An invitation to talk city budget
Friday, March 15, 2013 by: SooToday.com Staff
NEWS RELEASE
SAULT STE. MARIE
RATEPAYERS ASSOCIATION
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Let’s talk city budget
A Sault Ratepayers public open meeting is scheduled for April 3, 2013 in the Russ Ramsay Room from 7- 9 p.m. with the purpose of discussing the 2013 municipal budget currently before council.
There have been in the past year public meetings hosted by the City Finance Committee to obtain public input.
As ratepayers, we value the effort and contributions of open meetings held this year hosted by the City Finance Committee and recognize how important meetings such as these are in the development of open conversation with regards to the budgetary process.
It is common practice that in order to have any meaningful dialogue pertaining to a topic, research and careful review of all available material can and will garner a better understanding and input from the public.
Now that the 2013 budget has been released to the public as of March 15 we are informing the ratepayers of Sault Ste Marie who have an interest in the financial process to take the time to come out and actively participate in this Ratepayer hosted public meeting.
Copies of the 2013 Municipal budget will be available for review.
An invitation has been extended to the City Finance Committee asking for their participation as guides and resource to those that attend.
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newcon 3/15/2013 10:40:32 AM ReportStart off by firing Joe Fratesi.
SERIOUSLY.
NEWCON
Grace 3/15/2013 10:45:31 AM ReportWhy?
Has he not done his job well?
I think he has.
newcon 3/15/2013 11:06:41 AM Report@grace...let me guess, you're his special niece or a "recipient of unspecified influence". He's made S.S.Marie famous for everything other than positive growth and ethical mechanics. Business people from out of town were confused as to what his position really was...was he "Mayor" or CAO??? He wouldn't have cut it any where else in the country. And we'll leave Mayor John Rowswel out of this one.
OMGWTF 3/15/2013 11:50:34 AM ReportPut everything on line so we can review it and respond. That includes notes/minutes from the meetings
Sam C 3/15/2013 11:53:59 AM ReportNewcon... whatever he WAS at one time, he is now the CEO. Has he done a poor job as CEO? I don't believe so.
Sometimes one needs to set aside personalities and just look at the job that's being done.
Grace 3/15/2013 12:31:43 PM Report@grace...let me guess, you're his special niece or a "recipient of unspecified influence".
You take your paranoid pills today??
Nope no relation or recipient.
newcon 3/15/2013 12:34:56 PM Report@sam c...which is exactly where I'm coming from. Nothing emotional...this guy is not "The Right Man for the Job". If anybody thinks that I submit a comment to this "Peyton Place tabloid" just to spew my "intellect or wisdom" think again...I'm only relaying facts.
Socialist hero Vladimir Lenin once said "ignorance is the only darkness"...hey everybody are the lights on at City Hall yet???
Newcon
KMF61MCF 3/15/2013 12:51:42 PM ReportNewcon you are absolutely 100%. We do not need his Position. He so nicely gave himself. And stop the 8 workers standing around a hole watching 1 person work. I had a City Dump truck park in front of my house roll his driver side window down put his feet on the window frame lean back and put his hat over his eyes for a nap. I thought ARE YOU SERIOUS. i yelled hey get the hell back to work and took his picture. The nerve!!!!!!
Grace 3/15/2013 1:18:48 PM ReportJust wondering? Why are you two so hopped up on Joe? Wasn't the article about discussing the city budget?
KMF61MCF 3/15/2013 2:00:05 PM ReportCutting the CAO Position is reducing the Budget costs.It is a Position that is not necessary we have a Mayor. When the previous CAO retired so should the position. But Fratesi made sure he got himself that job.
rcssm69 3/15/2013 2:28:13 PM Reportnewcon...you wrote:
If anybody thinks that I submit a comment to this "Peyton Place tabloid" just to spew my "intellect or wisdom" think again...I'm only relaying facts.
Socialist hero Vladimir Lenin once said "ignorance is the only darkness"...hey everybody are the lights on at City Hall yet???
