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Hudak gives northerns the cold shoulder: says Orazietti

Wednesday, May 21, 2014   by: Staff
Hudak refused to attend leaders debate in Northern Ontario
Ontario Liberals committed to protecting important services and strengthening northern economy
SAULT STE. MARIE - PC Leader Tim Hudak recently announced that he has decided to skip the Northern Leaders Debate, which is scheduled for Monday in Thunder Bay. 
“Our party understands Northern Ontario’s important economic benefits as well as the unique challenges that Northerners face on a daily basis and we will continue to make significant investments in public services and we are committed to further strengthening the economy and job creation,” said David Orazietti, Liberal candidate. “It is disappointing that Hudak has chosen to give Northerners the cold shoulder but it’s not surprising, after all, when they were in government the PC’s failed to appoint a Northerner as Minister of Northern Development and Mines and just last week Hudak said he wanted to eliminate one of either the Ministry of Northern Development and Mines or the Ministry of Natural Resources.”
During the eight years the provincial PC’s were in power (1995 - 2003) no Northerner served as the Minister of Northern Development and Mines.
The NDP neglected Northerners by cutting $60 million from the Ministry of Northern Development and Mines, NOHFC economic development program, shortchanging Northern residents.
In contrast, the Liberals immediately appointed a Northerner as Minister of Northern Development and Mines when they formed government in 2003 and have increased the NOHFC program from $60 million to $100 million.
Specific examples of health care, education and job creation initiatives and investments contained in the 2014 Liberal Budget plan include:
Health care
  • An additional investment of $750 million by 2016/17 for home and community care services for seniors, which includes $270 million for this year

  • Increasing wages for Personal Support Worked (PSWs)

  • Expanding access to health benefits such as prescription drugs, assistive devices, vision care and dental care to approximately 500,000 children from low-income families

  • Continue to expand Health Links to better coordinate care for patients in the community so patients don’t have to go to the hospital

  • Continue to improve access to primary care by increasing the availability of same day/next day appointments

  • Providing an additional $11 billion over the next ten years for elementary and secondary education infrastructure

  • Investing $150 million over three years in new technology and learning tools in schools, so that Ontario’s schools remain the best in the world

  • $269 million over three years to increase wages for Early Childhood Educators (ECEs)

  • Saving families $6,500 per child per year and providing children with the best possible start in school through full-day kindergarten for four and five-year olds

Job Creation
  • Establish a new 10-year, $2.5 billion Jobs and Prosperity Fund that will improve Ontario's ability to attract significant business investments, strengthen Ontario's strategic sectors and support the province's future economic growth

  • Investing $295 million over two years for the Ontario Youth Jobs Strategy, which gives young people the opportunity to gain a foothold in the job market. Since September 2013, it has already helped over 10,000 young people gain work experience and find employment opportunities 


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Twistinwrenches 5/21/2014 10:48:16 PM Report

Is it just me or does Dave get a lot of free advertising on the local news here.

Norm 5/21/2014 10:51:00 PM Report

Is David still giving us our own money. The Liberals gave the North windmill after windmill after windmill. What good are these turbines, not sure, still waiting.
6 fan 5/21/2014 11:00:02 PM Report

Still the better party over all
ThinkAgain 5/21/2014 11:11:01 PM Report

Sootoday and the Liberals both garbage but you still have to put up with it
Mr. Poster 5/21/2014 11:15:15 PM Report

David...your boss is not exactly all warm and fuzzy about the North. You cannot defend your parties record and cannot run on your record so you do all that is left,,,,attack your opponents. I am not interested in what you feel is wrong with Hudak....I want to know what you and the Liberals are honestly going to do to correct all the wrongs commited by the Liberals.
Mr. Poster 5/21/2014 11:16:29 PM Report

Sootoday...why do you give such extensive coverage for David O and have not bothered to even look up a picture of Mr. Fremlin ???
ti-guy 5/21/2014 11:47:15 PM Report

