. It was a classic case of a decision being made for many by the few.
Actually reading the treaties was an eye opener - in many cases they are getting a whole lot more than was agreed on.
kodak11 9/10/2012 12:56:58 PM Report
We will give you more but, pay your own taxes,education,hunting/fishing license.
steelworker 9/10/2012 12:58:39 PM Report
Looks like Sayers needs a new Escalade.
TUGBOATANNIE 9/10/2012 1:02:29 PM Report
Why should a 162 year old treaty be relevant today. It's 2012. If any group needs an income they should go out and earn it themselves rather than depend on others!
haywirej 9/10/2012 1:23:52 PM Report
So if I lose a war can I get free money 2. Wait no usually what happens is I lose everything. Stop whining and start working.
cemeterygates 9/10/2012 1:46:40 PM Report
Treaties havn't been renegotiated or revisited since 1874!!! How about before giving you more free money, we adjust the "treaties" to today's day and age, where people have to work for things!! Quit living in the past and get with the times! Its really funny how they don't even consider themselves citizens of Canada and want nothing to do with us, except when it comes to our money. Time for the government to grow a set of balls and stand up to this garbage. Enough is enough.
Dreamer 9/10/2012 1:48:45 PM Report
haha suck it up buttercups...we'll get more $ jus wait n see.
They had treaty workshops over the weekend, why didn't you ignorant people go and learn sumtin?
LAD 9/10/2012 1:50:46 PM Report
Haywirej, what war are you talking about? I don't believe Canada's First Nations ever lost a war. Please enlighten me about your comment?
Christina216 9/10/2012 1:54:59 PM Report
can always expect a laugh when it comes to news related to the natives. Some people dont even read the article before posting their
silly uneducated comments.
Christina216 9/10/2012 1:57:27 PM Report
LAD thats what i ment by uneducated. Lost a war....free money....teehee
fishing maniac 101 9/10/2012 2:16:46 PM Report
“We have chosen today – the 162nd Anniversary of the signing of the Robinson Huron Treaty – to declare that our people are tired of living in poverty, we want our fair share,”
you dont have to live on poverty, its called getting a job. Blow the dust off your work boots and start working.
eclectic 9/10/2012 2:23:46 PM Report
I'm with B Boy. First, maybe everyone posting should read the Robinson Huron Treaty and see exactly what it says. It is available on-line. Next, decide if the signers actually intended for it to be used in this day and age, and for the purpose of enriching the Anishinabek at the expense of all other Canadians. Do you really think the intent was to give them control over all of Canada (their 'traditional' lands) and to financially support them for eternity?
zardoz 9/10/2012 2:28:57 PM Report
Slim Shady 9/10/2012 2:48:35 PM Report
"...I don't want to work I want to bang on the drum all day..." (song by Todd Rundgren... LOL)
Treaties that were written 162 years by the King of England who never even saw Canada are irrelavent today! Things have changed, no one could have ever envisioned the services and standard of living today.
This is a country not Casino Rama. Canadian tax payers don't do endless payouts like Casino Rama. Get with the times and pay into the system like the rest of us!
I want my 40 acres and a mule too. Ain't gonna happen, neither is Freedom 55.
milldog 9/10/2012 2:49:34 PM Report
@happyhomer....of course your're treated well...you live in a first nation community???...as far as you're embarassed about these comments, you should be...I'm glad you are humble enough to accept that....we shouldn't have to "learn" the history, because this should all be history...wake the @$#% up and start contributing....
