We asked the candidates about: Jobs, jobs, jobsMonday, May 26, 2014 by: Darren Taylor
Affordability for the people of Sault Ste. Marie has been named by the NDP as a core issue for Ontarians in the 2014 provincial election campaign, and of course, nothing is affordable if you’re unemployed or under-employed.
With an emphasis on ‘jobs, job, jobs’ (a not-so-original but memorable quote made by Brian Mulroney in the 1984 federal election campaign), SooToday.com asked what are the three main provincial party platforms in regards to job creation, and especially in regards to Sault Ste. Marie?
Rod Fremlin, Progressive Conservative candidate for Sault Ste. Marie, offered his thoughts on what he feels is right for Sault Ste. Marie.
“I’m going to lobby to get the Sault moving again, to the way it was when everybody was happy and working. I’m going to do my hardest to get what I can get for our city.”
Progressive Conservative leader Tim Hudak has promised a million jobs for Ontario over the next eight years, even going as far as trying to project, in exact numbers, how and where those jobs would be created.
For example, Hudak said 119,808 jobs would be generated if corporate tax rates are cut from 11.5 percent to eight percent.
Economic experts have said projections such as these are impossible to rely on, also pointing out that 523,000 jobs will be created in the province by 2022, regardless of which party governs Ontario.
“I’m not going to promise anything (in terms of job numbers) but I’m going to work as hard as I can to get everything possible for the Sault,” Fremlin said.
“When we get elected the whole scope is to lower taxes in both corporate and personal taxes…there’s a lot of small businesses out there spinning their tires, so we’ll reduce taxes for them,” Fremlin said, with the belief that tax cuts and tax credits are essential to job creation.
Fremlin said there needs to be more skilled trades training.
“You can make $100,000 a year doing carpentry if you work at it, but we need to train people to do it.”
“Not everybody can work at Tim Horton’s…young people deserve an opportunity,” Fremlin said.
“Contracting out by these big companies…that’s got to change.”
“We’ve got one of the richest families in the world owning Essar Steel but anybody who gets hired there is on a three-month contract now…there are a lot of retirees that are coming back in who’ve already got a pension.”
“The younger generation is not getting a chance,” Fremlin said.
Fremlin said he would fight to cut energy prices for local employers as well, to free up money to hire more employees.
There will be retraining money for those people who have lost their jobs in the embattled retail sector too, Fremlin said.
Fremlin said he does not support the modernization process at OLG, or the proposed sale of the LCBO, saying that such moves will be job killers.
PC leader Hudak has raised many eyebrows by saying he would slash 100,000 jobs from the Ontario civil service as part of a deficit killing strategy.
“It will be through attrition and I don’t know why the media doesn’t publicize that because everyone panics, thinking they are going to be one of the 100,000…that only panics people and they’re going to put their X beside another candidate’s name.”
Celia Ross, NDP candidate for Sault Ste. Marie, echoed her party’s call for a manufacturer’s tax credit as key for job creation.
“We will have a manufacturer’s tax credit for those that are investing in equipment and upgrading their plants…we want Essar here for the long run,” Ross said.
“Youth unemployment is a real concern.”
“The NDP will continue to support existing internships but we also have a plan to create 25,000 jobs over two years in which skills training will be highly emphasized.”
Many jobs are part-time with no benefits, Ross said.
“It will be important to look at minimum wage,” Ross said.
The NDP, she said, will increase it to $12 an hour (up from the current Liberal government increase to $11, tied to the rate of inflation, that takes effect June 1) and pegged to the rate of inflation.
“If people are poor that will affect the whole economy…it’s a spiral.”
The Northern Ontario Heritage Fund Corporation (NOHFC), a key regional economic development agency for northern Ontario, as well as the Sault Ste. Marie Innovation Centre, will receive support from an NDP government in order to generate job growth, Ross said.
Jobs will also be created through infrastructure projects, Ross said.
“We advocate infrastructure spending…we’ll four-lane at least 30 kilometres of highway per year as an example of how we would improve and maintain infrastructure (which generates jobs).”
Incumbent Liberal MPP David Orazietti said his party’s proposed but defeated budget is a job-creator.
Orazietti listed off several key budget items, including a new $2.5 billion jobs and prosperity plan fund over 10 years “to support local businesses and create good-paying jobs.”
