Alystr 3/20/2013 9:25:21 AM ReportThis is only the beginning.. People are going to become more desperate each day with this terrible economy..
Moonshiner 3/20/2013 9:26:24 AM ReportAre we having a crime wave?...seems so!
golfnuttt 3/20/2013 9:31:42 AM ReportSeems this is becoming an epidemic......
Studlee 3/20/2013 9:32:36 AM ReportOne has to wonder how they got in to the bank before it even opened. This says inside job all the way. I hope a video is released to the public, they have cameras plastered everywhere in there.
grammie 3/20/2013 9:33:38 AM ReportThey need money for there fix, drugs make people do irrational things.
uh? 3/20/2013 9:39:08 AM ReportI didn't even know the bank was open that early in the morning.
Studlee 3/20/2013 9:39:36 AM ReportThere ya go folks, typical sault thinking that all criminals are druggies. Sorry to burst your bubble there grammie but druggie lowlifes in this city aren't brazen enough to rob banks, they opt out for the convenience stores and gas bars where only one person is working, think about it! This is a bigtime, well planned and executed bank robbery. These guys must have known what they were doing to be able to penetrate a bank, steal the money (which is secured) and get away.
dadal 3/20/2013 9:46:26 AM Report The economic crisis in the Soo has been a long standing issue way before the global situation was realized. Lack of jobs for the youth and what jobs there are tend to be minimum wage-just enough of a pay to make ends meet but not enough to get ahead. Add the acceptance of alcohol abuse in the city and surrounding areas and you create a financial environment that screams crime. While possible the culprits COULD be from out of area, highly unlikely as they were aware of an early opening bank which they could hit quick and get away before the normal morning rush hour began. Mac robberies are becoming common as youths strike looking for quick money. Robbing a bank takes more nerve...or desperation
Studlee 3/20/2013 9:47:12 AM ReportUh? The bank was closed at the time. branch hours are 8 am to 8 pm on weekdays.
iamtc 3/20/2013 9:47:13 AM ReportThis crime will go unsolved the police could'nt even catch an m&m in their mouth plus are justice system is to relaxed about these crimes its not a good thing to get robbed but at the same time we all get robbed by banking fees.
thesharr 3/20/2013 9:53:24 AM ReportYears ago,wasn't there a bank robbery at a credit union and a chief of police was in line and they never caught the person,amgine that.
MR40 3/20/2013 9:54:22 AM Reportcheck the airport.
dadal 3/20/2013 9:54:44 AM ReportYou're right Studlee. Those looking for money for drugs do so as needed. They rob passerby's or would hit a quick rob like a Macs. Robbing a bank is something planned. Especially with two of them doing so. And besides, most crimes done " under the influence" in the Soo are committed through alcohol abuse, NOT drugs...despite what local police want everyone to think.
Boomboom 3/20/2013 9:58:44 AM ReportCould be just someone trying to get ahead start on there higher property tax bill that will be coming shortly. If the city can be a crooks...they just follow suit.
FRANK MANZO for MAYOR!
right wing 3/20/2013 10:19:07 AM Report...or it could be two girls that were dressed to look like guys and they are really bank tellers so they had keys to open the door before public hours... suffering from "snow-madness" they wanted money to buy makeup and take a vacation to a warm sunny island so they could have drinks with those little umbrellas in them...a car was not even used, they took a cab there and then they switched to wheelchairs and took the para-bus to get away.
Could be.
Dead End Kid 3/20/2013 10:19:56 AM ReportI remember in the old days every bank in North America had a guard or two inside at all times. Why did they get away from this policy?
nicole1414 3/20/2013 10:21:43 AM ReportA few things...
The fact that I'm not overly suprised by this, has to tell you something.
Don't people walk the malls early in the morning? Could have been dangerous.
The desperation of people needing money is a scary thing. What's next?
Moonshiner 3/20/2013 10:21:48 AM ReportThey made a classic getaway on Soo Transit.......Butch Hidaway and the Snowflake Kid!
iamtc 3/20/2013 10:36:26 AM Reportwow this story is getting alot of attention and comments by the local boys and girls of Sault Ste Marie who dont have any clue whats going on with crime in our community first and farmost I would like to thank the sault police department for keeping the streets safe ha ha, second I just cant stop laughing at all the experts and theory going on here everytime I read an article there are all these peeps commenting trash on here if you want real information iamtc has it.
Wicket 3/20/2013 10:54:42 AM ReportFirst clue - ARMED; second clue - prior to opening hours, staff (one at a time) enter the bank - easy to hold a gun to the one with the key and gain access, third clue - keep the gun on that employee while s/he gets the money and lets thieves back out; fourth clue - gone in vehicle, no one around.
Staff member probably in extreme distress!
J&L 3/20/2013 10:58:37 AM ReportIts really funny how people go from talking about an armed robbery to bashing our City Police. I would love to see all you bashers do their job, let alone, get a job, PERIOD. They will catch the jerks who robbed the bank, who, I for one am happy they didn't kill anyone. Our officers will will spend much time, day in and day out trying to find the culprits. They stay up all night, they spend much time away from their families trying to crack these cases. But, yes, you guys know everything. Have a good day.