TankGirl 9/10/2012 2:56:20 PM Report
The said William Benjamin Robinson, on behalf of Her Majesty, who desires to deal liberally and justly with all her subjects, further promises and agrees, that should the Territory hereby ceded by the parties of the second part at any future period produce such an amount as will enable the Government of this Province, without incurring loss, to increase the annuity hereby secured to them, then and in that case the same shall be augmented from time to time, provided that the amount paid to each individual shall not exceed the sum of one pound Provincial Currency in any one year, or such further sum as Her Majesty may be graciously pleased to order; and provided further that the number of Indians entitled to the benefit of this treaty shall amount to two-thirds of their present number, which is fourteen hundred and twenty-two, to entitle them to claim the full benefit thereof. And should they not at any future period amount to two-thirds of fourteen hundred and twenty-two, then the said annuity shall be diminished in proportion to their actual numbers.
Dictionary 9/10/2012 2:59:15 PM Report
Sayers, not doers.
sexykwe 9/10/2012 2:59:36 PM Report
Excellent Work Chief Sayers!
It's about time our first nation people are recognized and being held in such regard from the political arena.
As for larger payments for the stolen land and natural resources, great bring it on!
Canada should be ashamed for making promises & treaties with people who were and still are so giving.
First Nation People across North & South America should be the richest people.
Bring on the money!
Finally our share of the wealth!
PipeBomb 9/10/2012 3:00:09 PM Report
LOL...pure entertainment on here. Where is that jackpot right wing when you need him!!??
TankGirl 9/10/2012 3:02:09 PM Report
TankGirl 9/10/2012 3:09:31 PM Report
IMO - the chiefs publicly saying they are owed money because the amounts in the treaty are outdated is not a smart move. The $4 being referred to is a small portion of much larger monies paid to them each year.
eclectic 9/10/2012 3:14:55 PM Report
Yay, Tank Girl!
Hatch 9/10/2012 3:16:30 PM Report
First Nation people use to believe that no one owned the land. It was owned by God/a higher power.
superstar75 9/10/2012 3:39:29 PM Report
disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourselves!!!
what i see in so many comments of all sootoday "news" articles is nothing but ignorance (both meanings of the word) hidden behind anonymous usernames... you are so pathetic!! i am FN, i work and i contribute and so do my sisters and brothers (other FN's)
and btw, do you really think it is about $4 a yr??? use the brain the good lord gave you!!
i see this crap all over the place and its the same people saying the same B.S.... I know more unemployed, cracked out, non-native lifers than i do FN... sheesh
sea shell 9/10/2012 3:43:26 PM Report
I'm all for "forget the treaties" YOU IGNORANT SMART MOUTH! WHATS OURS IS OURS AND WHATS YOURS IS YOURS!!! SOUNDS PRETTY GOOD TOO ME! I know, not all non-natives are as rude and uneducated in the facts as those making the comments on here but it certainly doesn't paint a very good picture! DISGUSTING!!!
superstar75 9/10/2012 3:48:40 PM Report
get off our asses and work??
ur racist P.O.S.'s
i have worked fulltime since im 13 years old... raised 3 kids, put myself through school... half using OSAP and the other half funded by my FN.... i am a professional that gets up at 6:30am and WORKS until i lay my head at 11pm... i get home at 5pm and work in my home... a 2nd job in the form of my home business, and taking care of my home ensuring it is clean and healthy for my kids...i dont point this out in defense, as i know there is no need to defend myself or my people from these lies... i say it to educate the ignorant non-native people....
get off my ass and work eh???? i guarantee i work harder than most of the ignorant a-holes that have made their racial comments.... pffft... you look stupid
geterdun 9/10/2012 4:13:39 PM Report
you better be careful what you demand........ Sayers not doers thats a good one.LMAO
Slick73 9/10/2012 4:27:31 PM Report
"tired of living in poverty"
Well explain to me why and how you are "tired of living in poverty"? I would think in most cases this is a choice, considering the opportunities.
cityhallguy 9/10/2012 4:48:31 PM Report
WOW!!! I can't believe the talk going on in here! There certainly is a lot of racism in the Sault, and sadly, I doubt it'll stop any time soon!
All the comments about poverty, cleanliness, etc... mentioned on here could apply to anyone!!! I know tons of people milking the system at OW, getting free cash from the government!! All races!!! Stones and glass houses everyone!!!
