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Gifford-Jones: Did Jim Flaherty Have To Die?

Wednesday, April 23, 2014   by: Dr. W. Gifford-Jones

Could the life of one of Canada’s great Ministers of Finance have been saved by medical treatment?

You did not have to be a doctor to see the change in his facial appearance and realize he was not well.

But when he apparently died from a massive heart attack, was he denied a natural remedy that might have saved his life?

And could his son, who suffered from a disability, have been saved by the same treatment?

Jim Flaherty developed a rare skin disease called Bullous pemphigoid.

It’s an autoimmune disease in which a person’s immune system produces antibodies that attack the body.

In effect, it’s as if soldiers had suddenly decided to turn their guns on each other, rather than on the enemy.

During these attacks the skin develops painful blisters that may last for months.

The diagnosis is made by taking biopsies of the skin.

Treatment consists of using steroids, such as prednisone, to help heal the lesions.

But what is it that actually killed Jim Flaherty?

J.B. Moliere, the French playwright, once remarked that “nearly all men die of their medicines, not of their diseases.”

It was an astute observation by a playwright.

And there is reason to suggest that this is what happened to Jim Flaherty.

The majority of specialists agree that patients suffering from Bullous pemphigoid die with it, rather than from it.

I’ve often stressed that the problem with prescription drugs is that you rarely get something for nothing.

The outward sign of Bullous pemphigoid, is the bloated, rounded face due to the collection of fluid.

Prednisone also triggers things you cannot see.

For instance, bone loss and an increased risk of cataracts.

But much more lethal are factors that increase the risk of heart attack, such as elevated blood level of LDL (low density lipoprotein) the bad cholesterol, hypertension and increased blood sugar, sometimes resulting in Type 2 diabetes.

Diabetes is notorious for causing atherosclerosis, the rust that gradually decreases blood flow to coronary arteries, which could have been responsible for Jim Flaherty’s massive coronary.

So what could have saved Flaherty’s life, particularly when side-effects of his medication are known to increase the risk of coronary attack?

Dr. Sydney Bush, an English researcher, has photographic evidence that high doses of vitamin C and lysine can not only prevent, but can also reverse atherosclerosis (narrowing of coronary arteries).

You don’t have to be a doctor to see these dramatic changes on my web site, www.docgiff.com.

You can also read more about advantages of vitamin C and lysine in my book, “What I learned as a Medical Journalist.”

But I’d bet my last dollar that Flaherty did not receive this natural, safe and effective remedy.

In my 64 years of practicing medicine I cannot think of one discovery that is more important than the fact that atherosclerosis can now be prevented and reversed, important because this problem causes a ton of cardiovascular problems.

Yet cardiologists continue to believe that cholesterol-lowering drugs are the be-all-and-end-all to prevent heart attack.

This is the world’s greatest example of how hundreds of millions of pharmaceutical dollars can brainwash the minds of highly educated specialists.

And about Jim Flaherty’s son, one he loved so dearly?

It’s reported that his young son was stung by an insect and developed encephalitis, resulting in lifelong disability.

Could this also have been prevented?

Decades before Flaherty’s son developed encephalitis, Dr. Robert Klenner, a North Carolina family doctor, showed that high doses of intravenous vitamin C could cure patients stricken with polio, encephalitis, meningitis, measles and could even neutralize the venom of rattlesnakes.

This information is available for anyone to read on the internet.

But 99.9 percent of physicians remain unaware of this research.

History shows that the closed minds of physicians have killed millions by resisting new therapies.

It’s still happening today as doctors refuse to accept that high doses of vitamin C and lysine can reduce the epidemic of heart attack.

A combination powder of vitamin C and lysine is available in most Health Food Stores in Canada.

See the web site www.docgiff.com For comments info@docgiff.com

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Read Dr. W. Gifford-Jones' column each week on our Editorials/Columns section.
 
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superior87 4/23/2014 4:45:55 PM Report

Ummmmm.....what? This is...how do I put it...distasteful.
IgnorantNortherner 4/23/2014 4:57:00 PM Report

superior, are you afraid of the light? Too soon to speculate as to whether or not the man's live may have been saved?