Nimrod 3/20/2013 11:06:56 AM ReportThe police track record on apprehending bank robbers here in the Sault speaks for itself! Poor at best!Their job performance ranks right up there with the city board of works.First class coffee-shop inspectors. lol
nicole1414 3/20/2013 11:07:24 AM ReportAgreed J&L.
J&L 3/20/2013 11:10:40 AM Report"nimrod"...you sign in name says it all.
J&L 3/20/2013 11:11:16 AM Report*your
stinky 3/20/2013 11:14:09 AM ReportArmed robbery.
Guns? Knives? Bombs?
How were they armed?
crashed13 3/20/2013 11:23:22 AM ReportMy bank will not even unlock the door one spit of a second before opening.
KMF61MCF 3/20/2013 11:23:24 AM Reportthesharr You are correct on the time there a bank robbery at a credit union and a chief of police was in line and they never caught the person. LOL
bounder 3/20/2013 11:38:33 AM ReportThese two perpatrators have a lot of nerve,wearing traditional Gouligan jackets,by the way these are not used for hunting.Cutting wood and going to church is what they are used for.Yee Haw.
uh? 3/20/2013 11:40:35 AM ReportYou think with all the cameras they have in there that they would have one pointing outside...to get a pic of people coming and going. Then you would have seen what they drove away in.
Ski-Dude 3/20/2013 11:41:38 AM ReportAwe, matching toques...maybe grandma knitted them.
KMF61MCF 3/20/2013 11:41:51 AM ReportMaybe one of the Saults finest Supervisor shouldn't be hanging out at a neighbours house when on Duty. He is at a neighbours house all diff times of the day. Either with the Supervisor cop car of the Forensic Van or the blacked out Stealth car. He even enters there house when the people aren't home. He tried staring me down one day until i asked him what the hell his problem was? He had no comment.
KMF61MCF 3/20/2013 11:43:17 AM ReportLMAO Ski-Dude
crashed13 3/20/2013 11:46:49 AM ReportLook for a person with a little higher IQ. At least he is not risking amed robbery charges over a corner store with $50 in the till.
Also his getaway vehicle was not a stolen ten speed.
uh? 3/20/2013 11:47:12 AM ReportLOL @ bounder. Now that's funny....cause its true!!
Thim 3/20/2013 11:52:16 AM ReportJ&L look up the definition of NIMROD and you'll find it means "mighty Hunter"
guestwho 3/20/2013 11:55:42 AM Reportcheck zellers video cameras,looks like their head gear and bush jacket came from there, on sale no less(savings)
jessiecat 3/20/2013 12:01:06 PM ReportWhy's he wearing a different jacket in the fourth frame?
ryeandcoke 3/20/2013 12:02:42 PM ReportI really hope these guys get away with it. Its legal for banks to rob us everyday. Kudos to them for having the balls to rob them back!!!
braaap104 3/20/2013 12:06:31 PM ReportHere we go with the defensive police fan club again.. I swear you ppl that defend them were the safety patrol in school. When city police actually get off their very unfit behinds and start doing something around here maybe we'll show them a little respect, hmm?
braaap104 3/20/2013 12:07:54 PM ReportThere's a better chance these two will be caught by Batman or Spiderman before city police catch them.
westofthesoo 3/20/2013 12:08:05 PM Reportwhen was the last bank in sault ste marie? anyone know???
maltese 3/20/2013 12:09:12 PM Reportright wing - LOL Great theory, think this winter is getting to everyone. I agree with wicket's theory. These "cops always in the coffee shop" joke is getting so old...doesn't eveyone that works get a coffee break?? Safest place to be...lol. I am also thankful no one was killed or injured. stinky.....who cares "how" they were armed, could be a finger pointed in a coat pocket, I would comply. Personal safety is more important. Management/staff do go in well before 8a.m. And clients can do their banking 24/7 at the ATM between the doors. What an opportunity to grab a staff member to get in!! Used to be at the scotiabank one had to swipe the ATM card to get thru the doors to do ATM banking. I don't believe it is set up that way at TD.
You know, everyday items - groceries, gas, car/home/personal insurance/rent keeps going up all the time - even have to pay $5 to go to the hospital for a test or the GHC. That is "robbery"! Anyone on a disability or low income cannot even afford to eat or watch cable anymore. Finding a decently priced apartment is a whole other story! I don't know how to fix this but it is a very real problem. Some of these robberies are occurring just for everyday survival - I'm sure there will be more.
guestwho 3/20/2013 12:09:58 PM Reportjessiecat
here`s a clue :2 males rob bank
crashed13 3/20/2013 12:13:20 PM ReportThats the main outside entrance alright and it does not show him using or following a employee inside.
They do not lock there doors while they set up for the day at TD?
Stugatzu 3/20/2013 12:15:43 PM Reportjessiecat -- did you seriously just ask that? Re-read the description of the incident, then give your head a shake. If you still don't know what there are two different style jackets in the photos... re-read the incident a third time.
right wing 3/20/2013 12:17:18 PM Report...yes "mighty hunter" that is what I think of when I see the word "NIMROD".
(rolling eyes)
right wing 3/20/2013 12:19:04 PM ReportBig bunch of cop critics until they need one.
