brandonchantal 3/22/2013 8:09:53 AM ReportWow more and more crime some ppl need to get jobs and stop robbing the ppl that work hard for there shit
Moonshiner 3/22/2013 8:15:12 AM ReportThats just great...if the poor guy did have smokes,I dont imagine the outcome might have been any better.
pokey 3/22/2013 8:17:28 AM ReportShould be an eye for an eye. These clowns should be stabbed and kicked in the head for their punishment. Not put in jail and back on the streets in a couple of days to terrorize the city again.
rcamp211 3/22/2013 8:18:33 AM Reportoff to the gun shop i go!
tube 3/22/2013 8:23:19 AM Reportmore skum of sault ste marie, we will find you , your time is up, i'll be on queen street looking for you clowns
mudrunner 3/22/2013 8:34:47 AM ReportDoes Queen Street West not have cams on all the polls?
TFinn 3/22/2013 8:36:07 AM Reportdrugs ....when you need'em ....anything goes..!
Cranny 3/22/2013 8:49:10 AM ReportNever mind drug problems!!! There is no excuse for this shit!! When are the cops and the justice system going to do their jobs and punish these people with the right offences and PUT THEM AWAY!!
Enough with the slaps on the wrist!!! Its going to keep happening if they are going to get petty jail sentences. They come back out after their 6 month sentence and do the same shit that they were doing before they went in. Its come to the point where people are going to have to protect themseleves and do whatever they have to to keep their families safe!! Better hope one of you slime balls don't come to my house because you won't be walking out, you'll be coming out on a stretcher. Or even worse!!
iamtc 3/22/2013 8:50:31 AM Reportit happend across from westside and it was a big knife. I was looking for the crack head last night the polkce tried there best but the dog was going in circles
MaximusPrime 3/22/2013 8:56:07 AM ReportHere’s an idea that would save us all a lot of money and probably eliminate a lot of the “problem people” in our society at the same time. A program should be set up where the government just gives these stupid people the drugs they want. They should get as much as they want (for free). These drugs can be produced cheaply. The only reason they are expensive is because they are illegal. With free drugs, they won’t rob anybody. Plus the drugs street value will become zero (since it’s available for free) therefore the black market will lose its biggest money maker. As an added bonus, all the stupid drug addicted repeat offenders will either be at home, stoned out of the mind, or in the morgue. With this program in place, we could probably lay off ½ of the police force, our insurance rates would go down (due to reduced crime/theft)……. Just an idea.
Prrrrrrr 3/22/2013 9:04:41 AM ReportMaximusPrime...they have that, Methadone Clinic.
polaris 3/22/2013 9:05:16 AM Reportlol @ tube. Are you batman? I'm sure they're so scared now knowing a commenter on sootoday is after them!
rcamp211 3/22/2013 9:07:37 AM Reportgot to be losers.wont get a job,use a knife on an old man,kicked him in the head while he was down with knife wounds.#1 losers.
MaximusPrime 3/22/2013 9:09:01 AM ReportThey do have a methadone clinic, but that is obviously not what I am talking about. You must conform to many rules to remain within the methadone program (a difficult thing to do for most addicts) and the methadone is given in a restrictive/controlled manner thus not impacting supply/demand aspect of the larger drug problem in any real way.
25miller 3/22/2013 9:17:20 AM ReportThe city has to realize that they have to up their police force and get some officers to do night street walking.Stop wasting money on things we do not need.All that tax payers money on the board walk and we can not even go down to it at night and feel safe.Shame on the city for not doing anything about this crimes.
outcrop 3/22/2013 9:18:32 AM Report@ rcamp..59 years old is not an old man..unless you are 12.
Kevin5069 3/22/2013 9:18:34 AM ReportWhoever they are, I'm sure they've been in the news before. And I trust our justice system will swiftly get them on probation and back on the street so we can read about them again next week.
25miller 3/22/2013 9:20:49 AM Reporthttp://www.saultstar.com/2013/03/22/killer-released-to-sault-family?utm_source=addThis&utm_medium=addthis_button_facebook&utm_campaign=Killer+released+to+Sault+family+%7C+Local+%7C+News+%7C+Sault+Star#.UUxYQEbfRdc.facebook
Great...Dump more scum in the Soo...We all ready have enough of them...
JustMe1234567 3/22/2013 9:35:02 AM Report25 Miller- what the HELL is that?? He stabbed someone 80 times?? Am I reading that right?
Ok I need to wake up..I think I'm dreaming hat a guy stabbed someone in Sudbury 80 times and is now in our community!
rcamp211 3/22/2013 9:35:56 AM Report@ outcrop 59 is old if you are in your early 20's, that could have been the reason he was jumped/stabbed/kicked.those losers would not have the guts to do it to someone there own age.
Prrrrrrr 3/22/2013 9:38:40 AM Report...maybe someone can clue Maximus in
Prrrrrrr 3/22/2013 9:43:21 AM ReportI bet this man was coming from the casino maybe he won some cash...not unusual for crazies to stalk people at a casino...
crashed13 3/22/2013 9:50:20 AM ReportI agree make all "hard drugs" free to all junkies (Tax pot though).
Then they will not even leave there crack house until they over dose.
"Here,s a bucket of Heroine,enjoy".
MaximusPrime 3/22/2013 9:52:03 AM ReportTo Prrrr: Maybe you should study the effects of prohibition over the last 100 years .... then you might have a clue.
Nats85 3/22/2013 10:10:43 AM ReportPrrr what are you even talking about????????? Why does it sound like you're "sticking up" for them? WEIRD, anyways, I agree with all those you think that these people should be given jail time, PERIOD. No option for bail either. They have a term called "Career Criminals" that they use, which if you think about it is SAD. HOW do you ALLOW someone to be a CAREER CRIMINAL?? By constantly allowing that individual to have a slap on the wrist and back into the community repeatedly. There would be no such "career" if they locked these men and women up after each offense. But some argue that jail/prison is just like University for new criminals...they learn off of others in jail etc. Someone once suggested that they create prisons WAY in the bush or way up North and make it so they EARN their meals and they EARN their "bug repellant" and they EARN heat for their cell etc. I think that's a GREAT idea personally...lol. Most definitely don't "reform" to become contributory members of society from jail that's for sure..something has to change.
Naomi B 3/22/2013 10:14:55 AM Reporthttp://www2.macleans.ca/crime-chart/
Canada's most dangerous city's... This was done in 2011 only two years ago..Sad thing is Sault Ste. Marie ranks 32nd and Toronto ranks 52nd.. Everyone thinks That a metropolis is so much worse than our "small town that's great to raise a family in." Guess not, I'm young 25 years old i have a young daughter who is just over a year old, and honestly I do not want her getting to know the neighbor hood kids. I want to take her and move.. The Sault is nothing like it was when I was a kid, its pretty awful.. Just makes me kind of give up on the human race.