We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
--Plato

This doc speaks the truth from what I've read. Natural cures don't pay BigPharma's bills, though, so docs don't learn about them in med school. You get one course on nutrition and zero on natural cures which is too bad as it costs millions of lives.
mallet 4/23/2014 4:58:57 PM Report


I am not sure that vast doses of any thing is good for you. I can remember during the last war that people were encouraged to eat carrots because it enhanced the eyesight (cats eyes Cunningham) springs to mind. I have always believed in moderation in everything, as a kid I had a large boil in my elbow and was given large doses of penicilin which ended up giving me hives and am alergic to that drug today. While I do not disagree with natural drugs I would not be without the manufactured ones either...
right wing 4/23/2014 5:02:03 PM Report

So cardiologists don't buy into this seemingly placebo treatment and 99.9% of Dr's just don't know about the research along with "doctors refuse to accept that high doses of vitamin C and lysine can reduce the epidemic of heart attack."
Wow.

What does the duck say...?
right wing 4/23/2014 5:05:09 PM Report

Oh surprise...IrgnorantNortherner is at the ready with a "big pharma" conspiracy.
The problem is it's the vast majority of Dr's that don't buy into this.
Trvlr 4/23/2014 5:12:14 PM Report

Stats are scary on how many people die from prescribed drug side-effects every year...that to me is "distasteful". It takes guts to call out big pharma and the medical establishment. I agree with the message but personally would have not used Mr Flaherty as the example. Thanks for the article.
right wing 4/23/2014 5:14:20 PM Report

mallet

Many Dr's today recognize natural medicine and the role it can play.
The basis of some pharmaceuticals are from natural sources.
Replacing pharmaceuticals with natural medicines as a proper treatment in most cases in dangerous.
IgnorantNortherner 4/23/2014 5:47:45 PM Report

oh rightwing; you so funny!

Do you actual deny that pharmaceutical corporations run healthcare in this country? This is fact to most people and not a conspiracy.

Why do you call it a placebo? lol do you know what a placebo is?

So it is safe to derive drugs from a natural source but to use simply a natural source alone is dangerous? I'm having a really hard time following your (lack of) logic.

Man has cured many diseases over thousands of years before BigPharma came around. To deny all the evidence around you and appeal to authority (one 'trained' by BigPharma with little to no education in natural cures despite what you suggest) is what's truly dangerous.
Wisenheimer 4/23/2014 6:11:40 PM Report

At age 90 and with many years of medical experience, Dr. Gifford-Jones is not real concerned with offending people.
jojoe71 4/23/2014 6:48:54 PM Report

How can one man be right and almost 100% 0f doctors be wrong. Sounds like a pitch you might hear on late night shopping channel. What he fails to mention is one side effect of his product is diarrhea. Maybe if one were to sit on the toilet before one takes the dosage.
Pink Peony 4/23/2014 6:53:41 PM Report

Like
Lisa220 4/23/2014 7:20:35 PM Report

Why does study after study then suggest that vitamins in large doses are useless and some are even harmful? Are the big pharma companies paying for these studies?
wife 4/23/2014 7:51:33 PM Report

I Know of a young Man who died because he used health food junk instead of prescription medications.
You are like a snake oil salesman of olden days. Your shops should be regulated by the Dept of Health I took pills that were supposed to clear my blood of cholesterol. The only thing it cleared was my Bank Account.
IgnorantNortherner 4/23/2014 8:01:38 PM Report

That's horrible, wife. Any details of what he took and for what so we can spare our loved ones and ourselves, wife? I will tell you this much, Vitamin C has never killed anyone so you might not want to throw it into the 'health food junk' category as its found in many foods whereas none of your prescriptions are.

@joejoe it's not that they're all wrong, per se, but rather ignore-ant. They've never tried it or read the studies but they don't mind dismissing it, nonetheless because it's not recognized (by their daddy, BigPharma) as an official treatment for anything but scurvy. PS I'll take risk of diarrhea over risk of immediate death any day.

I've got more than one doc in the family and they regularly tell their cancer patients to eat whatever they want believing it doesn't make a difference when we have piles and piles of evidence suggesting otherwise.

They're highly indoctrinated, that's all. Unfortunately it won't change anytime soon the way things are set up (to fail).

