Dogs captured, being held by Humane Society (UPDATED) Wednesday, March 26, 2014 by: SooToday.com Staff
Two dogs believed to be responsible for killing deer in the Point Aux Pins Drive area have been captured alive, and are now in the custody of the Sault Ste. Marie Humane Society.
The dogs appear to have been on their own “for some time,” said Cindy Ross, Humane Society manager.
“They’re not in very good shape,” said Ross.
The Ministry of Natural Resources said Monday that the dogs would be “dispatched” by conservation officers, but a spokesperson told SooToday.com on Wednesday that the dogs were captured alive separately on Tuesday.
One of the dogs was taken in with the help of an area resident.
“I’m pleased the dogs are not roaming at large attacking deer,” said Jolanta Kowalski, MNR spokesperson, in an e-mail.
“While our conservation officers can legally shoot dogs attacking deer, we’re glad they didn’t have to this time.”
What happens to the dogs now is unclear.
Ross said the Humane Society is currently holding them for five days under a city bylaw.
What happens next will depend on discussions with the MNR.
Kowalski said the MNR is investigating to find out who the dogs belong to.
One of the animals was reported to have been wearing a collar.
Kowalski said under the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act, it is illegal to let a dog run at large in an area inhabited by deer, moose, elk or bear during the closed season.
Ross said the dogs were hungry and frightened when they came in, but their dispositions appear fine.
“They’re very sweet dogs,” said Ross. “They’re not wild by any stretch.”
timber10 3/26/2014 11:49:01 AM Report
please read all previous info on this story......there is two people who seen these two dogs attack the deer....in the daytime...no wolves or other predators involved..waiting to see the fines to the owners...hope this then will send a message to other dog owners that just because you live in a rural area you cannot allow your dogs to roam unattended...if they cause bodily harm to somone not just through an attack but the cause of an accident..car swerves..knocked of a bike....you can be sued and loss of your home if need could be the result...
ThinkAgain 3/26/2014 12:07:38 PM Report
MNR states 1 thing and does the complete opposite. They are a complete joke.
How much $$$$$$$ will this cost by the time its finished.
Cost to the MNR, Cost to the Humane Society & Added Court Costs to the tax payer vrs the fine to owners (if any)
Killing several dear out of season without proper license, $$$$ -?
I spotted Sasquatch eating a rabbit in a ditch while walking down baseline yesterday.
Do I call ghost-busters? lol
Bad Dawg 3/26/2014 12:08:11 PM Report
Now to find out who owns them. Should be some heavy fines and banned from owning any animals. Throw the damn library at them!!!
lizzardskills 3/26/2014 12:13:52 PM Report
They should be put up for adoption to responsible owners.
BabyBella 3/26/2014 12:19:46 PM Report
THEY WERE HUNGRY, They are animals, they will HUNT if they need to eat! They are domestic animals! They did not hurt people. Who cares if they hunted animals to eat. Humans hunt for thrill! So what Put them to death because of a meal!
BabyBella 3/26/2014 12:20:40 PM Report
I wish I could take them!
luvmyGolf 3/26/2014 12:21:06 PM Report
The Ministry of Natural Resources said Monday that the dogs would be “dispatched” by conservation officers, but a spokesperson told SooToday.com on Wednesday that the dogs were captured alive separately on Tuesday.
(Is the MNR prepared to "dispatch" bears,lynx, roaming at large in this city?)
Slim Shady 3/26/2014 12:21:14 PM Report
So ok, the Human Society has the dogs... Now what?! I hope that nobody has the intention on "re-homing" these dogs. Once a dog has been left to go feral and has had a taste of hunted blood, the dog will never be suitable for a pet. The dogs are unpredictable and will attack someone with or without provocation. It is a shame that this had to happen but the most humane thing to do would be to euthanize them. The owners are most definitely the ones at fault. If their dogs escaped and they did not report this to the humane society – they should be fined. All dogs should (must) be registered with the City for many reasons, one good reason is to ensure that they have all been vaccinated; another good reason is so that a wayward dog can be reunited with its owner.
The City should step in and order the dogs euthanized. The Humane Society doesn’t have the room to indefinitely house they two dogs – which is no quality of life for them either.
