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Highway 17 to close south of Wawa

Tuesday, May 27, 2014   by: SooToday.com Staff

NEWS RELEASE

MINISTRY OF TRANSPORTATION

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WAWA - The Ministry of Transportation wishes to advise that Highway 17 will be closed to traffic approximately 18 kilometres south of Wawa starting at noon today.

The road closure is necessary to carry out an emergency culvert replacement. 

Work is expected to take up to two days to complete.

A detour is in place for Highway 17 traffic via Highway 101 from Wawa to Chapleau and Highway 129 to Thessalon. 

Long distance truck traffic may wish to take Highway 11 from North Bay to Nipigon.

We apologize for the inconvenience and are working to reopen the highway as soon as possible.

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T-rat 5/27/2014 1:03:29 PM Report

The TRANS CANADA HIGHWAY!! Sounds impressive eh. Replace a culvert, divert all traffic flow: intense commercial traffic, emergency vehicles, local and regional. Drive hundreds of km out of your way at over-inflated gas prices. You might expect such a thing on a backroad, secondary route but on a national highway -- only in Ontario!! How embarrassing.

Too bad when the premier left T-Bay to come to the Soo that it wasn't during this mess, instead of yesterday and that she had planned to drive over. Not blaming MTO but successive governments in this province who can't see past Barrie.

Oops, my bad. They've pumped lots into 4-laning Hwy. 11, Toronto to North Bay and Hwy. 69, Toronto to Sudbury, a parallel route. After that you're on your own. But then.....maybe the 4-laning was actually meant to take people TO Toronto, not away from it.

superior87 5/27/2014 1:46:43 PM Report

Regret reading that entire comment, the internet version of a crazy person outside of the Eaton Centre.
Sam C 5/27/2014 4:22:58 PM Report

superior... I was going to respond to that first post until I read yours. Youve said it all.
T-rat 5/27/2014 4:24:03 PM Report

superior? (what a misnomer) Did you have anything to say relevant to the article......or to anything else for that matter?
S.M.A.R.T. 5/27/2014 6:24:06 PM Report

Unbelievable! Simply unbelievable! A major transnational route closed for TWO DAYS over a culvert? Again. Unbelievable! We're being treated like s_ _ t up here and we just go along with it. Those detour suggestions are the epitome of insulting. I thought the headline was a teaser and the story could not be what it suggested. Well I was wrong.
summer95 5/27/2014 6:53:06 PM Report

oh Sootoday comments always make my day. People complain non-stop about how bad the highways and roads are.......but yet as soon as they try to fix them, people complain about that too! The road has to be fixed, or would you guys rather the crew wait until it's worse, and make it so it will take them longer to fix it? Stop complaining and deal with it people!
Timbob 5/27/2014 9:00:01 PM Report

@superior, sam, and summer:

Do you have any idea how embarrassing, incompetent, and utterly ridiculous it is to close our one and only national highway for 2 days? For a culvert?

If not, then I suggest you emigrate to some backward, 2 bit loser country - you'll get along just fine there.

Even if it's a major culvert, you do it at night. If it's well planned (heaven forbid), with the right machinery, and PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING don't need the highway shut down.

I've forgotten more about planning and executing these kinds of projects than anyone working today in the construction industry north of the 49th parallel it seems.
tbone029 5/27/2014 9:35:32 PM Report

@summer, imagine you're a soo resident whose mother just passed away this morning in thunder bay and cudn't make the noon highway shutdown? no reason what so ever for this stupidity, at least one lane shud be open,as for the detour thru chapleau? no thanks, that highway is a disgrace, driving my family the long way around Lake superior, the obscene amount they collect in fuel tax from us, the trans-Canada shud have been 4-laned from one end of the province to the other, deal with that!
tannner 5/27/2014 9:47:01 PM Report

I think people should understand that the highway is closed because of an "EMERGENCY" Culvert replacement. i.e. the highway has washed out again.

This is also not surprising if you look at the highway near Wawa, it's built way up above the ground on boulders.

And yes this is very embarrassing, Canada is supposed to be one of the best/wealthiest countries in the world, yet our trans Canada highway washes out seasonally.