@Lisa, are you sure you're not thinking about herbal supplements or multivitamins? Ascorbic acid shouldn't fall into either of those categories and is about as easy to overdose on as water.
wife 4/23/2014 8:16:26 PM Report

ignorant N
What pharmaceutical university did you graduate from? Or do you have a degree as a Dietitian or nutritionist?
I posted only what I know to be true.
Hunter101 4/23/2014 8:19:54 PM Report

IgnorantNortherner,

That couldn't be further from the truth.

Get diagnosed with cancer and see how far natural treatment gets you. You'll be dead within a fraction of the time which REAL medicine would provide you.

Stop spewing lies that have no factual basis.

Natural medicine is a hoax and a money grab. Very little has even been shown to give positive results.

Big Pharma are just that because what they sell works. People pay money for things that treat diseases effectively.

What's your degree in? Home Economics?
Hunter101 4/23/2014 8:31:33 PM Report

"Do you actual deny that pharmaceutical corporations run healthcare in this country? This is fact to most people and not a conspiracy. "

In the sense that what they do is develop better drugs instead of using age-old "remedies" that don't work, yes they control what kind of drugs are developed.

"Why do you call it a placebo? lol do you know what a placebo is?"

Placebo effect is the perceived effectiveness of a medication by a patient regardless of whether or not the medication is working/how well it is working/actual effect. A placebo is a fake tablet and to think rightwing wouldn't know that means you aren't too bright.

"So it is safe to derive drugs from a natural source but to use simply a natural source alone is dangerous? I'm having a really hard time following your (lack of) logic."

Sure! look at lovastatin! It's a naturally occurring drug which lowers cholesterol. It was just discovered by drug companies and marketed. But to simply say that just because something is natural means it is safe is ignorant. Digitalis (foxglove) is poisonous by itself because it contains digoxin and digitoxin, but the digoxin can be synthetically made on it's own to treat patients with a heart failure.

Anything natural can be made 10x better by altering/modifying it synthetically. If we didn't make synthetic drugs, millions of people would be dead today because half of our antibiotics would not exist.

"Man has cured many diseases over thousands of years before BigPharma came around. To deny all the evidence around you and appeal to authority (one 'trained' by BigPharma with little to no education in natural cures despite what you suggest) is what's truly dangerous."

Which diseases? Cite some sources! We didn't even know half of the diseases before the 1980's and are still discovering new info on them.

IgnorantNortherner, you are exactly what your name says. You should add gullible in there too.
IgnorantNortherner 4/23/2014 8:38:55 PM Report

lol that's funny hunter. They offer that which is most profitable, and nothing more and why would they? If you think ionizing radiation (radio, which causes cancer) and toxins that kill all cells equally effectively (chemo) are the best cancer treatments available then you're ignore-ant, too. People naturally appeal to authority. It's how we were parented and indoctrinated in school. They want someone to tell them what to do, what to eat, what to watch, what to listen to, what to buy, etc. Most people, anyway.

I've cured more than half a dozen friends and family diagnosed with cancer with nothing but so called "natural" treatments. It's actually a really, REALLY bad joke how easy it is to get rid of. No surgery, chemo or radio and in three of the cases they were told they'd be lucky to live six months and they're all still kickin'.

You really think that for literally, tens, if not hundreds of thousands of years man has been on this planet he just died every time he got sick until we started manufacturing pharmaceuticals?!? Maybe there is something about our modern lifestyle that allows cancer to grow when historically, no one ever died from it?

wife you didn't really tell us anything other than someone you know was sick and died. Nothing to substantiate your claim and nothing to spare us the same fate. People die from medications every day, too. I really want to tell you what I do but feel it would be bad for business the way this thread is going...
theprotector 4/23/2014 8:45:30 PM Report

yawn
mallet 4/23/2014 8:46:18 PM Report


I. N.

I do not call anyone Ignorant unless I know for sure. Before all the modern drugs became available the life expectency was a lot lower than it is today, and I would challenge you to dispute that fact, and they only had "natural" medicines at that time. So if modern medicines are so bad why were the life expectencys lower when all they had was the "natural" stuff?? That a lot of modern medicines are made from natural plants I will not dispute,but I will tell your one thing, if i got bite by a rattlesnake I would much prefer to have a modern antivenom than a large dose of vitimin C....
IgnorantNortherner 4/23/2014 8:46:42 PM Report


ohhh hunter you just keep getting better!