Once again I will state this is the fault of the owners, not the dogs however it will be the dogs that pay the price for the owner’s negligence. It sad but some people should never be allowed to keep a pet and in some cases take care of children either.
greeneyeds 3/26/2014 12:30:01 PM Report
I would hope the Humane Society will do the right thing for the dogs and the community. I agree they need to be extremely careful if they choose to rehome these dogs, but I'm not totally convinced that the dogs cannot be rehabilitated, but I'm not a dog expert either, so that wouldn't be a call I'd want to have to make. They stated the dogs were hungry and scared, which would obviously make them resort to their natural instinct for survival. Shame on the people who owned these dogs for not doing right by them.
I'm thankful that they caught the dogs before any people got hurt, but I hope the people in that area continue to exercise caution with small pets and children, there are certainly other animals in that area that can harm or kill.
justsomeguy 3/26/2014 12:37:06 PM Report
@ThinkAgain - That was no sasquatch, it was a councillor.
ducky58 3/26/2014 12:40:51 PM Report
Slim Shady are you an expert on dogs how can you say re-homing them is not possible. Also who says they will attack people. Do you know this to be true if so please share you finding and proven fax with us please.
Gumby54 3/26/2014 12:44:48 PM Report
So they are sweet and not wild by any stretch!! Great now there will be hue and cry if the animals are put down. There was intent to dispatch them earlier and now the Human Society is potentially setting up to have them re-homed. If and this is only an if, they are re-homed and something goes awry and the dog or dogs injure someone, who is to be sued; MNR, the original owners (if found), the Humane Society?
nitrocircus199 3/26/2014 12:45:16 PM Report
Shoot the owners lol
frnlak 3/26/2014 12:46:57 PM Report
At least you admit that you are not an expert on dogs.But if you need any information on anything at all, contact Slim Shady, he / she seems to be an expert on everything. And very opinionated to boot.
greeneyeds 3/26/2014 12:48:31 PM Report
I mainly said that so I wouldn't get attacked for having a differing opinion then some :) I've seen some people on here just as vicious as any wild dogs!
ducky58 3/26/2014 12:51:17 PM Report
Frnlak I was starting to think that to but didn't want to say.
Sunnidelight 3/26/2014 12:55:10 PM Report
Maybe the MNR could go and shoot the former owners. The dogs should be sent to a no kill rescue for rehabilitation e.g. a Dogtown like place. Even if they present any ongoing chance of problems, they will be allowed to live and benefit from lots of human contact. I adopted a big, "risky" dog from an American no-kill facility when he was a year and a half old and brought him back to the Sault a year later when I moved home. He died in my arms ten years later, having never done anything but love everything and every body with the exception of geese. He was scared of them and would run and hide if he saw one. No complaints, no bites, no issues. An old dog can learn new tricks. We do it all the time. :-)
benjicanfreak 3/26/2014 12:57:04 PM Report
Glad to see that the humane society sees that these are sweet dogs who have been forced to fend for themselves due to irresponsible owners.
Hopefully they can be placed for adoption into wonderful families who will feed them properly and love them for the rest of their lives.
An overall happy ending for these beautiful dogs :)
GenerationXYZ 3/26/2014 12:59:53 PM Report
Slim Shady, I disagree with your comment that these dogs cannot be re-homed. I have a dog who was let loose by his owners on a reserve in the North. He supposedly roamed the community for quite a few months surviving on garbage and what not. I'm not sure if he "tasted blood," however he does gnaw on moose legs he finds in the bush every so often so I'm sure he has. He was surviving. We took him in and it was challenge at first trying to get become a house dog and used to being on a lead and not free to roam. but five years later it's a success. He's the sweetest dog ever with a quiet temperament. I think with caring individuals and the right knowledge these dogs could be rehabilitated. I'm not exactly sure what the situation is there.
steve930 3/26/2014 1:03:23 PM Report
cats a lot of times roam around hunting birds.should we start shooting the cats?
bulletcards 3/26/2014 1:03:41 PM Report
I suppose the MNR is awaiting orders from Toronto. Since the MNR in Southern Ontario are experts on issues that happen here in Northern Ontario. Don't shoot rogue bears that are a danger to humans and domesticated pets, but shoot 2 dogs that took down a couple deer because they were hungry. Makes perfect sence!!! (please note the sarcasm)
fullstringer 3/26/2014 1:08:55 PM Report
To Steve930, "cats a lot of times roam around hunting birds.should we start shooting the cats?"
