MYPOINT 5/12/2014 10:12:11 AM Report
is as follows ...
THIS IS AN OPEN LETTER TO DAVID ORAZIETTI
DAVID, would YOU consider putting forth a motion to have a 'recall' method put in place for the election AFTER this one because it is obviously too late to have one for this election coming up? I ask this because I firmly believe that the voters are getting sick and tired of all of the broken promises by ALL parties and it is time to give the voters in this Province ( and Country ) the right to fire any person who breaks their promises (contract) with us, the voters.
I know you read the SooToday to get an idea of what is happening in this area so please do not insult my intelligence by stating that you do not read these posts.
As always, the views of others may differ but are always welcomed :)
scottstewy123 5/12/2014 10:14:29 AM Report
David O this election should have been called a year ago. I am sorry but your Liberal Government is plagued with to many scandals.
The EHealth scandal
- The slush fund scandal
- The lottery corp scandals
- The CancerCare scandal
- The MPAC scandal
- The Children’s Aid scandal
- The hospital consultants scandal
- The Niagara Parks Commission scandal
- The tire tax
- The electronics tax
- The cheap beer surtax
- The hidden hydro tax
- The planned hidden gas tax
- The ‘smart meter’ tax
- The ‘Eco’ tax
- The auto pension bailouts
- The Nortel pension bailouts
- No reduction in HST despite $4.3 Billion from the feds
- The forcing of WSIB on all construction owners
- The staggering increase in the Sunshine List
- The failure at Caledonia
- Selling out to the teachers & civic unions
- The blatant Nanticoke lie
- The squandering of record revenues
- The nanny-state banning of nearly everything
- The public funding of sex-changes while de-listing eye exams phsyio & chiro
- The billion-dollar-per-year burden of Family Day
- The billion-dollar flip-flop on The Oakville gas plant
- Saddling rate-payers with billions in subsidies to Samsung & Ikea
- The Ombudsman/Auditor-General condemnations
- Turning Hydro into a luxury for the rich
- The by-election briberies
- The refusal to correct foreign ownership of our beer market
- The outrageous property assessments
- The stifling of private health services
- The illegal and unconstitutional secret G20 law
- The acceptance of garbage-striker extortion
- The harassing labour inspectors
- Dumping the blue box program onto small businesses
- Imposing blood alcohol rules that punish the innocent
- The $58 Million ‘severance’ to tax-collectors who didn’t miss a single day’s work
- Socialized daycare
- Canceling the ‘mandatory’ LHIN review & giving their CEO’s $15000 raises
- The failure at Caledonia
- Sneaking tax-dollars into Liberals campaign team coffers
- Raising tuition & auto insurance to highest in Canada
- Sinking Ontario into Have-Not status.
Montec 125 5/12/2014 10:15:11 AM Report
Insurance rates decreased an average of 6%. Really? What planet?
scottstewy123 5/12/2014 10:18:56 AM Report
And David O I have not seen a reduction on my insurance rates.
dogi 5/12/2014 10:18:57 AM Report
Hey Flash Bulb, you just don't get it. Your party cased this election. Take a long look in the mirror and you will see what the Liberals have done to this province.....
OrlandoFlorida 5/12/2014 10:19:40 AM Report
So the Liberals blame someone else for the election, ignoring the fact that the people of Ontario have been calling for an election because of the Liberal scandals and blatant waste of taxpayers money. Very sad. David I hope you are simply playing politics and don't actually believe what you are saying, if not you are complete FOOL.
scottstewy123 5/12/2014 10:20:06 AM Report
I think the Liberals will be a very hard sell this election. I know they are scared.
macnewt 5/12/2014 10:20:22 AM Report
Maybe we should remind David who's government it was that canceled a couple of projects that cost taxpayers a few dollars. I'm sure the cost of this election doesn't even come close to how much money David's party flushed down the toilet. Bloody politicians won't tell you the truth just so they make themselves look good!
scottstewy123 5/12/2014 10:23:11 AM Report
And I forgot the wiping clean of all the Hard drives in the government concerning the Gas plant scandal. I nearly forgot about that one.
mpa 5/12/2014 10:27:38 AM Report
I think Dave is doing a great job and the budget was a good one.