Lame asses.
maltese 3/20/2013 12:21:09 PM Reportjessiecat - the fourth frame is the second robber - if you look to the right of his head, you can see the plaid shirt in behind him - near the yellow sign. They are wearing the same toque/neckwear so it is confusing.
crashed13 3/20/2013 12:21:32 PM ReportMaybe if the these guys get away with it the Junkies in town will start robbing banks for more money instead of parked cars and peoples homes.
thesharr 3/20/2013 12:26:05 PM ReportThere is only four ways out of here.Highway north,highway east,across the river or airport.I would check the airport,check for early flights, the car is probably sitting there until things cool down and after vacationing,my two thoughts only.Hope the people at the bank are ok.Hope these low lifes are caught!
crashed13 3/20/2013 12:36:07 PM ReportAfter this one TD should open up with the rest of the mall so there are more witnesses.
With online banking,Atms,Direct deposits and inter Act who almost needs a teller let alone one at 8AM.
recvid 3/20/2013 12:37:45 PM Reportdefence of police.......yes we should defend them, everyone that watches TV knows that this whole thing should have been wrapped up in the first half hour, really people you have no idea what our police force goes through on a daily basis, stop the bashing and show a little respect and support instead of hiding behind your computer if you have time to comment on it then maybe just maybe you should be working too....glad i'm off today.... Glad no one was hurt or injured in the situation, hope the police work to the best of their ability and catch these guys.
tqd9999 3/20/2013 12:40:37 PM Report"Moonshiner 3/20/2013 10:21:48 AM
They made a classic getaway on Soo Transit....... "
They'd probably get tried, serve time and released before the bus got there :D
** The Police are doing a very fine job of protecting the city. This summer I got stopped by the Police for riding my bike on the sidewalk when I was going from Shogun Sushi to Colour Your World. I guess it would have been safer for everyone if I crossed the road, rode about 200 meters at around 4pm on Great Northern Rd. and then crossed back over eventhough there was not a single person on the sidewalk at that time and I was just coasting slowly down the slight slope. **
Just Curious 3/20/2013 12:45:58 PM ReportMay be just me but the one with the blond hair looks more like a woman...On the other hand,wasn't there so just an opinion or observation..:)
crashed13 3/20/2013 12:50:19 PM Report@thesharr 3
I doubt they got enough money to start up a new life.
The probably hitting the bong right now and looking for the remote.
yoyo165 3/20/2013 12:50:27 PM ReportThe Macs picture is full length, shows the persons shoes, pants and what appears to be a fairly unique shirt....He'll get recognized and busted, guaranteed.
The TD picture on the other hand is cropped - why? I'm sure there's a camera that caught a full shot. Much harder to recognize who it may be without the full picture....
As for defense of cops, when I was younger I wasn't a big fan, felt picked on by police, guilty until proven innocent....now that I'm older, with a family, I tend to take a different stance....It would be an interesting poll: How old are you? What is your opinion on police? Should also qualify that with: Have you ever been a victim or a charged with a crime? Those last two aside, I'm sure younger people would generally score negative, older would score positive....regardless of where you live and who your police force is.
As far as crime in SSM - we are what we are, a tough blue collar northern community. To this end, i'm sure all of the old timers remember the way things used to be, respect for others etc....That statement applies everywhere, not just ssm.
Alfie 3/20/2013 12:52:34 PM ReportMaybe it was the Boyd Gang! "Hello Ladies, Welcome to the show !"
Koolaid 3/20/2013 12:56:59 PM ReportProb Guys from out of town. Definately check local stores that sell that style of hat. Then check video cameras from that store or ask tellers from that store questions. Check local motels to see if there was anything out of the ordinary.
yoyo165 3/20/2013 12:58:35 PM Reportfor sure Koolaid, probably on the TransCanada highway in their unknown vehicle right now!
crashed13 3/20/2013 1:06:19 PM ReportCan,t be people passing through town. Whats the chances of them knowing there is a TD at the mall let alone it opens at 8am in the morning well before any other place in the entire mall.
nicole1414 3/20/2013 1:12:47 PM Reportyoyo,
I'm assuming they are holding a weapon that they don't want the public seeing.
guestwho 3/20/2013 1:19:20 PM Reportwith this weather,if they`re on the hi-way, it`s probably shut down both ways so they`re not going far!!ha ha
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 1:23:59 PM Reporthttp://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2012/10/05/raymond_smillie_traumatic_hostagetaking_led_to_mental_health_issues.html
nicole1414 3/20/2013 1:29:07 PM ReportAnyone ever think that one of these guys started off with Mr. Sub, then Macs then made his way on to bigger and better things, like the bank?
It looks like this guy is wearing a couple of coats or something. He is also kind of slouched over like the Mr. Sub guy.
Just a thought. It'd be smart to do a couple trial runs at some smaller places first.
cleaninglady 3/20/2013 1:30:12 PM ReportThe first two frames looks like hes holding something under his jacket a weapon perhaps
Tag33&1/3rd 3/20/2013 1:30:46 PM ReportIt is all about the oxy/fix. Either needing it or being threatened because of owing $ for it!
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 1:36:37 PM ReportMost likely they were in the bank over the last few days scoping it out. I would imagine they will be reviewing the tapes.
