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A tale of two drunkards

Sunday, January 26, 2014   by: Staff


On the 25 January 2014 City Police were called to the area of the Market Mall regarding a disorderly male.

On arrival the officers located a man in an intoxicated condition.

He was belligerent to passersby and refusing to follow directions given to him to stop his behaviour.

Despite being offered a ride to a more comfortable abode at the Detoxification Centre, his aggressive nature and intoxicated state gave officers no choice but to have the 42-year-old man spend the night at the City Police holding cells.

The man was charged with being intoxicated in a public place.

He will be released when he is better able to care for himself and no longer a danger to anyone else.

On the 25 January 2014 City Police were called to a business in the 100 block of Queen St East.

It seems an intoxicated female entered a business and vomited inside.

The bewildered staff called for assistance.

Officers located the woman, who was hardly able to stand, a short distance from the establishment.

The 25-year-old female was taken to the Police Station where she spent the night recuperating from her misadventures.

She was charged with being intoxicated in a public place and will be released when she is better able to care for herself.

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Retreaded 1/26/2014 9:09:59 AM Report

Just so sad that some folks can become that intoxicated.
Christina216 1/26/2014 9:13:01 AM Report

its sad that establishments serve them to this point.
Sam C 1/26/2014 9:18:34 AM Report

Christina... there was no evidence that they were served at an establishment. They might have reached that state on their own.
napper 1/26/2014 10:04:01 AM Report

that poor girl... no she should not of been throwing up in an establishment but i don't think she should of spent the night in jail how traumatizing. It doesn't say she resisted or cause any other problems.
napper 1/26/2014 10:09:47 AM Report

but they should of made sure she got home safe though not just leave her intoxicated... or made sure someone was there to help her home.
Christina216 1/26/2014 10:21:19 AM Report

im sorry SamC...let me rephrase that...i hope they were not drinking at one of our fine establishments and the properly trained smart serve certified servers did not overlook the amount of alcohol consumed by these upstanding citizens and let them leave in such a state that they could cause harm to themselves or someone else.
thesharr 1/26/2014 10:43:03 AM Report

How come no names,they print names for every other petty crime.Must be related to somebody in the public eye.
toady 1/26/2014 11:00:55 AM Report

Sorry for the employees who had to clean up the vomit. You how disgusting that smelly mess can be. Does anyone feel sorry for them.
TFinn 1/26/2014 11:17:02 AM Report

napper 1/26/2014 10:04:0

Cops are not a babysitting or taxi service for drunks ..!!
Frio 1/26/2014 11:59:15 AM Report

Napper sounds like you would prefer the police bring the drunks to you for more sensitive care? That way they aren't subjected to the possible trauma of being protected from harming themselves and others by spending some time sobering up in the police cells.
JellyFisch 1/26/2014 12:07:23 PM Report

Though the police aren't a babysitting service, it is their duty to protect the citizens from harm to themselves and others. When a police officer comes across someone who is on the verge of suicide, it is their duty to bring them in for assessment and to seek help.

That is what we pay police for. To protect us. When someone so intoxicated is unable to behave rationally, they can become a threat to either themselves (sleeping in a snowbank) or a threat to others (fighting).

Also if an establish didn't serve them to the point of intoxication like that, they were let in this way. This is the owners job to make sure either through hiring proper security to ensure they are not let in. Or do it himself.
Pakadeva 1/26/2014 12:37:36 PM Report


Pretty much the same response I was going to post. Traumatizing a drunk? Geesh! How about the trauma the staff of those establishments was put through?
You DO NOT take a drunk home so they can burn down an apartment building, beat up on people, freeze in a snowbank cause they leave the house again. The Police did the exact right thing in my opinion, for their sake & for us, the general public.
TFinn 1/26/2014 12:54:41 PM Report


The cops did assess .. yep...pissed thus they went into the drunk tank to sober up. Can't hurt themselves or others there.! They did what they could do ..!
Dictionary 1/26/2014 12:54:53 PM Report

good thing weed's illegal!
napper 1/26/2014 1:37:07 PM Report

while i do believe cops have better things to do than babysit and i feel for the person who had to clean it up i still feel bad for the girl who knows maybe it was a one time thing or maybe she is an on going problem doesn't say if so she deserves what she got but if not how traumatic for her. I also don't condone getting that intoxicated but it happens. In fact I can't stand being around intoxicated people but can't say i have never been intoxicated myself at sometime in my life not proud of it but it happened once or twice and no i am not a heavy drinker just young and foolish once myself.
napper 1/26/2014 1:41:03 PM Report

and i see your point about not leaving them alone to cause harm to themselves or others
willoweep 1/26/2014 2:22:01 PM Report

Hello ,It was -26 last night,
I would hope if it was Family member the Police would NOT leave them outside.

