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Remand centre employees rally behind suspended coworkers

Friday, January 24, 2014   by: SooToday.com Staff

NEWS RELEASE

ONTARIO PUBLIC SERVICE
EMPLOYEES UNION (OPSEU)
 
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Staff at Algoma Treatment and Remand Centre raise money for suspended co-workers

SAULT STE. MARIE - Members at OPSEU Local 678 at Algoma Treatment and Remand Centre (ATRC) showed their level of solidarity for their coworkers when they held a spontaneous fund-raising lunch barbeque on Friday, January 17, 2014 and raised almost $1,700 in support of Officers who were recently suspended for what the union claims was “doing their job as trained.”

On July 31, 2013 an inmate was being moved from the shower area at the facility back to his cell when it became necessary for the Correctional Officers to use physical force to direct the inmate to his cell.

In October of 2013 Ministry of Community Safety and Correctional Services (MCSCS) decided to investigate, two and a half months after the incident.

No reason was given for Ministry’s decision to investigate.

“The Officers involved in the incident acted in the manner they have been trained in with respect to their actions, written reports and conduct during the investigation,” said Ian Turpin, President of Local 678 at the facility. “Despite this, MCSCS has suspended two of the Officers and may possibly suspend a third, five and a half months after the incident.”

Turpin also points out that two of the Officers involved are part of the Institution Crisis Intervention Team, who receive additional training for incidents such as these.

Turpin says that OPSEU Local 678 members at ATRC will continue to support their coworkers, especially when their employer disciplines them for acting professionally in the course of their careers protecting Ontario’s public in the Ontario Corrections system.

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sinikka 1/24/2014 2:33:43 PM Report

Very sad day when the inmates have more rights than the employees who work for remand centres. Kind of a slap in the face to the workers if you ask me. Kudos for the support the fellow employees showed by this rally.
iamtc 1/24/2014 2:41:33 PM Report

Too much force was probably used poor inmates need hot showers and good food a place to sleep I feel so sorry for the way we treat prisoners
buddyjewel 1/24/2014 2:42:27 PM Report

Here's an example of the inmates running the asylum. If only the criminals got stiff sentences like this.
My respect and full support go out to all the hard working men and women of the Remand Centre.It must be a very difficult job!
iamtc 1/24/2014 2:44:03 PM Report

When I was in jail I used excessive force on my roommate
dandrew61 1/24/2014 2:57:19 PM Report

Agreed sinikka, just another example of how our justice system is far too lenient and too often comforting to the guilty. These people are there because they are incarcerated, not on vacation. When told to do something like moving from the shower to you cell you go, no if ands or buts. Unfortunately our system trains guards to respond when inmates don’t follow instructions, than disciplines guards for following their training. Our system quite simply sucks. When you’re in jail you do what you’re told or you suffer the consequences, or at least that’s the way it should be. Apparently it doesn’t work that way here. Hats off to the members of 678 for showing support for their fellow workers. Hopefully this will end well for the guards and the so called system they are employed to support.
boilertyme 1/24/2014 2:59:22 PM Report

The workers should all suddenly take ill and utalize a few sick days leaving the pigs in their stie. Sometimes I'm assamed to be Canadian , their F'n criminals , who doesn't understand this.
soowat 1/24/2014 3:06:04 PM Report

Would be nice to have both sides of the story
Frio 1/24/2014 3:07:57 PM Report

If the government was willing to hold inmates accountable for their actions, incidents of staff needing to use force would be greatly reduced. If an inmate can't follow simple directions to go for a shower and back to his cell without needing some guiding hands from staff, the problem is the inmate, not the staff, in this case ICIT officers who have specialized trained to deal with uncoperative, disruptive inmates. Pathetic when management makes a hard, thankless job even harder and more thankless.
roxaner 1/24/2014 3:10:26 PM Report

yes but i know for a fact some of them over abuse there powers...u have correction officers telling there kids "i have punished inmates for less then what u have done" so there is doing ur job and then theres the ones who abuse it.not all of them abuse just some irrogant sons of bitches
kaima 1/24/2014 3:18:01 PM Report

Its very disheartening to hear that criminals have more rights than their guards. What the hell are they in jail for????? they shouldn't have any rights!! What kind of a justice system are running in this Country?? Shame on the Government!
sinikka 1/24/2014 3:22:57 PM Report

i have no problem with some of them abusing their authority. Like some others here have stated, this is not the Holiday Inn Resort and Country Club. It is time we got a little tougher on crime and criminals. Perhaps they will not be in a hurry to revisit prison if they know that their time spent there may be a little harsh.
buddyjewel 1/24/2014 3:31:39 PM Report

The irony would be if the inmate was serving time for one of the many domestic abuse or assault charges you always read about.
Regardless, there is no need for any further investigation into the matter as I saw the whole thing unfold your Honour.
"He slipped getting out of the shower, End of Story!"

