Traffic disruptions expected at 1 p.m. todayMonday, January 28, 2013 by: SooToday.com Staff
CITY POLICE NEWS RELEASE
The Sault Ste. Marie Police Service would like to advise the pubic of an upcoming traffic disruption in the areas of East Street, Queen Street East, Brock Street and Russ Ramsay Way that will take place today.
We have been notified of a rally under the “Idle No More” movement that is anticipated to start at 1 p.m.
The “Idle No More” movement will start from the Indian Friendship Centre on East Street to the Civic Centre.
Members of the public are advised to expect delays in the affected area and where possible look to alternate routes.
Members of the Sault Ste. Marie Police Service will be on scene monitoring the situation towards ensuring the safety of all pedestrian and vehicular traffic.
Tom_Bom 1/28/2013 12:32:33 PM Report
No car, no problem.
Tommy2Toes 1/28/2013 12:35:49 PM Report
Maybe next time I walk to Tim horton's on Bay St. , I'll walk down the middle of Queen and just say I'm protesting something. I'm tired of getting dripped on from the roof over-hangs and signs...
Thim 1/28/2013 12:41:35 PM Report
TIMMINS - On the Labour Day weekend in 1988 100 forestry workers whose jobs and economic futures were in jeopardy, because of a blockade on the Red Squirrel Road, tried to slow traffic on the Lake Temagami Access Road.
The blockade was short lived, as it was met and forcefully dispersed by 300 Ontario Provincial Police officers dressed in riot gear.
Tthe measure was a little heavy handed, given the protest was peaceful, on a gravel road, not a major highway, and the protest was encouraging economic activity, rather than harming the economy.
The protest was ended
noitznotme 1/28/2013 12:45:23 PM Report
Why can't the Sault police grow some balls and make this problem right? What a bunch of cowards, chief and officers! If another, other than FN was to do this the outcome would greatly differ I myself and others would bet on it. Some tired and somewhat lunatic trucker depending on his driving hours and miles is going to snap one day and drive through all these hold ups. Don't want to see it but it will happen soon enough! It's a hypocrite movement that has no more merit than any of my bowel movements. Quit wasting our time FN. If you want equality and fairness... Then be ready for it! My guess is you won't like it.
Ricatoni 1/28/2013 12:45:59 PM Report
close down the city we dont care anymore.......the police and city hall are allowing this to take place so they should be held accountable for this crap....... after all tax payers are the ones giving them huge salaries and perks.USELESS politicians and cops stealing our money and giving nothing in return//////// sound familiar people?????????
od1exx 1/28/2013 12:47:14 PM Report
"Idle No More" is a worldwide indigenous movement started by the First Nation Tribes of Canada as a way to help protect the Constitutional Treaty Rights of the Indian Act. These rights are being threatened by the proposed C-45 Bill.
Yes, Bill C-45, to my best knowledge, will allow major Industrial operations (particularly pipelines) to cross through lakes, rivers and streams that were previously protected under Canada's environmental laws.
So on one hand we have the protection of the beautiful scenery that made Canada what it is today. On the other hand we have oil projects that will bring vast revenue into our country. The revenue may help us now, but we will never be able to get back the lakes, rivers and streams that we destroy in the process.
Now, what I absolutely do not understand is why the protesting has to block traffic and inconvenience every day people who have no control over Bill C-45. This is absolutely not how you generate support for a cause, but instead you build anger because people just want you to get off the road and let them go where they need to go.
Sam C 1/28/2013 12:50:32 PM Report
od1exx... their belief is that the people who are being inconvenienced DO have the power to affect change, by contacting their MPs and MPPs and demanding action.
I don't agree -- I think they should try and get us on their side, rather than antagonizing us into action.
Christina216 1/28/2013 12:52:19 PM Report
probably take them a whole 10 minutes to walk from the indian friendship center to city hall....relax people.
Javaman 1/28/2013 1:07:18 PM Report
There are obviously a different set of rules for natives and the rest of us. I don't buy the argument that IF they notify the police of a "peaceful " march, then the police have to let them have their way. If I notify the police that I am going to wlak down the middle of Queen Street with friends on both sides of me...do you think I would get the green light?
beanie 1/28/2013 1:07:43 PM Report
where were these protesters last week?? a tad too cold for them?? what dedication!!
TFinn 1/28/2013 1:14:47 PM Report
As I had stated before …The government is like a dog with a bone. I'm afraid that one of your chiefs in just a short time has undid any progress or any future progress by her huge lack of intellect. FN people will now have someone else to blame rather than the Feds.
High pay for herself and boyfriend , ....
Wasted funds, .....
Cadillac that runs on water and fish broth .....
Demanding more, and more and more ......
Having the Feds digging into past records and now want accountability .!!