A night in Jail sure beats a night in the Morgue.

In that state of intoxication passing out in a snowbank is a very real threat.
napper 1/26/2014 3:29:39 PM Report

ok i give all good points but i hope if she had someone to call they would allow it.
bml69 1/26/2014 4:01:19 PM Report

Have mercy on people with addictions guys. Sootoday is bashing two innocent people who either accidentally misjudged how much they had to drink or have serious problems, and are calling them drunkards. How would you feel if you were being labeled a drunkard? The title of the article should be "A tale of two people who need support and love"
Hunter101 1/26/2014 4:10:12 PM Report

Christina, how about this. Why don't you make people responsible for their own actions instead of blaming a bartender.

For God's sake, it's because of people like you that I can't get a decent drink when I do make it out. It has nothing to do with the person serving. The law may have idiotic stipulations, but ultimately it's the person who throws them back who is responsible.

I guarantee you, the guy didn't get that drunk just by going to one of our less than satisfactory drinking establishments. He would have to have taken out a loan to get that drunk.
PuppyGirl 1/26/2014 5:08:04 PM Report

I worked in one of our 'fine' establishments when I was in my 20's, I did cut people off when I felt they had too much to drink. 30 years later I was sitting in a restaurant enjoying a coffee with my brother and the guy at the next table asked me if I use to work down the road & I said yes and he's response was 'I knew you were the B**CH that always cut me off. My response to him was 'yes and I would do it again to save a life, besides your 25 cent tip that you use to give me would not make a dent in the $40,000 fine that I would have to pay if you ended up killing someone.
PuppyGirl 1/26/2014 5:09:06 PM Report

oops *his* response not he's
iamtc 1/26/2014 5:13:55 PM Report

It's party time ... Or it was for these 2 drunks
Christina216 1/26/2014 5:18:54 PM Report

people like me? how do icause you not to get a decent drink? maybe the bartender you go to needs to be trained better on how to make drinks. if you have taken the 10 minute smart serve course you would know that its YOUR duty to make sure people dont drink such a crazy amount that their puking or cant walk for that matter. people like me...lmao to bad it wasnt 11 years ago..i would have told you to come to my place of work and id make you a great drink of your choice..i was one of the best bartenders in town..never did i ever let someone leave my bar in that kinda state...
SM-G 1/26/2014 5:53:02 PM Report

The police generally give people the opportunity to go to Detox rather than the “drunk tank”, unless they refuse, or there are other factors that they need to consider. They DID refrain from publishing the names (kind of them), and I would guess it is due to the fact that they were showing some compassion to someone who either a) made an error in judgement and has no previous issues, or b) someone that they are aware has a serious addiction issue and (sadly) is only a threat to their own safety.
Hunter101 1/26/2014 5:58:27 PM Report

Smart serve states a shot is 1 ounce.... Anywhere else in the world it's 1.5 ounces. When I ask for a double, I want 3 full ounces, not a chintzy 2 ounce drink.

And the prices of liquor make it even worse. Even if you get a properly poured drink, it's at an outrageous price.

That's one small example. Any bartender who pours a good drink doesn't use a metered pour either.
Hunter101 1/26/2014 6:01:04 PM Report

And who says it's the bartender's duty? The stupid Ontario bureaucrats? The joke of a bar tending course called Smart Serve?

Get real here.
Hunter101 1/26/2014 6:05:22 PM Report

But I am sure you could pour a decent drink, I'm not impugning your abilities. I'm simply stating Smart Serve and that whole line of thinking impedes good bartending. Plain and simple.
Retreaded 1/26/2014 6:37:23 PM Report

These two obviously need help...lets hope they get it soon.
Tag33&1/3rd 1/26/2014 7:20:13 PM Report

That's what the Detox place is for!
tcowen 1/27/2014 10:04:32 AM Report

Looking at some of these posts we seem to see the same handful of people bleatingly blaming 'the system' for a collective lack of common sense.. at what point do we hold people responsible for their own actions.

I swear some of these responses must be from 'agency' people looking to drum up more support for core funding.. we've become a nanny state, footing the bill for an entire generation of stupidity.

You get drunk, you puke, you get belligerent.. & you go-to jail.

It's not the bartender's fault, it's not the police's fault, it's not the business's fault.. we as a society have not failed these people, they have failed us.

The level of 'entitlement' in this town has become way too expensive.. we can't afford to support another generation of this.

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