Scott attempts identity theft, gets chargedWednesday, January 22, 2014 by: SooToday.com Staff
SAULT STE MARIE
Scott Erdman, 42 years old, of London Street was charged on January 14.
It is alleged that on the 14th of January the accused was found to be in possession of a stolen credit card and stolen identification.
He is charged with one count of theft of a credit card and one count of possession of stolen property under $5000.
Scott will be appearing in bail court this morning.
If you have any information regarding these crimes, or any other crime, call Crime Stoppers at 705-942-7867
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bounder 1/22/2014 8:46:27 AM Report
This looser needs his butt kicked.
engineguy 1/22/2014 8:58:56 AM Report
Can you say LOSER
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Tills 1/22/2014 9:38:16 AM Report
WOW thank you sooooo much to our courts.
Look at the wonderful job you have done.
I know he will be a good boy from now on so just give him some community service. How about a service to the community lock the shit up!!!
mr.jack 1/22/2014 9:39:09 AM Report
yet again another loser on our streets gets charged. , i bet your family is so very proud of you.
Moonshiner 1/22/2014 9:43:36 AM Report
second offence....mandatory castration!
buddyjewel 1/22/2014 10:11:59 AM Report
This guy is such deadbeat he doesn't even want to be Scott Erdma. This is why he has other people's identification on him.
So Sad he can't see real change comes from the inside.
amshld 1/22/2014 10:21:05 AM Report
i have known Scott since he was 14 years old...no direction no guidance and esp no love in his home...This is what happens to human being when they live a life of hell before the age of 7 yrs old. You have no idea what he has experienced and if you walked one day in this man shoes you may not be able to begin to understand how he is still alive today...stealing and living on the streets is all he knows... he has been doing it since a child. Jail will give him warmth and food through these winter months ..and that maybe one of his coping skills to get through each winter...we can all still back and judge him and call him a looser..however he is a human being I choose to call him a very sick man that need a lot of help
Retreaded 1/22/2014 10:21:52 AM Report
It is obvious this guy is in trouble in his personal life. Without the help he needs he will continue this way. It is sad there are no agencies willing to take someone like Scott on as a client. It is easy to call him and others like him LOSERS..but...they are really crying out for help and there is none. No...I do not know nor have I ever met this guy...just how I feel. these guys act up for a reason.
lambkins 1/22/2014 10:36:57 AM Report
Sure you can feel sorry all you want. I prefer to think of the victims of these crimes and I'll save my sympathy for them.
buddyjewel 1/22/2014 11:14:43 AM Report
I find it hard to believe that a person who has been before the courts and through the system countless times has never been offered any sort of treatment to rehabilitate themselves. At the risk of sounding too judgemental, at what point (age 42) does one start taking responsibility and stop being the victim of their own circumstances. There is help,take it!You owe it to yourself.
Koolaid 1/22/2014 11:29:11 AM Report
This has got to be his 100th criminal charge. He should get a parade or something? No?
mr.jack 1/22/2014 11:31:35 AM Report
are you kidding me, cry for help . give me a break. this is not a child . he's 42yrs old and if he can't stay out of trouble or knowing wright from wrong then that just ignorance.I don't know him either but rough life or no he can or should be able to decide wright from wrong
maybe its time to grow up
toodles 1/22/2014 11:40:59 AM Report
That's really funny because his brother seems to have turned out just fine, so I don't think your excuse for lack of love and whatnot in the home is invalid. He's a grown man and he KNOWS right from wrong...so please, move on to the next excuse you have for this fine outstanding citizen you call your friend. And yes, I also know Scott. And during the time we hung out, he was never like that. People like you who make excuses for people like him do not help. If you think he needs help, help him any way you can, but please just stop making excuses for his behavior because there is no excuse for it. None at all.
Slim Shady 1/22/2014 12:40:28 PM Report
He has had a rough life so what? Does that mean Society should give him a pass? How about all the immigrants who come to this country after being raped, beat, persecuted et cetera escape to this country and carve out a life to provide for themselves and their kids? They don’t resort to crime?