Koolaid 3/22/2013 10:18:29 AM ReportI haven't seen one substantial drug bust here in the sault in years. They must try to get the larger Cocaine dealers, and not let them off if they roll on the smaller dealers. The police allow this so it looks like they are making busts and doing thier job, and keeping thier informant. This Cocaine and drug trade in this city is crazy ,this is what is causing all the crime.
tube 3/22/2013 10:22:48 AM ReportPolaris, is that you , watch your back , you should be scared ,were not going to take this crap anymore , queen and gore sound like a good place to hang out at night now.
Prrrrrrr 3/22/2013 10:23:01 AM ReportI thought we were talking about free drugs!
I know what you are saying...IN MY OPINION there will never be legal drugs.
We are a civilized society and we hire people to make sure it stays that way...
Legalize booze,people then want pot, legalize pot, they will want cocaine, and it goes on and on...
It would put too many people out of work and it would cut deeply into our economy!!!
What really gets me is that it's not really hard to get away with organized crime in this country when you can be a drug dealer and say your income comes from being lucky at the casino!!!
Too many casinos and I feel the casino in this town is part of the Gore Street problem...a large part!!!
zartan 3/22/2013 10:26:41 AM ReportWhy does everyone spell "their" t-h-e-r-e?
MaximusPrime 3/22/2013 10:29:13 AM ReportNo matter what law enforcement or the courts do, drugs and drug users are here to stay. People have been using druge for 1,000's of years. In 2009 the Economist said "This is not for want of effort. The United States alone spends some $40 billion each year on trying to eliminate the supply of drugs. It arrests 1.5m of its citizens each year for drug offences, locking up half a million of them; tougher drug laws are the main reason why one in five black American men spend some time behind bars. In the developing world blood is being shed at an astonishing rate. In Mexico more than 800 policemen and soldiers have been killed since December 2006 (and the annual overall death toll is running at over 6,000)." There is no perfect solution, but there is a better, more cost effective way. The current strategy is counter-productive.
jojoe71 3/22/2013 10:29:29 AM ReportIt could go back to the wild west days with everyone packing a gun for protection.....come to think of it isn't that what the americans do now.... I always like that old proverb.....walk softly but carry a big stick....Seems like the Sault is experiencing a higher than normal low life crime spree. We need a Charles Bronson death wish type of person. Sounds like a couple of you are gearing up.
soothunderbird 3/22/2013 10:32:54 AM ReportMaybe these places should NOT be open after 11 pm. It seems that the only customers these stores get are the jobless whimps anyway.
dad 3/22/2013 10:37:27 AM ReportThe downtown area is not safe anymore you put your life in danger everytime you go there gonna have to bring weapons with you to go shopping soon, or move to Iraq its probably safer there
Moonshiner 3/22/2013 10:52:06 AM ReportHey people...sure it looks and sounds bad...but if you think its bad here...do a little research and you will find that our city is only in the developmental stages of criminal activity.
DazedAndConfused 3/22/2013 10:56:08 AM Reportlol at zartan
and creeman junkies and criminals of all colours occupy our justice system
and for the rest of you blaming the police
a) police don't force people to commit the crime, the criminals take care of that all on their own
b) police can't possibly witness every crime as its occurring, that's what the investigation is for
c) police catch 'em... judges let 'em out
that is all
Alfie 3/22/2013 10:59:25 AM ReportAny place in town sell bear spray or something similar? I'm thinking it would probably be a good investment for a senior or for someone who needs to move about this scum infested area of town. Not that this kind of thing can't happen anywhere else. Truly sad we as good law abiding citizens can't enjoy freedom of mobility on a clear spring evening without feeling intimidated or threatened with harassment or violence. Since we cannot carry other weapons for our protection, knowing how to use a can of bear spray could just be the necessary fix. A can of bear spray in a woman's hand is better than a cop on the phone.
Nats85 3/22/2013 11:12:49 AM ReportPutting a weapon in everyone's hands definitely is not the answer. If you are raised with the knowledge that a gun is for shooting a human, that is what it will be used for. People raised to know that guns and knives are tools for hunting and fishing etc. are usually the ones who use a bat or hockey stick (or their own fists) for protection. Drugs are and always have been a problem, but there hasn't been so much violence as there is now in this city. UNLESS, and this is what I think, the MEDIA is a VERY strong presence in today's society. They have alot of power as to what we are aware is going on in our city and all over the world. News today is full of violence and celebrity sightings. lol...sad but they rarely cover heroic efforts (unless it was posted on youtube and gone "viral") now a days WE can be the media and what we want covered is covered. People become obsessed with the crazy crap happening and they SEEK it, supply and demand! The media just continues to feed us what we want. Not to say this city ISN'T starting to become more crime ridden, but the more our government continues to do more harm than good (financially and environmentally) things will continue to go down hill. Pretty scary to realize the world my children are growing up in, is it really THAT different than the world I was raised in? Or is just so in our face all the time because of technology that it only SEEMS worse?
Prrrrrrr 3/22/2013 11:19:05 AM ReportJoe's Sports, Trading Post and be careful I sprayed myself twice now lol...not a nice event. I started to carry it because my dog and I were attacked by four dogs not long ago! By the small one for dogs...the big cannister is for bears will probably get you into trouble rather than help you out. I recommend not walking at night and don't carry a purse...keep your cash and cards in a pocket and as they always say, don't flash your cash!!!
Prrrrrrr 3/22/2013 11:23:17 AM ReportIf you win at the casino take a cab home even if you are within walking distance, if you are going to the parking lot have security walk you!!! If you win a large amount of money...have a cheque issued!
MaximusPrime 3/22/2013 11:29:12 AM Report“It is criminal to steal a purse. It is daring to steal a fortune. It is a mark of greatness to steal a crown. The blame diminishes as the guilt increases” - Schiller (1759-1805)
Prrrrrrr 3/22/2013 11:40:52 AM ReportHey Max...You just described the Harper Government!
Alfie 3/22/2013 11:43:50 AM ReportPrrr, thanks for the good advice.
Nat...As I can see and agree with many of the points you have made, I still feel that any responsible, law abiding, contributing citizen of society with sound morals should have every right to protect oneself and their family from anyone who wishes to do harm to them. Besides, who would ever know that you carry a can of bear spray on you except the low life, habitual offender that tried to infringe on your rights by harassing you or threatening you with violence. I'm sure we would all be feeling a bit more this way if we had witnessed the effects of the attack this unlucky gentleman sustained last evening.
MaximusPrime 3/22/2013 11:47:18 AM ReportSchiller described every government/ human on the planet. Generally, we as a species are corrupt to the core.
Nats85 3/22/2013 11:53:14 AM ReportI used to live in a very large city in the U.S. where there were shootings at the corner of my street at the gas stations and things like that. I, in NOW WAY, felt or still feel the need to carry a gun. WHY? Again, because I was raised by a family where the men hunted and I had knowledge that it was used for this purpose. Just because others choose to use guns for other purposes doesn't change the way I feel about them. It's a scary thought that everyday people want to carry one for protection. Those people wouldn't have the proper respect instilled into them about that weapon. You may be overwhelmed with your new sense of power and security and misuse it as well? Or you may be too cautious and be one who pulls the trigger too quick and "jump the gun" and react and then you yourself are charged with a terrible offense.