Mr Poster is right....maybe Joe put the word out for David....dont forget ...'the best man for the job'
scottstewy123 5/22/2014 12:06:54 AM Report

wonder how much kick back money sootoday got from the Liberal party hmmmmm.
soowat 5/22/2014 3:33:54 AM Report

Perhaps those of you that are complaining about there amount of coverage that Mr. Orazietti receives should acknowledge the obvious. Mr. Orazietti is the only candidate with something to say that is worth publishing
sportsfan17 5/22/2014 5:18:57 AM Report

It's not sootoday's fault that Fremlin hasn't realized even a smitten of campaign policy. The guy is useless. You really want him representing us?
MYPOINT 5/22/2014 6:49:40 AM Report

is as follows ...


If I decide to give you my vote, will YOU see to it that some sort of recall method is put in place for the next election and will YOU put this promise in writing?

That is a very simple question and I KNOW that either you or one of your many campaign people are reading the comments from all of these election articles.

I have posted this numerous times and I have yet to get a response which IS a response in itself as far as I am concerned !

As always, your views may differ :)
Jimssm 5/22/2014 6:58:31 AM Report

It's called a NEWS RELEASE.... which the Liberals put out every day.

Sootoday can't help it if the local PC's aren't organized enough to issue one.

Mr. Poster 5/22/2014 7:23:47 AM Report

Local voters have to be disappointed in the choices presented.
We have DAVID O representing a scandal ridden Liberal party that has made this a has been province.

We have CELIA ROSS representing the NDP who are having a difficult time coming up with a platform to present to votes, Her other problem is that this is her second attempt after having been soundly trounced last time.

We have MR. FREMLIN...a virtual unknown who has yet to release an official photo or press release outlining his intentions for Sault Ste. Marie.

What do voters do ???
mac headrick 5/22/2014 7:26:08 AM Report

In the last election the Liberal Premier at the time Dalton McGuinty refused to attend the Northern Ontario debate.

Did this indicate that the Liberal Party doesn't care for this area?

The above statement is not intended to support either the Conservative or Liberal Party.

Just a little balance.
MYPOINT 5/22/2014 7:32:16 AM Report


Although I may disagree with some of your comments from time to time, I would fight to the death for you to have the right to post your comments, regardless of whether or not I agreed with them.

Just saying ...

As always, your views may differ from mine :)

Montec 125 5/22/2014 7:50:22 AM Report

Lovely list to buy your vote. Ontario requires everything that is on that list but how much of it would normally have been spent. Now how are you going to eliminate Ontario's deficit? Remember the huge debt in the USA. Detroit?? Look at all the parties track records. Yikes. Going to be a tough decision. Nuff said.
right wing 5/22/2014 7:56:41 AM Report

Glad to see you point that out Mac.
I would like to see some real news reporting that would include that information in these self written "news releases".
GoHoundsGo 5/22/2014 8:10:24 AM Report

Well its time I share my thoughts on the upcoming election. I consider my myself an independant, not a liberal or conservative. I have ALWAYS voted for the person who I thought would best serve our community. Now, I think Dave is probally a real nice guy, met him once, seemed pleasant and all, but I'm sorry Minister, there is now way in hell I can vote for a party that has mismanaged billions in tax payer monies through endless scandles. Like I said earlier, I always vote for the candidate that would best serve our community, but not this time, you are just in the wrong party Minister. What your party did, I believe is criminal and your leader, our Premier has done not one damn thing about it, no heads rolled, nobody went to jail, no one held accountable. I don't need to name all the scandles and mismanagement, we all know the long list. On the PC way in hell, I akin the Hudak led PC's to the Tea Party or extreme right wing of the USA if you will. Hudak believes in the most disproven economic theory in the world...trickle down economics...If you don't know what it it. But basically for the PC's its about the rich getting richer, the poor remaining poor or getting poorer, and the haves having everything and the have nots giving up even more. Its all there in thier platform, and you don't even have to read between the lines. So that leaves Celia Ross, the NDP platform is a little wishy washy so far, but I know this, she is highly educated, seems extremely honest and has alot of experience in mgt.,(University). I'm not a huge fan of any particular party, liking the PC's the least but the NDP seem to be the lesser of the three evils. But for any person to vote PC, you are either rich (250000+ per year) in which case I understand, you run a multi million dollar company, or you are a brain washed simpleton like all those Tea Party people in the USA who constantly vote against thier own interests. Who fallen for the mantra, that taxing the wealthy is bad "cause they're the job creaters" and taxing corporations is bad cause "they will go to where they payless taxes" bith have been proven statiscally inaccurate. But I do believe in responsible taxation, the more you make...the more you pay...simple. Anywho, sorry this was so long, I'm simply saying vote for the candidate that best represents YOUR interests.
streaker 5/22/2014 8:16:08 AM Report