I wonder if Davies banks at TD now. I'm sure he closed his account at Northern Credit Union
VEROTIK 3/20/2013 1:38:09 PM Reportatleast they wore the matching hats that their grammy sent them for christmas!
dad 3/20/2013 1:49:47 PM ReportThe cops still havent caught the robbers from mac's and mr. sub what makes you think there going to catch these guy's there probably the same 2 guys making fools out of our police force they can't seem to catch anyone any more lol
Mr. Poster 3/20/2013 1:55:31 PM ReportMethinks it was that GARFORTH guy trying to get his money back.
$ean 3/20/2013 1:58:11 PM Reportcheck canadian tire gas bar cameras
Snowdon 3/20/2013 2:13:20 PM ReportPeople need to stop posting and making fools of their online selves.
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 2:13:56 PM ReportDavies is heading up the investigation.
scatter 3/20/2013 2:27:59 PM ReportHi,
I looked at their pictures and it seems that the one in the checkered shirt is wearing alot of clothing under the shirt, arms and pants to make him look big but his face is thinner than the rest of him if you look closer.
SuzyyQ 3/20/2013 2:44:03 PM ReportHere's my "two cents". I don't believe it is the bad economy that is driving people to commit crimes. These criminals seem to have no physical handicaps preventing them from securing paying jobs, therefore, it is pure laziness. The younger generation (no offense to the working young generation), who don't have jobs but have two good arms and two good legs are LAZY, PERIOD! Why don't they get a job? LAZY LAZY LAZY. I say, get off your ass and get a job to make money ! That's what the problem is with society. Too many lazy asses that feel they are entitled to get free money.
Snobank 3/20/2013 2:51:25 PM ReportAmazing number of idiotic comments from the anti-police and pro-criminal crowd. Way to go, Right Wing. Just keep smashing them as they crawl out from under the rocks where they live. (Can't get over the guy using a bank robbery to whine about his getting a ticket for riding his bike on the sidewalk. What a maroon.)
crashed13 3/20/2013 3:07:11 PM Reportcleaninglady 3/20/2013 1:30:12 PM Report
"The first two frames looks like hes holding something under his jacket a weapon perhaps"
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They stated it was a "armed robbery" in the first sentence of the story.
iamtc 3/20/2013 3:08:17 PM Reportits no longer safe to go to the bank i will close my accounts, its no longer safe to go to macs to get snacks, its no longer safe to go to mr sub for a good meal what to do? Seems like anywhere u go u need protection
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 3:09:16 PM ReportCops are Lazy. All the major crimes in this city are solved by the public or informants because the police don't want to do a proper investigation.
Let's toss the pictures up on Soo Today while we go to Tim Hortons. When we get back maybe we can arrest someone.
soodood 3/20/2013 3:15:41 PM Reporthmm is there really a job out there for every person?
Snobank 3/20/2013 3:17:29 PM ReportPrevious commenter a perfect example of stupidity in action.
Snobank 3/20/2013 3:18:37 PM ReportI meant Sootodayreader.
bounder 3/20/2013 3:21:35 PM ReportLook very carefully and he was reaching for the bag to carry the loot out, you can see part of it in one of the photos.A yellow something,maybe a happy face.LMAO
bounder 3/20/2013 3:22:42 PM ReportLook very carefully and he was reaching for the bag to carry the loot out, you can see part of it in one of the photos.A yellow something,maybe a happy face.LMAO
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 3:32:55 PM ReportI'm surprised the cops didn't say two guys and a happy face are wanted.
braaap104 3/20/2013 3:42:41 PM ReportLol snobank's definitely one of the investigators on timmies wifi right now
BlondeBarbie 3/20/2013 3:43:09 PM ReportAnyone know what time the TD bank opens at?
I know that this bank is open from 8am-8pm Monday thru friday....lol
Can anyone say INSIDE JOB???
bounder 3/20/2013 4:00:19 PM ReportI don't think these pics were taken outside,safe to assume inside.LMAO,so funny today.LMAO
Gotmilk 3/20/2013 4:25:58 PM ReportPoor guys are just misunderstood, probably just a couple of entrepreneurs trying to make a buck.
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 4:37:03 PM ReportThe police are following a crumb trail to Tim Hortons.
The robbers have been labelled the
Timbit Bandits
BlackHelix 3/20/2013 4:37:10 PM Report@BlondeBarbie
Anyone know what time the TD bank opens at?
I know that this bank is open from 8am-8pm Monday thru friday....lol
Can anyone say INSIDE JOB???
Yeah, because everyone knows that bank robbers respect the hours of operation. It's not like they could have smashed the glass doors or anything. It's not like they could have seen the employees there at 7 on ANY other day and know that they can go early before the bank opens.
Can anyone say MORON??
right wing 3/20/2013 4:42:30 PM ReportWow...92 comments.
87 of them made with an I.Q. level of -10, but hey it is entertaining.
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 4:47:12 PM Report88 including yours
marhorn 3/20/2013 4:48:11 PM ReportI think everybody is missing some important info. It looks like two females in the photo in disguise. Layered clothing...small face features. Just my opinion!!
Jamie333 3/20/2013 4:50:22 PM ReportJust another typical day in the sewer.
Entity 3/20/2013 4:54:15 PM ReportSeriously, if they can find out where those matching toques were sold, they can probably catch these two fellas.
I understand that would actually take some real detective work, so, they'll probably get away with it.