Nats85 3/22/2013 11:58:49 AM ReportI don't believe we as a species are corrupt to the core. We as a species follow or lead. We cannot ALL be followers or ALL leaders. That is why there will always be conflict and rebellion and fear. Those who follow, often times fear when someone else comes in to lead. Fear can cause people to do very outrageous things. Fear is a very strong emotion. The fight to be a "alpha" will never go away, someone will always feel that their way is the right way. The followers will begin to form groups and fight for their beliefs under who they choose to follow...I don't believe we are just naturally "corrupt".
Tag33&1/3rd 3/22/2013 12:05:12 PM ReportLook for a duo that has been charged before for theft etc..
Tag33&1/3rd 3/22/2013 12:07:55 PM ReportAt least nobody blamed the police or said they were at donut shop this time!
Alfie 3/22/2013 12:18:56 PM Report"Hey Mister...got a cigarette?"
"No. Sorry."
"In that case hand over your wallet."
"No. How about a taste of this bear spray instead!"
How would this be considered irresponsible? I see it as protecting oneself.
Alfie 3/22/2013 12:33:32 PM ReportIn hind site I would think that the gentleman who could have easily been killed last evening would have wished that he had a method of protecting himself against these 2 lawless attackers.
Snowdon 3/22/2013 12:38:55 PM ReportFacepalm at the comments once again.
misskickz 3/22/2013 12:40:56 PM ReportAND THIS IS WHAT ARE CITYS COMING TO!!!!! THIS IS WHAT PPL SHOULD BE MORE WORRIED ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!SICK PUNKS! LETS GO ROB AND STAB PPL THAT MAKES U LOOK BIG !!!!!!
W. Yote 3/22/2013 12:42:09 PM ReportUnbelievable we cannot carry pepper spray or tasers to protect ourselves. This would be considered a prohibited weapon if used on someone attacking us or even caught with it where there is no real threat of a bear attack possible $500k in fines and jailtime (yeah, the criminals dont get squat, but if you try to defend yourself from one look out! . Either start handing out meaningful punishments or let us defend ourselves. This is what Liberal and NDP governments do for you! protect the criminals!
Cam 3/22/2013 12:45:09 PM ReportWhen these scum see all the weapon crimes not being solved or receiving no punishment they follow suit...easier to rob someone with a knife or gun...gotta agree with the Charles Bronson theory...if nothing ever gets done,,,why should they stop.
Alfie 3/22/2013 12:48:05 PM ReportAny judge that would impose such punishment on a law abiding, contributing citizen to society that is defending oneself against 2 knife wielding attackers should be publically lynched for breaching their responsibility to uphold the laws of a civilized society.
yoyo165 3/22/2013 12:57:15 PM ReportCreeman, in your post you note:
"If the person was native not a question in there mind to not release a white boy."
I'm assuming what you mean is that police would release a 'white boy' but continue to detain a native?
I'm not saying you're right or wrong, nor am I going to try to say that individuals don't act in unfortunate ways, but here's a couple facts:
The justice system, NOT the police determine punishment and when one can be released.
Second, you may wish to resarch the 'Gladue Principle' which for minor crimes can(but not always) result in reducing or altering one's sentence based solely upon the fact that the accused is aboriginal.
Norm 3/22/2013 1:03:47 PM ReportAgain, let the Harper people know, make the streets safer. These blogs won't help.
PuppyGirl 3/22/2013 1:13:43 PM ReportI've always said: 'If you kill someone with a weapon, it should be 'life without parole' (life means life, you die in jail) and if you injure someone with a weapon it should be 'attempted murder', 25 years, no parole. People tell me we can't do that because we don't have enough room in jails, if we start doing this people would think twice and we wouldn't have as many people in jail.
Dead End Kid 3/22/2013 1:22:38 PM ReportWe need a couple of Charles Bronson type characters to even the score with the punk ass pieces of scum that mess with our innocent citizens. Maybe these these ass wipe cowards would crawl back into their rat's nests'.
Alfie 3/22/2013 1:24:59 PM ReportSimple logic such as the kind that PuppyGirl refers to in her post is in my opinion what is needed by our politicians and lawmakers. I think we can all agree that stricter penalties for individuals who are found guilty of violent crimes are necessary. You would be sure that there would be a sharp reduction in the incidents of reoffending.
yoyo165 3/22/2013 1:32:02 PM ReportUnfortuneatly if these people thought twice they wouldn't commit the crime in the first place. I don't think there's a corelation here, and as far as I know the death penalty hasn't reduced violent crimes in Texas or other states with it.
On the surface, the solution is quite simple: Put more cops on the street and build more jails: Just don't complain when either your taxes go up or other critical services are reduced.
Alfie 3/22/2013 1:47:23 PM ReportI can understand your logic YoYo however our taxes are continually going up and the level of services are continuing going down. Meanwhile our community continues to deal with greater levels of crime. Even more reason to give the law abiding citizen a means to defend themselves. The police cannot be everywhere and we cannot reasonably expect them to be there at all times to protect us from violence. At the same time, I will not allow myself to live a reduced quality of life by fear mongerers who will tell you to stay at home and lock yourself in your house for 24hrs out of the day. We start doing that and the criminals have won.
Just Curious 3/22/2013 1:49:30 PM ReportJust in case all you people that are bitching about the police are interested,they have arrested the two responsible for the attack on Queen st last night. The other news sight works weekends....;)
firefly42 3/22/2013 1:59:35 PM ReportOMG! What next! Something seriously needs to be done! The Soo used to be a place where robberies and stabbings didn't happen, or if they did it was once in a blue moon. Now Robberies are a daily occurrance.
I hope they catch these 2! They are the lowest of the low!
I feel so bad for the victim. Hope he heals quickly!
PuppyGirl 3/22/2013 2:17:18 PM ReportGood Job SSM Police!!!
Sault Ste. Marie Police Service:
Shortly after 11 am this morning officers from Investigation Services arrested two persons for this robbery.
A 21-year old male has been charged with one count of robbery and three counts of breach of probation.
A 16-year old female has been charged with one count of robbery.
The male's name will be released later today.
The male victim remains in the hospital where he is being treated for non life threatening injuries.
The male victim had been confronted around 11:30 pm on the 21st of March. The suspects demanded the wallet from the victim and when the victim refused the male suspect pulled out a knife and stabbed the victim. It is alleged that the female suspect kicked the victim in the head while he was on the ground.
FunMan 3/22/2013 2:17:18 PM ReportLooks like Mayor Debbie has a lot of work to do in order to make the Soo a Sr. Friendly City.
Alfie 3/22/2013 2:20:07 PM ReportKudos to the police for finding these two cowardly low lifes. Unfortunately I have a feeling that we will be reading this bandits name again in the media once our lame justice system has finished "rehabilitating" him.
