Police officer punched at SAH

sweetthing 2/28/2013 8:20:57 AM Report

I think its time to forget the young offenders act and start giving names crime has increased a lot since that came into effect . He will get a slap on the wrist and be let go so many getting away with their crimes

TFinn 2/28/2013 8:37:32 AM Report

It’s amazing in a place that is meant to help people has a number of incidences involving violent outbreaks. So you have to wonder why ..? When people are sick they want help, not someone that is there just to take info and shuffle paper and people around. I know it’s a must to take info an do that, however it can be done with care and genuine empathy for the person wanting and needing care. When someone is truly ailing they want help and TLC and deserve it, and as expeditiously as possible.

I’m not saying the staff are not compassionate, for the most part they are, but it just takes one person to make someone’s visit to the ER a horrific ordeal, and that’s when tempers and emotions can take over and result in some ordeal. No …it’s not right for someone to act out, but it will happen if someone is treated poorly especially when they are not well. Any staff member in the health care industry must realize they are more than just an employees, they are really ambassadors of TLC.

However when someone comes in drunk or under the influence, that’s a horse of a different color, and should be treated completely different. Hospital security should be notified immediately so they can be on hand just in case.

No one wants to go to the ER unless they are ill or in need of medical help, I truly think it would make a difference if they are handled in a way like someone truly cares. Just my opinion..!

Jamie333 2/28/2013 8:47:42 AM Report

It's kind of funny how everyone assumes it was a young man, I know for a fact it was a girl.

phatbear336 2/28/2013 9:26:09 AM Report

Jamie333 then expose this person if you know who they are? Seeing how you know for a fact the person was female then please share the name.

Prrrrrrr 2/28/2013 10:01:48 AM Report

Mr. E perhaps you need a spanking...sounds like you believe physical abuse changes a person!!! Perhaps this person (male or female) has already had too many spankings!!!

Lostclause 2/28/2013 10:34:52 AM Report

As it stands right now you cannot discipline a child. If you spank them,it's (physical) abuse. If you yell at them it's (verbal/emotional) abuse. Ground them to their room (and thus limit their rights) it's abuse. So says CAS. We no longer get to raise our own children,rather it's now parenting by the state as enforced by CAS. So far as I have seen the results have been lackluster. We see more and more of these "children" in the news for violations each and every day.

I was on Queen Street a few weeks back and some of the local "children" were taking turns spitting on and pushing/hitting what I assumed was an elderly homeless person. He was sitting on the bench in front of the church minding his own business when a group of 4-5 kids started calling him names and spitting on him and slapping/pushing him. I told the kids to move on or I'd call the cops and the "leader" of the kids got right in my face and said "or what?". I basically told him that I'd make damn sure he wouldn't be in any condition to run when the cops got here and his response was "Go for it and I'll make sure you are charged for child abuse". Some kids nowadays know that they can literally get away with anything.

These are the same type of children that we see in the paper time after time. Whether it be for punching a cop in the face or breaking a car window for the 2 bucks in change that was in the tray. We need to stop handling them with kids gloves. People should be able to parent their children and not be afraid to have some overzealous agency step in and take them away. Not to say that CAS isn't needed, but in it's present incarnation it ends up doing more harm than good.

Koolaid 2/28/2013 10:48:40 AM Report

If the management of the Sault
area hospital paid thier security
more money. Assaults like this would
be less common. Better pay would attract
better security guards, thus making it a
safer working environment. Residents of
the city and the staff of SAH
should demand that the
management of the hospital pay more
for the security. I know i don't feel
safe when i go to the hospital, do you?

Slim Shady 2/28/2013 12:43:00 PM Report

Everybody is too caught up with making excuses for someone’s behaviour. People, including children need to be held accountable for the consequences of their actions and corresponding behaviour.