Listen people, we have a cabinet minister, if you had brains you would keep him
Mr. Poster 5/12/2014 10:27:42 AM Report
This blurb by David O is simply the Liberal propaganda machine at work. Does anyone truly believe David O feels the way his "letter: comes across? I am sure he has been instructed by "head office" to put this out. If he truly feels that way then he is short a couple of steps on the staircase.
scottstewy123 5/12/2014 10:30:17 AM Report
So David as you can see we here in Sault Ste Marie are not buying what you are saying to us. How about answering us honestly , the taxpayer on all the scandals that your party is connected to. You and your party owns these scandals. You can not blame Mike Harris or Bob Rae. Why can you not make a press release about all the scandals that I have listed. And then give us an explanation of why should we vote Liberal ? Your clueless attitude frustrates me.
............... 5/12/2014 10:42:19 AM Report
David & Liberals Make It Very Difficult To Run A Business In This Province. Especially Northern Ontario. They Where One Of The Factors That Put Me Out Of Business By Taking The Moose Tags From My Business And Hiking The Minimum Wage Which Causes Direct Inflation And Makes Impossible To Keep At Market Bearing Price. PLEASE ANYBODY BUT DAVID AND THE LIBERALS!!!
Sam C 5/12/2014 10:43:22 AM Report
Whether or not you like Orazietti, Wynne, or the Liberals; whether or not you think there should have been an election called we'll before this, there is no denying what David O and the Liberals are saying: Horwath forced this election.
Not so much because she and the NDP would not support the budget, but because they -- and frankly, Hudak and the Conservative -- displayed no interest in, nor made any attempt to work WITH the Liberals to resolve any of their outstanding issues.
right wing 5/12/2014 10:43:40 AM Report
David O did a lot for the Sault, that cannot be denied.
The Liberals should have been tossed that last time but Ontario decided to give McGuinty another round....that one has always puzzled me.
Folks talk about Hudak not having "likeability"....McGuinty was the smuggest, most arrogant politician I ever knew.
I shall as I always do, vote conservative.
We will see if Ontario has learned anything about the Liberals...if not then this province deserves everything it gets and does not get...I'm sure you can figure out what that means.
We can all enjoy the 45% hydro increases over the next five years.
...and scottstewy, good work on the list of Liberal screw ups you provided.
stakeholder 5/12/2014 10:47:24 AM Report
I really need to see a list of what David O has done for the Sault!
agent_zoey 5/12/2014 10:47:48 AM Report
Also, what about all of the OLG Lottery jobs that will be gone after modernization is complete. Selling off Ontarios "pot of gold" to help help the private sector. Talk about Corporate Welfare.
Why does'nt David Orazetti talk about all of the jobs that he lost at ST Marys Paper. He handed out 40 million dollars to that place and all they did was pocket the money. 450 jobs gone. Great over sight there.
right wing 5/12/2014 10:48:33 AM Report
...and why should they have.
The Liberals simply bought the NDP at our expense when they needed them and the Liberals never gave a rats what the Conservatives suggested.
ROLAND_ROLLY 5/12/2014 10:54:40 AM Report
scottstewy . excellent post.
These are the only issues that WE know about, I'm sure there are numerous others.
Time to give David O the boot ! Along with his party.
Mr. Poster 5/12/2014 10:58:41 AM Report
Andrea is to blame for the upcoming election. David O and his party are to blame for the need for an election. Since David decided to go along with his party he must get the boot along with the rest of them.
pogi 5/12/2014 11:04:52 AM Report
Keep up the good work David👍 You are right on when you say the NDP's caused another expensive election! Whoever caused this (Andrea) will most certainly NOT get my vote!
habsfan 5/12/2014 11:06:43 AM Report
Hey Dave, I just got my insurance renewal for my car and it increased 17%. No accidents or fines in over 20 years and over 50. Explain it you lying piece of garbage. Your gone. Accept it.
B Boy 5/12/2014 11:09:29 AM Report
@habsfan - when I read your comment my reaction was "can't we keep things civil?" until the realization hit me that was the Liberals have done to us & Ontario has been anything but civil.
Oldie Goldie 5/12/2014 11:18:34 AM Report
Sam C.--What planet do you live on ?
Blaming the New Democrats for causing an Election is so far wrong anyone who thinks that should come back to Planet Earth.
The New Democrats propped up your Liberals thru many scandals it is about time they pulled their support.
Scottstewy got it right---read his list of Liberal Debaucles---each one costing
Ontario Tax Payers for a total of Billions---Not Millions.
Truck 5/12/2014 11:25:39 AM Report
Modernization as it stands would be a mere drop in a bucket compared to what the PC's would due to OLG and the public sector as a whole if they gain power. I'm no fan of Mcquinty nor what he did to the province. But Wynne isn't him. The conservatives are far too extreme...take a look at the msg boards in here on a day to day and you will quickly find that out.
pklz 5/12/2014 11:30:24 AM Report
Really? Buh bye Mr. O.