Alfie 3/22/2013 2:24:59 PM ReportAs per the details published on the other local site, - Only charges of robbery and breach of probation for this turd? No charge of assault with a weapon for stabbing the victim? Am I missing something here?
soothunderbird 3/22/2013 2:28:54 PM ReportYou people who think guns protect must be on drugs yourself. If this was in the USA the robber would have had one!!!! Have u dummies watched CNN lately....
PuppyGirl 3/22/2013 2:42:13 PM Report"Unfortuneatly if these people thought twice they wouldn't commit the crime in the first place."
YoYo are you serious about this comment????
ten35 3/22/2013 2:45:06 PM ReportOK Brian Hayes and David Orazietti! Time to get out of the trough and make changes which will protect the honest people of this town. I believe that either of you politicians would take the matter more seriously if one of your family members had to face the life changing circumstances brought about by the criminals in this town. How about it? Have you the guts to act?
icemantbi 3/22/2013 3:03:24 PM ReportWhat the hell is going on with this city? Every day there is another violent crime committed. Sault Ste. Marie used to be a very safe place to live and raise a family, now, not so much.
MaximusPrime 3/22/2013 3:10:30 PM ReportOne of the greatest delusions in the world is the hope that the evils in this world are to be cured by legislation.
rcamp211 3/22/2013 3:20:57 PM Reportthings are not that bad in this town.i left a brand new pair of work boots on my front steps last night and the boots where still there in the morning.
Krusto 3/22/2013 3:30:47 PM ReportHow about he judges grow a set and quit they're usual BS rhetoric "if I ever see you in my court again, I can assure you it will be a different story".....and let's not forget "if it went for the agreement between your council and the Crown, I would have sentenced you to allot longer time"...come on, who are you trying to kid? And you know what you can do with your intermittent sentences.......
Give them Federal Pen time of at least 5 years, NOT including they're dead time and see if they think about doing it again, if so....then double or triple it....we certainly wouldn't want to step on the rights of the criminals do we.......
Just Curious 3/22/2013 3:37:45 PM Reportrcamp211;;;Now that was funny....LOL
MaximusPrime 3/22/2013 3:44:04 PM ReportInitially it might make a lot people feel better to lock people up and throw away the key. And in certain circumstances I would agree with that approach. However that approach should be one of last resort. If there is anything to learn from the Americans, it’s that a zero tolerance, lock em up type approach doesn’t work and is very expensive. The Americans have some of the strictest draconian laws on the planet and yet they also have one of, if not the most drug addicted, violent societies on the planet. Even countries which have stoning, cutting off of limbs etc as punishment do not have lower crime rates. If that is the approach everybody wants, you better also be prepared for sky high taxes to pay for it. The Americans are now, slowly having a change of heart and are changing their zero tolerance policies because they have largely been proven and failure. Most any criminologist would tell you the same.
missing33years 3/22/2013 3:51:01 PM ReportAND that little bitch is only 16,what animals her mom and dad must also be...WE SHOULD BE HUNTING THESE PEOPLE DOWN AND REMOVE THEM FROM THEIR LIFE....COURTS ARE OF NO USE
gassman 3/22/2013 3:52:27 PM Reportwow he is being charged for robery and breach of probation.
what about armed robery, agrevated assault causing bodily harm or maybe even attempted murder charges. for him
and she gets charged 1 count of robery. she kicked this man in the head, again why not assault causing bodily harm. wow police are not even charging these guys with the proper convictions.
the police department really needs to step it up wow.
i guess the bank robbers will maybe get off with charges like public mischief, or running 40 klm in a 30 klm speed zone.
whats wrong with these city cops
nicole1414 3/22/2013 3:55:17 PM ReportGreat job for catching these 2 SSM Police.
We easily cut them down but then they do good, few can say anything positive?
Kevin5069 3/22/2013 4:02:42 PM ReportOnce again, the person being arrested was also charged with 3 counts of breach of probation. Next you read of him he will have 4 breaches. And the 16 yr old involved in a stabbing we are not aloud to know so it may be your next door neighbor.
I have no problem with the young offenders act for kids being caught stealing candy, but for armed robbery, rape and murder, our 'justice system' is designed to protect offenders and create more work for the courts. This story is more proof.
Lucifer 3/22/2013 4:09:41 PM ReportUmmm....why wasn't one of them charged with attempt manslaughter? You stab someone you know there a good chance they could die....that's crazy they didn't get more severe charges!!
Norm 3/22/2013 4:16:02 PM ReportLikely a product of their poor upbringing. Sad, but they have to be put away for a substantial amount of time. Never mind the socialist left wing everybody deserves a break slap on the wrist rehabilitate them attitude.
Stugatzu 3/22/2013 4:27:03 PM ReportA collapsible baton, also referred to as an ASP baton will do the trick.
About as small as a mini Maglite -- keep it in your pocket.
Snowdon 3/22/2013 4:33:58 PM ReportNorm - "Likely a product of their poor upbringing. Sad, but they have to be put away for a substantial amount of time. Never mind the socialist left wing everybody deserves a break slap on the wrist rehabilitate them attitude."
Literally no idea what you're talking about, and likely have no facts to back up your baseless assertion. Google the benefits of rehabilitation, versus locking prisoners up. Since you're clearly not left wing, I'm assuming you're right wing. I'm sure you want to raise everyone's taxes to support the incarceration of more and more people in jail right? You probably think taxes are pretty low, right?
Or would you rather rehabilitate someone and have them becoming a functioning, taxpaying member of society? No, no that just seems too logical, right?
Go back to the 1920s where you belong with that attitude. Thinking like that is what is keeping the Soo spinning its tires - tired, old policies from tired, old people.
Norm 3/22/2013 4:47:12 PM ReportSnowdon, spoken like a true grit, or NDP, Liberal. Would you say that if one of these criminal types approached you or a loved one and did damage for a cigarette of some petty cash. Rehab might work for some, some though, especially the repeat offenders, and there are a lot of them, need to be dealt with in a more harsh manner.
Brianne 3/22/2013 4:55:08 PM Reporthornet spray works just as good as bear spray and sprays farther, and legal to buy :)
Intwydimayla69 3/22/2013 5:15:42 PM ReportSeems quite a few agree that more needs to be done. As a society, the responsibility falls squarely on our shoulders. The police cannot be everywhere and the cost to have more patroling the beat would cut into a cash strapped budget.
Perhaps groups of evening patrollers covering the most problematic areas would cause a deterrent and effectively cut off the corridor of corrupt behaviour that frequents the downtown core. If 15-20 individuals walked as a group in shifts nightly, the criminal element would lose the cover of darkness with spotted movement and be forced to vacate these zones. Cell phones not only work to make phone calls, they can be used to capture photos of a crime in commission as well as video and instant connection to the law. This is something that truly becomes the entire communities problem, as any one of these incidents could end up being any one of us. This is not an organizing of vigilantes, merely a presence of like minded individuals where the strength in numbers can be used to deter the thought of perhaps committing an offence.