That is the best analogy yet! If they are going to start shooting a dog, after the fact for chasing down a deer, then it must be open season on roaming cats? NO? Yes?
Baron 3/26/2014 1:27:04 PM Report
Entitledtomyopinion 3/26/2014 1:29:47 PM Report
Agree with Slim. I love animals, but I'll be damned if I take in one of those dogs with a 3 and 6 year old in the house. End of story. And yes, I feel the same way about Pit Bulls. I have met a lot of sweet, nice ones. Never met a bad one, actually, but its in their breeding line. I've had cats bite me, and never a pit bull, but with Pit Bulls, ITS IN THEIR BREEDING LINE. For these dogs, they have been in the wild and forced to hunt for food. Even if they are fed to capacity and in the home, their food dish is empty, a baby would make a tasty treat.
iamtc 3/26/2014 1:30:01 PM Report
If I was hungry I would not hesitate to eat the mnr
fullstringer 3/26/2014 1:33:39 PM Report
Entitledtomyopinion, uuhhmmmm, I don't think anyone is forcing you to take one of these dogs? Now sit back and relax and let the intelligent people respond ok. There you go, sit back, rest,easy, think happy thoughts....zzzzzzzzzzzzz
muncman 3/26/2014 1:33:58 PM Report
Kudos to the Humane Society on a job well done !! Two fine animals saved from needless execution by the MNR. A little love , affection, food, and warmth and these dogs will be back to normal. Best dog I ever owned I took in under identical circumstances ..... he was outstanding , friendly, caring, gentle , never one negative incident in all those many years. Oh ya, and he was half wolf and half husky !!
Boomer4771 3/26/2014 1:35:57 PM Report
If all you dog lovers want the dogs then go get them.. We will see how right you all are about not putting them down once your child or wife or neighbour gets bitten or attacked..Go take them into your family. Make sure you keep them penned up like in a zoo.Now we have someone comparing this to a cat that kills rodents and birds... WOW.
msmd 3/26/2014 1:36:00 PM Report
I guess you people are all experienced in this eh,, hunters feed some of their kills to their animals at the kill site,,ducks,moose,bear,pigs and deer do u think they cannot be trusted those dogs can easily be mixed up with those 20 wolves that are in the same area,, I can assure you that two dogs would have a hard time taking down one deer never mind 6 and I can assure u a farrel dog is not sweet by any means at any point I have wintnessed this a few times in my life and those dogs should not be destroyed,,Shame on you ,,and if one of your animals came across a carcuss even your little small dogs they would eat it hungry or not its in their nature theres no way in hell farrel dogs are sweet,I suppose you people on here are probably against the spring bear hunt to bahhhhh/As I stated earlier theres no way a sweet domesticated dog would do this as the humane society is saying these two dogs are,,,don't put any blame on the 20 timber wolves in the exact area you bunch of dummies,,if these dogs killed 6 deer how the hell are they starving????I believe these dogs were in the wrong place at the wrong time plain and simple//Mnr are making themselves look dumb these are the same people who said we didn't have cougars and they didn't kill our deer and moose calfs idiots
msmd 3/26/2014 1:37:48 PM Report
What the hell makes you think they would attack people so stund!!!!
teets 3/26/2014 1:40:32 PM Report
Just was wondering what proof MNR has other than perhaps a cranky dog hating neighbour. If the dogs were abandoned and let to survive on their own....who is to blame ??
arpem 3/26/2014 1:42:54 PM Report
Shortz 3/26/2014 1:52:01 PM Report
Entitledtomyopinion, your comment regarding pit bulls is totally out of line proving that you have fàĺĺen victim to being brainwashed by the media regarding pit bulls. There are more documented incidents of dog bites and attacks being caused by small breeds like poodles, spaniels, etc than larger breeds such as pitbulls. I know someone in the grooming business who says she has never had an issue with a pit bull, yet has had issues with other breeds trying to nip her or bite her.