Sammy1099 5/12/2014 11:39:14 AM Report
If you want proof the liberals have been buying votes by increasing the size of the civil service and caving to union demands read no further then the comments here. Unless you are a complete imbecile you must realize that model is unsustainable. You can’t have a Country or Province for that matter in which the majority of the population works for the government. Socialism was proven to be a failure look at the “FORMER” Soviet Union.
Eventually the house of cards will collapse (it’s already having stability issues) and someone is going to be left holding the bill. I can assure you it won’t be your MPP he/she will laugh all the way to the bank with he/she lucrative pension after a couple of years work. If you have kids they will be the ones paying for this crap as well as their kids. That’s assuming they don’t flee the province and force you all to work into your 80’s to pay for your own stupidity.
stakeholder 5/12/2014 11:44:22 AM Report
$90 million for an election and $1 billion for not a gas plant?!! value in my book!!!!
OrlandoFlorida 5/12/2014 11:45:54 AM Report
Well the Liberals plan for the OLG is to sell it off, except for a handful of highly paid executives. For Sault Ste Marie that means 500 jobs lost to Toronto, or perhaps the USA or England depending on which company gets the money making golden goose. The Liberal plan for the OLG is already happening, and David O has been a willing participant in the selloff of OLG despite what he says. Only an idiot would sell off a 2 Billion net profit business for a promise, a mere promise of increased sales. Several US states did just that and guess what, those states now earn far less than they did when it was run and owned by the government. Google Illinois State Lottery.
SEO 5/12/2014 12:11:29 PM Report
David Orazetti has represented the Sault well and the NDP when they were given a mandate to rule the last time really screwed this province up Remember Ray Days the NDP way of taking back money they promised in the election. Andrea Horwath did not even try to work with the liberals on the last budget..shame on her for forcing an expensive election and the Conservative leader is a close friend of Rob Ford...Here is his plan..Wow The plan will, according to Hudak, affect 100,000 civil servants except police, nurses and doctors doing "vital work."
And all programs and services will be "on the table" including education.
"It will mean fewer teachers and their assistants," said Hudak who some months ago made it clear that as premier, there would be "pink slips" for 10,000 education assistants.Wow we really have a choice..The only choice is to give Kathleen Wynne a chance she has been doing a good job of cleaning up after Dalton McGuinty. His mistakes were not her fault and the province has been moving forward under her.
Gurpy 5/12/2014 12:28:18 PM Report
OH??? AND WHO IS TO BLAME FOR OUR OUTRAGEOUS HYDRO RATES ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER DISASTERS CAUSED BY THE LIBERALS? THIS PROVINCE WILL NEVER BE THE SAME!
Gurpy 5/12/2014 12:30:15 PM Report
We do have brains, that`s why he`ll be leaving!
OrlandoFlorida 5/12/2014 12:32:48 PM Report
If you want to read an informed analysis of the Wynne budget refer to the recent article in the National Post, seems Wynne's recent budget far exceeds that of any previous government in terms of spending vs Onatrio's GDP.
frnlak 5/12/2014 12:40:57 PM Report
You forgot all day kindergarten, all day junior kindergarten and all day junior, junior kindergarten. All day government payed babysitting service.
MYPOINT 5/12/2014 12:43:43 PM Report
is as follows ...
@scottstewy your list really showed what the McGINTY government did to this Province.
That being said, WYNNE is NOT Mcginty and should be given a chance to show this. HUDAK is bound and bent that he will gut union contracts ( which will of course, cause more chaos in this Province ). HUDAK says that he will NOT touch certain sectors but that is 100% BS for damned sure!!
My spouse is a nurse at the SAH and her wages were frozen for the past 3 years. She paid her part in helping to reduce the deficit in this Province. When her contract comes up for renewal in October of this year, many of these hard working nurses have been told to ' not expect any raises for the next three years' or words to that effect. This means that my spouse will now have to go a total of six years without a raise. In addition to all of that frustration, then HUDAK will try to gut the contract that is gotten and she will end up losing some of the benefits as well. This is totally ridiculous no matter how you look at it. HUDAK MUST NOT BE ELECTED or this Province will see all of the same fighting it witnessed when Mike Harris tried the same tactics years ago.
As for blaming the NDP, at least they had the decency to take a look at the budget ( which by the way was NOT a bad budget considering everything that has been going on lately ) but of course HUDAK would not even do that. He is a power hungry little tyrant who is on some sort of power trip and he can not wait to bring chaos to this Province!