By age 10-12 kids with a proper upbringing understand right from wrong. There is no excuse for a 16 year old to have a sissy fit and punch a Police officer in the face. I doubt that the officer did anything inappropriate to warrant a punch. I seriously doubt if it was a minor hit or slap that the officer would embellish what happened. This kid disrespected authority – totally unacceptable.

As far as all you bleeding hearts that think spanking is so bad of a punishment. I grew up in a strict European household where there was lots of love but man when you stepped out of line – you got it. We were never punched or beaten but yes you got back handed hard enough to count your mom’s fingers across your mouth!

I have had only the reason (thus far lol) to spank my son a handful of times when he was 3 or 4, my daughter never (she was a good girl, lol). I instilled in them from a toddlers age that there were consequences (good and bad) for everything you do in Life. You need to make your own informed decisions. Today they are 11 and 9 and they understand what happens if they make bad decisions. They know better not to back talk – not just to their parents but to other adults as well. I know they are not perfect and no kid is but they would what is expected of them. Parents need to stop being their kids buddy and start being their parent FIRST and best friend SECOND. When I grew up I was talk that family is everything and family comes first. I have never forgotten that and neither will my kids. My Father told me when I was a young boy “What you do outside of this house reflects of me FIRST and you SECOND. Never disgrace yourself by disgracing your family.

This 16 year old kid needs to be taught values and respect. Too many spoiled people out their think that they have “rights”.

notpc 2/28/2013 1:20:44 PM Report

@ Slim Shady
There may be some who would consider your upbringing to be abuse under today's very broad definition, but I would say your parents had the right idea. I was brought up the same way as you.One thing I've noticed about people brought up to have a healthy respect for parental authority is that the vast majority of them are productive members of society today. Of course there will be exceptions but compared to the results of raising children with an inflated sense of their rights and a deflated sense of their responsibilities, I'd take the old way any day.

Koolaid 2/28/2013 2:34:59 PM Report

This isn't a child abuse issue, it is a security issue at the hospital. Stay On topic !!!

Nats85 2/28/2013 3:25:17 PM Report

And it's not a Security issue...more than likely it's a mental health issue. I used to work at the hospital and spent many hours with sickly parents or my own children in that emerge and 9 out of 10 violence situations were because the individual was a mental health client...or extremely drunk/high on some substance. So, to be fair, I don't think you can blame it on the security...but some nurses in that emerge, have poor skills when it comes to dealing with people to be honest. They think by simply IGNORING someone who is upset rather than trying to talk or reason with them is the answer. You really can't blame it on ONE person or reason. Could have been multiple reasons this situation occured.

Adam L 2/28/2013 5:14:01 PM Report

@prrrr

You want to be seen by a doctor right away go to the states or quit complaining thats what you get with free healthcare. As to people always running sah staff into the ground every time ive been there the staff has been nothing but courteous and proffessional from the security to nursing staff and doctors. If you think its bad here tery going to a big city for healthcare and then make your response. Too many assholes on here and before you say it ya ya ive been called alot worse so save your breathe and to any sah staff that might look on here keep up the good work most of these people have nothing better to do!

Prrrrrrr 3/1/2013 5:31:32 AM Report

Adam L...there is nothing FREE in Ontario...I pay taxes! Perhaps you don't and that makes it free for you. Being a taxpayer and using a service that I pay for ... I don't find it unreasonable to ask high paid professionals to be what they are being paid to do...help sick people. I have lived in very large cities and have never experienced an emergency room like the one in this city. I deal with other area's of the hospital every couple of months...excellent care. There is something wrong with the way they run this unit!!!

syndi 3/1/2013 8:36:49 PM Report

Oh yeah...... that's right.....Violence Never Begets Violence. Some of you people (not all) are extremely messed up and probably the catalyst as to why the world is the way it is today. Go ahead son.....just punch him back!

syndi 3/1/2013 8:42:16 PM Report

Do any of you have a point of view that doesn't sway with the weather? I see such dis-certainty among most of you. Opinions that change with the weather really are not opinions at all. They are just the idle ramblings of idiots.