HowAbooutSomeLogic 2/11/2014 10:21:58 AM Report
"Racial Harmony" sounds like a word a racist would use to talk about harmony.
"Why do you have to bring race into it, bro?"
Pakadeva 2/11/2014 11:10:04 AM Report
Sounds to me that they are promoting multi cultural events & "racial harmony" was the chosen wording. I believe it is a needed forum, considering all the racial slurs I have seen on THIS forum, many times. Folks need to learn & practice how to get along with all cultures, give peace a chance!
soowat 2/11/2014 12:26:15 PM Report
Racial Harmony means that we all understand that the only race is the human race. When that happens then the above question will be irrelevant
B Boy 2/11/2014 12:44:29 PM Report
I think we need a forum to discuss these forums.
rcssm69 2/11/2014 2:47:59 PM Report
Cause racism is where the problem is!!!
copper4 2/11/2014 3:20:57 PM Report
I dont have a problem with other races and cultures coming to Canada, but they need to embrace our existing culture and heritage. They cant continue to come to this country and create divide by forming their own small community and cities within a city. Some of them never even bother to learn how to speak English. I recently flew to Toronto and when I got off the plane, I thought that I had landed in a different country. I called a Government office the other day and I couldnt understand the lady speaking, I had to request someone that could speak English fluently.Its only going to get worse. There should be more stringent requirements for citizenship to this country.I know that if I went to live in another foreign country that I would not be given latitude that we seem to let newcomers have.
mr.monty 2/11/2014 3:28:05 PM Report
the problem I have is that when they move here they live in the same area of town and do not affiliate with anyone but there own race. they also take our kids jobs. close the borders until our people are working and there is an excess of jobs. people died in 2 wars so we can enjoy our freedoms. not give them away. I had 2 uncles die in the second world war. one in france and 1 fighting the japs. they would be rolling in their graves if they saw what we did wit the freedom that they died for! go ahead and cut me down for what I believe. but you will not change my mind! am I a racist? only I know that.
mr.monty 2/11/2014 3:30:04 PM Report
hey copper you were posting while I was typing. glad to see we are on the same page.
Slim Shady 2/11/2014 3:51:46 PM Report
“…I dont have a problem with other races and cultures coming to Canada, but they need to embrace our existing culture and heritage…”
Spot-On, Exactly. If I decide to move to Spain and live there I will learn Spanish and respect their customs and way of Life. I am sick and tired of minority, self serving, special interest groups trying to dictate what my children should be taught, what they should speak and what things they MUST embrace.
Don’t get me wrong, immigration is a good thing – when properly managed. In tight economic times, it should be reduced. Immigrants must prove that they are able to sustain themselves for at least 3 years without any government assistance. They must be made to become a Canadian citizen within 5 years of living here. They must be able to learn “functional” English or French within 5 years of living here. They must not be allowed in if they have criminal records for serious felony crimes (murder, larceny, grand theft, embezzlement, rape etc.). No government funding should go towards their integration (no special schools, signs etc.). You keep your unique customs and culture alive by teaching them AT HOME not in our schools!
When someone asks me who I am I don’t answer German – I answer Canadian. If someone asks me what my heritage is I would tell them I am of German decent, born here.
When you come here, leave you BS country’s problems behind. Quit using Canada as a safety skirt so that you can protest and fight a war from afar. The purpose of immigrating is to start a new, fresh, and productive life – not to continue a fight.
HowAbooutSomeLogic 2/11/2014 4:02:13 PM Report
I lol'd at that B Boy...
I'm not going to say racism isn't a problem,(clearly it is alive and well on this msg board every day) like I won't say cancer isn't a problem, but in both cases I think they are symptoms of much larger problems. You're not born racist or with cancer (usually?) and there are reasons each develops. I would even go so far as to say each is purposefully cultured within society towards some other, more sinister ends.
With racism, I think the goal is subhumanism, or getting people to believe that they are superior to some other subset of humanity -that a subset of humanity even exists! This allows for such things as war and materialsm/consumerism and basically just the total exploitation of other human beings. In other words, the things that make our world go 'round the way it does today.
HowAbooutSomeLogic 2/11/2014 4:05:12 PM Report
shady, monty and copper -
What is our culture? To tell someone (likely a fellow Canadian who asks you) you are Canadian tells them what, exactly, about your heritage?
HowAbooutSomeLogic 2/11/2014 4:17:07 PM Report
When someone moves to Spain, as in your example, depending on the area it is very clear what customs and language and whatnot are appropriate.
The foundations of Canada are Native and French culture and these are easily the least celebrated cultures for most Canadians!
So, on one hand you'll tell people you're Canadian, which means you come from a place of MANY different cultures and at the same time you despise the uniqueness and heritage of these same peoples.
You have a real identity problem that perhaps you don't realize.
....and Slim, c'mon! Take the immigrants out of the equation for a second -- you don't think special interests (ie. not your own) control what your kids are taught as it is? What is cool? etc? It's normal or okay with you that a love for consumerism is the one thing our kids have in common? That's not the fault of today's immigrants, clearly.
straightshooter 2/11/2014 4:28:19 PM Report
Yes, racism in many forms is visible on this site virtually every day.