You speak as if BigPharma is curing the world of all our ills -- that everything they touch turns to gold. All these cures they synthesized and created and all these lives they're saving.

PEOPLE HAVE NEVER, IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD, BEEN MORE SICK.

I mean, maybe if you want to talk about the black plague or something but I don't think that's fair. I haven't seen BigPharma cure that.

These 'age old' remedies you speak of...you think they would persist generation after generation because they DIDN'T work? That actually makes sense to you? I mean on one hand you're accepting that natural remedies exist because we clean them up and filter out what we want from them and then in the next breath say, no, they don't work.

I said placebo, not placebo effect. VitaminC is not the same as a sugar pill lol try and keep up.
Hunter101 4/23/2014 8:47:27 PM Report

Oh jeez! I thought I had heard it all until now!

The cure for cancer has been around for years people! It's just because drug companies don't want us to have them!

Go crawl back into your cave you dolt!
Hunter101 4/23/2014 8:48:26 PM Report

The age-old remedies persist because of age-old hear-say and stupidity, much like what you are contributing to the discussion.
Hunter101 4/23/2014 8:50:30 PM Report

Yeah you're right, they haven't been more sick. Instead they just died. Average life expectancy is at an all time high and it's because we just discovered natural medicine?

Ouff, you really are dumb.
Hunter101 4/23/2014 8:52:55 PM Report

Naturopathic medicine is a complete hoax and I will dismiss it every chance I get. It's a joke to think a Type I diabetic can live without synthetic insulin.

Yet, I've seen patients get brainwashed into thinking the "witch doctor" can help them.

Those patients have died.
theprotector 4/23/2014 8:52:56 PM Report

who is this loser coot anyway? I dont recall, other than the report of a major heart attack any release of an autopsy. This might not have been the cause of the heart attack - lets face it the guy BMI was incredibile for a umpa lumpa
Hunter101 4/23/2014 8:54:38 PM Report

thehardhat, what do you weigh? 250? 300?
Hunter101 4/23/2014 8:59:52 PM Report

Radiation? Yeah it can cause other types of cancer as an adverse effect.

When you're dealing with someone who only has less than a year to live, they probably won't be worrying about it too much.

Not only that, when you have a person who will die unless they get radiation, they will take it willfully without worrying. If someone says take this treatment and live another 20 years, or take no treatment and die in a year then what do you think they will do?

And please, don't tell me you have cured cancer patients. That's ridiculous.
IgnorantNortherner 4/23/2014 9:00:22 PM Report

mallet I am in no way anti medicine...I am simply against always ignoring POSSIBLE natural remedies in favour of the du jour drug of a for profit company.

Every generation learns more about the world than the one that came before them. It is expected that the average life with increase as a result.

It's not really fair to attribute all of the life expectancy increase to the pharmaceutical companies, is it? Two hundred years ago we didn't know what nutrients and vitamins were necessary to survive. We didn't even know what a germ was (so how could we sterilize anything?).

Hunter, thousands of diabetics have reversed their so called irreversible condition. They didn't need insulin as they "magically" started making it again.

I really don't care what you believe, but I find it hilariously pathetic that you'll attribute all of human history's treatments and cures to 'witch doctors'. They must have all just imagined themselves getting better lol.

How do you rationalize the highest ever rates of chronic diseases killing people present in today's society with pharmaceutical companies curing every disease they come across?
Hunter101 4/23/2014 9:04:05 PM Report

IgnorantIdiot,

No Type I diabetic has ever been cured.

Unless your natural medicine includes a pancreas transplant, but I think that you may be a bit under qualified to even change the oil in a deep-fryer.
IgnorantNortherner 4/23/2014 9:05:07 PM Report

Like I said, Hunter, I don't care what you believe. You seem far too tiny of a mind to consider anything outside your current worldview anyway, but...