Crime is a choice not a circumstance. No one starves in a city like the Soo! There are food banks, soup kitchens, Church programs et cetera…. It is not perfect or easy but help is available to those who ask for it. I call Bull#$%@ to anyone that says otherwise!
It Life is not worth living to him perhaps Society should just euthanize him like a sick dog? If I caught him breaking into my house, his euthanasia would be a by-product of my right to self defense.
Life is only what you make of it. The more you put in, the more you will get out. The more time you spend doing something positive to better yourself, the sooner you will realize prosperity.
amshld 1/22/2014 3:10:39 PM Report
I do not feel sorry for him..I am saying I understand why he is the way he is...Just because his bro is all good does not mean he has to...everyone has different effects...what happens to one may not the other...and no he may not have been given any opportunity at all to use resources from the community..that is an assumption...and yes he is a grown up.. and knows right from wrong..however when people are sick and are unable to make the RIGHT decisions..
amshld 1/22/2014 3:13:55 PM Report
and to slim shady...i hope i never have to turn to you for help man o man ...or have to admit to you that I have made many mistakes..you would be the last person I would ever want to discuss anything with ...
sAUCEY 1/22/2014 4:19:45 PM Report
So when some breaks into your home and takes ur precious valuables away from you and more than that your sense of saftey and trust for your fellow man; your not goning to think he is a low life? Even if a man was beat and had to steal to survive as a child, that should only make u have a stronger want to succed and strive and make a better life for yourself. He is 42 no 12, he has a long rap sheet, he knows right from wrong.
His and people like him their attitudes are" poor me, i dont a highschool education so i cant work for more than min wage or at all, its everyone esle fault, not mine though, im gonna have another beer smoke another joint and go rob people cuz its thier fault im messed up no mine" ... sounds retarted, becasue it is. YOU make your own fate, YOU change your life, YOU make your own decisions (unless your married), And you are responsible for your actions; not your childhood when you are now a grown man and have been around the block..
D0BBER 1/22/2014 4:27:11 PM Report
If you bleeding hearts have issues with the word loser perhaps the word parasite would fit better. No matter the upbringing or loveless family history, no matter the situation every man is accountable for his own actions. This parasite has been and as history shows will likely continue to be a leach on society. The concept of locking him up isnt to make him a better man by learning from his mistakes ... its to give the rest of society a break and maybe protect them from being victimized by him !!
Shortz 1/22/2014 4:39:44 PM Report
A close friend of mine was kicked out at 13 and lived on the streets until he was almost 20. He's honest, doesn't get into trouble, and is an honorable guy. Growing up on the streets is no excuse to be a pretty criminal as an adult. Did I mention my friend also has issues with ADHD, and other health issues?
And. . "Smoking a joint"doesn't entice a pothead into a life of crime. The worst you can typically expect from a pothead is a bad case of the munchies.
Shortz 1/22/2014 4:42:43 PM Report
Slim Shady says:
"If I caught him breaking into my house, his euthanasia would be a by-product of my right to self defense."
This is Canada. You don't have a right to protect your property like in the USA. You harm even a person convicted of breaking into your house, you get charged with some type of assault.
amshld 1/22/2014 5:01:46 PM Report
Okay I have stepped up to the plate and made many many many changes in my life..and yes I have sat on the pity pot for years being the victim not the thriver.. and yes my house was broken into and my response was ..."if the people needed food or money all they would have to do is ask me ....not steal from me. Under no circumstance would I want to remove anybody genitals..DO I have a right to ensure me and my family safety yes I do and would definitely do that by contacting the police..or if i have to self protection..
WHAT I AM SAYING IS...BEFORE I CHOOSE TO LOOK DOWN AT OTHERS I LOOK AT THE ENTIRE PICTURE. Using Scott for example..I tend to think before i judge him and trash him I consider to look at his history and put that into perspective. Drug addicts are not bad people...they are sick people...Our society calls the drug addicts the scum of the earth..but I look at them as human beings not scum bags ...now all of you have the right to your opinion as I do mine. there are many many people, families and victims that are effected by these continuing crimes and I am NOT REPEAT NOT minimizing the families or the victims...however i choose to look at our sick people differently than you do...i don't know how trashing someone helps ..it doesn't ..it just makes things worse. And this also goes for people with mental health issues..again they end up in our courts system..and get bashed by the community when they truly need the community to help not trash...but you choose to judge and trash you are part of the cycle ...I will not and cycle will stop with me and I choose to advocate for those who hurt...