As for a dog tbat "has had a taste of blood", does this mean if I bave a dog and it hapoens to kilk and eat a chipmunk or squirrel wbile ghe dog is tied on a lead in my yard tbat I should be ha ing it euthanized because the dog has now "had a taste of blood"? Gimme a break.
missmya 3/26/2014 2:00:04 PM Report
When I was kid I remember people used to drop off unwanted dogs in a field to get rid of them. I wonder if that's what happened to these dogs? They were just abandoned.
greeneyeds 3/26/2014 2:04:18 PM Report
I have to say that I agree with Entitledtomyopinion in the sense that I don't know that I would want these dogs if I had small children. They may deserve a second chance, but only when it is safe for the people involved. I think if they do rehome them it would need to be in a home with an experienced dog person, much like they paired Karma up with a home suited to her needs. While I love dogs, these two have had a rough time and may be a little more unpredictable then normal. On the other hand, I've seen cases where a rescued animal has a special loyalty to their human because they sense that they have been rescued in the true sense of the word.
scottstewy123 3/26/2014 2:08:09 PM Report
Now the question is IF the owners can be found.. The dog may have a collar. But if the dog does not have tags well it will be a difficult time to find the owners. But I am glad they did not have to shoot the dogs. Hopefully the 2 animals can be rehabilitated and live out there life in a loving home.
Bill_the_Cat 3/26/2014 2:15:20 PM Report
If the animals in question hunted and killed, it will be difficult to rehabilitate them. Once they've tasted blood they cannot be fully trusted.
The humane (and safest) thing would be to charge the owner (if found) and destroy the dogs.
kamen 3/26/2014 2:16:50 PM Report
They say the dogs have a sweet disposition...but....I can bet anything these dogs will be food aggressive....I hope they can find the owner who deserves to be fined.
Stan12 3/26/2014 2:18:59 PM Report
If they're so "sweet" why didn't they leave them alone??? Doesn't the Manager of the Humane Society know that a "sweet" hungry dog in the wild becomes a killer!
I don't think the deer, now dead, thought the dogs were so "sweet"!
greeneyeds 3/26/2014 2:33:54 PM Report
That makes no sense to me. Of course they can't leave them. She was likely commenting on the behaviour she saw. Any animal including humans will start to follow their basic animal instinct and do what they need to do to survive if they are starving, that doesn't mean they are Kujo type dogs.
Bad Dawg 3/26/2014 2:39:00 PM Report
We give all kinds of thieves and druggies endless amounts of chances to change and RARELY they change. So because it is two dogs you say there is no saving them?? You people are idiots if you think a dog cannot be rehabilitated!!
pawjoggin 3/26/2014 2:39:17 PM Report
Kind of amazing listening to all these canine experts and wildlife management type,any dogs i ever had ate wild meat and they were all good obedient family dogs with kids in house.I never forget that all dogs are wild animals that have been domesticated,but they are still DOGS.If the dogs killed because of the irresponsible owner not feeding them ,the owner is guilty,the dogs did what was natural ,kind of like a starving person stealing food,wrong ,but ok in a way because of circumstances. Also if you went by the foolish MNR law ,every dog out of city limits north would have to be on a leash at all times.As for the sweet little deer,some consider them PEST,if you own a farm.
just given er 3/26/2014 2:41:35 PM Report
There are more wolves and lynx out this way than people think.There is many times i seen deer carcass with huge wolf prints around.They kill 1/4 the population of deer easily.The same deer come around everyday, and you can count the numbers dropping throughout the winter.There has been horses mauled,cows killed, dogs eaten off the leash,people chased by wild animals out here.I have been face to face with a big timberwolf by marks bay and it showed no sign of fear.Point of the story is people have a little more to worry about than a couple dogs running around.
camiol 3/26/2014 2:43:03 PM Report
All these comments stating that the dogs should be destroyed now that they've tasted blood is idiotic. More and more people nowadays have their dogs on raw meat diets, you don't see them attacking other animals or people. Hell I give my dogs meat all the time, cooked or raw, and they are certainly not vicious or untrustworthy because of it. These poor dogs were just trying to survive, and I believe whole heartedly that they can be rehabilitated and adopted to loving homes. Would I adopt one of them? A resounding YES if I didn't have two large dogs already.