David does not tell you that he is in the progress of helping the north by raising the outdoor licenses,fees on outdoors cards and sport fishing ,and hunting. also imposing a recreational vehicle tax,and creating a license fee for seniors over sixty-five that was always free.Look it up in the Ontora website or check out MNR news .You have until june the 2/14 to put in your input. most people have not even heard about this.
bbcat 5/22/2014 8:26:45 AM Report

bbcat 5/22/2014 8:28:57 AM Report

SO DID YOU DAVID,right along with Hudak
yomamaissofat 5/22/2014 8:54:52 AM Report

ti-guy...what's your point???
It seems that in every article, you go way off topic!!?! Time to get over it!!!
cjborg 5/22/2014 8:54:56 AM Report

Interesting article in Soo Today's National Section... worth the read...
quoted in part...................

"Baloney Meter: Really 1M jobs in Tory plan?
Steve Rennie, The Canadian Press

OTTAWA - "When it comes to jobs, big achievements start with bold goals. That's why we are proposing a plan that will help create one million jobs over the next eight years."

— Ontario PC Party, "Million Jobs Plan"

Part of Ontario PC Leader Tim Hudak's pitch to voters is a plan he says will help create a million jobs in the province by 2022. The proposal on the party's website does not provide a detailed breakdown, but a technical backgrounder released to journalists last week offers some insight into how they arrived at the million-jobs number.

So, will Hudak's plan actually help create one million jobs over the next eight years?

Spoiler alert: The Canadian Press Baloney Meter is a dispassionate examination of political statements that culminates in a ranking of accuracy based on a scale of "no baloney" to "full of baloney" (complete methodology below)."....

Unquote:.............. when you compare this "SOME BALONEY" plan with Dave's proven local record of achievement you can't help but appreciate that the Soo and area has been very well represented and served...

Locally, the NDP and PC's appear to have very little to offer in their own; history, current platforms, leadership or local representation at this time.

I for one, will support Dave while holding my nose due to the stench of his Leader/s past business mismanagement, errors and waste.

Keep up the great job Dave.. even if your Leader fails to win a majority ... (You deserve to continue to be our local representative for your proven untiring efforts and successes.)
Entity 5/22/2014 8:56:08 AM Report aka
Sammy1099 5/22/2014 8:56:50 AM Report


How else are they supposed to pay for hemorrhaging money for the past decade.

Think of all the good that could have been done, just with the money they pissed away in the last decade. How many more hospitals, Doctors, Nurses, roads and policies that encourage industry to set-up here. Maybe we could have actually reduced taxes.

A small country could run efficently on just what the liberals flush down the toilet ever year.

Yea David whose going to pay for all your bright ideas. I have an idea why don't all you crooks work a year for no pay then reduce your pensions. That is the least you can do.
Wisenheimer 5/22/2014 8:59:47 AM Report

The election will be decided in the boroughs of the GTA.
Another secret ... the "real" head office of the OLG is "really" in T.O.
If Hudak comes here more than once, it will be because the polls show it makes sense.
You're welcome.
Mr. Poster 5/22/2014 9:03:25 AM Report

Hudak may not even know who is running for the Cons in this city. the candidate seems to be in hiding.
soowat 5/22/2014 10:28:26 AM Report

right wing

Totally agree with your comment about reporting.