My only question is why did it take 140 years to bring this up, or has it been brought up in years past?
And let's keep the stupid comments to ourselves ok!!!
TankGirl 9/10/2012 5:05:53 PM Report
I need some education here becuae i must not be reading this right. Why does it state that only 2/3rd of the total number of existing natives on each reserve at the time of the signing of this treaty will always be the maximum number of people eligible and yet, the monies are paid out to more than that today? Am I reading it wrong? It was very specific that only the natives alive in 1850 qualify for these rights. (as per one section I posted above)
Then when I read the Indian Act, there are clauses in there that negate portions of the treaty with regards to money's collected and distributed by her Majesty. In fact, additional monies were agreed upon in multiple additions to the act and the territories it covers up until 1985. (that's as far as I have read so far). Portions of land sale proceeds, portions of sale of natural resources,etc have all been agreed to be and are being paid out.
This whole issue makes my head spin and the nasty comments back and forth from both sides are lame. Let's talk facts people. Does anybody know the treaty and the act well enough to help me with my confusion?
TankGirl 9/10/2012 5:07:43 PM Report
I've read these both many times but, it's a lot written in legal speak that isn't always easy to follow. That and, you have to search to put pieces of history of the treaties and acts together to really see the whole picture. And good luck finding unbiased sources.
ryeandcoke 9/10/2012 5:11:56 PM Report
Mr. Sayers is a joke
TankGirl 9/10/2012 5:15:33 PM Report
". And should they not at any future period amount to two-thirds of fourteen hundred and twenty-two, then the said annuity shall be diminished in proportion to their actual numbers."
(1422 was the number eligible in 1850).
That last part states the amount will always remain the same regardless of the growing numbers on the reserves. It would take the same amount of monies and diminish it amongst the growing numbers. So, it didn't used to be $4, the number was much larger but the reserves grew in numbers dropping equal payment to $4.
Kind of paints a different picture than Sayers statements in this article.,
SooTodayer 9/10/2012 5:18:11 PM Report
The racism is sad. I am not native, therefore I don't comment on the issues before them as others here seem to love to blather on about.
It is such a backwater thing to think that no natives work. Just silly. Hopefully u don't pass on that racist thinking to any young ones.
I hope SooToday doesn't pull the comments like they usually HAVE TO when anything native is posted. Others need to see the racism around them, still in this day and age it has not changed for some.
I think people should also open their minds and NOT just think of what you see around us, meaning Garden River, or Rankin Reserves, there are places like Attawapiskat. Ring a bell anyone??
Some places are so remote there is no place to work, and the teens find suicide a better option than living. They deserve better! Nobody in Canada of any race should want out that young.
Just google 'native reservations crisis' and see what comes up...
"Shacks and slop pails: infrastructure crisis on native reserves"
"Clean running water still a luxury on many native reserves"
bluesslinger 9/10/2012 5:20:33 PM Report
"Actually reading the treaties was an eye opener - in many cases they are getting a whole lot more than was agreed on."
"We will give you more but, pay your own taxes,education,hunting/fishing license."
No. We have a treaty.
"So if I lose a war can I get free money 2. Wait no usually what happens is I lose everything. Stop whining and start working."
There was no war. There was an agreement called a treaty.
"Treaties havn't been renegotiated or revisited since 1874!!!"
How about Canada just honor the
"Do you really think the intent was to give them control over all of Canada (their 'traditional' lands) and to financially support them for eternity?"
Of course. The negotiators weren't stupid. Canada is enjoying the RESOURCES THAT WERE NEGOTIATED FOR ETERNITY.
It's a treaty.
"I want my 40 acres and a mule too. Ain't gonna happen, neither is Freedom 55."
That's because you don't have an agreement, or a treaty.
"wake the @$#% up and start contributing...."
The natural resources you enjoy is the contribution.