amshld 1/22/2014 5:03:38 PM Report
Shortz: Two different people two different life event ..that is comparing apple to oranges..just because your freind is all good..does not mean others are also???? How can you even to begin to compare???
amshld 1/22/2014 5:05:52 PM Report
D0BBER: your part of the problem not the solution
amshld 1/22/2014 5:06:58 PM Report
What does marriage have to do with decision making???
amshld 1/22/2014 5:53:41 PM Report
and one last thing....I believe we all need to be accountable for our actions..but I need to ask when our top people ( politicians, mayors, civil servants?) in our community is not accountable why do the sickest most unhealthiest poorest people do ..the law is the law..but as a community we focus on the weakest link...and kick them while they are down
sAUCEY 1/22/2014 6:33:49 PM Report
The marriage thing was a joke.
Now you stated that being addicited to drugs is a sickness.. i atend to disagree with you and many on that, NO ONE foreced these poeple to take there first line or shoot up, it was a bad choice. I smoke, i am addicted to nicotine, should i be classifed in the same boat, i have a sickness i need to have a ciggerate, if i dont have money i should go steal smokes becuase in your mind its okay becuase i am sick, NO! I chose to light up my first smoke and i choose to continue doing it..it's a consious decision i make everytime i have a smoke, just like these people doing hard drugs, they know its wrong but there want out weighs the need. Same with a woman who just needs to have the newest shoes, she has 5000$ in credit card debit becasue she needs the shoes, is it a sickness, can she go get ODSP for it? NO! its a choice .. life is choices make the right ones and you will be fine, make the wrong you will be killed. locked up, and/or insulted and publicy ridiculed for your mistake.. thats life. I have always said if you dont want people to talk about you behind your back then dont give them anything to talk about.
amshld 1/22/2014 7:12:08 PM Report
again like i said people will pick on the weakest link...so know we are cutting down the drug addicts are we???
when drug addicts are injecting drugs into their arms..yes it is a sickness..yes addiction is a disease...some are worse than others..I am glad to see that the only thing you are addicted to is cigarettes..so far...when these people (who inject drugs into their arms)when they were 4 5 6 7 years old they hope to be truck drivers, firemen, nurses doctors...just like everyone else..we have hope dreams and goals...they did not say as children ...when I grow up I am going to be a DRUG ADDICT!!!! yahooo...I am going to put needles in my arms!!! yes I cant wait!!!! I am going to be homeless live on the streets and steal from others and use others ID...that is my goal in life to be a drug addict!!!
Where in your right mind do you think that iv users... alcoholics... ect. have a choice????? It is obvious to me that you are completely uneducated on the topic of addictions,,,and strongly advise you to stop with your stigmatic ways..because people like you create stigma and stigma KILLS people. You have no clue..however you choose to put another human being down and trash them when you don't even know what you are talking about...Go back into your little world or go to Google scholar and read some update scholarly articles and educate yourself..you go to the library and read the book " Ghost of the Hungry Realm " written by Gabour Mate...
Frio 1/22/2014 7:48:45 PM Report
Did he get an award for his 25 years as petty criminal and parasite on society.How much has he cost for a wasted life in welfare, legal aid, court time, police time,social services,insurance claims, medical,etc?
sAUCEY 1/22/2014 7:54:46 PM Report
Tell me why it isn;t a choice..
Here is the deffination of choice:
1.act of choosing something or somebody: a decision to choose one thing, person, or course of action in preference to others
2.power to choose: the chance or ability to choose between different things
3.selection of things: a variety of things, people, or possibilities from which to choose
please refer to number 2 the power to choose.
Who is forcing them to do these things?! Why cant they go make a better life for themselves?
They can check into rehab..for free, get clean, then live in a shelter, go get educated with a highschool education for free, then like the rest of the world get a job to dave for school and become something...
I call people like youself an enabler. Sometimes people need "tough love".
The world isn't going to cater to you you have make your path.