Honestly we should be lucky this happened where it did, West of Nipigon and Canada is cut in half! hmmm don't tell Russia that maybe!
Frio 5/27/2014 9:53:51 PM Report

Imagine if you had a functioning brain and wanted to go to Thunder Bay that bad while the highway is closed for repairs you could drive thru Michigan and buy cheaper gas and food along the way!
tbone029 5/27/2014 10:04:39 PM Report

@ frio, what does that post even mean? it's 4 hours longer going all the way around the lake, how is that cheaper?
Frio 5/27/2014 10:26:47 PM Report

@tbone, So going around the crappy Highway 129 north from Thessalon to Chapleau and back across to Wawa to T Bay is faster and cheaper and makes more sense? Gas is over 30% cheaper in Michigan.. Whatever turns your crank. Enjoy !
summer95 5/27/2014 10:40:32 PM Report

@tbone029 *couldn't *should *Chapleau *Lake Superior. Well if you want to solve the issue of making the highway all four lanes and "fixing" the Chapleau highway, it would still need road construction which would, SURPRISE!, slow people down and possibly cause detours. Think before you type and please.....get a dictionary and grammar lessons! It's only two days, and yes I agree, it would have been a better choice to leave one lane open and direct traffic, but instead they have decided to get it done in one go. Yes this detour will affect many people and yes this detour will slow down many travelers including transports, and quite possibly someone whose mother might have passed away in Thunder Bay, but if they need to get somewhere, they can take the detour if it's that important to them!
S.M.A.R.T. 5/28/2014 1:19:10 AM Report

Hudak won't even bother going to Thunder Bay for a leaders' debate. That should make even the "everything is nice, let's be nice" knotheads understand that we up here are disrespected. Time to bring back Ed Diebel and the Heritage Party of Northern Ontario, create a separate province, go held bent on developing the Ring of Fire, and leave the south and Toronto in our dust. CP Rail can replace washed out culverts in 8 hours because otherwise big money is lost. Why can't that be done on the Trans Canada. In other words, why must an overnight job turn into a two day mega project? Boggles the mind.
dadal 5/28/2014 5:12:20 AM Report

Guys.....

The point is, our Trans Canada Highway is closed for emergency repairs because NO political party will agree to expand it to 4 lanes between the Soo and Thunder Bay. If it was a 4 lane highway, they would only have to close one side and traffic would still flow.

Driving to Chapleau is just as a slow as travelling thru Michigan, which is NOT an extra 4 hours-I've done it many many times.
crashed13 5/28/2014 8:26:31 AM Report

One single lane bridge missing east and north on Hwy 17 and the Sault essentially turns into one big fly in fishing camp to the rest of Canada.
MYPOINT 5/28/2014 8:42:33 AM Report

The people of Northern Ontario should begin the process of separating from Southern Ontario as soon as possible. It is quite obvious to many people here in the north that we have been taken for granted for much too long. Most politicians seem to think that ONTARIO ends just outside of Toronto or Barrie or something.

The ONLY time these lying, cheating, no good for anything politicians even look at a map of Northern Ontario is when they are planning on stealing the vast resources in this area OR when there is an election coming up ( Federal or Provincial ).

I have always wondered why the Feds did not get their act together years ago and do the 4 laning of the entire Trans Canada Highway. This would have definitely helped the unemployment situation by creating a large amount of jobs for the entire Province and Country. These jobs would not have been limited to just construction work either. Obviously these construction workers would have stayed in our local Hotels/ Motels and would have eaten at our local restaurants, bought gas at our local gas stations and other things at our other local businesses etc. etc. It would have been a win - win situation for everyone.

No doubt there are going to be those who will somehow find some fault with this reasoning. Some might say that it would cost too much to do this sort of thing. My response would be simply that when unemployed people finally get jobs and start buying things and pay their fair share of taxes, much of these costs would be recouped sooner or later. In addition, we would finally have a truly national TRANS CANADA HIGHWAY ! It worked for Sir John A. generations ago when the railways were built to cover this entire Country, why would it not work now with our highway system?

As always, this is only my opinion :)
Frio 5/28/2014 2:33:17 PM Report

@ MYPOINT..In 2005 estimates for the construction of a divided 4 lane Hwy 69 from Parry Sound to Subdury was $10 million a km. and $8-$12 million per interchange. The project, which was originally expected to cost about $1 billion, has since increased in cost to about $3 billion to finish four-laning all the way to Sudbury by 2017, a distance of approx. 160 km. It is approx. 1500 km from Sudbury to Kenora, so 10 times the distance of Parry Sound to Sudbury, $30 billion plus inflation. I'm sure the governement will get right on it.
S.M.A.R.T. 5/28/2014 3:56:21 PM Report

MYPOINT. You are right on! Frio, reference your data otherwise it's just a whole lot of hot air. ZING! Frio you're fried.
Frio 5/28/2014 5:34:25 PM Report

S.M.A.R.T..Learn how to use "Google" for information. You might actually learn something before making baseless comments. Start with "Ontario Highway 69 costs". and possibly you will be able to find..

11) How much does four-laning cost?

On average, it costs $10 million per kilometer, plus an additional $8 to $12 million per interchange to build a four-lane highway in Northern Ontario. The proposed four-laning of Highway 69 represents a significant investment in northern infrastructure and economic development.

From the Sudbury Star..The project, which was originally expected to cost about $1 billion, has since increased cost to about $3 billion, but Bartolucci insists the province will press on to finish four-laning all the way to Sudbury by 2017.

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