Zarm27 3/22/2013 5:31:06 PM ReportPersonally this is why I think there should be mandatory drug testing. Not going to get into a big debate about how it's not just social assistance dregs that're addicted, but w/e. The fact is the people committing these crimes are scum, and in my opinion would benefit society only in being removed completely. The bleeding hearts make me sick as well, there really is no excuse for this level of crime.
MaximusPrime 3/22/2013 5:47:25 PM ReportAccording to the number (Statistics Canada), police reported crimes are at their lowest level since 1972. I realize that after reading a story like this it seems that crime is “out of control”. However the numbers do not support that position. There was always crime and there always will be crime. People’s memories are short. They like to believe that when they were young, things were better and there was no crime.
Reactionary opinions where people think everybody should be tested for drugs, locked up, beaten, executed….. are just that, reactionary, mindless opinions. I know, I know, I must be a “bleeding heart liberal”. In fact, I would be a conservative, if conservatives actually stood for small government and fewer personal intrusions. But they don’t. Typically conservative and republican governments start the most wars, lock up the most people and run the highest deficits (all contrary to the fundamental principles of a true conservative). Get educated, find out the facts. Governments do not need to micromanage everything and lock everybody up. Sound, science based, proven policies are more effective than the reactionary revenge based ideas of the ignorant.
Sledneck1976 3/22/2013 5:50:27 PM ReportWhy no assault with a weapon or attempted murder?
Zarm27 3/22/2013 5:58:04 PM ReportSitting on a fence post, posting nothing that actually relates to the actual article but strictly bases responses towards the comment section for the purpose of triggering responses is being a troll.
Instead form an opinion based on the article, and post it. I'd gladly like to hear what you believe may be a solution to the current problem.
dead eye 3/22/2013 6:01:08 PM ReportWhat we need is a right to carry law in canada.. they made it a law that each home owner in orange county Florida had to have a fire arm in thier home if you wanted it there or not. If you didn,t comply you got a fine. home invasion while people were home dropped 83 percent.. the bad guys now did not take the chance some one would shoot them for thier troubles.. If we had a right to carry people could protect themselves and others .. The low lifes would be at a wonderful disadvantage ..we could quit complaining and save the police and the courts lot of time.
MaximusPrime 3/22/2013 6:06:08 PM ReportI know it must be difficult for you Zarm27, but read and you will see that I have posted my ideas for an imperfect solution (I do not believe there is a perfect solution). So far, from what I have read from you, your idea would not solve anything..... would create a police state though. If you like police states, there are plenty of them around the world. Be warned, most of them are not very "safe" though. In those countries it is the "officials" who tend to be the ones you really have to watch out for. A democracy which demands the kind of controls your are suggesting our government should implement will not be a democracy for long.
I'm In 3/22/2013 6:15:39 PM ReportMayor Debbie doesn't have a clue how to make a city safe, she beleives criminals should be corrected as she is a social worker. Put them in the ARMY thats the only place they'll learn
Zarm27 3/22/2013 6:17:32 PM ReportYou're right, if our government wasn't flawed, and we agreed on a certain standard, then I'd want a totalitarian situation. What we have now is criminals that actually get let off due to "addiction", claiming it's a mental illness despite being chosen by said individual. Not all crimes are committed by them, but the fact is there is a large percentage of them that are. Mandatory drug testing for social assistance recipients is still a good idea in my opinion. For those that are looking for work, or atleast bettering themselves it would not be a problem aside from taking some time out of their overall open schedule.
While my idea would not solve crime, it would atleast point out certain individuals that may have a reason to commit a crime. Who needs a pre-cog, when simple screening could handle such influences.
Personally, since I love this city, including its flaws, I would prefer to break some eggs to better it.
Zarm27 3/22/2013 6:22:14 PM ReportAlso, your idea about free drugs for addicts is ludicrous. Really, the programs in place already cushion junkies more than enough, and the majority abuse it until they get their next cheque to make their regular routine viable.
MaximusPrime 3/22/2013 6:33:06 PM ReportBut the status quo has worked out so well???? It is not just my opinion. Some of the most educated people in the world; people who influence government on some of the most complicated policy around including most economist and criminologist will tell you that prohibition in all its forms is counter-productive. It is basic economics. Where there is a demand, the supply will be met. If it is not met by legitimate business it will be met by the black market, thus funding organized crime. Drug addiction is here to stay. If we can’t keep drugs out of our prisons, how on earth do you expect to keep in out of the “free world”….. it is 100% impossible. Once you recognize that fact, you must begin to look at other solutions. Attacking this problem from an economics perspective solve many of the related issues. Criminals would no longer be able to make money, addicts would have their drug (in a known purity)……. Organized crime barely had a foothold in North American society before alcohol prohibition. But alcohol prohibition allowed for the funding of organized crime such as AL Capone. Can we not learn a few lessons from the history?
Nikkilynn 3/22/2013 6:35:32 PM ReportRobbery and Breach of probation?? What about assault and attempted murder?
huddy1 3/22/2013 6:41:28 PM ReportOk....i've read enough about our Police force and the idiots slamming them. You dont think for 1 minute these fine men and women of our Police force arent sick & tired of chasing the same scum week after week...doing all the paperwork involved in making an arrest...making sure that its perfect so that some ambulance chasing lawyer dont get the scum off on a technicality. We really have to look at the lawyers in this town also...they're the ones getting them off...not the Po
lice...I think we have to focus a little more on the young ofenders act and get it changed...the girl here is 16...you cant tell me that she doent know the difference between right & wrong! Try her and amyone else over the age of 13 as an adult. These kids know the law and know they will only bet a slap on the wrist.
Everyone is quick to blame the Police....you have to remember there are only about 200 Police....if that...to protect a city of 70000...they cant be everywhere at same time...and remember they also have to answer ALL the other calls...you know...important ones where someone is whinning that someone's neighbor is blowing snow in their driveway...and beleive me there are alot of stupid calls the Police HAVE to answer as we are all tax payers.
To ALL our Police officers out there...THANK YOU...Be safe!
huddy1 3/22/2013 6:43:02 PM ReportOk....i've read enough about our Police force and the idiots slamming them. You dont think for 1 minute these fine men and women of our Police force arent sick & tired of chasing the same scum week after week...doing all the paperwork involved in making an arrest...making sure that its perfect so that some ambulance chasing lawyer dont get the scum off on a technicality. We really have to look at the lawyers in this town also...they're the ones getting them off...not the Po
lice...I think we have to focus a little more on the young ofenders act and get it changed...the girl here is 16...you cant tell me that she doent know the difference between right & wrong! Try her and amyone else over the age of 13 as an adult. These kids know the law and know they will only bet a slap on the wrist.
Everyone is quick to blame the Police....you have to remember there are only about 200 Police....if that...to protect a city of 70000...they cant be everywhere at same time...and remember they also have to answer ALL the other calls...you know...important ones where someone is whinning that someone's neighbor is blowing snow in their driveway...and beleive me there are alot of stupid calls the Police HAVE to answer as we are all tax payers.