Unfortunately, The Sault Star has been stripped of reporting talent to the point that the few that are left either don't have the time and/or the paper can't and/or won't provide the budget necessary. SOOTODAY aka local 2. doesn't appear to have reporting talent,contenting themselves with printing news releases and cutesy pictures sent in by "loyal Readers."

The electronic media either appears to have no reporting staff (in the case of radio) or reporting staff (in the case of television) that are too inexperienced for a political assignment.
frnlak 5/22/2014 12:11:42 PM Report

That I have wanted to respond to your comments on several occasions but have not. Especially when it comes to health care. You state that your wife is an RPN (nurse), and I understand that you are proud of her as you should be but please do not compare apples to oranges. An RPN is NOT a real nurse (RN). There is absolutely NO comparison between a Four year university nursing degree and certificate from a two year nursing course at a community college. That being said, If I ever have the misfortune of being a patient at the SAH, I will certainly demand to have RN (real nurse) coverage only, as per my right to do so. I paid for the best, I expect the best.
Of course this is my opinion only, others my differ. :)
chatterbox 5/22/2014 12:12:05 PM Report

By 'recall procedure' do you mean legislation to turf an elected official? Rob Ford?

On another note, I agree with many posters. I'm having great difficulties in determining who to vote for. Hudak's Conservatives are a bit too extreme for me. The NDP's don't have much of a platform at this point. As a community I suspect we will benefit most at having Mr. Orazietti in office, but I can't say I'm terribly thrilled with some of the things (not necessarily his doing) happening, especially as they relate to the Ministry of Natural Resources.

I pose the following questions/comments that are important to me, and directly relate to our MPP's current MNR portfolio:

1. I would like to see the Province recognize the local and tourism importance of maintaining resource roads such as the Whitman Damn road, which grant us access to the quintessential Northern Ontario experience that so many of us live here for.
2. I would like to see BIGincreases in penalties for those who break fishing/hunting laws, especially those from out of Province/Country, as well as resort/lodge operators.
3. Call me communist, and please correct me if I'm wrong (maybe this is a federal matter), but it's my belief that our natural resources belong to us. Companies from outside of Canada should not be able to purchase more than lets say 10acres of land for resource purposes, whether its renewable energy, logging, mining, etc...If you are going to be buying up several townships, you should at least be required to set up a company in Canada, staffed by canadians, with taxes being paid to Canada.

Apart from eachother, our greatest provincial resource is our natural resources. These need to be protected, and we need to figure out a way to ensure that profits from OUR resources are not siphoned outside of the Country.

Lets not forget that our natural resources in large part give us our G8 standing. With global resources dwindling, lets not sell our souls for short term gains.

To this end, my 4th point: The MNR, which in my opinion is an extremely important ministry, has undergone so many cuts, especially recently. I find this current provincial focus misplaced and troubling. I would like to see funding restored back to the MNR.

For the record: I do not work for the MNR, either directly or indirectly.
B Boy 5/22/2014 12:47:48 PM Report

My understanding that under the leadership of the Minister of Natural Resources, some MNR functions were outsourced to the United States such as outdoors cards. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Given the high local unemployment & commercial building vacancy rates, I would think that a local Minister would keep this city in mind rather than sending jobs away.

