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Arrest made in gunpoint robbery

Monday, May 19, 2014   by: SooToday.com Staff

NEWS RELEASE

SAULT STE. MARIE POLICE SERVICE

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On May 19, 2014 it is alleged that the accused Jonathan Nathaniel Thompson, age 19 of 6 Copernicus Drive, entered a residence in the 800 block of Pine Street and robbed the resident at gun point of money.

While in the residence the accused was [allegedly] masked in an attempt to hide his identity.

The accused also [allegedly] obtained the victim’s car keys and on leaving stole the victim’s vehicle. With the assistance of Batchewana First Nation Police (Rankin) and the OPP, city police apprehended the accused near the MacDonald’s Restaurant on Trunk Road.

The accused was found in possession of stolen property and a replica hand gun. 

The accused stands charged with robbery with a firearm, wearing a disguise in the commission of an offence, pointing a firearm, concealing a firearm, theft over $5,000, possession over $5,000 and possession under $5,000.  

The accused will appear in Wash Court (weekend and statutory holiday court) on May 19, 2014.

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AlwaysAWinner 5/19/2014 8:07:57 AM Report

" The accused was found in possession of stolen property and a replica hand gun.

The accused stands charged with robbery with a firearm, wearing a disguise in the commission of an offence, pointing a firearm, concealing a firearm, theft over $5,000, possession over $5,000 and possession under $5,000. "

LOL

fake gun, charged with pointing a gun, having a gun, concealing a gun. but it wasn't a gun. what the hell lol

and possession over $5,000 and possession UNDER $5,000. Which is it? LOL
BigDaddy 5/19/2014 8:18:48 AM Report

Lol? I find nothing funny about this
jade 5/19/2014 8:23:29 AM Report

it was robbery gun or no gun it could have been real you never know
Mr. Poster 5/19/2014 8:23:56 AM Report

I suspect the victim is not finding this funny either.
CBSA 5/19/2014 8:29:59 AM Report

"AlwaysAWinner"

You sound like a looser!!!!!!!!!
You have a very sick / odd sense of humor. Bet you if it was your name in the story you wouldn't think it was very funny.
James O'Brien 5/19/2014 8:31:39 AM Report

The vehicle was likely over $5000 and the cash under $5000. Maybe comments should wait until after the morning coffee.
THE RELIC 5/19/2014 8:35:58 AM Report

So...using a fake gun, replica, cap gun, toy gun, your finger in a pocket during the commission of a crime= The "gun" will be treated as "real" - LAW


Theft over= Stolen Car

Theft under= all the other stuff he stole during the robbery

Possession= having on his person the stolen goods
MYPOINT 5/19/2014 8:37:28 AM Report

For those who think this is humorous, I am willing to bet that you would be one of the first to cry like a baby when a gun ( fake or not ) was pointed at you.

What I find hilarious is that it is the same names over and over and over again when it comes to crimes being committed in this city.

Although nothing was said about this person probably getting probation, maybe it is time to demand that our Judges actually put these people away for a spell, since it is obvious that probation does NOT work in most cases.

As always, your views may differ :)
jerjer 5/19/2014 8:45:32 AM Report

MYPOINT: you are right probation does not work for a lot of people, however it is those people who need the extra help as well, for example A LOT of counselling, or treatment/rehab, and not just 21 days of treatment either the courts should send people with addiction issue's to a mandatory term of 3 months or longer, and yur right it is always the same names over and over again however would it REALLY make a difference if it was a different name every day? no it would just mean that the Sault is actually getting worst and worst, where as it is right now its just certain people getting worst and worst, and as an ex addict let me tell you drugs/alcohol make you do a lot of stupid things, and you need to hit complete bottom before you change your lifestyle and some people however unfortunetly never find there bottom!!
Mr. Poster 5/19/2014 8:49:41 AM Report

Being remanded in jail without bail until a trial might give these thugs a chance to think about what they are doing. They are back on the streets too quickly. Heaven forbid they should have to stay in a jail cell.
THE RELIC 5/19/2014 8:56:38 AM Report

Using firearm in commission of offence
85. (1) Every person commits an offence who uses a firearm, whether or not the person causes or means to cause bodily harm to any person as a result of using the firearm,

(a) while committing an indictable offence, other than an offence under section 220 (criminal negligence causing death), 236 (manslaughter), 239 (attempted murder), 244 (discharging firearm with intent), 244.2 (discharging firearm — recklessness), 272 (sexual assault with a weapon) or 273 (aggravated sexual assault), subsection 279(1) (kidnapping) or section 279.1 (hostage taking), 344 (robbery) or 346 (extortion);
(b) while attempting to commit an indictable offence; or
(c) during flight after committing or attempting to commit an indictable offence.