To ALL our Police officers out there...THANK YOU...Be safe!
sootodayreader 3/22/2013 6:45:39 PM ReportThe lawyers in this city aren't very good.
Sloppy police work then the cover up is what this department is known for.
Criminals arresting criminals.
MaximusPrime 3/22/2013 6:55:39 PM ReportThere's been very little police bashing in this thread (considering there are over 100 posts). Nevertheless, the law is technical and if the police do not do everything properly the individual will get off. That is how it works. And that is why the police are paid well and trained well.... or at least that is the intention of spending the huge somes of $$ on police. They SHOULD do their job properly so that people dont' get off on technicalities. If the lawyer doesn't do his/her job properly, his/her client will also loose. It is the name of the game. If you they can't handle it, they should be replaced. Of course everybody makes mistakes, but always blaming judges and lawyers for what is often sloppy police work is not right either.
B Boy 3/22/2013 7:27:03 PM ReportThe Halton Police service polices over 500,000 residents with in 650 officers.
7 times as many people with only 3 times the police.
I think the policing system the Soo uses is outdated an ineffective but I blame the police leadership and police service board for that.
gmyruts 3/22/2013 7:37:33 PM Reportomg! the crime rate here in the soo is getting worse and scarier.
IMO about giving more drugs to the druggies does not solve much of a problem, then druggies will be more useless to get a job,violent to their families/friends, and instead of buying food to put on the table, they would rather have "drugs" as their food...well,i guess,it would solve some kind of problem, when they overdose and it will be their last "trip".
illogical and nonsense demand of drugs versus supply to solve drug problems/crimesroberry,et al...
totally agree with some people that some people should be tested for drugs...and no one should ever be rob or stab just so that the robbers/stabbers can get their quick "fix"...
nicole1414 3/22/2013 7:48:42 PM ReportSo glad you to hear you are okay!
Buddy_Bob 3/22/2013 8:04:42 PM ReportHere's an interesting Graham Hancock video relating to the drug issue..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huFp-vaY_Ok
I seen a self defense guy on a talk show once, He was recommending carrying wasp spray. As it will shoot far and accurate, and it's not illegal to carry.(he said...maybe it is). You will get charged most likely if you used it on someone....and I don't know if they come pocket sized...purse maybe...but it could save your life.
gmyruts 3/22/2013 8:15:03 PM Reportthank goodness slider that you are still alive right now. yup, i hope those people who hurt you would be lock for months/years.
Tender34 3/22/2013 8:19:03 PM ReportOK people. It's time for the real truth. Yes, drugs are part of the problem. But, the real problem goes back way further than that. The real problem is this ridiculous Young Offenders Act. The bleeding heart Liberals brought this stupid crap into our society and we have paid the price ever since. Anyone under the age of 18 has free reign to rob, steal and assault every law abiding citizen in our community and walk away scott free with no consequences. It's time to get rid of this and start punishing our youth for their indiscretions and start making them accountable for their actions. Teenagers have become immature and defiant because of this law and there is literally nothing anyone can do about it. The police can do nothing. Parents can do nothing. Wake up Canada !!! When I was a kid, you didn't do this crap for fear of being sent to Juvenile Detention or your Dad kicking your butt. Now, there is not Juvenile Detention and your Dad goes to jail for kicking your butt. And here's the part that really pisses me off. These kids get away with this crap and have a sealed record. I bought a radio off another kid when I was in high school 33 years ago and I was convicted of posession of stolen goods when I was 16 years old. There was no Young Offenders Act back then and I can't get a job now because of that conviction. Yet, these kids can stab and kick someone in the head and it will never be out there for potential employers to know. I really, really love this country but at times, I have a hard time believing that this country loves me. Maybe I should move away, give up my Canadian citizenship and come back as an immigrant. Cash for life !!!
Tender34 3/22/2013 8:23:58 PM ReportSlider....good for you. I'm glad you go a couple shots in. However, be careful what you put on here. The way things work in this country, you might get charged with assaulting the punk. I think it's sad that something like that could even cross my mind, but hey, this is bleeding heart Liberal land where the seemingly improbable is the norm. Common sense is not part of the Liberal vocabulary.
Resident 3/22/2013 8:28:45 PM ReportHow about hair spray? Are they available in small cans? I'm glad the person attacked is ok!!!!
atticus 3/22/2013 8:36:44 PM ReportSlider ... horrific what you have endured. Thank goodness that it seems like you will heal, physically at minimum. But you would probably be wise to say no more publicly of the incident, or you may jeopardize the ensuing proceeding(s).
Alystr 3/22/2013 8:39:35 PM ReportGlad Slider is OK and very glad the coppers picked these punks up in a timely manner.. Now, quit slapping these jackasses on the wrist and send them to Sudbury to live like they are doing with punk who stabbed the person 80 times.. Why send a murderer to live here in the Sault? I am at a loss.. I guess our crime rate here is ok in the eyes of some? WOW is all..
Tom_Bom 3/22/2013 9:49:44 PM ReportHope little mister stab happy enjoys meeting bubba in jail, where he belongs.
bigG47 3/22/2013 10:03:46 PM ReportI think many of the problems today, are a result of 'lack of good parenting'. Parents have an obligation to teach their children; a good work ethic, right from wrong, a sense of fair play, the value of money, the value of friendship, and last but not least, a sense of humour.
I don't see a lot of parenting going on these days, and I suspect some of the problem is that both parents are working, and don't have the time. The other problem seems to be; there is only one parent, but that is a whole other story.
Back in the day, kids took part in things like Sunday school/church, and cubs/scouts/girl guides, where they were given guidance. I know these institutions still do exist today, but to a much lesser extent.
Without good parenting, much of this fundamental learning falls on the teachers at school. I don't wish to incur the wrath of the teachers, but they don't have the time anymore for these details. The next level on the learning curve is 'learning from their piers', or 'on the street'. This is critical, because everything is dependant on luck. If they hang with the wrong crowd, bad things can happen.
When kids reach high school, the teenage years, the kids on the right path make good decisions based on the input they got from their parents, and other influential people in their life. The other kids; well, they don't usually make such good decisions.
To make an already long story shorter, the responsibility of building a young law-abiding adult is squarely on the parents, not the police, and not the government. It is that simple, which is not that simple. But who said it was going to be easy ???
Forum420 3/22/2013 10:20:08 PM ReportBy the way the person attacked is actually not okay. He was stabbed in the back with possible SCI, in the knee he is unable to ambulate, he was stabbed in the external pinna (ear) in the head, he has a black eye, he is disoriented and in shock and will be unable to function as he was before the incident. He has had dozens of stitches and looks like a tortured prisoner of war and will need thousands in plastic surgery.
DowntownJuniorBrown 3/22/2013 11:46:32 PM ReportHow are "kids" willing to stab someone over a small amount of cash? I don't know about everyone else but I very rarely carry money on me, the majority of places you goto are accustomed to debit purchases. If this had happened to myself I maybe would have had $5.00, is that what peoples lives are worth now?
Carrying weapons, sprays etc. is definitely not an appropriate response to these kind of issues. If you start carrying something the criminal(s) are just going to get something bigger/better.