"The property ties are ancient. Maybe first nations people 100 years ago deserved some compensation, NOT TODAY! This is the 21st cen"
We signed a treaty.
"I'm all for "forget the treaties""
We are not.
"I would think in most cases this is a choice, considering the opportunities."
That is too ignorant a comment to begin to address.
TankGirl 9/10/2012 5:26:51 PM Report
blues - You are clearly up on the treaties. Can you answer my questions above?
Although, you keep standing behind the answer "we signed a treaty" and if you read what I posted above, it basically confirms the first quote in your response as true. Natives DO get more than the original treaties covered which would make what Sayers is claiming as a half truth or even a lie.
Can you explain?
true canadian 9/10/2012 5:28:23 PM Report
native indians were not the first ones here in canada,, I thought it was the hmong or some other eastern culture that was here first,,,hmmmmm,, how did the natives get the land from them?,,,I could be wrong though,,,just wondering,,
LAWL 9/10/2012 5:35:13 PM Report
There is a lot of racism here. I do not think you folks should go so far with the nasty comments. Now in these troubled economic times I see first nations complaining about cuts to this cuts to that. What all folks need to realize is that EVERYONE is getting cuts. I really think all people white, black, red, purple green whatever colour you are, need to start banding together. Natives need to leave stuff hundreds of years old in the past. I dated a native girl in high school. I always envied the fact that she had so much knowledge of her history. The fact that natives think their land wass stolen is kind of sad. I am white and my lands of origin are gone. I have no idea and nor do I care who has the lands now. I care now about Canada. Really I think first nation peoples are paid enough. They have a better cahnce of getting jobs. Try being white and getting a job in these troubled times. I really wish we could leave the past in the past. Celebrate how our peoples came together in the past and try to move forward to a bright future. It is so easy for people of minorities to pull the "race" card. If folks try to speak up about being unhappy about paying money to certain groups, they are a racist. Lets all band together as human beings and protect OUR land and resources for our future generations. We are in debt, badly. We are in debt to bankers that charge us interest on money that we as the people of Canada have the right to print. No one seems to care about that. Interest paid on money that should be interest free. When we "give" money to groups of any race, we have to borrow it. Putting future generations in trouble. This is a battle that will never end. We will never pay enough. As long as we keep giving, we continue to dig a deep hole. So please think of us people that are not being racist when we say enough is enough. It is not your land. It is our land, as human beings. No one has a right or should be paid for land that we all are responsible to protect. Guess i will shut up now. Sorry for the crappy writing. Not a professional just a little p!ssed about all the whining going on!
bluesslinger 9/10/2012 5:35:39 PM Report
Explaining goes nowhere. I've tried. Believe me, it's a lesson in futility.
Keep researching your doing fine.
If someone else was here before us, we probably took it from them. But if they had a treaty I'm sure we would have honored it.
bluesslinger 9/10/2012 5:37:57 PM Report
"It is not your land."
Tank, this is what I mean.
Finished with the explaining.
LAWL 9/10/2012 5:44:59 PM Report
Just a couple more questions. When do the payouts end? Is there ever going to be an end? When do we come together as one group. In the year 2200, will we still be arguing over money?
geterdun 9/10/2012 6:18:05 PM Report
what about Caledonia??????????????
TankGirl 9/10/2012 6:18:51 PM Report
Blues- When you have at least one person wanting to learn, why dismiss it because of others? Isn't that the same as what those you dislike on here are doing by blanketing all natives as lazy and uneducated?