There are some, including myself, who do not like what has happened during the McGinty years. It must be said however that blaming WYNNE for McGINTY's mistakes is like blaming the mailman because the plumber did not fix your plumbing correctly.
If this post offends anyone, I apologize but like everyone else on here, I am entitled to my opinion.
As usual, your views may differ :)
Oldie Goldie 5/12/2014 12:55:01 PM Report
SEO---How can you draw a parallel with Howarth and Rae who ran Ontario in 1990---24 years ago. At least Rae never ran up the deficit that McGuinty did---not even close. Many Posters are equating the Liberal Leader with McGuinty and the P.C. Leader with Mike Harris and the New Democrat Leader with Bob Rae----McGuinty--Harris and Rae are history---There are 3 new Leaders now.
Give them all a fair shot !
ThinkAgain 5/12/2014 1:13:44 PM Report
Surprised the Liberals can still call them selves a party with all the corrupt scandals - they should all go to jail for Embezzlement and Fraud.
Now they're just going to start pointing finger with more lies.
We need a NEW party for this province/country.
Mr. Poster 5/12/2014 1:56:36 PM Report
I still think a Liberal minority government is in the offing. Just look at all the negative comments on these boards re the Cons and the NDP...and of course the Liberals...but at the end of the day I see that minority Liberal government.
Gurpy 5/12/2014 2:59:56 PM Report
Anyone who is foolish enough to vote Liberal after all the damage they`ve done needs help asap!
icemantbi 5/12/2014 3:08:30 PM Report
I can not fathom how ANYONE can vote for the Liberals in this election. They have COMPLETELY destroyed this province's economy. We went from being a "Have" Province to a "Have Not" province since they have been in power.
You think the NDP will be any different? Not a chance! They will keep on racking up the deficit just like the Liberals!
Only one option. And that is PC in this election. They are the only ones that have a plan to turn this province around, reduce the deficit, and bring back a healthy economy.
ranny 5/12/2014 3:46:41 PM Report
Having an election is cheaper to vote out the Liberal, is still cheaper than the money your party lost and swindle. Just be lucky we're not in the USA or another country, or every one of the Liberal party member would've been in jail by now.
ranny 5/12/2014 3:49:56 PM Report
@scottstewy123 exactly well said. He was elected to present the Sault but instead voted everything that was involved with the Liberal Scandal. If he knew everything was bad, why didn't he voted no? He choose to vote what was best for McGuinty and not the people. Who paid for this? The working class and tax payer.
Prrrrrrr 5/12/2014 3:51:30 PM Report
Gurpy, I agree, they are still attacking the opposition! I want to vote NDP because they finally pulled the plug on all the lies and corruption from the Liberals!!! I am sick of the blame game, finger pointing and lack of responsible leadership...what really upsets me, is comments like this article...still blaming the other parties.
rockbanger 5/12/2014 4:45:41 PM Report
Sault Ste. Marie Voters PLEASE look at the people we have to vote for in our riding.
A retired firefighter. Well intentioned but lacking experience.
A whiny teacher who jumped on a fascist wagon and showed us how to spend money with no restraint.
A seasoned CEO of a University with a Phd. and vast experience dealing with government funding.
Celia Ross is our BEST contender with impeccable credentials.
Which candidate has the experience, education and personality to sit in the legislature on a professional level. Treat all people, companies and groups equally and without arrogance? Build and spend for true long term growth.
Bob Rae and his Ray-Days cannot be used against the NDP in this day and age. Not if your a thinking person.
Just because David 'O' spent money like it was his god given right, does not make him our best candidate. Recall his "assistance" to St. Mary's Paper..!! This was a blatant example of modern fascism; using government funds to make a few business people garner more wealth. This escapade cost many hard working people their pension that was lost in the shuffle. Albeit these poor pensioners did get pennies on the dollar.
Sault Ste. Marie must not continue this road of government monies being dished out to a select few!
Do not put Davy 'O' back in because he has thrown monies around. Fiscal responsibility is needed and expected. Understand that the current debt from this Liberal government is massive and will require shrewd management to pay it all back.
WAKE UP FOLKS... CLOSE THE BACK DOOR.!!
Don't let the rats back in the house.
If you do it is your fault and it will cost you.
shorty38 5/12/2014 5:18:24 PM Report
How could David O have the courage to write this news release, oh yes, he agreed with his party to bring dollars to his riding, tax dollars our province does not have. As for Ms. Wynne, some of you are right, she is not Dalton, she is even worse for our province.