I understand that addictions are a nurological disease, but sadly stupid isn't! But for an addiction to begin, the addict must of made a choice , and that choice was a stupid choice, and again stupid is not a disease.
Shortz 1/22/2014 9:14:21 PM Report
I compared my friend to this guy because you stated "stealing and living on the streets is all he knows".
Living on the streets doesn't require you to become a criminal.
"Jail will give him warmth and food through these winter months ..and that maybe one of his coping skills to get through each winter"
My friend hasn't spent one minute in a jail cell when he lived on the streets. There are shelters, there are plenty of places to get a meal. there's no reason for stealing in order to survive. Only excuses.
Your friend is another person that the system failed before his current activities have become habitual. And you're an enabler by just making excuses for his behaviour. Why not be a real friend, and help him break out of his criminal behaviour?
amshld 1/23/2014 6:25:32 AM Report
Okay...this will be my last post..
1. No I am not and far from and enabler..I make healthy boundaries and refuse to be caught in drama..( hence the reason why my last post)..
When I set boundaries I am very kind about it but I am also very direct. Enable kill people also...just like contributing to stigma...
2, Frio: your absolutely right..the cost is astronomical and and the government could cut a lot of these cost,,however they choose not too and stick with the same system that is not working. However I personally refuse to call anyone a parasite...again more stigma...Joggers get new knees and hips their addiction cost money too...
3. sAUCY I know the definition of choice and thank you...addictions not stupid it is complex, The most complex disease in our world..this disease had the most profound educated doctors scientist psychiatrist in the world scratching their head. The problem is within the brain ...I personally believe that for some people they are unable to recover is due to the amount of trauma a human being receives before the age of 10...When a person lives daily experiencing horrific trauma as a child they grow to be filled with fear guilt and shame...as they turn into adolescence stage the alcohol becomes their courage and best friend and takes away all memories and negative emotions... For some people they have the ability to stop go to treatment and arrest their disease...but for others the grip of addiction will not let go..In order to recover you have to be in the right mind to make a choice and for a lot of people they never get into that place..If Scott was to placed in my path I would reach out to him ,,However shorty saucy none of you answered my original question??? How does bashing someone help??? It does not ...all it does is it makes you feel better to look down at others because you have insecurities of your own..like I said ...your are strong enough to attack at the weakest link....calling other names gives you some kind release and allows you to take the focus off of yourself...and turn it towards others..Where the problem??? it is within yourself...between your ears. Again people stigma kills..your contribution in our society is making it worse...I hope you never have a child, good friend, or loved one that dies from this disease..because many many have and there is more to come...Is Scott hurting society yes..but your are just as guilty by feeding into it on our local website...did you ever think that people in our community who have loved one that suffer from this disease read your horrible comments...yes they do!!! and it hurts them..there are many many Scotti's out there///but society kicks when they are down..not help them..
Bad Dawg 1/23/2014 10:06:18 AM Report
there is all kinds of help for people in this situation. he is lazy, he doesn't want to help himself. some expect us to respect him because he is a "human being". then he should act like a human being, take advantage of of community groups that will help him find a job, a roof over his head, furniture and all he has to do for all that is GET UP EVERYDAY AND GO WORK FOR IT!!!! But no its easier to sit at an intersection with a sign saying need money for food because the welfare cheque went to the bartender or drug dealer. I have no pity for this loser, I know people that were in far worse homes (victims of severe child abuse) that have rose above any expectations.... why is this loser any different??
D0BBER 1/23/2014 12:43:36 PM Report
No Im not a part of the problem I only serve to provide clarity and focus to the problem. You on the other hand provide excuse after excuse for why the addict might have been lead to do any number of illegal activities !! An excuse only serves to provide knowledge on what lead up to the act, it doesnt serve to pardon the man from the act !!
The "I am an addict" card can only be used to lessen the blow of the legal system if the man is active in an addictions program, otherwise its just one more of a never ending list of excuses !! You post as if you are educated in addictions but you miss the mark on the most obvious of things !! People who are truly educated in addictions know the importance of recognizing fault in your actions and being accountable for those faults, they would be insulted in your attempt to use addictions as a safety net to excuse this mans actions !!