Slim Shady 3/26/2014 2:48:50 PM Report
To clarify my earlier comment “…Once a dog has been left to go feral and has had a taste of hunted blood, the dog will never be suitable for a pet. The dogs are unpredictable and will attack someone with or without provocation….”
There is a difference between feeding a dog raw meat and a dog stalking, chasing, killing, ripping raw meat off a carcass and fighting off other dogs to do it.
I am a deer hunter and I do use hounds to lawfully hunt deer in WMU 47 where it is permitted. We have never had a case where our dogs “killed” the deer. Yes we do feed them some raw meat along with their kibble too.
Dogs are very protective of there own territory and will become aggressive if they have been left in a feral lifestyle…. The same with cats.
Most of the time the animal won’t attack its owner but if it gets loose again it may attack another person our animal just to assert its dominance. I for one could not live with the fact if one of my dogs mauled another person – especially a child. I also do not want to live beside the person that adopts a feral dog either. I do not want my children or wife getting mauled. I will "dispatch" any attacking dog on my property first and ask questions later.
Regardless this is a sad story all around. For the deer, for the dogs and for the MNR. I can not believe all the people who are negative towards the MNR. They are doing their job as set out by their regulations. The only mistake the MNR made was to tell the media that they were hunting two feral dogs. This brought out all the bleed heart people to save two dogs that unfortunately will be destined to live a life in a cage or chained up. They should have just handled the problem. It is a shame that the Humane Society only reacted to capturing these dogs only when it hit the paper that they were being hunted.
cooper2006 3/26/2014 2:57:03 PM Report
Norm 3/26/2014 3:05:06 PM Report
Funny how dogs can wake people up, bloggers.
the boss 3/26/2014 3:38:11 PM Report
i hope they get adopted and their former owners get charged severely.
superior87 3/26/2014 3:47:21 PM Report
Wow. People REALLY don't know the difference between an animal killing a deer and a cat killing a small bird? REALLY? Think about it real hard for a second. Really think about it. What do you think the difference might be? I'll give you a hint - one of the animals can be around 6-8 feet high and weigh anywhere from 110-300 lbs.
greeneyeds 3/26/2014 3:51:51 PM Report
I'm holding in my sarcasm, but seriously...I think people know that there is a size difference between a deer and a bird....but them most cats aren't the same size as these dogs either. I believe the comparison is the hunting and killing part not the size of the prey. In the end, I think it's impossible to predict what the effect of this time running wild will have on these dogs, which I assume is why the Humane Society is holding them to try to get a read on their disposition.
Ynattirb 3/26/2014 4:06:26 PM Report
Wow what is with you people! These dogs were left alone in the dead of winter with no source of food, what did you expect them to do? If it was indeed these dogs who killed the deer, they simply hunted to survive. End of story.
FirstChairLastCall 3/26/2014 4:06:33 PM Report
Many dogs that end up at the humane society have unknown histories. Has anybody realized that "wild" dogs end up there ALL the time? And that those dogs are adopted out ALL the time?
Ynattirb 3/26/2014 4:08:36 PM Report
@FirstChairLastCall - What a fantastic point!! Completely agree.
BabyBella 3/26/2014 4:13:27 PM Report
These animals needed to hunt to eat!!!! I suppose they should have been SMART ENOUGH to starve to prove that they wouldn't hurt anyone. They are domestic dogs. They did not hurt a person they fed themselves. Give them a chance! Hold the owners responsible. Poor dogs.
friendlyone24 3/26/2014 4:46:16 PM Report
Let's see what develops with the information from the dogs tag....
let's hope the owner is found safe...
first of all.
Koodoos to those involved in the rescue [hopefully].
Right of Centre 3/26/2014 5:06:09 PM Report
Will every dog be killed that has killed, or attacked, a porcupine? A racoon? A rat?