Ignore it. Otherwise you are giving up and that will not help what you support.
ti-guy 9/10/2012 6:43:14 PM Report
I honestly feel for the ordinary aboriginal in the same manner as the ordinary Joe white. People should try to see the video of 'the first Nation's millionaires club put out by sunnewsnetwork.ca/video 1741805410001 and see that the chiefs are the culprits imo.
mitch797 9/10/2012 6:50:32 PM Report
Don't even get started on Attawapiskat, the government has poured money into it like a bottomless pit (over $90 000 000). How can you say they need more, they have had enough money handed to them to have a completely self sufficient community including jobs for everyone. Everyone could have no debt, and a decent house. It's racist to give them that kind of money. Where's our $90 000 000 to make the Sault better. There are tons of races in the Sault, Italians, East Indians, African American etc. and I welcome them. It has nothing to do with being racist, it is a well known fact that a high percentage of (not all though) First Nations milk the government for money. Good job to the people who are First Nations and have careers, with all the opportunities out there I'm glad someone was atleast smart enough to work hard and be well off. There should definitely not be any complaining about money for First Nations though, they have had a million times what they should have in the first place. Quit complaining, when a smart right wing politician (not harper) gets elected, say goodbye to your free money. Then you'll be grateful for what the government has already given you.
rockfeather 9/10/2012 7:59:26 PM Report
How can sayers say he's tired of living in poverty? he owns a new house on the reserve, one in batchewana bay, one in bay mills. he makes over 100,000 tax free each year. he owns a fishing business, chip stand, motor home, new truck, new jeep - his entire family works for the band. as for treaty benefits, his parents sold their rights and got paid well for it - now they're back at the trough while real anishinabek with real problems from years of oppression and tragic loss go without
TankGirl 9/10/2012 8:04:45 PM Report
mitch - You can't cast one example across the entire FN community that signed these treaties. Attwapiskat is one community of many. Or, one example that doesn't speak for all nations. You can't simplify this subject by saying one community got a bunch of money so that should be enough.
Do I question the spending at Attawapiskat? Absolutely. I dug into that debacle in the winter and found a lot of holes and loose ends. There are a lot of questions unanswed by that band and the handling of their funds. I understand their want/need to handle their own affairs however, in the case of Attawapiskat, I truly believe the chiefs mishandled and pocketed funds for their own gain. I believe the people of Attawapiskat are being ripped off by their own leaders. But, that is a different conversation outside of the treaty funding discussed by this article. Don't cloud the issue. Read the treaties. That's all I can suggest. There are a lot of answers in them and, they leave a lot of questions to be answered.
TankGirl 9/10/2012 9:00:27 PM Report
He is a question to all FN community members.
According to the Indian Act all payments from the issue Sayers is mad about in this article owed to you are (as requested and agreed by your band chiefs) paid in cash to the bands and then distributed to you. Are you really ok with cash passing through that many hands and do you really trust you are getting what is due to you? As a non native, I know I would never trust any government to handle cash fairly. Below is an exert from the Indian Act which handles the payments from Crown to Band.
Treaty Annuity Payments
A First Nation member's right to treaty payments depends on the precise terms and conditions of your First Nation's treaty. You are entitled to annual treaty payments if you are registered as an Indian and a member of a First Nation that signed a treaty providing for annual treaty payments. You may also be eligible if you have an affiliation with a Treaty First Nation. Treaty annuities are normally paid in cash at Treaty Day events held annually on or off reserve.
Cash? Really? I am baffled.
Christina216 9/10/2012 9:17:11 PM Report
they do hand you 2 twoonies, you sign that you received the $4.00 and they have a few R.C.M.P officers as well as native police standing guard.
speed7 9/10/2012 11:37:08 PM Report
What ever happened to that 4.7 million waiting in trust for you since 1997? You know the one that the government has set up for you and you cannot simply gather 400 band memebers to come out and vote so you can use it? How can you not get band members to come out and vote??? I think your leaders are too busy trying to look up historical documents and looks for snags. glitches and lame excuses to take more money from a government who is near bankrupt. Your people need to question your leaders and why do they not want involvement with the governement when it omes to treaty funding. Just take the money and thank you , were done now, go on your merry way. I think these types of actions are what is still having you live in poverty. You the people need to take control of your leaders. I remember this sayers man attempted to stop a train in the form of a protest awhile ago. Who else has that kind of power and can get away with it. Not many. Your leader is a power junkie and he is keeping your people oppressed poor and uneducated so you cannot defend yourselves. How is that for food for thought. Come out of your shells and speak up!