Newcon
I don't think you're spewing intellect or wisdom...I just think you're an a**hole!!! And I love the way you sign your name at the end of posts!!!
rcssm69
Grace 3/15/2013 2:44:03 PM ReportSorry but the job of CAO and mayor are very far apart.
Joe manages city operations where the mayor is head of council.
Get a grip.
AceOfBass 3/15/2013 3:15:13 PM ReportGood topic, what should be done is slash the spending and balance the books.
Do we really need a CAO position?
The answer to that is yes.
The reason for that is the Mayor position is only part time as are the Councillors.
Mayor and council do not have the smarts to actually run the city.They do not have a clue as to who does what and what the importance of the position.The running of a city is a complex operation with the right people do the job.
Having a Mayor who has no clue in what to do actually shows.We now have a mayor who is only part time requesting a deputy mayor.What is up with that?
Do we have a deputy CAO? No we do not.So why a deputy Mayor. Nonsense.
The CAO is the individual hired by Mayor and council to operate the city on their behalf.
If were not for the CAO Joe Fratesi over the past 25 years.Mayor and council would have bankrupt this city we would be the Detroit of northern Ontario.
AceOfBass 3/15/2013 3:26:04 PM Report City Budget
Slash funding to EDC and put under Planning Dept.Have funding on a basis project. Reporting to Mayor savings of 1.5 million.
Cut funding to Innovation Centre $277,000 savings.
Cut funding to outside Agencies ,Norgoma,Bushplane ,Museum ,AU,Sault College.savings approx 2 million.
Mayor and council travel budgets reduced to with in Province only.
City staff travel cut.
this is me 3/15/2013 3:47:18 PM ReportFire the biggest loser-JOE FRATISI!!
Grace 3/15/2013 4:49:31 PM ReportSlander?
I'm In 3/15/2013 5:54:23 PM ReportNo Sam C he is the CAO not CEO, would you like an expalnation on both, and NEWCON you are right fire him, he told Allan Jackson the former CAO to retire because he would be the next CAO without any competitions/interviews being held for the position
And for the 2013 municipal budget put a freeze on city employee wage increase and have more user fees for services if you want them, everyone else is taking a two year wage freeze, I did and ESSAR Steel will follow.
AceOfBass 3/15/2013 7:42:12 PM ReportYou cannot fired the CAO Joe Fratesi without just cause.Doing so would open this city to a multimillion dollar lawsuit.
Time for you all to get over this anti Fratesi as anymore comments about the CAO borders on slander.
The CAO Joe Fratesi like him or dislike him he is not going anywhere.He has been a blessing to this city keeping it financially stble.
The mayor's and councils have come and gone and some had some pretty scary ideas,like the millions wasted on the EDC and Innovation Centre two examples of wasted tax dollars.
newcon 3/15/2013 8:18:32 PM Report@rcssm69...you quote my words and then refer to me as an "A^&%hole" or something like that, my question to you is are you not intelligent enough to state your own opinion(s)?? I would not submit anything...and I mean anything that I did not firmly believe in and had evidence as proof. Time has answers for everyone.
FYI...slander and personal attacks are a substitute for the lack of a supporting argument or the inability to argue intelligently. Civil discourse anyone??? I take the vitriol as poor humour...it does not bother me...really. And I don't care if you refer to me as an ASSHOLE why mince the word with symbolic substitutes???
N E W C O N
cooper2006 3/16/2013 12:07:23 AM Reporthey newcon... why not just right your real name if you want attention?
you remind me of that overweight comic book salesman on the Simpsons.....or Newton on Seinfield
NEWTON
rcssm69 3/16/2013 8:06:27 AM Reportnewcon,
If you ever produce an intelligent conversation, I will gladly discuss! Until then???
rcssm69
newcon 3/16/2013 9:43:26 AM ReportA conversation is a verbal exchange between two or more (breathing) people whereas these are written comments or statements. Get educated will you...and then maybe we'll converse but you won't last. And who in the hell are the "Simpsons"...do they have anything to do with the "Science Channel" or the "History Channel", are they spokesmen for NASA or some other intellectual entity???never heard of them.
NUKE
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