....after the doc told them YOU WILL DIE. YOU HAVE LESS THAN SIX MONTHS, we started treatment and and magically all got better. Maybe it wasn't anything I was doing...maybe it was Jesus. I guess I really don't know for sure. All I know is, it's worked seven times now, for various kinds of cancer in various stages and it apparently worked for thousands of other people (or I never would have come across the witch doctor treatments as I don't have the creativity necessary to have invented them myself).
Hunter101 4/23/2014 9:06:43 PM Report

It's been lovely chatting with you.

You are a great example of the caliber of idiots out there.
Hunter101 4/23/2014 9:08:21 PM Report

I think they had a better chance with Jesus curing them than you...
Hunter101 4/23/2014 9:10:00 PM Report

Evidence based medicine is not a belief, people. It is proven through years of study.

Beliefs and outcomes don't ever go hand in hand.

Unless you believe that the tooth-fairy actually takes the tooth from under your pillow.
IgnorantNortherner 4/23/2014 9:19:57 PM Report

Thanks for playing, Hunter.

To anyone with cancer...a loved one with cancer....

Research Rick Simpson Oil before you go the chemo or radiotherapy route and regret it. Works for melanomas, too.

There are thousands, upon thousands, upon thousands of accounts out there. Hunter says they're all just imagining it but I would argue there is a plethora of primary journal research (evidence based research as hunter might say) backing it up and even BigPharma is trying to get their hands in the pie.

I can't overstate how important diet is, either. Most of the stuff we eat these days just FEEDS cancer. It's not luck we get cancer at rates thousands of times higher than those of just a few generations ago.
Hunter101 4/23/2014 9:23:09 PM Report




....But it only works if you say "abracadabra!"
Brietsy 4/23/2014 9:29:58 PM Report

aren't there listed side effects of overdosing on Vitamin C? like... really bad ones?
IgnorantNortherner 4/23/2014 9:45:35 PM Report

I don't know, brit...have you met google? lol jk

nausea, bloating, diarrhea, frequent urination, strong smelling urine....

....nothing that will kill you and what you're treating possibly might.

Keep in mind the doc is talking intravenous or liposomal vitamin C. It's not unlike water in that your body can typically expel what you don't need faster than you're intaking it (which should never be all at once) and what you're hoping to treat has associated symptoms/risks that far outweigh the risk of overdose.

You have to be trying to overdose to actually do it....and then maybe your tummy hurts for a while.
superior87 4/23/2014 10:18:53 PM Report

IgnorantNortherner

To go back to my original comment, it's got nothing to do with the type of medicine this person practices. It is unseemly to use the death of Jim Flaherty to promote or sell something, which is what this person is doing.

Why it is bolded on Sootoday's mainpage I have no idea and is frankly shocking.
I'm In 4/23/2014 10:29:40 PM Report

IgnorantNortherner hate to tell you but Bigpharma does save lives, if you like Naturopaths then keep going, the Dr. will recommend you can take that route if you want, but when the Dr. tells you to take prescription drugs cause it is a matter of life and death than what will you do, I know I will take the Doc's advise otherwise why go and see him\her. I have a family member that works for Bigpharma who went to university for 6 years and they do research upon research on a drug and hold symposiums to give Dr's advice on whether the prescription drug be for cancer or what ever other disease it may be. I don't know about you but prescription drugs have come along way in saving or prolonging lives ie: cancer, heart disease so don't knock Bigpharma because they want a piece of the so called pie. Bigpharma pays Scientists, Biotechnologists to do research on prescription drugs which does cost a lot of money to do.
Deano_ 4/23/2014 11:01:39 PM Report

Hunter.. if anyone here is a close-minded and ignorant, it is you. If everyone was like you, society would never evolve.
IgnorantNortherner 4/23/2014 11:11:11 PM Report

I totally agree with you superior - and maybe we should have just ignored the doc and his article and just paid tribute to Flaherty...he didn't need to toss the name out there for people to listen...and I could have helped and ignored the BigPharma sales reps but ah jeez....I'm well into my view on naturopathic/clean diet rant now

@I'mIn I'm not contesting they save tons of lives and do some amazing research and a lot of people rely on their drugs to live and they employ A LOT of people. I just think, IMO, if you gave any one of us that much money and that much of a market share, any one of us could be a lot more efficient (at saving lives (and money/losing jobs)) when it comes to some (and possibly all) diseases, like cancer. It's worth diversifying our portfolio a little bit more, I'd say.