Bluewolf 9/11/2012 12:01:23 AM Report
There is a real lot of racisum here in Sault Ste Marie. For those who are racists please read carefully. Have a look where your parents,grand parents,or great grand parents came from. I thought so. Go home racist! PS. and take the neighbors on both side of you also.
G. Ross aka Bluewolf
Sudsy 9/11/2012 12:28:40 AM Report
you know something I`ve lived in dozens of cites and towns in ontario as well as other provinces and although I have only lived in this little city for a few years, I have never seen a more ignorant miserable town. Is there something in the water or is it the soot coming from the plant that fuels this anger?? The ignorant comments made towards all first nation people makes me sick to my stomach. I come from a french native background so I`m far from being treaty but I never question anything that FN people stand up for. I don`t know enough about the treaties and I bet the one`s getting their panties in a naught over this don`t either. If the FN people working on reserves started paying taxes do you think our taxes will go down???? not a chance. If you individuals making some of these comments are so hung up about having to pay taxes and gettting your panties all twisted over FN people getting two toonies a year more then you, then why don`t you move your ass up north to an isolated community where there is no tim horton`s, Burger Kings, hockey rinks, state of the art schools ect ect... then you can complain about paying taxes.
speed7 9/11/2012 12:34:01 AM Report
Blue is that all you have to say? Racist? Seems that is your only defense? Weve all faced some form of racIsm . My parents have when they came to Canada. But never did they call others racist or use crude words. I always thought your people were spiritual. Most of the comments in here aren't really racist. They are trying to prove a point. But you refuse to see it by throwing up that darn defense shield. I think people have good points To state. I don't think you have tried to hear what is being said. A closed mind won't help you when you've closed your eyes too.
BlackHelix 9/11/2012 1:23:28 AM Report
Blue - You can't publicly complain that your race is not being treated as "unequal" as the rest of Canada, and then call the people who oppose that idea racists. It's the EXACT opposite thing lol. I mean, I really don't know another way to put it.
Thoughts about this issue aside, when you tell people that you deserve MORE than the rest, or you set up a certain population to have an unfair advantage based on race - That's racism! I'm not saying that the treaties are unimportant. I'm not saying that we should forget the struggle of First Nations peoples. I'm not even saying that First Nation's people's shouldn't have certain benefits. But you have to call it what it is.....
Racism = Treating people different based on race.
Non Racism = Treating everyone as equals.
I'm willing right now to sign a petition that states EVERY Canadian will receive the exact same treatment as it relates to health care, taxation, job opportunity, education, etc. Every child born in Canada will have the same chance for success regardless of race, creed, sex or culture. Would you do the same? After all - what could be more of an "Anti-racist" thing than that....
LeeC 9/11/2012 7:40:24 AM Report
Ya these comments are extreamly un called for, not to mention unintelligent. our governments raise prices on everything for all of us because of the federal reserve bank but they dont raise the prices of they're expences? Another low blow from the fat cats up top and your fighting with each other. give yourself a pat on the back all of you who posted rudely towards this post and congratulate yourselves for bending over and taking up the tail pipe from the government, cause that basically what you just did. And to bring to your attention that yes this treaty is legit and the natives are just actually getting what was promised to them. When the treaty's were proposed and signed, they did not expect the natives to act and stand up, but just sit back and let our ancestors take control. Let me give you TV watching, brainwashed, negative posters an example. You buy a house, you get home insurance on your house, your house burns to the ground by causes that fall under your insurance policy and your insurance company says "nope, go F*** yourselves, we are not paying ya". Does that help you understand whats going on with natives and the governments? try and soak that in. By the way I am not native nor do I have and native blood in my blood line, but I can see when we are getting bullied and pushed around by our governments and I can see through our differences as the bullied so we can maybe one day unite and get for once what our grandmothers and grandfathers died for in war, our FREEDOM.
