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Queen Street East set to reopen

Thursday, December 12, 2013   by: SooToday.com Staff

NEWS RELEASE

THE CITY OF
SAULT STE. MARIE

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Queen Street East open to traffic starting December 13

SAULT STE. MARIE - The City of Sault Ste. Marie would like to advise the public that Queen Street East from Simpson Street to Pine Street will reopen to traffic by 5 p.m., Friday, December 13, 2013.

Please be aware that there may be construction activity continuing on Queen Street East next week requiring periodic lane closures; however, the road will remain open.

Residents are reminded to treat work zones with caution and obey all signage.

The City would like to thank the public for their patience and cooperation during the road closure period for this important City project.

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flyhawk25 12/12/2013 3:02:39 PM Report

Finally.
If the city hires these clowns again then we deserve to get screwed for a third consecutive year.
buddyjewel 12/12/2013 3:10:21 PM Report

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
CB4 12/12/2013 3:12:13 PM Report

Wont it be closed in the spring again ?
whatstheproblemhere 12/12/2013 3:17:18 PM Report

Well, that's some good news.

What about Queen St. West down by the casino? That 6-week project was begun back in May.
bruno-b 12/12/2013 3:19:09 PM Report

I walked Queen street today .....who pours concrete sidewalks and curbs in freezing weather ... I can't wait to see how this settles in the spring time!!!! More bang for are tax dollar ???
Right Winger 12/12/2013 3:21:39 PM Report

WHAT ABOUT THE 6 WEEK PROJECT THAT BEGAN ON MAY 23RD ON THE AQUADUCT IN FRONT OF THE CASINO? YES I AM YELLING!
daddy frank 12/12/2013 3:57:46 PM Report

I wonder if the genius who gave the contract to Boyer Construction has learned anything. You would think after them screwing up two previous times, they would never get another contract from the city, Wrong! Maybe some changes should be made in the Engineering Dept. and other city staff so this does not happen again
Tag33&1/3rd 12/12/2013 4:05:27 PM Report

About Time!!! It took me 10 minutes to get outta my driveway today because of all the people ignoring the yellow/red light and blowing right thru the intersection of Wellington/Simpson Street!--please Queen St. crew stick to that street when it opens! Lol Wellington Street Drivers are much better drivers than the Queen Streeters! :)
Pictureman 12/12/2013 4:38:27 PM Report

Lert's hope that Friday nthe 13th is our lucky day so we can get right down town from the East End.
mallet 12/12/2013 4:55:49 PM Report

Daddy Frank..

Sorry. but it is not the people who set the rules who set the contracts, the rules specify that it has to go to the cheapest tender, not the best, and unfortunately you only get what you pay for. I have had this arguement with the MTO people time and time again with the road board I sit on, but all the tendering is out of North Bay and if the amount is over their limit it has to go for someone elses signature and then goes for re-tendering which is why nothing was done this year.
Wicket 12/12/2013 4:55:52 PM Report

Be cautious when driving west on Queen at McGregor Ave., street is still dug up and no traffic can get off of McGregor onto Queen.
Boyer Construction has had more than their fair share of problems on this job and not all of them were within their scope of the job, nor could they control the weather and the flooding that occurred three times in the summer and fall. That being said, there were issues that were within their control. Take a look at Woodward Ave when you drive by, that was a CITY job (not given to another company on a bid process). It is a mess!
And yes, Boyer Construction will be back in the spring to re-do some of the work, so be prepared for short-term closures then.
For the drivers that have been inconvenienced by this, be grateful you don't live in the area. Tremours through the ground, shaking cupboard doors open, causing items to fall off of shelves, crooked pictures and who knows what has happened to the foundations, let alone the NOISE!
In the end, new infrastructure and a new road, small price to pay for the future.
Uncle Ray 12/12/2013 5:34:25 PM Report

Mallet
The lowest tender does not have to get the job. There have been plenty of projects in this town that have not gone to the lowest bid!
GypsyLee 12/12/2013 5:34:52 PM Report

there seems to be too much on the go during construction season. maybe time to scale down and get less jobs done properly
soowat 12/12/2013 5:39:08 PM Report

bruno-b

Do you think asking if Boyer might ahve connections is a legitimate question?

R.W. Are you suggesting that when it comes to municipal government that S.S.M. is an acronym for Silly Screwed-up Mess?
CB4 12/12/2013 6:05:55 PM Report

Woodward looks nice, why did they tear it up at the end of summer and not finish, idiots
Retreaded 12/12/2013 7:31:12 PM Report

We need a year off from all those road work in the Queen street area. Are there road closures of this magnitude planned for next year?
flyhawk25 12/12/2013 7:32:39 PM Report

Yup.
Pine to west of the golf course.
pom4sale 12/12/2013 10:30:15 PM Report

I did some research and they got it wrong. This is the first and only project Boyer has not finished. However, others have not finished their projects currently and in the past.
Palmer Construction - 2008 - Shannon Road Reconstruction � project not finished � nothing said.
T.C. Contracting / Belanger Construction - 2011 - John Street Phase I � project not finished � nothing said. Boyer undertook the extra work under Phase II and completed on time in 2012.
Nearly all projects receive an extension to their completion deadline. Its common.
Avery Construction - 2011 - Pine Street Extension � 6 month project took 2 years - nothing said.
T .C. Contracting / Belanger Construction - 2013 Woodward Ave � no curbs � no sidewalks � no paving � and still going - is this project really finished? lol - nothing said.
T.C. Contracting / Belanger Construction - 2013 Queen Street Aquaduct Project � 5 months over the deadline and still going � nothing said.
atticus 12/12/2013 10:31:55 PM Report

Riverview to the west.
atticus 12/12/2013 10:34:52 PM Report

Oops, to the east.
Sam C 12/13/2013 7:23:21 AM Report

Wicket... thanks for a very level-headed assessment.

