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MoneySense wants us to move where?

Friday, March 14, 2014   by: Michael Purvis

Sault Ste. Marie fell 19 spots on MoneySense Magazine’s list of the best places to live in Canada.

The Sault places 129 out of 201 cities on the 2014 list, down from 108 in last year’s ranking.

Among small cities, this steel town ranks 79 out of 140.

The ranking takes into account 34 different factors, including such things as the Sault’s unemployment rate (10.5 percent), average family income ($73,739.87) and how many people bike to work (1.06 percent).

St. Albert, Alta. a city of about 64,000 just outside Edmonton, tops both the small cities list and the overall ranking. Alberta and Quebec dominated the Top 10, with only Aurora and Stratford representing for Ontario.

Among Northern Ontario cities the Sault lags, though only Sudbury scores much better with a ranking of 70 overall.

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amylynn 3/14/2014 1:13:59 PM Report

The Soo is so much more than just making money. I am really sad that some people may use this information as a reason not to move to our area!! I like to see more people tapping into the major potential The Soo area has. Keep it positive!
Koolaid 3/14/2014 1:26:59 PM Report

10.5 % unemployment, brutal. good thing for the minimum wage jobs or this city would be a ghost town.
learningaswego 3/14/2014 1:27:35 PM Report

The fact it ranks Sudbury higher than the Sault (have lived in both) says all you need to know about how valid (not) these ranking things are.
Outside Observer 3/14/2014 2:00:05 PM Report

Cost of living is amazingly low in the Sault. Looking at real estate in Toronto/GTA makes me seriously consider moving back to the Soo. You can lead a good, relaxing life in the Soo with good amenities and without all the hustle and bustle of a big city. For all it's faults, it's not so bad (personal reflection after having lived in 3 other (bigger) cities in three different provinces).
dadal 3/14/2014 2:00:54 PM Report

Let's remember that Sudbury has more employment and appears overall more stable and willing to advance than the Soo ever will. The Soo is still not THAT bike friendly, relies on minimum wage jobs and doesn't like any national retail that 'threatens" local business. Plus our crime rate. We are still in the top for overall crime per capita than many other cities our size in Ontario. The one nice thing about sites like this one is how the crime is finally being shoved in our faces to deal with. Break and Enters, Drunk Driving, Assaults and other crimes we never heard about until web based media started reporting them. It's easy to bash any publication that "hurts our feelings" by painting a bad picture of the Soo instead of pulling our heads out of the sand and admitting the Soo has issues.
KiwiOnASticK 3/14/2014 2:01:06 PM Report

It's a fair ranking. This city is definitely not perfect, nor the worst place in the country. The website does provide all of their numbers for anyone who wants to calculate their own rankings on only the categories that are important to them.
Stevie-E 3/14/2014 4:07:30 PM Report

Of the unemployed, how many of those are people working the system??

...I would put $100 on half!

There's a need for social assistance but when it becomes a season thing for you then it's time to seek full time employment, start your own business or leave!

If you can afford drugs, alcohol and smokes, you can afford to put a roof over your head and contribute like the rest of us...bums

After the rant above, I am going to end on a positive note: the Soo is a city with tons of potential! There are plenty of jobs out there if you truly want to work or create work for yourselves. I love seeing new companies starting up by people in their 20's and 30's. It's good too see and people should support that. I certainly do

The downtown is looking like it will be revitalized over the next year or so and it "seems" that the city is trying to help those people who want to start business up downtown.

The movie industry is eying the Soo, so maybe brighter days ahead!

I remain optimistic. So should you.

An no drinking and driving while you peeps are getting your Irish on this weekend!
Stevie-E 3/14/2014 4:07:31 PM Report

Of the unemployed, how many of those are people working the system??

...I would put $100 on half!

There's a need for social assistance but when it becomes a season thing for you then it's time to seek full time employment, start your own business or leave!

If you can afford drugs, alcohol and smokes, you can afford to put a roof over your head and contribute like the rest of us...bums

After the rant above, I am going to end on a positive note: the Soo is a city with tons of potential! There are plenty of jobs out there if you truly want to work or create work for yourselves. I love seeing new companies starting up by people in their 20's and 30's. It's good too see and people should support that. I certainly do

The downtown is looking like it will be revitalized over the next year or so and it "seems" that the city is trying to help those people who want to start business up downtown.

The movie industry is eying the Soo, so maybe brighter days ahead!

I remain optimistic. So should you.

An no drinking and driving while you peeps are getting your Irish on this weekend!
Outside Observer 3/14/2014 4:50:04 PM Report

dadal, "doesn't like any national retail that 'threatens" local business."

A lot of communities would count that as a positive.
wife 3/14/2014 6:53:05 PM Report

Instead of trying to promote our city as a tourist destination the MAYOR and council should be promoting The Soo as a senior haven.
When you go shopping all you see is White, Grey and Bald heads in the stores, canes abound and the pension cheques assure a steady income.
young guy 3/14/2014 7:22:04 PM Report

Stevie-E,

Are you suggesting that everybody who works seasonally should work by themselves in their own business?

Most seasonal businesses 'require' employees. We 'need' seasonal workers. And yes, they have houses and pay taxes also. It comes of off their checks when they're working and they pay taxes on their EI benefits every tax season. Nobody enjoys EI's wage and paying a whole bunch of tax on it every year.

Think please...

Sam C 3/14/2014 8:43:02 PM Report

The MoneySense article is not just about "money." And it isn't just a comparison between the Sault and Toronto. It compares a lot of cities, many of similar size to the Sault, and on a variety of factors.

Yes, WE believe the Sault should rank higher, but from an objective point of view, it would seem that things could be better.

@wife... not sure where you shop, or when you go shopping, but there are more than just grey-hairs with canes. And perhaps the Sault should be promoted as BOTH, a tourists destination AND a senior's community -- keeping in mind, tourists bring in NEW money, while seniors (as we keep hearing) are often on fixed incomes.
soowat 3/14/2014 10:35:50 PM Report

Add this to www.sootoday.com/content/news/details.asp?c=70044 and it's not hard to see why people move iutta here especially whe one throws in our reputation as the redneck capital of Canada. Right Joe Fratesi?
algoma terra ventures 3/14/2014 11:19:20 PM Report

yeah, the only good thing about the sault is the housing, cost of living, the great outdoors, lakes, etc. The bad is THERE IS NO NEW EMPLOYMENT HERE - FOREVER! SAME OLD, SAME OLD. If it wasn't for Essar Steel, OLG, the Strandboard mill, Hospital, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY EMPLOYMENT HERE. Try getting a job if you fit in/ don't meet the criteria. Employment here is brutal!
Outside Observer 3/17/2014 11:43:46 AM Report

@algoma terra ventures:

Your comments don't really seem to make sense...

"the only good thing about the sault is the housing, cost of living, the great outdoors, lakes, etc." - So except for all of the good (and probably one of the most important things - cost of living)... it's all bad. Could say the same about any other place...

"The bad is THERE IS NO NEW EMPLOYMENT HERE - FOREVER! SAME OLD, SAME OLD. If it wasn't for Essar Steel, OLG, the Strandboard mill, Hospital, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY EMPLOYMENT HERE." - So except for all of our big employers... there wouldn't be many jobs? That seems reasonable... doesn't it? They ARE our big employers...

"Try getting a job if you fit in/ don't meet the criteria. Employment here is brutal!" - Tell me one other place in the world where you can get jobs without meeting the EMPLOYMENT CRITERIA...?
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