LillyGirl 3/20/2013 4:57:17 PM Report the police went my work ( in the mall) and told us they waited until the girls starting opening their posts and smashed thru the window and held them up ....they got away with alot of money apparently
RichyRich 3/20/2013 4:59:55 PM Report@SuzyQ will you shut up already about the young society already. Maybe seeing that your probably old as dirt, get your pop bottle glasses fixed and look at the picture. These two look like grown men. This is at least two posts from you on different articles attacking the young generation. Don't be mad if your boss is half your age.
Working Man 3/20/2013 5:01:13 PM ReportWhatever gets attention, gets repeated.
Working Man 3/20/2013 5:02:34 PM ReportThat guy seems to be walking all hunched over when he's entering the bank. Looks just like that skinny dude who robbed Macs.
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 5:04:51 PM ReportCan't we all just get along. We have a job to do for the police. If we the public don't solve this case the police at the next council meeting may not get there budget increased. That means those 100 k salaries will not increase.
They must protect our Tim Hortons.
right wing 3/20/2013 5:09:34 PM Reportsootodayreader
I would argue with you but you're an idiot...and as such I would have to digress to your level where upon you would beat me with experience.
SuzyyQ 3/20/2013 5:10:25 PM Report@ Richie Rich, I have the right to my opinion. Your post makes YOU look like an ass. And if you must know, I started working when I was 15 and worked for over 3 decades. Hard work never hurt anyone, which is the point I was making. And furthermore, if you take a close look at the photo in this news story, you can clearly see that these people are standing on two feet and not rolling in a wheelchair so STFU.
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 5:12:18 PM ReportRight Wing you spend your whole day on this site.
You couldn't get any lower
right wing 3/20/2013 5:15:16 PM ReportI'm betting that many of those with criticisms of the police have experienced a ride in the back seat of a cruiser.
Worn the chrome bracelets as they say.
Those that are respectful may have been victims of those that had to ride in the back.
right wing 3/20/2013 5:18:06 PM ReportHahahahaha....with a moniker like sootodayreader...I was right you are living in a village and gainfully employed!
right wing 3/20/2013 5:21:42 PM Report...did you need me to explain that one to you.
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 5:24:52 PM ReportRight Wing just because people aren't talking highly of the police in this city doesn't mean they have worn brackets as you say.
Maybe it's the love triangles, police corruption etc etc people have read about that has made this police department well known across Canada.
right wing 3/20/2013 5:28:40 PM ReportYou gotta love the internet Sootodayreader...you can say anything you want.
..."well known across Canada."
Really.
Do tell, or are you just practicing for a job at another village.
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 5:33:20 PM ReportRight Wing you like being the heavy around here telling people what to think and how to act.
Obviously you don't work. Your here 24/7
right wing 3/20/2013 5:40:20 PM ReportOf course...deflect from the real issue.
I did not tell you how to think, I simply pointed out what I viewed as flawed weak minded thinking.
Let me know the next time somebody spits on your work clothes (I'm assuming you have some) and you restrain yourself and just back away.
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 5:49:58 PM ReportInteresting way of putting it. So you are the strong mind and us weak minds need direction.
Wow, what movie is playing in your head.
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 5:53:13 PM ReportRight Wing ------Hitler
mmbears 3/20/2013 5:57:27 PM ReportQuestion:
Has anyone ever had a wet fart? Oh my god, worse feeling ever!!!
right wing 3/20/2013 5:58:13 PM ReportNo not "us weak minded", I was aiming that at you directly.
...a Hitler comment...how predictable.
You lose.
...look that one up.
Have a good day and don't miss the bus back to your village.
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 6:03:33 PM ReportYes führer
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 6:08:59 PM ReportIf we are lucky, tomorrow the headline will read Timbit Bandits apprehended at Tim Hortons.
It's our only hope.
J120 3/20/2013 6:10:26 PM ReportYou people are just plain stupid if you don't understand why the SSM police is putting this on here for our community to see. Police officers are supposed to ask the people in their community for help. With only minimal evidence, what the hell do you expect them to do??? You never know if someone could have seen something or might even know the person who did it. It's called Community Policing.
Of course all you people who hate the police don't understand this but for most people, including myself, I would want to help out as much as I could instead of sitting on my computer bitching about my opinion and what COULD have been done. If all you people have so much to say, get up and DO SOMETHING about it. Stop judging the police officers in this Community. Sadly, stuff like this happens all around the world. The police officers of SSM aren't going to be able to solve every damn crime that happens in this city. They can't do all the work themselves, therefor, they ask the community for help.
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 6:19:07 PM ReportObviously not. The Credit Union was robbed years back with the now Chief of Police standing in line.
Of course this department needs the public to solve crimes.
It shouldn't be the sole source of solving crimes in this city.
J120 3/20/2013 6:25:42 PM Reportsootodayreader : If you haven't noticed, times are changing. Social media plays an enormous part in our lives and also in solving crimes. Look at how many people alone just commented on this, it's a much easier process to post something on here with hopes that someone will be able to help out. I'm positive that the police officers also went around and asked everyone in the area if they had seen anything. It's a lot easier to post something online for others to see then going door to door asking around for clues... And I'm sure there's a good enough reason as to why they never caught the other person. If they had a gun, pretty sure you wouldn't risk your own life for a couple hundred bucks that this guy would end up stealing.
braaap104 3/20/2013 6:34:37 PM Report@J120... The police officers in this city can't solve any crimes let alone all of them they are too busy committing their own. For example covering the trails of other officers corrupt "mistakes".