I believe most of the complainers would be even more incensed if roads that needed to be rebuilt were to be allowed to deteriorate even further.

The problem is two-fold:
1) we're still trying to catch up after 10 years of no tax increases, and
2) we've utilize bandage solutions over the years, simply redressing the asphalt and not dealing with the deteriorating infrastructure beneath.

For anyone who found Queen Street an inconvenience, wait until the City decides to rebuild the Black Rd-McNabb intersection, which is well past due.
R0FL0L 12/13/2013 8:26:19 AM Report

Stop complaining go out and do the work. You don't want brown water, you don't want pot holes you want you want. The summer was not a great summer for construction with all the crazy weather. Wow the rain we got.
As for Woodward the only mistake they made, they started too late, way too late. If they would have had the time the others had for Kohler!! Woodward would have been done and well done.
They are out there even this morning!! What is the windchill? -29?
Every morning the workers are out. In snow,rain, wind.
BUT I still wonder why they started so late!!??? Mid September they made the first hole.
So in spring they come back and do the lawns and sidewalks and other cosmetic things.
osirisptah 12/13/2013 9:51:52 AM Report

I'd bite your tongue if you are blaming Boyer for the delays. The city is who held it up. And lets face it, when you don't issue your PO's until June/July good luck getting any work done before snow flies.
Stevie-E 12/13/2013 10:20:02 AM Report

For those on both sides of the fence. Let me tell you a little story about how both parties are in the wrong.

First, I blame the city for hiring an inexperienced company to do the work. The procurement practices of hiring the lowest bidder needs to be looked at again. That type of thinking is like playing Russian roulette with our tax dollars. For large scale jobs that are prone to delays and cost overruns for poor planning, the tender should have been awarded to those with the most experience and track record of delivering a completed project successfully and on time/on budget.

Their safety and work standards were lacking and they hit not one, but two gas lines, the second knocking gas out for almost 600 homes in the area.

The project was poorly managed from the start and to be honest, Boyer Construction should not have bid on this job unless they intend to work overtime to make things right.

This was a mess and very disappointing to people paying very high taxes in the area. They should be getting a break on them next year.
Wicket 12/13/2013 11:34:37 AM Report

Two "fresh" port-a-potties just delivered in exchange for the "used" ones. Do you really believe that dug up portions will be cleaned up enough today to open the road.
With all the problems that they have already experienced, angry drivers whizzing by them next week is not going to help speed up the finishing of the job for this year.
Wicket 12/13/2013 11:35:35 AM Report

Stevie-E; did you not read Pom4sale's comments.
Stevie-E 12/13/2013 12:52:48 PM Report

@wicket.

I missed that but decided to read it. Thanks for bringing that to my attention, but it still doesn't speak to the fact that Boyer was inexperienced in this type of work. I was not privy to the details of the aforementioned comment on the other contractors, but as I do live in the area, I have been privy to some information through talking with different people and the consensus comes down to the lack of experience in this type of work.

I don't think Boyer was prepared to take on this project as a GC, and it showed on both phases of the project. They were just burdened with more issues this year with the gas lines, weather, etc.
daddy frank 12/13/2013 12:52:56 PM Report

about a month ago when Boyer asked for an extention and a delay in paying the $1000 a day penalty ( which city council is to review) for not being able to finish on time it was said then that this had happened two prevoius times before with this company
crashed13 12/13/2013 1:45:14 PM Report

They can take the "Road will be closed for six weeks" sign down now?

That was a long 6 weeks.
Wicket 12/13/2013 4:35:19 PM Report

Well Mcgregor Ave is now open to Queen St. however, as of right now, it is not paved, just filled with some type of granular substance. There was a 3 ft drop from the existing street to Queen when Queen was paved. McGregor had already been "levelled down" when the street and infrastructure was re-done 10 years ago. And yes, I live on McGregor and am very aware of most situations that have been occurring. I am not one to sit and wait for answers, so most often do my own investigating on anything that has a impact on me or my family.
Stugatzu 12/13/2013 8:25:29 PM Report

Boyer Construction is a non-unionized outfit that pays their crew significantly less, and as a result -- they were able to low-ball offer the bid.

As the age-old saying goes: "The cheap always comes out expensive."


Maybe after this time, the city will have learned to automatically reject any bids from Boyer. The can't meet deadlines.


In this particular case... they're even being supervised and monitored by Aecon... which should speak volumes about their work.... if you gotta be watched 100% of the time, you're doing it wrong 100% of the time.
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