Can we expect this to continue with Orazietti as the Minister of NR?
chatterbox 5/22/2014 12:51:00 PM Report

Great point B Boy, not like we have local call centres or anything...
OH IT'S ME AGAIN 5/22/2014 3:00:57 PM Report

Since this is the only article relating to the upcoming provincial election posted I will take this opportunity to comment on an issue that I have noticed over the last week or so and finally have decided to comment.
The local NDP riding group have located a large sign on the site of the Constable Don Doucette memorial at the corner of Black Road and McNabb. I find this a total disrespect of this police officer, his fellow police officers and his family. With all the locations available , why here?????????? Election rules state that no political adds are to be located in areas of the Cenataph at the court house, the memorial at Gore and Wellington, ect..ect..This area for Constable Doucette should be treated as all other memorials in the city.
Please someone react to this!!!!!!!
I hope this situation does not reflect the respect that this party would have for us if elected.
yomamaissofat 5/22/2014 8:44:11 PM Report

Why don't YOU react to this?!?
I agree with what you're saying, but if you can complain on this forum, you can complain to the campaigning office, no?
OH IT'S ME AGAIN 5/22/2014 10:08:04 PM Report

I tried dealing with NDP people in the past when Martin was our MP and was completed disgusted with the attitude and unprofessionalism displayed by Martin's office staff when I requested clarity on some issues . Since my opinion differed from their's I was yelled at and exposed to very abusive language.I think everyone knows who I am referring to as she had many similar situations with many others. Therefore I refuse to discuss any issue with anyone who represents this party (NDP).Should not paint all with the same brush but the treatment I received on these occasions leaves me no alternative.
guestwho 5/22/2014 11:54:39 PM Report

northerns or northerners??
guestwho 5/22/2014 11:54:39 PM Report

northerns or northerners??
guestwho 5/22/2014 11:56:38 PM Report

WOW my point was so important it showed up twice with one click!!
MYPOINT 5/23/2014 5:19:15 PM Report


First of all, thank you because I am very proud of my wife regardless of her profession as a NURSE.

I will now explain to you why you are sadly mistaken when you say an RPN is not a 'real' Nurse!! I will agree that someone who has a BSCn has taken more 'in depth' training but that does not mean that someone who is an RPN is not a 'real' Nurse.

If you will go to the CNO website ( College of NURSES for Ontario ),you will find that indeed, RPN's are 'real' Nurses and are allowed by law to use that title. In addition, they are governed by the same body ( CNO ) as RN's and even those who have a BSCn.

In fact, you may be surprised to learn that there are some RN's right now who actually have 'LESS' education than many RPN's today. Back in the 1960's when there were no such things as BSCn students, many of these RN's did NOT have to take the same types of courses that the current RPN's of today must take prior to writing the CNO NURSING EXAMS. In addition, as of right now, there is absolutely NO requirement for any RN to upgrade to a BSCn in order to use the title RN or Nurse.

You further state something about my wife getting a 'certificate' from our local college. Again, you are in error! My wife did NOT just get some ridiculous certificate ( that is for PSW's etc ), she got a diploma, then went to Toronto to write the CNO NURSING EXAMS prior to becoming a 'real' NURSE!

In fact, my wife took even more courses than a sister of mine who wrote the same NURSING EXAMS to become an RN back in the 1960's prior to the title BSCn even coming into existence!

You further state that you will demand to have a 'real' Nurse if you should ever have to go to the hospital. I can assure you that you will, indeed, have a 'real' Nurse when you are admitted to the SAH. You will be given a Nurse who IS qualified to provide the care you require and if that happens to be an RPN, then that is what you will get and you have NO say about that decision - especially if the only reason you want to have a BSCn is because you think you deserve one!!

Let me try and explain it this way. If there is 'critical' patient who requires someone who holds a BSCn because of the more 'in depth' training they have taken, then that patient WILL get a BSCn for their care. If your medical problem does NOT require someone who holds a BSCn, then you may NOT necessarily get a BSCn for your care - regardless of how much you demand same!

The SAH, like any other hospital, will not just assign you a person who holds a BSCn simply because YOU think you have the right to have one provide your medical care. The decision regarding your medical care is decided upon by the medical TEAM ( doctors, nurses of all stripes , therapists etc etc. ) and you will be assigned someone appropriate for the care required!

In the future, I would suggest that you please ensure that you have proper information before you state things which are not true.

As always, your views may differ from mine :)
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