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 6:35:33 PM ReportLet's look at it this way. We have 3 separate robberies in a short amount of time. Pictures were posted to social media. No arrests because the police are totally reliant on the public to solve there cases.
Come on, this police force sits at Tim Hortons waiting for a rat. That is not police work.
Taxes are going up to pay for what. 100k Coffee Shop guards, please.
Grace 3/20/2013 6:38:15 PM Reportsootodayreader loves Right Wing
J120 3/20/2013 6:43:52 PM ReportOkay, enough with the Tim Hortons and Police officer jokes.... What canadian doesn't like Tim Hortons? Let's be real here.
Like I've already said, there's only so much they can do!!!!! Like holy cow. I'm sure they're doing all that they can despite what you think. I mean with only so much information, there's a limit as to what they can do.... If you have such an opinion about this topic, why don't you go to school to become a police officer?? You sound like you could do a swell job.
J120 3/20/2013 6:45:44 PM ReportAnd to braaap, do you know how much shit gets spread around about police officers.... These are all just things that people are saying. It could be true but it could also be false. Police officers cover their friends asses just as I'm sure you would do too.
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 6:46:48 PM ReportI can't eat that many donuts. It's not for me.
J120 3/20/2013 6:50:42 PM ReportIf you were hoping that comment was funny... It's not.. Every canadian eats donuts and drinks coffee. Like give it up
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 6:51:47 PM ReportNot for 8hrs a day.
J120 3/20/2013 6:55:25 PM ReportI'm pretty sure it's impossible to sit there and eat donuts for 8 hours.... You aren't the brightest bulb around are you?
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 6:56:35 PM ReportSlow dunk
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 7:02:33 PM Reportwww.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/01/25/calgary-police-racing-tim-hortons-discipline_n_2554133.html
Poshkitty 3/20/2013 7:04:46 PM ReportIt seems that alot of people expect the police to have crystal balls or have a sixth sense...or maybe expect crime to be solved in an hour like your favorite drama series. ;)
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 7:07:16 PM ReportHow many years has it been since the Northern Credit Union robbery. 15-20 years.
Your right they need more time
SuzyyQ 3/20/2013 7:07:52 PM ReportI'm surprised that no one has mentioned the Life Labs. The lab in Cambrian Mall opens at 7:30 AM, and I recall people lining up outside before they opened. Perhaps someone who was there waiting to get blood work done may have seen some suspicious vehicle/activity?
BlondeBarbie 3/20/2013 7:08:21 PM Report@BlackHelix
hahahahaha, i didnt realize i would be called names for expressing a possibility...
i didnt say that bank robbers respected hours of operation, or respected anything for that matter! so thanks for your ridiculous sarcasm! It is a possibility that they did smash the glass doors, but they had to have known that someone would be there after 7am, with cash....lots of it.....opened and not secured around that time?!? Maybe also knowing that women would be working that particular morning that could be easily held up and most likely do whatever the "bank robbers" as you put it...ask them to do?!? according to the ppl working that day....."they waited until the girls working opened their posts".... how can you possibly know when the ppl working there have their posts open and money out when the doors are closed, and you can't directly see them from the doors??
i wont stoop to your level and start calling you names hahaha i will laugh at how you couldn't think that this could be a possibility!
J120 3/20/2013 7:13:55 PM Report@Poshkitty COULDN'T AGREE MORE!
@sootodayreader : Not all crimes are solved.... Do you really care that much that a crime 15 to 20 years ago hasn't been solved yet?? I doubt it. So give it up already. Police officers aren't psychic and do their job properly or else they would be fired. If they only received so much information well there's not much they can do about it... I don't understand how you don't get that?? They aren't magical and sure as hell aren't going to solve every crime.
You sound like quite the detective, why don't you start your own investigation... I'm sure you'd find out it's a lot harder then you think.
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 7:49:26 PM ReportEver wonder why the Tim Hortons never got robbed?
maltese 3/20/2013 7:49:26 PM ReportMy, my. The entertainment on this one article has been a laugh a minute today. There have been some real cruel remarks made to each other & to our fine police department. Then there were the statements that were completely off-topic. I read some pretty mature, trying to help out statements, & then there were those from the idiots/morons who obviously have no life......
maltese 3/20/2013 7:54:00 PM ReportIf you look sideways at the blue bag with the yellow stripe being held by one robber, it looks like it says "fly". Now that bag may be a clue, don't you think? And I don't believe it was an inside job. That is my bank & I don't recognize either one. They have likely been casing the bank for a long time so I'm sure the police will be review all mall surveilance tapes for the past little while.
Chantelle21 3/20/2013 7:55:03 PM ReportThe police were definitely trying and out working on this today! I work across the street from maitland and an officer came and checked our security cameras that were pointed towards the mall and also questioned us as we were also at work or travelling to work at this time!
Chantelle21 3/20/2013 7:56:01 PM ReportI meant highland ford
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 7:59:58 PM ReportWere they plain clothed or in uniform police who came to look at the cameras
BlondeBarbie 3/20/2013 8:05:40 PM Reportoh lord.....im not saying that it was actually someone that works there??!? i really shouldnt have to explain what an inside job consists of....why is it so hard for ppl to grasp this thought? but im glad you could eliminate every single employee that works there, just by seeing the eyes of one suspect and no facial features of the second....? lol
J120 3/20/2013 8:17:33 PM Report@sootodayreader - THE POLICE ARE ACTUALLY DOING THEIR JOB.... Stop looking for things to knit pick at.