If they were abandoned, and starving enough to go after deer, do they not get points for not going after humans in the area, instead of deer? Humans would be easier to chow down on.
It's amazing the MNR can find the money, and the mandate, to shoot pets, but not bears roaming the city.
ducky58 3/26/2014 5:06:39 PM Report
Really does anybody have proof that the dogs attack the deer. Maybe a photo perhaps would help. With everyone having cell phones you would think so.
ducky58 3/26/2014 5:07:31 PM Report
Not just some ones word.
right wing 3/26/2014 5:24:23 PM Report
These dogs should be put down IMO.
If it is decide not to then any of those that want to can head on down and adopt them.
Have at it, you can take the chance...
Lovethenorth 3/26/2014 5:26:52 PM Report
What a relief to know that it's ok to put down pet animals that kill wildlife. I hope this means I get to kill all the stray cats who kill birds in my yard now.
There is NO DIFFERENCE between a dog or cat killing wildlife. Cat predation of songbirds can have a serious impact on their population.
I am actually being flippant; I don't think either cats or dogs should be put down for killing wildlife. They are natural carnivores and if abandoned will revert to nature to survive. I believe they can be re-domesticated with time and patience. A dog that kills deer for food is not going to start mowing down people's children!
teets 3/26/2014 5:29:56 PM Report
@ducky58 ... my sentiments exactly !
Maleficent 3/26/2014 5:50:55 PM Report
So if by chance they took down a deer..ate it - that means they will eat your family? If you were stranded in the wild.. would you not hunt animals to survive?
walleyejed 3/26/2014 5:58:32 PM Report
Wow, I can't believe the comments from some people when they have no clue what the facts are. For starters my hat goes off to the Conservation Officers of the MNR for capturing the two dogs and bringing them to the humane society, fortunately the dogs did not have to be dispatched. All in all a good ending, the remaining deer get a chance making it through this harsh winter and hopefully the dogs will find a good home. For some reason some people were under the impression the dogs would be dispatched no matter what! The MNR said dogs can be dispatched while in the process of or engaged at chasing deer.
Hopefully the COs can find who the owner(s) are and find out why someone would ever allow their pets to suffer like this.
paulapoo 3/26/2014 6:07:54 PM Report
Walleyejed ...... I believe this was stated in a previous post “If we are able to identify the dog owners, we will likely charge them and the dogs themselves are going to be shot,” said Jolanta Kowalski, an MNR spokesperson. People have a reason to believe that MNR were going to kill the dogs no matter what as a MNR spokesperson even STATED. How bout YOU learn the facts.
paulapoo 3/26/2014 6:08:32 PM Report
I think the person who stated "The dogs were in the wrong place at the wrong time" is totally correct. Dogs WILL feed off dead animals. I have 16 achers in my back yard and when we go for walks in the back yard the dogs run ahead of us and one time brought a DEER LEG back to show us. That does not mean my dog chased after the deer and killed it, its a dog, they do what they do. I believe the pack of wolves in that area had something to do with this. It is sad that these dogs are looked as as a predator... It isn't their fault they were out there eating the deer, its in their human nature to feed on meat while hungry. Maybe the owners shouldn't have just let the dogs run wild and not be there for the dogs to feed them and take care of them properly. Mnr is the biggest joke. It wouldnt make a difference if MNR exsisted or not! We live on the outskirts of town and there are beers in the area all the time! And they are not afraid of anything! We had a bear around the yard for 5 days straight and when I called the mnr to report my problem all they said was to cut down our apple tree.... funny because the bear didnt pay Attention to the APPLE tree it payed attention to the smell of the barbecue and the smell of garbage in the garage. I have went out on my steps many of times banging pots and pans and the bear just looks at me and continues on doing what its doing. THEY ARE NOT SCARED they don't care, they are getting more confident and it is scary when u have kids around and pets! I also want to say why are we taking a bunch of pictures of this LYNX that is around a neighbour hood? Like awwww look at the cute cat licking itself, it only killed 5 cats over night no big deal.