Using imitation firearm in commission of offence
(2) Every person commits an offence who uses an imitation firearm

(a) while committing an indictable offence,
(b) while attempting to commit an indictable offence, or
(c) during flight after committing or attempting to commit an indictable offence,

whether or not the person causes or means to cause bodily harm to any person as a result of using the imitation firearm.
ThinkAgain 5/19/2014 9:02:58 AM Report

You all forget this city does not have any jail anymore, the closed it. Why I can not remember but its was the biggest mistake they ever made.

coachkids4life 5/19/2014 9:15:11 AM Report

Thinkagain; they amalgamated the city jail with northern treatment and remand center so no its not closed and yes we do have one.
old-cat33 5/19/2014 9:37:53 AM Report

Fake gun or not,it's a nice way to get yourself shot!
MYPOINT 5/19/2014 9:56:10 AM Report

@jerjer

I totally agree with you with respect to ensuring that when or if someone is given probation, they should make it mandatory that counselling is completed if it is found necessary. I further agree that minimum sentences should be implemented in place of being given just a couple weeks or whatever in jail. I also agree that it is not the fact that we see the same names over and over and over again that is the problem, it IS the fact that crime IS on the rise here whether we like it or not. Therefore, until our court Judges make much better decisions with regards to those who are using drugs etc. and end up committing these crimes, we will only see a further rise in crimes.

As a former hippie from way back, I actually have seen first hand what an addiction can do to a person and what it may cause them to do. It is very sad that some of court Judges are unable to see that these people need not only incarceration but actual help via some form of counselling to get them back on the right path in life.

As always, your views may differ :)
fcubed 5/19/2014 9:56:45 AM Report

I hope all who wish more offenders jailed have the resources to pay the increase in "correctional-services' cost.

According to media reports auditors and other experts indicate way too much over-crowding in our detention facilities.

Both Judges and politicians are between a rock and a hard place as no one wishes to pay the costs for more correctional services.
crashed13 5/19/2014 10:09:10 AM Report

Happened to a person I knew a long while back.

He used a fake gun in a corner store robbery. Turned out they treat a toy gun the same as a real gun.
The morron got more time (3 years) for the fake gun part then the actual robbery itself.
Gurpy 5/19/2014 10:39:46 AM Report

Adorable photo!
irishfey 5/19/2014 10:52:15 AM Report

It sure wouldn't have gone too well if the Victim had had a real gun on his person or near by now would it? I wonder if the tables turned and the Victim shot the young Lad with the fake gun, would he be charged?.. Hope this kid gets help...
I'm In 5/19/2014 11:05:26 AM Report

Vote Liberal they are for overcrowding in detention centres, correct these son's of b----'s instead by putting them in the army to straighten them out, seems like this guy is ready @ the age of 19.
Sam C 5/19/2014 11:24:01 AM Report

MYPOINT... you make a good point.

A "replica" gun is not a toy, it is identical to a real gun, but is incapable of firing. There is no way to know this when one is pointed at you.
phatbear336 5/19/2014 11:24:34 AM Report

@I'm in: I am pretty sure you are not allowed to be in the Army if you have been convicted of a crime. If you are already in the Army and you commit a crime you are generally dishonorably discharged and your set to a maximum security prison. I'm not sure if that is still in the books but I know for sure that criminals are NOT allowed to be in the Army.
Sam C 5/19/2014 11:25:49 AM Report

Always... using a fake gun during the commission of an offence IS a crime -- it is treated exactly like a real gun, because (as I mentioned above) the intent is for the victim to believe it is a real gun, and that they are facing imminent harm.
Thim 5/19/2014 11:34:27 AM Report

Elect our Judges so they are accountable to the public
eadiecougs 5/19/2014 11:45:10 AM Report

elect the judges period and change the laws in this country they are not working.
madmaymax 5/19/2014 12:32:40 PM Report

HI,THERE ARE SO MANY KIND OF ADDICTIONS,GAMBLEING AND DRUGS AND BOOZE JUST TO NMAE A FEW,AS FOR JUDGES THERE SEEMS TO BE FAVORITISM HERE IN THE SAULT,JUST LOOK AT WHAT AN ADDICTION GOT JACOBS,U DON'T HEAR MUCH OF THIS ANYMORE,EQUAL LAWS FOR ALL:):)YOU DO THE CRIME U DO THE TIME,JUST SAYING,BUT TO USE FORCE FOR ROBBERY??TREAT THE PERSON WETHER IT BE REHAB THEN JAIL WHERE THEY CAN KEEP AWAY FROM THIER ADDICTION,JUST SAYIN:):)HAVE A NICE VIC HOLIDAY EVERYONE:0
asp 5/19/2014 12:33:42 PM Report

Wow what an idiot I am sick of this crime in this city.
Tag33&1/3rd 5/19/2014 1:59:59 PM Report

Worst and worst lol
Copy/paste criminal code

Indeed every crime is committed in this city because of drugs (the want/the need for/under the influence of also)

That's for every crime--domestics included as alcohol is usually a factor.
Alcohol is a drug too.

Alcohol/Drug addiction is HUGE in this city! We need $ from government for a residential treatment facility and a NEW Detox!
Boomer4771 5/19/2014 2:21:00 PM Report

You can build all the treatment and detoxs you want and spend millions it still won't help 80 percent of these loosers cause they love the life and money they are living in. They are still chasing that first high which they will never get..
bradwc2002 5/19/2014 2:34:58 PM Report

The system is the problem. Lol I know someone who...