The city needs to jump in and start more frequent patrols have some form of presence on the streets; the notion that Sault Ste. Marie is a safe clean and quite town is rediculous.
Hopefully this gentleman makes a recovery and again can enjoy walking!
jojo12345 3/23/2013 12:39:54 AM Reportbuild more call center and no real job
so they steal to have money
way to go Sault
so ashamed of living here
atticus 3/23/2013 1:54:49 AM Report Re: Forum420
That is a gruesome description. Best wishes Slider.
Moonshiner 3/23/2013 5:26:34 AM ReportUpdate says..charged with robbery?What about the ..assault with weapon..causing harm possesion of weapon..etc?
Jitterbug 3/23/2013 5:36:39 AM Reportknow more people that got in trouble and more charges for ice fishing
dinho1985 3/23/2013 6:55:11 AM Report@jojo.... Don't be ashamed. Well, be ashamed, just stop voicing it unless you're willing to move. So go ahead and move.
Norm 3/23/2013 11:09:02 AM ReportJoJo, every city has this problem, big city, small city. If anyone was going to move, they would of moved because of the poor politics of the nineties.
B Boy 3/23/2013 11:53:15 AM ReportEvery city has similar problems but this seems to be disproportionately high and growing.
Mcleans.ca ans stats Canada have some pretty staggering crime statistics and how SSM ranks. For overall crime severity SSM is #32 out of the worse 100 cities across the entire country. When you sort the table by % of improvement it looks like SSM is the worst at #8.
And for all you Toronto haters out there, overall Toronto is #52.
As a concerned community we need to put pressure on our councillors, police chief and police services board. Believe/accept it or not, we all seem to be in increasing danger and we have a right to know what our elected and appointed leaders are doing about it. I tried to get involved by resurrecting the old neighbourhood watch but was basically shot down by the police at HQ when I tried. They me they didn't want to be involved with it.
B Boy 3/23/2013 11:54:45 AM ReportJeez, can't type today. I meant SSM ranks in the worst at #8 in crime improvement with a growth since 2005 of 2.2%.
Keep in mind this is just police reported crime, not reported by residents. But that's another argument.
B Boy 3/23/2013 12:52:44 PM ReportRecidivism at it's finest.
CITY POLICE
NEWS RELEASE
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On the 28th of December, 22-year old Jean Paul Yade of no fixed address was arrested for assault.
It is alleged that on the 27th of December 2012 he assaulted an employee at the Sault Area Hospital by punching them in the face.
Mr. Yade is scheduled to appear in court on the 28th of January 2013.
Snowdon 3/23/2013 1:16:32 PM ReportYes B Boy, there were a few significant incidents that have skewed the numbers worse for a couple years (for example: three murders in 1 year is WAY out of the ordinary).
And look, all the amateur police who were crying about him only being charged with robbery - well he's got the other charges now, too. Sometimes it takes a little while to gather the evidence and lay the charge, not that the couch police would know.
KMF61MCF 3/23/2013 1:19:34 PM ReportSlider1 i am so glad your alive and on the Mend. Wishing you a speedy recovery.
JustMe1234567 3/23/2013 1:36:26 PM ReportAggravated assault better be as bad as an attempted murder charge, I think it is as severe of a charge??
Any lawyers out there to confirm that?
If it isn't as sever WHY NOT!!?? If I was stabbed I would want a attempt murder charge against the perp!!!!
Question for Forum420- is the info reliable you are reporting? (no offense, just want confirmation that isn't rumour)
Hope the stabbing victim has speedy recovery!!
JustMe1234567 3/23/2013 1:41:42 PM ReportB-Boy- notice how in the December 2012 police release he was 22, but in today's police release he is 21? Somehow he got younger.
Sigh, Soo police...sometimes I really have to wonder 'bout the info you guys (and gals)release to the public.
B Boy 3/23/2013 1:50:00 PM ReportSnowdon - according to stats Canada each year since 2009 SSM crime severity has increased and preliminary results are looking like it continued into 2012 and the first quarter of 2013 has already seen a few doozies.
So now we're talking about a possibly 5 year trend of severity growth.
If you want I'll go tell the families of the murdered victims not to worry, they were just a few significant events that skewed the otherwise idyllic stats of SSM.
If it helps you can keep your head buried in the sand while I talk to them.
SSM crime is growing, we're now at 10% unemployment - and that's based on people who are currently on EI, not those whose EI has been exhausted. These are similar indicators to Buffalo, Detroit and Flint.
I don't know enough about macroeconomics and criminology, but that's why we're elected (or in some cases appointed) our leadership. They are in paid positions to fix these issues.
Meanwhile the rest of us can lock ourselves indoors and not venture out at night and install extra deadbolts and security systems after we cash our EI before it runs out.
Personally, I've started looking for careers and housing outside of SSM and yes, it was my choice to move here and it's my choice to leave.
dad 3/23/2013 1:56:08 PM ReportWe need better protection in this town Columbo could probably do a better job or will have to start carrying our own weapons for protection cops cant seem to protect anyone they just spank them and send them back on the street
pilopovich 3/23/2013 2:15:56 PM ReportI want to thank the SSM police department for a job well done. Your hard work and dedication to keeping us safe has not gone unnoticed. (despite the ridiculous comments on this page) The job you so selflessly do on a daily basis does make a difference and you are greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Snowdon 3/23/2013 2:16:53 PM ReportB Boy - not really it hasn't increased: http://www.ssmps.ca/images/pdf/stats.pdf
Some have gone up, some have gone down, but that can be attributed to variance year to year. Homicides are up, but again not an epidemic and all involving people known to one another (aka not a general public risk). Other numbers have fluctuated.
But, by all means, leave. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
irishfey 3/23/2013 2:31:02 PM ReportExcuse me for not responding earlier..spent the day throwing up and feeling quite sick about all this. Tender 34.. has a good point as well as the rest of you all. The Police and the courts just can"t handle all of these little PUKES out there and the Law has made it impossible for the Parents to smack these little a- holes when they need it! I myself have one of these "" pukes "' as a Grandson.. who just walked out of Court a few weeks ago [ for the 4th. time ] and was laughing at how the Courts were fu...d up! Thinks the Courts are a joke!.. I had a chance to talk to the Crown Attorney after and she said that my "" puke"" hasn"t .. hit the limit... yet for them to throw him in jail where he and the rest of them belong!.. Is a sad day when the Parents and Grandparents of these kids can"t lift a finger to try and straighten out our own kids OUR WAY!!! I wish the Courts would put these kids in a boot camp, army or somewhere, just to get them off the streets and make a .. Man, or Woman.. out of them as our hands are tied! The Police do the best they can and i give them my full respect, as i know that they get peeved off with dealing with these litle shits that think they can do anything they want and get away with it,, when The Police should be dealing with the bigger problems like the ones that bring the drugs into this town! I agree that maby some good strong young men should go out in groups at night and help keep watch over our town, not to do any great harm , but a few kicks in the ass would be good,, just don"t leave too many marks!! Something HAS to be done!! All these a-holes are just waiting to turn 18 so they can hit the Welfare Office and get a free ride while they continue their crap. And yes.. I talked to the Welfare Office, and it"s that easy for them to get on it!!... So now.. we are paying them to go out and beat up and steal from our good people of the Soo! My only light in my silver lining is that my "" puke"" turns 18 today, and i know that he will not change, so he will be meeting "" Bubba"" soon!... Do i love him? yes... do i like him? no. hope guys like "Bubba" can do what i"m not able!! It"s called.. tough love!! You parents out there know if your kid is a bad ass.. so just take him out somewhere.. just try not to leave too many marks and have an alibi!!! I even had one Police Officer say that to my Son when he didn"t know what to do with his kid. Good luck folks,, hope you can suceed where i failed....