Take your negativity and stupid ass comment somewhere else. You have been proven wrong so stop trying to fight this. Tim Hortons was never broken into because there is ALWAYS people in there... I've never been to one without at least a handful or more of people.
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 8:26:18 PM ReportYour right. TD bank was empty so they robbed it.
Thumbs up to you Colombo
PalmerM 3/20/2013 8:31:49 PM ReportTim Hortons on Trunk was robbed by three masked guys with bats a few years ago
J120 3/20/2013 8:32:32 PM ReportThere was only employees in there... lol it doesn't even open till 8
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 8:42:53 PM ReportThat makes sense.
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 8:44:11 PM ReportPalmer did they get caught?
Chantelle21 3/20/2013 8:49:08 PM ReportDoes anyone else think that it may be someone who just redid the construction in the bank... Saw exactly how things work and run on a daily basis.... Just a thought
PalmerM 3/20/2013 9:05:46 PM ReportYes, the dogs were actually able to track them as there was no getaway car waiting. Three 17 year olds i believe
Riverpilot 3/20/2013 9:06:38 PM ReportFirst and foremost, I was very hesitant to include my comments on this case but out of pure disgust, I need to make a statement. Regardless of how people perceive the operations within our police department or judicial system, the point is, a crime has been committed and we should all be happy that no one was hurt. Yes, there are desperate people out there and we all see the news around the world daily, of supressed communities and brutal acts of violence. Our society today has changed so dramatically with the availability of technology and the ability to basically do anything at our finger tips. We are constantly bombarded with information, good and bad, especially on television. Try tuning in to a station without experiencing crime or violence in some form or another. Television today is total crap with reality shows and abnormal human behavior that is unacceptable......and guess what? Our children grow up watching this crap and become desensitized to things such as violent deaths (CSI, crime shows, violent gaming, etc.) I remember growing up in the 60's and 70's, most people had respect for one another and you would never hear of mass shootings, gang rapes and so forth! I just can't imagine what the future will entail for our grand children. Look what goes on especially in the U.S.!
Aside from everything said, a crime was committed today and if everyone would stop being so bloody negative and be more constructive in their thoughts/actions, maybe the Sault wouldn't be such a bad place to live. It's idots like most of you who commented on this article who expect hand outs for nothing and in turn give the Sault such a bad name. Only you can make a difference in your life. I did....and I worked hard for it while those low lifes (as I grew up) were too busy smoking dope, partying, often committing violent acts for fun and listening to hard acid rock! Don't come crying to me if you missed the train in life......but remember, it's never too late! Never give up! I'm confident these perpetrators will get nailed! Mark my word!!!!!!!!
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 9:09:54 PM ReportTy. Good thing for the k9 dog.
J120 3/20/2013 9:12:55 PM Report@sootodayreader looks like you were proved wrong again.... ha ha ha.
lizzy_1972 3/20/2013 9:15:56 PM ReportI think that all you lame asses sitting behind a computer speculating need to get a life. The police deserve a lot of credit for what they do every day.
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 9:19:44 PM ReportJ120 how so?
Without the dog doing the detective work or someone ratting the guys out the Tim Hortons case wold not have be solved. I bet Davies was in line when it happened.
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 9:23:09 PM ReportRiver Piolot did you read what you wrote....
Practice what you preach,lol
J120 3/20/2013 9:41:34 PM ReportThe police officers train those k9 dogs.... like wow you are so dumb. You clearly have nothing better to do with yourself other then knit pick at things that dont even matter..
Riverpilot 3/20/2013 9:42:33 PM ReportSootodayreader: Of all the postings with regards to this matter, you sit pretty close to the top of the heap! You ought to get a life and stop being so negative! I can't believe I'm even wasting my time making this comment to you but someone really needs to tell you to just %$&@-off and get a life!
AceOfBass 3/20/2013 9:57:43 PM ReportBank robbers are a dying breed.With today's technology how much would they get.Their take was not much as tellers don't have cash at the stall they have to retrieve it from the cash machine.
Undisclosed amount that says nothing.Just look around for people with dye all over their face or just check vehicles stuck in the snow with smily face shopping bags.
jojoe71 3/20/2013 10:09:55 PM ReportWhat they were wearing is not a touque; it's called a bela clava; i've never seen one so fancy looking. they probably shop lifted them also. Also the pics are much better than the ones from the theft at future shop awile back. I don't think they got them two either...maybe it's the same team.
jojoe71 3/20/2013 10:18:13 PM ReportAlso after studying that picture top left I would surmise that guy is just doing a guy thing....scratching his gonads :)
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 10:26:37 PM ReportJ120 the dogs are trained before this force gets them.
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 10:32:21 PM ReportRiver Pilot practice what you preach. You trashed the city, your childhood friends and the people on this forum.
Be positive
BlackHelix 3/20/2013 10:32:23 PM ReportOMG I *almost* missed this...