There tends to be a ton of cancer research over the years with lots of things tried (obviously) and chemo/radio just don't seem to be the best options...for anyone...which again, is not to say you are not entitled to attribute you living, RIGHT NOW, to one of these treatments. I am happy for you if this is the case and you're happy.

If you are open to some other thing possibly working better, though, consider first a diet change (which in some cases is the cause and is relatively risk free to try -- something alkaline, no refined sugar or similar garb), RSO, liposomal vitC or 'superdosing' VitD3/w K2. It's really hard to get more sick taking these things and near impossible to die from them. It is not impossible to die from chemo or radio -- in fact it's pretty common....
Papa2 4/23/2014 11:23:23 PM Report

Big PHARMA doesnt want it out!!!

Interest in Vitamin C as a potential cancer therapy peaked about 30 years ago when case series data showed a possible benefit. In 1979 and 1985, however, other researchers reported no benefit for cancer patients taking high oral doses of Vitamin C in two double-blind, placebo-controlled clinical trials.

Several observations led the NIH researchers to revisit Ascorbate as a cancer therapy. " Clinical and pharmacokinetic studies conducted in the past 12 years showed that oral Ascorbate levels in plasma and tissue are tightly controlled. In the case series, Ascorbate was given orally and intravenously, but in the trials Ascorbate was just given orally. It was not realized at the time that only injected Ascorbate might deliver the concentrations needed to see an anti-tumor effect, " said Levine.

Source: National Institutes of Health, 2008

Where does all all our donation money go to?????/

IgnorantNortherner 4/23/2014 11:26:20 PM Report

Nice one, papa. That's what doing intravenous/lipsomal accomplishes...makes sure more makes it to the bloodstream...and I'd spam post links if I didn't think SooToday would just take them down but you can only spoon feed so much, too. People have to be willing to be open enough to spend a bunch of time researching. on their own.

Yeah, turns out ST can't stand posted links....and their site...dowhatchouwont...but anyone know why? I understand no spam posting...but I haven't seen too many spambots around lately so when it's relevant to discussion...
Hunter101 4/23/2014 11:41:12 PM Report

Deano, we have evolved. We have got past the naturopathic BS that doesn't work and have started to engineer medications that actually save lives.


Close-minded? Because I don't believe Vitamin C can cure cancer? Wow!
Hunter101 4/23/2014 11:43:59 PM Report

Tell you what! You don't have to believe in prescription drugs! Don't take them!

You can believe in naturopathic drugs and take them all you like! We'll call it natural selection in the end!
Hunter101 4/23/2014 11:50:52 PM Report

It seems like this guys answer for everything is IV vitamin C. What a quack.
Buddy_Bob 4/24/2014 5:05:11 AM Report

Of course Jim Flaherty had to die. So do you. It's as natural as being born. Sure our selfishness and egos, ignorance and fears, make us want ourselves, and love ones to be with us, as long as possible (in flesh), But we all have to die.
Personally I don't see it as an end, but rather a new beginning. Much like a caterpillar going in a cocoon.

You see I believe that consciousness forms matter. Not the other way around...And this magic mass of molecules that I call Bob, knows that he's more than just the sum of his parts. I don't care if I have a brain, lungs, heart, etc. What it breaks down to is a collection of molecules that I've amassed and maintain, to use to communicate and function in this world....somehow....and when I've learned all I can with this creation. I'm going to break it down and begin a new one...or start a new challenge..

The Jim Flaherty behind the Jim Flaherty mass of molecules,that we know....was ready to move on. If medicine would have extended his life, a car wreck or something else would have served his purpose. If it/he wanted to keep going, Placebo's, holy water, or whatever he believed in could have brought about his health.
statusquo 4/24/2014 7:19:28 AM Report

avo13 4/24/2014 12:32:33 AM Report

"No Jim Flaherty might not have had to die, but you Mr. Jones should. I really hope you get cancer and when you do decide to take vitamin c to cure it rather than medicine. Let Natural Selection take its course."


avo,


This is just about the most disgusting thing I have read in here for a long time.
Just Curious 4/24/2014 7:44:03 AM Report

Funny Stats, I was just thinking the same thing about that post and am surprised it has been left standing.