Not yet sure how I will vote but I know who I will not support.
I'm In 5/12/2014 5:36:01 PM Report
@icemantbi what about the deficit the PC's racked up before they were booted out in 2005, they gave to their rich friends on the backs of the working middle/poor class, so vote PC there will be 100 thousand public sector jobs gone, who knows how many private sector jobs will be gone because HUDAK will give big business the right to strip private sector unions of there right to negotiate fair contracts, but they can strike until a HUDAK Government legislates them back to work. Get your heads out of the sand the gap between the rich and poor is widening everyday and with lower paying jobs the economy will go for an s--t because people can't spend without income and will have no power to access credit with no ability to pay back. You will also pay through the nose for your health care/auto insurance and anything else that you need on a daily basis. So go ahead vote PC I hope it bites you were the sun don't shine.
S.Claus 5/12/2014 6:10:08 PM Report
Remember it's OUR MONEY involved in all these promises. With 11 years in a ROW of deficits. I know who I am not voting for. The best predictor to future behaviour is past performance. Should have pulled the plug long ago and helped save Billions of dollars.
scottstewy123 5/12/2014 6:30:27 PM Report
MYPOINT she was part of the government when McGuilty was in . She knew and approved of what he did. So do not try and separate her from the mess. A liberal is a liberal. VOTE THEM ALL OUT.
smcleod 5/12/2014 7:23:34 PM Report
Remember when you point your finger at someone, 3 fingers point back at you
Alfie 5/12/2014 7:46:33 PM Report
Wouldn't surprise me if Dave wins here again. But I doubt the liberals will take the province. People can't be that dumb, can they?
rockbanger 5/12/2014 8:12:19 PM Report
The Soo can be very dumb or act that way...!
Recall on the federal level years ago we had Kelleher a Cabinet Minister in a 'majority' conservative government that were going in again as a majority for sure, so the knuckle headed Soo decided to show lying Brian how stunned we can be; and we voted in the NDP (with UNION pushing) and our riding sat out in the cold and watched the country prosper...
This time the provincial red machine is not a majority government and will definitely not win a majority....A minority is not looking good either.
Vote for the best candidate.
harshbee 5/13/2014 7:20:51 AM Report
guess we're just puppets in their hands, we need strong representation of our right
MYPOINT 5/13/2014 10:03:58 AM Report
is as follows ...
Regardless of who wins in the upcoming election in this Province, ALL of us LOSE!
The best solution ( although it is too late for this election ) is some sort of recall method put into place so we can FIRE those who steal our vote. Have you ever wondered why NONE of the political parties have ever considered such a thing as a recall method in the past? I believe it is because they would then have to do something totally unique during all of these election campaigns and that would be to ' tell the truth when they are making all of these false promises '.
If these political wannabees can make false claims and have us sign a contract with them ( meaning vote for them ), why should we not have the right to FIRE them if they break that contract? It seems to me that this would be 'breach of contract' if they failed to keep ALL of the promises made during an election campaign and it would curb some of these liars from making these false promises. I further believe that this would be a win-win situation for all of the voters in this Province regardless of who we vote for in these elections.
As usual, your views may differ :)
Frio 5/13/2014 10:05:08 AM Report
Hudak is going to create a million jobs?? Now that has to be the biggest, pie in the sky promise with absolutely no facts to back it up ever thrown out for the voters to believe. How many new fast food joints and Walmarts is that?
derand2 5/13/2014 4:31:15 PM Report
The only voters who can justify supporting Orazietti and his corrupt and grossly incompetent liberal colleagues are those that profited from the graft, reckless spending and broken tax promises. I am sure most teachers, nurses, sunshine list employees, OPG executives, LHIN CEOs, CCAC CEOs, OPP officers and brass along with several thousand Liberal insiders plus wind farm and solar power developers just love the Lieberals. The problem from them is "the party is over". Ontario is broke and their arch enemy Harper isn't going to bail them out because western Canada will not tolerate it. The western provinces have not been buying votes with taxpayer money and they aren't paying public sector works exorbitant salaries and benefits.
johnah 5/14/2014 9:08:34 AM Report
Its time to get the PIGS away from the Trough its to much scandal for me to comprehend
LSARC 5/14/2014 4:43:38 PM Report
Interesting speech which indicates that Hudak has listened to and has a practical plan to deal with the hydro issues which now plague Ontario families, businesses and even our landscapes.
Tim Hudak releases numbers behind million jobs plan