“We’ve reduced the tax rates for business owners, saving businesses over $500 million across Ontario.”
“We have, and will continue to provide, help with power costs for Essar Steel Algoma, Tenaris and Flakeboard to protect jobs at those businesses and keep them competitive,” Orazietti said, doubting such help would be available from the PCs or NDP.
Information technology jobs will be created through continued support for the Innovation Centre, Orazietti said.
Orazietti said the Liberals have helped create approximately 150 skilled trades positions at Essar Steel Algoma through an apprenticeship training program.
Through a 10-year, $130 billion infrastructure program, four-laning of part of the Trans-Canada Highway near the Sault and building of structures such as new schools “will help put people to work across Ontario,” Orazietti said.
There will be a $295 million fund over two years for a youth job strategy aimed at giving young people the job skills they need.
Specifically northern, Orazietti said the NOHFC, under the Liberals, has received $87 million for various projects, creating or retaining over 2,600 jobs, approximately 500 of those in Sault Ste. Marie.
Taking a swipe at the Liberal government’s rivals, Orazietti said unemployment in Sault Ste. Marie stood at a staggering 19 percent during the days of NDP government from 1990 to 1995.
Orazietti said Sault Ste. Marie and northern Ontario does not matter to the Progressive Conservatives, noting that PC leader Hudak has opted not to participate in the party leaders debate on northern issues scheduled for Monday in Thunder Bay, and Orazietti said the Sault would suffer under his plan to merge the Ministry of Natural Resources with the Ministry of Northern Development and Mines.
“These are two very significant ministries in the north with a very large footprint, with hundreds of jobs…(under Hudak) there will be job losses locally,” Orazietti said.
B Boy 5/26/2014 9:48:49 AM Report
I agree that the 'younger generation' needs a chance, but so do other generations. I'm getting the impression that all 3 parties are strongly focusing on the youngest generation and completely forgetting about others.
ssm101 5/26/2014 9:55:00 AM Report
We should be asking : Careers,careers,careers.
Jobs can mean just $11 per hour part time and need 3 jobs to pay rent.
IgnorantNortherner 5/26/2014 9:55:00 AM Report
Before taking the 'lesser of the evils' voting strategy ask yourself how voting for a known evil could ever make things right....if you recognize we have serious problems that need fixing, that is.
When you vote for the status quo, you get the government you deserve.
SuperiorGuy 5/26/2014 10:13:09 AM Report
Key to this riding is loss of OLG jobs that privatization will cause and yet no question to the Liberal candidate to justify his party's stand. Of key interest to this and all Northern Ontario ridings is the PC proposal to merge two ministries critical to Northern Ontario survival. There would be service and job loss. Yet, no question to the candidate to justify his party's position. A candidate debate might get to those underling issues and that will help many decide how to vote, but so far as voters know, there is no local debate and the one in Thunder Bay for two of three leaders will likely not have any Saut area concerns asked about.
B Boy 5/26/2014 10:23:46 AM Report
Looks like the anti-liberal comments are being washed away again.
BT1979 5/26/2014 10:46:17 AM Report
The concern here is that Sault Ste. Marie despite younger or older is behind in economic term. We are behind in everything. Queen Street is falling apart, people are leaving the Sault to look for well paying jobs, job security, building a family because of career success. We are falling apart here in the Sault. I do not really care about the .01% up to 1% of the population increase or projected job creation that has happened. You really think that's enough? Ottawa, Toronto, Sudbury and every other city out there is DEVELOPING at high speed. People from out of town have said to me "YOU ARE BEHIND! There are jobs where we live!" Young or old....people are leaving SIMPLE...so what will you do to create well paying jobs for people to stay? That's the question and it better be more than a promise. Let companies in. Invite huge corporations into Sault Ste. Marie to develop 100's of jobs so that invites 100's of families here for US locally...NOT 1 or 2...
How about that platform!
yomamaissofat 5/26/2014 10:58:49 AM Report
How about starting by getting rid of the Ontario College of Trades!!! Talk about a money grab!!! Up to 300% increase to most trades, not phased in, immediately policed, etc...
What a waste of money and another reason to dump the Liberals!!!!