B Boy 3/23/2013 2:36:46 PM ReportSnowdon - explain to me why the local police stats differ from statscan?
I like your response though coming from "Algoma's friendliest city".
B Boy 3/23/2013 2:44:32 PM ReportMaybe I jumped the gun due to frustration, but I am looking for a new place to live.
For the record, I'm not slamming the police, or even SSM. I was a sworn member of a police service before moving here (2001-2005). I gave it up because of the stress it put on my family and my health working nights. I quickly tired of spending 65% of my time on domestic calls, 5 hours preparing crown briefs for impaired driving charges and testifying and court to see the crown accepting ridiculous excuses. In 2004 one of my charges for fail to stop/schoolbus was withdrawn because the driver claims to not have seen the bus because he was texting. That one still irritates me.
What I'm saying that this isn't exactly the nicest place to live these days and it doesn't seem to be getting better. We need to pull together and put some pressure of council et al. Instead of spending money and time on figuring out why there are so many shopping carts laying around better time could be spend on the significant issues. Employment, poverty, drugs, crime, policing.
I've put my name forward for several focus groups but nothing yet.
Sledneck1976 3/23/2013 3:18:31 PM ReportCrying to politicians will not work. Look up JP Yade on facebook if your curious what he looks like.
wellrounded10 3/23/2013 3:24:14 PM ReportThis city is getting out of control! I was walking down by the bus terminal the other day and was confronted by a younger male! He tapped me on the shoulder and when I turned around thought I was going to get jumped and that's all he said wrong guy thought you were someone else. Its sad that people have to raise their families around this the downtown area is brutal! Get pretty nervous when I have to use the shoelace express to get around! Constantly worried that some idiot is the prowl looking for their next victim!
zartan 3/23/2013 3:59:21 PM ReportRobbery, assault, and "threatening death". Is that what we call attempted murder in Canada? If not, where is the charge in the article. Stabbing someone with a knife is indicative of wanting them to die, no?
sinikka 3/23/2013 4:12:44 PM Report Left wing thinking has killed this country. We concentrate on rehabilitation instead of punishment. You want to rehabilitate great but do it after the punishment not during. Stop these country club prison systems. The criminals should be subject to hard labour during their sentences. Then they will think twice before reoffending. I am tired of reading about the same people committing the same crimes over and over again. And no snowdon i do not mind paying a little extra on my taxes to ensure that some hard incarceration comes with a life of crime. We don't have to move , we have to demand that the politicians listen to the cries of the hardworking public . Repeal and modify the young offender's act. Create a 3 strikes on you get a real prison sentence not 3-6 months. Get tough on crime and criminals. This city is full of law abiding people that surely outnumber the criminals . Time to take our city back.
misskickz 3/23/2013 4:29:04 PM ReportSad very sad I know jp personaly. He's a fall down .. this is what people in our community should be.more worried about. Not people "stealing cars" this kid will never learn I feel for him in a way because he's got a beautiful.baby boy that now his.mother is left to raise him alone makes me sick seriously!!!!!!
Resident 3/23/2013 5:08:07 PM ReportB Boy: At least you are trying to do something positive. Hopefully you'll be asked to give some input at some point. Good luck.
grumpybear 3/23/2013 5:48:12 PM ReportI wouldn't feel too bad for his baby boy. I think the baby would be better off not being raised by an attempted killer.
Mr_Moose23 3/23/2013 8:25:09 PM ReportHow does someone that stabs another person for their wallet get an opportunity for bail? was he not on probation already? This is RIDICULOUS!!!! KEEP HIM IN JAIL!!!
Poirot1900 3/23/2013 8:53:19 PM ReportJustMe1234567 3/23/2013 1:36:26 PM
According to the Criminal Code of Canada
S. 282(2)
Everyone who commits an aggravated assault is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding fourteen years
S. 239(1)(b)
Every person who attempts by any means to commit murder is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to
(b) in any other case (i.e. not using a firearm), to imprisonment for life.
Deano_ 3/23/2013 9:00:06 PM ReportAgreed.. keep this low life loser off the street. What a waste.
Mr E 3/23/2013 10:24:45 PM Report680 Portage Lane, When enough is enough, these creeps need to be shown the door to the city.
missing33years 3/24/2013 2:29:58 AM ReportITS NOT THE COPS WHO ARE THE PROBLEM...ITS THE CROWN COUNSEL WHO DOES NOT WANT THE CHARGES LAID..COPS MUST FOLLOW THEIR CHOICE OF WHAT CRIMINAL CODE TO FOLLOW..ITS THE COURTS THAT ARE CAUSING THE D-CAY OF THIS NATION...NOT THE CITY COPS ..OR THE RCMP ,ITS YOUR LOCAL JUDGE AND CROWN COUNSEL WHOS THE THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEMS WE NOW HAVE....
JustMe1234567 3/24/2013 8:44:52 AM ReportPoirot1900- Thanks for the info!
I stand completely perplexed as to why this kid only got charged with aggravated assault and not murder attempt.
Assault with a deadly weapon. Or something more severe.
If the victim died it would be a murder!
Ugh.
Someone in another comment section posted the phone number to our crown attorneys, I think we should start calling and leaving msg that we want stiffer penalties for these `fall downs` NO DEALS!
crashed13 3/24/2013 10:32:59 AM ReportWHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS WHAT ONE OF MY GIRLS WAS DOING SO FAR FROM HER WORK STATION OF ALBERT AND GORE!!!!
muddmutt69 3/24/2013 8:39:05 PM Report680 Portage Lane thats good to know may be some one shuld go rob him now and kick his 16 year old girlfriend in the face while somestabs him. what come around goes around.......
jojoe71 3/24/2013 10:40:33 PM Reportyou can see how mob mentality can take over a crowd. No matter what these low life scum sucking bottom feeding degenerates from hell deserve it is not up to the citizens to exact revenge. Or we lower ourselves to their level.
jojo12345 3/25/2013 8:22:43 PM Reportwas raise around Montreal and around Toronto we have what they call Guardian Angel peoples like us who decide to be on the street and take care of those scum bag
we do have Helping Hands who just start in the Sault maybe it will be a good idea to have Guardian Angel also who will be on the street and help
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