It would appear that many people would do well to take some time to educate themselves about the cultures that share our great country, about the history of this great country, and how that history has shaped todays landscape. it would be really a fine thing if our school boards were able to teach the true history of how this country was formed, what legalcontracts and treaties were signed, and what those mean and provide for all of us. reread that...i said ALL of us.
I say this because the chorus racially motivated negative comments are from, seemingly, a consistent group of those who post commentary here.
a song i heard once, went like this....quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand....ignorance, prejudice, and fear go hand in hand...
Racial harmony ought to be how things are, and it would be that way, if people were a little more willing to learn, and respect different cultures and races.
amazing, because it is so offensive to see what people write under the mask of anonymity on here. mean, hatefilled, rants based on pure ignorance. Not by all, i know that, but there are a few real genuine haters that are quick to reignite the torch of hate with the flame of ignorance every time certain issues are in the news.
you can watch this same rhetoric every night on Fox news...or go online to see the far right (republican/GOP/tea party) and how they so desperately scream, holler, ridicule and despise anything and everyone who has a different look, religion, language,preference, name or opinion then theirs. Check out this stuff - and see how they do those things, then in the same breath, attack any country or person with a varying position. They scream freedom of speech and opinion at every opportunity, then slam everyone who sees things different then them! Hyprocritical... no?
Unfortunately, that same fear based mentality exists here too.
We ought to learn to embrace those who constructively and positively add to our cultural mosaic. And at the same time, be respectful to all.
copper4 2/11/2014 4:43:32 PM Report
Culture is defined as the characteristics of a particular group of people, defined by everything from language,religion, cuisine,social habits, music, arts and even employment. My culture is fluent in English and French,I listen to all types of music,My particular religion is Protestant but I dont hold one religion above another, My social habits are not exclusive to one group, I play sports, I hunt, I fish, I work hard, I treat my fellow Canadian, co-worker and visitors to this country with respect,I dont lie, I dont steal from anyone, I help my family and neighbors when I can, I volunteer when I can. You know what else, I am DAMN PROUD to be a CANADIAN ! I truly feel blessed to have been born in this country. I have read the history books and feel humbled by the accomplishments and struggles Canadians went thru before me.I feel a sense of pride and honour for the families including mine that fought in wars to keep these values in tact. This is My culture and you cant deny it.
ash 2/11/2014 4:44:39 PM Report
Hey Cooper Mr Monty Slim Shady I just bought some bleach white bed sheets! Care to join me at the next Klan rally? It's ignorant morons like yourselves that are the biggest danger to people in our community
copper4 2/11/2014 5:01:01 PM Report
Ash it is unfortunate you turned this into racism, its not about that at all, someone asked me what my culture was and I gave an answer. Maybe you should tell me what your culture is and means to you instead of insulting this Canadian.I will respect your opinion as all good Canadians do. Your entitlement to speak freely as well as mine is a privilege that was fought for long ago.
mr.monty 2/11/2014 5:13:54 PM Report
hey ash you may be a Canadian citizen but you do not sound Canadian. my mothers side is first nation and my das side was here since 1640. how many Canadians carry hand guns? we never had these problems 50 years ago. I brought a rifle on the school bus twice a week as I was on the school shooting team. try that now. oh yeah I had family die in the war of 1812. what did your family do for canada?
HowAbooutSomeLogic 2/11/2014 5:42:06 PM Report
well said, shooter
copper, sure we have freedom of speech on an SSM news website but that's hardly the case as a prominent scientist or member of the media. Would you not agree?
It sounds like you really love all of the things that various cultures have brought to Canada over the years but you draw the line at their languages, for some reason. In that one respect they should assimilate and speak 'their' language at home.
monty, Canada wasn't invaded from WW1 on, was it? The wars your family died in were orchestrated (to make a small few very rich) and your so called 'freedom' was never at stake to my knowledge, not even when you imprisoned canadians you call the japs. You're a slave to your masters now as you were before. Even our 'peacekeeping' missions of the last decade or so have nothing to do with peace or freedom; it just makes reality easier to swallow for the general population when we frame it this way.
You seem to support copper's views...this is what he said
"[immigrants] need to embrace our existing culture and heritage. They cant continue to come to this country and create divide by forming their own small community and cities"
That's exactly what your dads family did back in 1640! It was fine then, but it's not okay today, why? I mean, if you want to blame society's problems on today's immigrants it makes just as much sense to blame your daddy.
mr.monty 2/11/2014 7:43:09 PM Report
we are all entitled to our opinions. you have yours and I have mine. what has your family done for this country. or have you not been here long enough.
Jimssm 2/11/2014 8:19:16 PM Report
Unless you are a Native Canadian... you are an immigrant...
And NONE of us 'adapted to the Canadian culture'... we brought our own religion and language and kept it for the most part.
As far as new immigrants go, of course they are going to seek out their own kind. It's only years later that they will begin to mix with the general population. Most Italians in the Soo stuck in their own groups, went to their own churches and discouraged their children from marrying non-Italians. It took many years before that began to change.
soowat 2/11/2014 8:58:47 PM Report
I (like many other non-native people) was born in Canada. How does that make me an immigrant?
Jimssm 2/12/2014 5:00:17 AM Report
What I meant was ... your ancestors came to Canada and did the exact same thing our current immigrants are doing... seeking out their own kind, keeping their religion, cooking their own kinds of food, customs...etc.
Sorry, I should have been more clear.