NEXT!
Mand 1/24/2014 3:47:33 PM Report

IAMTC-what?
Prrrrrrr 1/24/2014 3:57:10 PM Report

I'm certain the Ministry isn't going to hand out suspensions without just cause...let's hear the rest of the story!!!
ford2 1/24/2014 3:57:50 PM Report

"Despite this, MCSCS has suspended two of the Officers and may possibly suspend a third, five and a half months after the incident."
What kind of bureaucratic disciplinary system do they have there? Deciding to investigate an incident months after its occurrence and then suspending officers five and a half months after makes no sense.
Good management requires issues be dealt with as soon after as possible and that the discipline be appropriate. The suspensions may be appropriate but a delay like this will only breed distrust with the officers and have a huge negative impact on moral.
However we don't know all the facts here.
sportsman 1/24/2014 4:06:24 PM Report

THESE ARE CRIMINALS WHY SHOULD THEY BE TREATED LIKETHERE IN A RESORT.
dandrew61 1/24/2014 4:10:06 PM Report

In saying we only have one side of the story or we need all the facts is only giving the benefit of the doubt to the criminal and taking it away from the guard. I know some will think I’m wrong and that’s why we’ve ended up with this ridicules penal system to begin with. Bottom line is if you don’t do any crime you won’t do any time and you won’t have to worry about any of this and on that, no one can say I’m wrong. I think if you do the crime then you’ve given up your rights and with the exception of extreme circumstances of sexual abuse, you do whatever the governing body tells you to, when they tell you and exactly as they tell you or suffer the consequences and if that happens to be a Billy club upside the head then so be it. Don’t bind the hands of those we pay to be in charge of criminals and expect the criminal to learn from incarceration.
Pakadeva 1/24/2014 4:17:39 PM Report

Regarding the Remand Centre incident. If an inmate was not following direction/rules of the house, are they supposed to just let that person leave the facility to commit another crime against you, me, our families & friends? Criminals are being babied & the workers are being punished for doing their job! I'm with the employees. If their superiors want the job done differently, go in & hand out your baby powder & fluffs to them all, they make smother you with it, but, hey, ya gotta find something to complain about when people are actually doing their job right! (Yes, there's sometimes a bad egg, but usually their co-workers keep them in check).
roxaner 1/24/2014 5:44:16 PM Report

yes but if a criminal is in there for a petty crime whats it teaching them to be abused by a guard,that it ok to go around and hit another person cause they dont jump.i am against abuse in all ways whether ur a criminal or a guard assault is assault..but until u have both sides no one knows what happened all i know is some of them take their power toooooooo far...
divemedic 1/24/2014 6:41:24 PM Report

Very sad that staff and their H&S take another backseat to the criminals ' rights ' to attack and cause chaos inside the prison system. Far too much goes on behind those doors that puts the guards at risk daily. Kudo's to the Brothers and Sisters that stood up for the rights of their own. I wouldn't want your job, but I am glad you are there to do it. We need to step up and support the people who protect society from the P.O.S. that are in jail.
sinikka 1/24/2014 7:47:14 PM Report

roxaner these workers don't have any power over you unless of course you are in prison. It seems that you are giving the benefit of the doubt to the criminal with the tone in your posts. Just saying.
roxaner 1/24/2014 7:50:48 PM Report

im not defending anyone all im saying is some get carried away with there authority whether its at work or in there personal life i know i deal with a goof guard outside of his job and like i said its only some that go to far,and believe they r GODS
roxaner 1/24/2014 7:53:32 PM Report

i commend some of the employees who have to deal with ppl in jail on a daily basis cause it is hard work and dangerous but to become like the ppl in there is no better
Bouch15 1/25/2014 11:16:11 AM Report

I commend them too. They must be seriously awesome people.
rpy1958 1/26/2014 8:38:56 AM Report

I´m sure they didn´t remove him from the shower area for no reason. If he resisted in any way he was wrong. When a police officer says you are under arrest put your hands behind your back. Wether you agree or not you cannot resist him. It´s against the law. If he caused no trouble we would not be hearing of this event.
golfnuttt 1/27/2014 9:50:13 AM Report

The monkeys are running the zoo!!!!
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