Locked someone in a basement..
Beat them up...
Breaking and entering...
Theft...
Then a year probation. While on probation got...

Theft
Receiving stolen goods
Breach of probation

And walked away with a 60$ fine and find it hilarious lol we need a 3 strike rule like usa
KDawg 5/19/2014 3:39:46 PM Report

Most of the posts to this article are knee-jerk emotional reactions.

To everyone who wants to say that threatening others with a fake gun is the same as threatening others with a real gun, and deserves the same punishment... I say give your head a shake. The level of danger is not even comparable.

The law aims to punish criminals based on what they DID, not what the victim thinks is happening.
KDawg 5/19/2014 3:45:11 PM Report

In my previous post when I said "everyone," I was including SooToday.com, with their simplistic headline to this story.
MYPOINT 5/19/2014 4:24:27 PM Report

K DAWG

Maybe it is you who should be giving your head a shake? When an innocent store clerk is doing his or her job and some idiot comes in there with a 'fake' gun and points it at them and demands cash, do you actually think the clerk is going to take the time to examine whether the gun is real or 'fake' ?

I do not know the actual statues but I do know that there IS a law against using a 'fake' gun to commit a crime. You say the punishment should not be the same. Ok let me ask this simple question.

Lets say there is a clerk with a heart condition working the night shift and some twit comes in with a 'fake' gun to rob the place and the clerk ends up having a heart attack and dies. Now you are trying to say the level of punishment should be different if a person uses a 'fake' gun and I ask you if you would feel the same if the clerk in question was your Grandfather or some other relative? ... Just saying.

As usual, your views may differ :)
KDawg 5/19/2014 4:35:01 PM Report

MYPOINT, if what you describe in your hypothetical situation actually happened, then absolutely the idiot offender should be punished more harshly.

All I'm saying is that fake guns are not real guns and the law should recognize that.
Boomer4771 5/19/2014 4:54:44 PM Report

The law should recognize that traumatizing someone with a real gun or a replica should be treated the same cause the trauma suffered by that person for life is the same....
Pakadeva 5/19/2014 7:01:33 PM Report

THE RELIC, Brad & Boomer...you guys get it I think.
The gunpoint rule, whether the gun is fake or not, it is still robbery at gunpoint!!! We need new judges to clean up this city. We all need to take karate so we can kick someones teeth in when the gun is pointed, fake or not. The person is definitely traumatized for life, shame on you idiots commiting these crimes!
scoobie doo 5/19/2014 9:42:21 PM Report

kdawg - maybe you should knock your head on a wall a few times to see if that might help you Seriously?? it should most definitely be treated the same, whether real or fake! if some criminals had fake ones and some criminals had real ones... pretty soon victims would start taking chances... and pretty soon people would be injured or killed if they guessed wrong. The potential for disastrous results is there. People should always assume that a weapon is real...and some jerk shouldn't get a lesser offense just because he couldn't get his hands on the real thing!!
canadiens_8 5/19/2014 10:53:38 PM Report

AlwaysAWinner 5/19/2014 8:07:57 AM Report

" The accused was found in possession of stolen property and a replica hand gun.

The accused stands charged with robbery with a firearm, wearing a disguise in the commission of an offence, pointing a firearm, concealing a firearm, theft over $5,000, possession over $5,000 and possession under $5,000. "

LOL

fake gun, charged with pointing a gun, having a gun, concealing a gun. but it wasn't a gun. what the hell lol


Doesn't matter if its fake or not....if it is used in a crime, its considered a firearm. A pellet gun is not considered a firearm if it is less then 500feet per second....unless its used in a crime. Fact.


Frio 5/19/2014 11:28:17 PM Report

A fake or replica gun is treated the same as a real gun when used in the commission of a crime. Anybody displaying a fake gun put themselves in a position to get shot dead with the real guns used by police.
dandrew61 5/20/2014 1:03:24 AM Report

Most people posting here seem to agree on one thing, KDawg is the one who should give his head a shake. Laws are not made strictly for punishing one for “what they did” as you say. The impact of the crime and the level of responsibility (or lack thereof) are also included in the sentence. I don’t know how old KDawg is or if he/she is familiar with Charles Manson, but Chuck was convicted of conspiracy to commit murder and through the “joint responsibility rule” guilty of first degree murder and sentenced to life in prison for the Tate-Labianca murders and he wasn’t even present when the murders occurred. Laws and punishment are two separate things. Laws tell us what we can and can’t do. Punishment doesn’t come into effect until after it’s been proven you broke a law. Laws are equal for everyone but punishment is up to the judge and can vary from one judge to the next and most certainly, the effect your crime had on the victim can determine your punishment. That’s why the victim’s impact statement was developed and is now common in the courts. Real gun or not it’s how the victim felt at the time that will have an impact on sentencing.
TFinn 5/20/2014 7:38:45 AM Report

CBSA 5/19/2014 8:29:59 AM

he is ...!!
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