LeeC 9/11/2012 7:43:29 AM Report
What I mean is, if we have to suffer from inflation because our country is too stupid to print our own currency and decided to borrow from the federal reserve banks. Then they should suffer too, heck it was they're stupidity and we are paying for it, not to mention also that the natives deserve it cause its pretty much a signed contract (the treaty).
THE Warrior 9/11/2012 9:50:48 AM Report
Unfortunately we are plagued with the racism of a few unintellegent people.. I have grown to learn how we are disliked by a race that in the past has chosen to have worse ethics than hitler.. Have gone to multiple cultures and societies and tried to wipe them out.. who believe they are the only society that is warranted love and grace.. but in actuality are a ignorant, self loathing society.. The crimes of the past from your european ancestors cannot be erased.. It is shame you feel when you write these comments, shame for your race for all the wrong doings that have been done to multiple societies.. One day i hope you can accept what your race has done and not be ashamed.. For to lose the shame, we can all move forward. Better your mind with love and forget the hate..
browneyedbeauty22 9/11/2012 11:01:48 AM Report
First off, I find it absolutely revolting that everyone has the nerve to speak so ignorantly about an issue that you hold no apparent knowledge on.
We do realize that you have personally not oppressed our people, but since
it took so long for our Canadian government to act on the ruthlessness your people have unleashed on us in the past, our rights under the Aboriginal
Rights Provision are entrenched in Canada's Constitution, finally, in 1982. This means you can write all the nasty comments you want, and we're still getting what’s rightfully owed. I know not all of our people personally deserve these benefits, but our people care for everyone in it as ONE, we are not a selfish culture as you so seem to be. Our people that HAVE been oppressed
believe strongly that for what has been done, there was a strong need for your people to give back to us. The benefits? The money? That was just the LEAST the government could do to BEGIN the healing process.
The fact is, there is no monetary amount or right we can have that would make us forget the brutality that our people were faced, by your race alone.
But hey, I'm not here to judge, you've clearly claimed that role. I just did my homework before I spoke; I suggest you do the same next time.
P.S. I'm neither drunk, nor homeless ... just nauseous from the
inaccurate, racist comments you spread.
angens 9/11/2012 11:36:56 AM Report
I agree with Soo Todayer! Keep these comments on the board! Let the world know exactly what SSM City people think of First Nation People.
Looks good on you Sault Ste. Marie.
tonka 9/11/2012 12:27:19 PM Report
This article has stirred up a lot of feelings apparently! I thought that we are a Nation an this is how we treat each other, terrible! I have two kids and I teach them to treat everyone equal because that is how I want to be treated. I have mixed feeling about this whole topic becasue right now we are in a crisis financially in this country and that mean everything is getting cut right now; and it it fair as a nation for only some of us have to suffer the cuts or everyone! I think everyone because WE are a NATION and we all share this beautiful land!
Hatch 9/11/2012 2:38:31 PM Report
As much as I agree with you, I think you're missing the point. You would think equality for all those living in this country would be an admirable idea. Unfortunatley this will only occur when all the citizens come to believe that more than the other is earned and not given.
Neon_Angel 9/11/2012 4:37:15 PM Report
There have been many stories lately regarding government funding being cut to First Nations, and how it's targeted and unfair.
However, what they are failing to realize is that the cuts to funding aren't limited to First Nations, the cuts are happening to everyone.
People who have worked their whole life are receiving reduced pensions. Salaries are frozen but the cost of living is greatly increasing. Not to mention how many jobs are being cut, the list goes on.
At what point will it cease to be First Nations are being taken advantage of, and instead be Canadians as a whole are being taken advantage of.
It's the First Nations that are separating themselves from the rest of Canadians, not the other way around.