Like common! Whats gunna happen when a child is waiting for the bus one day and the lynx feels violated and takes a swat at the kid? Is it going to take that to make the MNR say oh... Man i guess we should have relocated it sooner eh, oh well. Like DO YOUR JOB. This is serious stuff!
deerhunter 3/26/2014 6:30:53 PM Report
does this mean we cant hunt the dogs aaaaawwww
Bill_the_Cat 3/26/2014 7:15:27 PM Report
Is there a lynx attack on record anywhere in Canada? If so, what is the occurance rate? One lone lynx is not likely to swipe at a child--she seems to be following the rabbits into town, whose tracks are all around my house.
Stray dog attacks--especially when packed--are all too common worldwide. BtC lived in places where hunts were organised to eliminate the dog problem, paying special attention to locating the dens to destroy the pups.
The dangers of dogs are well known and recorded.
SmAsHed 3/26/2014 7:29:20 PM Report
So pretty much the end to this story is that we should just shoot everyone and everything. It`s clearly the only way to resolve this matter.
Mopar 3/26/2014 8:20:19 PM Report
Does the MNR also shoot wolves for attacking Deer. Taxpayer dollars at work for sure. The humane society has the dogs and if they have a collar the owners should not be too hard to track down.
They can foot the bill for their capture. The MNR should now be out of the picture and go do some real work.
Did anyone actually see the dogs kill a deer? My guess is probably not and they more than likely came across the carcass and fed off it because they were starving to death.
Dogs are man's best friend so they say. I wonder if we are anyone's best friend?
Mopar 3/26/2014 8:23:32 PM Report
Also the MNR could not confirm that the dogs killed the deer without DNA samples. So it was totally irresponsible of them to state that they had confirmed the dogs were responsible for the kill.
Total bunch of losers!!!!!
bugalugs 3/26/2014 8:53:56 PM Report
I live in the country, my dog is very gentle, very well mannered, but if there is a dead deer lying there, she will and has eaten some! Gone into the bush, brought back a deer leg, another time a deer skull...this doesn't meAn she is a threat and she sure didn't kill the deer...it's nature you ding a lings! Wow...if the dogs are hungry they will eat! Whether they killed it or not! Doesn't mean they will be a danger if taken care of properly!
jonny5 3/26/2014 9:27:53 PM Report
sault_z-Q 3/26/2014 11:04:47 PM Report
I was out doing my driveway in the West End of the city a week ago, and there was a coyote standing in my driveway .When I called in the sighting I had no one come by nor did the MNR show up .I took it upon my self to contact the people on the street to be alert when going out in there yards and making sure there garbage was put in sheds garages etc.So who are the MNR protecting the wild life or the public DON"T be shooting the dogs they where probably protecting the public
Jitterbug 3/27/2014 5:42:05 AM Report
Mostly if that is a word rather than ban the word bossy that has been stated to ban that word I do agree with the comments made on this suitation. Owners are and should be the ones that are liable for this suitation. I do not stick up for the dogs but they are a pack animal my girlfriend had german shepards attack her baby horse. I luv dogs and all animals. SOOOOOOOOO sad owners should not leave dogs wild. Luv deer PS look what is happening is south subbury elk getting killed railway and because of wolves tough winter for alllll
Jitterbug 3/27/2014 5:52:38 AM Report
sorry guys respond to this story I agree it takes more then two dogs to take down a deer i have had dogs chasing my horse around and it will take atleast three dogs not two
vlr 3/27/2014 10:29:36 AM Report
Did anyone ACTUALLY see these two dogs bring down the deer?
girlygirl123 3/27/2014 10:38:02 AM Report
OK lets get real here. I know for sure it only takes one dog to bring down a deer given the right circumstances. When the air force base closed down in the Michigan Soo there was so many dogs left behind and many needed to be shot, they even took down bears The last known incident was one dog killing deer. To shoot these dogs is insane and the MNR is as useless as it goes. How about shooting people that illegally hunt just to sell the meat. How about people hunting just for the sport of it and leave the carcass? How about blaming Wolves that thin out the sick. The only thing that cant be rehabilitated is the human kind that does the destruction of our world, not animals.
TFinn 3/27/2014 10:52:05 AM Report
BabyBella 3/26/2014 4:13:27 PM
Poor dogs ... they didn't hurt anyone ...huh ...???