BlondeBarbie 3/20/2013 8:05:40 PMReport
oh lord.....im not saying that it was actually someone that works there??!? i really shouldnt have to explain what an inside job consists of....why is it so hard for ppl to grasp this thought?
It's hard for people to grasp because you don't know what inside job means. Yes....it means that the crime was committed from someone INSIDE the organization. No....it doesn't mean that the thieves were inside the bank when they robbed it.
BlackHelix 3/20/2013 10:34:28 PM Report@sootodayreader
I think you've reached your comment limit for the day grandpa. No one cares
J120 3/20/2013 10:36:24 PM ReportThe police officers train those k9 dogs.... like wow you are so dumb. You clearly have nothing better to do with yourself other then knit pick at things that dont even matter..
Shortcut 3/20/2013 10:56:37 PM ReportSootodayreader, the dogs are not trained before the cops get them, you are wrong on that one too. You obviously have the Internet so how about a little fact checking before your next soapbox rant.
J120 3/20/2013 11:04:09 PM ReportLooks like sootodayreader mightve taken the hint and effed off lol. Well i hope so at least!!
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 11:31:58 PM ReportCanine Training Program at the OPP Academy Canine Training Centre in Gravenhurst.
sootodayreader 3/20/2013 11:38:45 PM ReportJustice will be done with a new canine joining Sault Ste. Marie Police Service.
The new recruit, Justice, is a full-bred German shepherd. He was born on March 20, 2011 at a southern Ontario kennel used to supply dogs to Ontario Provincial Police. The provincial force then makes canines available to the municipal service.
jojoe71 3/20/2013 11:39:27 PM Reportmy mistake...it was a touque and a bella clava.. I saw the picture more clearly on the sudbury evening news. Also it said they smashed a window and had a gun.
jojoe71 3/20/2013 11:42:37 PM ReportI guess they didn't need the touque. It was just a fashion statement. Nice touch.
Sam C 3/20/2013 11:47:30 PM ReportA couple of points...
Alystr... that is a completely erroneous statement!
No one robs a bank -- or a corner store or gas bar -- because they are behind on their household bills.
The banks posted hours are 8 to 8, but staff arrives prior to that. There is work to be done before and after the hours when customers are admitted.
As for having guards, most banks -- Canada Trust was one of the first -- use a central cash dispensing machine, like an ATM for tellers. Tellers no longer have cash at their wicket, so the likelihood of such a robbery occurring is quite low.
The TV news report at 1130 pm went into a bit more detail -- the suspects broke the window to gain entry, and then brandished a hand gun once inside.
libster 3/21/2013 12:01:46 AM ReportHey Blondebarbie... Blackhelix is just an "angry elf" and a waste of skin.... I'm with ya on your comments!
Tag33&1/3rd 3/21/2013 12:09:58 AM ReportI think some of the commenters should be investigated! As I know for a fact a lot love seeing their activities posted and talked about on here---OXY is the prob!
Also--JEEEEZUS!!! Give the police a break in the comments trashing them!! Too bad our real names aren't posted and some of you need the police sometime!(But the police would not hold it against you)--as much as some of you would deerve it. WOW commenters!
sootodayreader 3/21/2013 12:21:27 AM ReportIf the k9's could drive there would be a lot of cops out of work.
Tax payers would save a bundle. No more bullet ridden cars, no law suits, no love triangles, no cocaine evidence disappearing, no over paid donut shop security guards etc etc etc
libster 3/21/2013 12:40:47 AM ReportThe Police are doing the best they can... They have been hired to do a job and that is what they are doing.. you cannot blame a doctor because his patient developed cancer... the doctor can only treat the illness not predict it!!
BlackHelix 3/21/2013 12:46:19 AM ReportHey BlondeBarbie
Yeah, It would go on and on in circles. It's called circular reasoning. And if you're going to quote someone - it's a good idea to ACTUALLY quote them. I mean, it's not really hard, you just have to scroll up a little. I guess we can add lazy to the list...
And oh boo hoo I called you a name, get over it. If you don't want people to comment on your stupidity - don't post anything. Oh what, you think because you typed a few words on the internet everyone has to be nice to you?
libster 3/21/2013 12:54:38 AM ReportBlackhelix..... groan.....blah blah blah..
houston 3/21/2013 10:27:35 AM ReportWhy can't the banks use some of the billions of profits they make and hire a security guard. It's not the fault of the police that somebody robbed this bank. Obviously policies will have to be changed at the bank on how they operate. A young officer was shot and killed in Ottawa in the line of duty recently. We should all have the utmost respect for our law enforcement.
Stugatzu 3/21/2013 11:00:10 AM ReportActually.. you can see clearly from the pictures that they're toques and neck warmers. A "balaclava" is a one piece head and face covering. They come in a few different styles -- but they are all one piece design. Its clear that they're wearing two items, one to cover their hair and one to hide the face.
There's no such thing as a belaclava..
As far as the robbery, a bank employee was inside the bank pre-opening (as it is common practice). These two suspects forced entry and had a gun/pistol of some kind pointed at the employee. I don't know the employee personally, but I know the family and was relayed this information.
Stugatzu 3/21/2013 11:01:03 AM ReportNo such thing as a bella clava either
Working Man 3/22/2013 10:20:02 PM ReportThe first guy looks like he's swaying back and forth in his first couple of steps shown above. Probably a blevins... Haha...