Mr. Poster 5/26/2014 11:17:29 AM Report
Its kind of strange...our mayor and city councillors likely think they are doing a very good job.
ssm101 5/26/2014 12:03:07 PM Report
years ago Honda wanted to build a car plant here and would have supplied 2000 + jobs directly 100s of jobs indirectly , this city told them to go elsewhere.They built it in Barrie. I gess this City would like to fill the empty buildings with call centers.
MYPOINT 5/26/2014 12:23:11 PM Report
There is ( or was ) an old adage that went something like this ... " The only time you can tell that a politician is lying is when he or she opens their mouths and says anything". I am beginning to believe this is the case during the upcoming election campaigns also.
It is funny, I still have not received any kind of reply to my very first original question to ALL of the local candidates ... therefore I shall ask it again. I do KNOW that these local candidates ( or some of their staff ) are reading these comments so there will be no excuse for no answer from them.
"OPEN QUESTION FOR ALL OF THE LOCAL CANDIDATES IN THE UPCOMING ELECTION "
IF I give you my vote, will YOU insist that your party implement a 'recall' system ( 51% +1 ) for the next election so that we, the voters, can fire any candidate that does not keep his or her promises to us during these elections?" "Will you do this insisting during the public airing of the Legislature and in public so that we can see that you are , indeed , keeping your word to us?"
justsomeguy 5/26/2014 12:29:19 PM Report
Mypoint - I would be shocked if:
1. You received a direct resonse
2. If any party agreed to that
Contrary to what they claim, parties don't want to be challenged nor do they want any transparency or direct accountability.
pakenne 5/26/2014 12:41:57 PM Report
There are not too many people in Sault Ste. Marie making $100,000 per year doing carpentry work.
BT1979 5/26/2014 12:43:23 PM Report
AWESOME AND WELL SAID ssm101
That's what I'm talking about...someone with actual intelligence. This is where we would have benefited from...
eadiecougs 5/26/2014 12:54:37 PM Report
ssm 101 that was a rumor no evidence was ever giving about the car plant I myself wish it came here but we need facts
ranny 5/26/2014 12:58:42 PM Report
JOBS!!!! real jobs. Not just opening more call center. Real jobs like firms, business, factory and etc. Everyone who can benefit from this. Instead of wondering why the population is going down and why people are leaving the Sault for jobs.
eadiecougs 5/26/2014 12:58:52 PM Report
the mayor cares about only the OLG jobs because of her friends there and where is slick bryan hayes in all this he has done nothing for the sault.The sault is retirement community period u will never get a plant here maybe a bug lab yippee wow alot of jobs from that city hall dont have a clue how to move forward as long as they get paid they are happy.
steelworker 5/26/2014 1:08:02 PM Report
Maybe Katey Wynne could move a couple of gas plants up north so as not to upset the voters down south.
ssm101 5/26/2014 1:20:37 PM Report
eadiecougs the Fact is Honda built in Barrie not in the Soo The Question that you need to ask is why? We need something her in the Soo to support the steelplant .Lets make a so called rumor reality!If not Honda Lets get someone else.
Me Myself an I 5/26/2014 2:51:58 PM Report
despite the fact that there is 30+ years of proof that corporate tax cuts do not create jobs, I find it disturbing that the PCs still beat that dead horse
MYPOINT 5/26/2014 5:20:04 PM Report
I agree with your opinion 100% my friend :)
As always, other views may differ :)
freedom1 5/27/2014 6:34:33 AM Report
"CONservative leader Tim Hudak has promised a million jobs for Ontario over the next eight years" When ever a politician says they are going to create jobs they are outright lying. They cannot create even one job, unless its in the public sector, and its the public jobs they are cutting. The government can't tell a private company to hire anyone. So Tim Hudak can't even create 1 job not to mention a million, so he's lying a million times over.
speed7 6/2/2014 8:08:39 AM Report
they coiuld hire summer students which actually takes local jobs away. i agree dont listen to theses copnsevative wolve's in sheep's clothing. the agendas are that candidates want a nice golden pension this city was bieng neglected for far too long
speed7 6/2/2014 8:09:01 AM Report
they could hire summer students which actually takes local jobs away. i agree dont listen to theses copnsevative wolve's in sheep's clothing. the agendas are that candidates want a nice golden pension this city was bieng neglected for far too long