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Fears about hospital cuts highlighted today

Tuesday, June 04, 2013   by: Staff

Ontarians worried about cuts to the budgets of small hospitals in rural and Northern Ontario took their issue to Queen's Park today.

NDP Health and Long-Term Care Critic France Gélinas says years of funding reductions have pushed such facilities "to the brink of disaster."
“Today, busloads of Ontarians have joined us at Queen’s Park, " states Gélinas in a news release. "They come from small, rural and Northern communities. They are here to bring attention to the deep cuts their hospitals are facing, in communities like Picton, Prince Edward County, Chatham, Wallaceburg, Perth, Smiths Falls, Iroquois Falls, Quinte West, St. Joseph and Manitoulin Islands, and the list goes on.”
Despite government claims to the contrary, residents and stakeholders say many of their hospitals are being forced to cut services as they try to stay afloat, Gélinas said.
She called on Health Minister Deb Matthews to address the looming crisis.
“Does the minister think it is her responsibility to provide hospital services to all Ontarians, or only those living in urban areas? Is the minister going to listen to the people who are here, who made the trip from rural, Northern and small communities, and finally work to protect these unique and vital small, rural and Northern hospitals?”

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Tag33&1/3rd 6/4/2013 6:26:49 PM Report

And we pretty well gave our old hospitals away. I will never donate to fundrasing for SAH again if they can afford to be so frivolous of everything left inside and pretty well giving the sites and land away.
tronx 6/4/2013 8:11:01 PM Report

I'm not sure if you're aware of not but there was a massive sell off of all SAH equipment not suitable for the new sites. All proceeds heading to Ministry of Health
Also, North Bay sold their empty site for 5,000.
Do you have any idea of the security, heating, property taxes, insurance etc etc that are required to keep a pair of vacant buildings sitting empty for sale?
For once take a second to look at the big picture before you spout off.
Lastly the SAH foundation has no input on the sale price of a MOH building.
willoweep 6/4/2013 8:24:50 PM Report

The reason the Hospital property was sold so cheaply is that a stipulation was made that the new owners would have to see to ,and pay for the dismantling of the building at an app cost of 2 million .

They could have held out for more money but as stated , it was costing money to maintain the buildings .

jojo12345 6/4/2013 9:33:38 PM Report

and we are in the hole for over 60 million way to go Sault Ste Marie
Ricatoni 6/4/2013 10:47:16 PM Report

The new owners are not going to dismantle these buildings. They are going to be retro fitted into apartments or condos, on the water I might add.The sale price 67,ooo is pending inspection for esbestos and other hazerdous material. Of course they will way the costs of cleanup and will then decide if they will purchase the property at 67,000. To me the city should have purchased the property at that price and tore them down. The property if the buildings were tore down would be worth a fortune?? I know one thing you will never convince me to live in those buildings retro fitted or not!!!!! As one blogger noted its not worth holding the property open trying to sell it costs are way to high.....tear em down and put in a sub division, water front property catches good taxes these days.....
dad 6/5/2013 7:51:15 AM Report

we have no health care as it is how can they cut what we dont have our doctor suck and our hospital care sucks were all going to die in the hospital waiting for health care. SAULT STE MARIE SUCK'S BIG TIME WE HAVE THE WORST OF EVERYTHING HERE
tronx 6/5/2013 7:57:09 AM Report

Go spend a week in Africa, before you cry about our rough you have it here.
Sure our health care system isn't perfect by a long shot, but everyone has access and for the most part we canadians live quite long.
If it wasn't for our vices (smoking, alcohol, obesity) we would probably have the longest life expectancy.
So in short, if you don't like it leave.
RobMel 6/5/2013 8:42:14 AM Report

I usually refrain from posting but I'd like to comment today.

The Hospital site did sell for $65,000. Shocking YES! However if you read further into it, The cost to dismantle the old site will cost an upwards of 3.5+ million to remove it in a way that does not damage the environment. I would also like to point out that YES the building is being torn down as per their agreement. That building cannot stay up. Also there have been a few mass sales on the items that were left behind, the equipment left behind is not obsolete. In order to provide top care to their patients they had to upgrade. I would also like to point out that on the edge of the property is apparently a number of oil tanks that were used many years ago to heat SAH. These need to be removed as well. However this could go VERY badly and seep into our river. Again another HUGE cost of apprx 3.5 million to have these removed. Not to mention to possibility of a disaster. Remember that the new "owners" now have ALL the responsibility on them now. If anything goes wrong in the demo/removal it is solely on them. So to recap, you have $65,000 for the property, Appx $3.5 mil for demo and another $3.5 mil for the oil tanks and property taxes I wont even pretend to know. So that brings the new owners to $7+ million JUST to get the property empty and ready to build on. This doesn't include insurance and the cost of the new buildings they plan to put there. I know it seems unreasonable to sell for such a low cost, but this is not an uncommon standard when buying property like this. If your unhappy about the condos going up, that is an issue all in itself. For the SAH to finally wash their hands of this property will only benefit our community, this will free up much needed funds that were being spent on insurance and property tax plus other things. :)
RobMel 6/5/2013 8:43:47 AM Report


*The equipment left behind IS obsolete.
frnlak 6/5/2013 12:48:52 PM Report

The old hospitals will probably come down before Northern Brewrey.
Stugatzu 6/5/2013 3:29:48 PM Report

Actually, there were quite a few things left behind in the old SAH site that were not obsolete. The powers that be simply felt that ordering and restocking was simpler than removing the material from the supply rooms.

Numerous quantities of gauze, bandages, surgical sutures, sanitized surgical supplies, and things of that nature were left in supply rooms on various floors and departments within SAH.

Equipment that doesn't go obsolete was left behind... because it was more convenient to reorder supplies, rather than transfer them to the new site.

I know this first hand as my Mrs was one of the last people working out of the Plummer side, and they were locked out of accessing the supply rooms on the General Side -- and were left without supplies for their patients.
Lovethenorth 6/6/2013 1:42:01 PM Report

Why are people so focused on the old hospitals? Who gives a crap! What we should be focused on is the fact that old and sick people are lying in hallways at the NEW hospital because the ministry won't fund enough beds! This is outrageously cruel AND unsanitary. We should all be writing the minister of health as well as David Orazietti!
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