Being a cancer survivor(for now, at least), I will take modern medicine any time..:).
IgnorantNortherner 4/24/2014 7:47:40 AM Report

buddy bob....might you say we are spiritual beings having a human (lol a meat sack) experience?

I recently came across a site you may find interesting. I'd file it under multiverse/matrix theory. On the "out there" scale it's an eleven.

mandelaeffect dot com
right wing 4/24/2014 8:46:57 AM Report

"I've cured more than half a dozen friends and family diagnosed with cancer with nothing but so called "natural" treatments. It's actually a really, REALLY bad joke how easy it is to get rid of. No surgery, chemo or radio and in three of the cases they were told they'd be lucky to live six months and they're all still kickin'."

So why have you not been splashed all across the media and written up.
It would be easy to do, you simply document the curing process.
I've met nut cases like you before...claiming to cure cancer.
If there is a joke here it is you claiming to cure cancer...of course all done "in the closet".

Back in the day folks died all the time of consumption...it was the word they had for folks dying of what they could not diagnose.
Glad to see that the vast majority of the posters on here can clearly see what a nut bar you are.
right wing 4/24/2014 9:41:15 AM Report

According to Stephen Barrett, a retired psychiatrist who operates Quackwatch, a number of people claiming to have had spontaneous remissions or to have been cured by alternative treatments never had cancer in the first place. Barrett, who has tracked claims of cures through alternative therapies, says some people were given mistaken diagnoses. Other claims, he says, are outright scams, used to promote books and videos that purport to share the secret of curing cancer or AIDS.

Pinning down spontaneous remissions has been a little like chasing rainbows. It’s not even possible to say just how frequently such cases occur—estimates generally range from 1 in 60,000 to 1 in 100,000 patients. Many cases, when subjected to close scrutiny, prove not to have been remissions at all.


Questionable Cancer Therapies

Check it out at....

Quackwatch

http://tinyurl.com/t15u

You should contact them IgnorantNorthern as you would get worldwide recognition for curing cancer as you have claimed.
Bet you don't.
T-rat 4/24/2014 10:26:36 AM Report

EUREKA! I've found it!! I've found the cure for all of this incessant diarrheal diatribe and boorish and insulting behavior, insensivity and ignorance. The SCROLL BUTTON. It works and is a combination of a natural reaction and a man-made technical solution. Try it.
IgnorantNortherner 4/24/2014 11:11:42 AM Report

I don't want or deserve any credit, right wing. As I mentioned up thread, I followed only what many others had done and had had work for them. If you have difficulty understanding why a (highly profitable) treatment would be in use if it wasn't the best then you're probably the kind of guy or gal that believes the most important stories always make it to the front page. At the risk of repeating myself...believe. whatever. you. want.

I spent a few hundred hours doing cancer research the first time a friend told me he didn't want to go the chemo route after it had little success within his own family and I came away with several things I thought might work based on a ton of primary journal research and first hand accounts and chemo and radio were among the things that made the least sense to try.

It was the doctors who diagnosed them with cancer in the first place, rightwing, so I don't like to think they are diagnosing lots of people with cancer that don't actually have it...but who knows I guess? I'm sure Stephen Barrett is never wrong. From his site...

"Has the method shown potential for benefit that clearly exceeds the potential for harm?"

This was the big one for me. I'm not giving them anything they wouldn't normally get some of in a healthy diet with some sunshine...they're just getting a lot more of it. Comparing the harm of trying something like that with something like chemo or radio has their associated risks at opposite ends of the spectrum.
3rd times a charm 4/24/2014 7:12:11 PM Report

too bad doctors aren't educated about cannabis--which does cure cancer as it only attacks cancer cells, instead of invasive chemo, which not only attacks ALL cells, but makes each doctor big bucks for using it to kill people...I am guessing Flaherty is used as an example as he is the man that took most of the money out of health care--and before you 'experts' reply to this, do your research--cannabis CURES!!
Hunter101 4/24/2014 9:07:25 PM Report

3tac... I hope you are joking.
Hunter101 4/24/2014 9:09:15 PM Report

Cannabis has no effect on cancer cells growth.

THC can decrease pain. Thats about it. Usually it's because you get so damn stoned you don't feel anything.
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