If they are hungry and wild and now territorial running free.. who's to say they wouldn’t hurt a child or any personthey come across. I'd rather err on the side of caution ...MNR did the proper thing.
quad core 3/27/2014 11:30:44 AM Report
The video only shows the aftermath,not the physical act of the killing of these deers.
Does the MNR have video footage of these dogs killing the deers,or are they just assuming the dogs took part in the killing.
People seeing from a distant is not an accurate description of what dog/or wolf did what
With that many wolves and 2 dogs
who can say which ones took down the deers.
MAYBE the dogs were just following along with the pack in hopes of a free meal.
(PECKING ORDER TO ALFA MALE OF THE PACK)
They would probably be at the back of the pack and eat last (the scraps of cold blood not hot).
Many dogs have ate raw(bloody) meat and are not seen as Vicious or Killers.
Does this justified killing these dogs
I VOTE NO
TFinn 3/27/2014 12:34:25 PM Report
Wild dogs are and can be a problem. Below is just one example of one area.
St. LOUIS, Mo. (KMOX) – Ten years after a fourth-grade boy was attacked and nearly eaten alive by wild dogs in north St. Louis, city leaders are scrambling to make sure it doesn’t happen again.
Aldermanic President Lewis Reed is sounding the alarm. “I’ve witnessed packs of dogs, 10 and 15 dogs running together, and I’ve seen all these dogs I’m talking about they don’t have collars, they don’t have tags, these are truly wild dogs,” he said.
Reed says stray dogs are terrorizing the north side. ”It’s obscene that parents have to walk their kids to school, in some parts of the city, with a golf club to fend off wild dogs.”
Entitledtomyopinion 3/27/2014 1:30:46 PM Report
Dogs bite human - dogs get put down
Dogs kill deer - dogs get put down?
What on the food chain is wrong here?
The way I see it, either the original owners step up and claim ownership, or relocate them into the wild away from humans. To me this is a lord of the flies type scenario. I am fed well, live in a home. If you put me into the wild to provide for myself, although it would pain me to do so, I would kill to eat. Leave me to that for months or years, by myself, then re-insert me into society, yeah, I would have some trouble adjusting. But the difference is, I can communicate with my words the difficulties I am having and my emotions. Dogs can't do that, its a best guess scenario as to how the dogs would manage a re-introduction. I think also knowing how long those dogs were out there would help form an opinion.
Mike58 3/27/2014 1:51:26 PM Report
How many dogs and cats do you think the Humane Society put down every year ???? Give your heads a shake people !!!
beanie 3/27/2014 3:06:41 PM Report
I'm no expert on dogs either but I know people pretty well and Slim Shady seems alot like a know it all jackass!
Bad Dawg 3/27/2014 4:44:54 PM Report
good points with the cats..... murderers of birds and defenseless squirrels!! Not too mention the psychological abuse of my dog as they taunt him through the patio door!! When will our voices be heard?? When a child is brutally mauled by one of your many your mean, bullying cats.
and to the person who said "dogs cannot be rehabilitated"..... you are an idiot! If former fighting dogs like Boxer's, Rottweiler's, Cane Corso's, and the famous Pitter's can change, anything possible with a dog!
AndyCap 3/27/2014 7:16:09 PM Report
These dogs should be forced to do community service hunting for meat for the soup kitchen. After they serve their sentence they should open their own daycare to prove to everyone that they are not harmful to children.
TFinn 3/28/2014 12:06:57 PM Report
May be it's time to check your meds ..lol
muncman 3/28/2014 3:32:53 PM Report
FirstChairLastCall , says it all! Finally we find intelligent life on earth!
Once these dogs are fed and cared for they will be fine , just like all the other 'wild' dogs that get picked up and taken to the Humane Society daily. Vigilanty accusations pinned on these two are unwarranted, they have done nothing but survive! No threats to humans were ever made.
benjicanfreak 4/2/2014 3:45:40 PM Report
HAPPY ENDING FOR ALL! These dogs have been placed for adoption through the Sault Ste Marie Humane Society.
Best of luck finding forever homes boys!