*** PRICELESS ***
frank1 1/28/2013 1:36:00 PM Report
The Idle No More Movement is for one thing only - MONEY!!!. Negotiations are not working, protests are not working, hunger strikes are not working. My solution is to give the First Nations People each a lump sum payment and let them sink or swim or have them contribute like the rest of us and pay their fair share of taxes and enjoy the benefits. Their cry's of we want, we want, we want will fall on deaf ears until they are ready to contribute something to society.
rcamp211 1/28/2013 1:38:25 PM Report
Why city hall?
noitznotme 1/28/2013 1:44:09 PM Report
Moderators must be of FN decent! Delete delete delete. Unless posters write what the FIn FN want or what the mods want they delete.
od1exx 1/28/2013 1:49:34 PM Report
frank1, that is not what it is about. If you want to know more about Idle No More and Bill C-45 - read this!
noitznotme 1/28/2013 1:55:10 PM Report
Frank 1.... Well said except why the lump sum payment? Their sinking anyways. Giving them 3 minutes of fame on this site doesn't go far. This site is more for entertainment these days than even remotely informative.
Tommy2Toes 1/28/2013 1:55:47 PM Report
od1exx....we tried to listen to them and their concerns about Bill C-45...and then we saw the real agenda behind IDM...it's pretty hard to take them seriously on environmental issues when the reserves own shares in the companies who actually ruin the environment. When the reserves sell their stocks in Enbridge and other Oilsands projects....maybe we'll listen to them when they chirp about protecting the environment for future generations. Until then, these protests are just another meaningless and illegal way of garnering attention
od1exx 1/28/2013 2:01:47 PM Report
Tommy2Toes, which company exactly are you talking about that ruins the environment? Gas and oilsand companies do their best to not ruin the environment, but mistakes are made sometimes and have grave consequences on our land.
Which reserves own shares in these companies? Are those reserves participating in the protests?
rcssm69 1/28/2013 2:04:56 PM Report
That's a little over-the-top isn't it? It's just a small protest of about 100 people! Not the end of the world! I'm sure you were unaffected!
ThinkAgain 1/28/2013 2:05:12 PM Report
People that participate with this protest are breaking the law.
Why isn't the police force not arresting these people.
If they will not enforce the law who will?
This situation is not teaching our child anything proper.
This is NO support from this family.
burned 1/28/2013 2:10:34 PM Report
they are not getting any support...they are considered the butt end of a joke in my opinion...like a bunch of children having a temper tantrum...it will pass
Tommy2Toes 1/28/2013 2:11:02 PM Report
od1exx....they try their best not to destroy the environment???? There is no environment around the Oilsands projects because it's been dug up...polluted,cut down and thoroughly destroyed.
As far as which reserves own shares in these compaies....lets start with the reserve run by the "Inspiration" for IDM...that being Attiwapiskat....6 Nations down South....it's all a matter of Public record...Google it.
willoweep 1/28/2013 2:17:07 PM Report
Not much notice? was it done to not allow People to make other arrangements?
Just when I thought we were making some progress ,with the invitation to take part in tomorrows Ceremonies , another traffic disruption?.
It is NOT helping the cause at all.
We the regular Citizens of this City have no more influence on the Government than Native people's do ,so stop using us as a pawn .
Sleve 1/28/2013 2:20:15 PM Report
When 82 First Nations chiefs and band councillors make more than the prime minister, all while many of their people live in abject poverty, something is horribly amiss. It's not new, but it is amiss.
In Alberta alone, for example, 47 chiefs and councillors made more last year than the PM's $317,574.
We have serious reservations about that.(no pun intended)
Now, since the money these chiefs and councillors pocket is grant money from taxpayers, auditing their books in search of ne'er-do-wells and misappropriated dollars would normally receive no political push-back.
But the Liberals need ink, don't they? They're a political embarrassment in search of some buzz. So, looking for a headline grabber, along comes Liberal aboriginal affairs critic Carolyn Bennett to label the newly introduced First Nations Transparency Act -- Bill C-27 – a "racist" and "paternalistic" piece of legislation. Well done, Ms. Bennett. There's your news hit. Now please go away.
There is absolutely nothing "racist" or "paternalistic" about Bill C-27, a vital and long-overdue piece of legislation that deserves quick passage so that all Canada will finally get to know down which hole the billions in First Nations' grant money goes.
From the outside looking in, and this is what raises many hackles, it would appear that too many chiefs and not enough Indians are living the good life on the taxpayers' dime. Bill C-27 should clear up the mess up. Much like the CBC vs. the Taxpayer, First Nations band members deserve transparency and accountability from their elected officials, and they are not getting it when their leaders refuse to come clean with where the government's money goes, or how much goes into their own pockets. What is "racist" about that?
Now, you may have never heard of the Glooscap First Nation reserve in Nova Scotia but you might be interested to know that one Mi'kmaq politician there pulled in almost $1 million in pay in 2010, while band councillors each earned between $210,000 and $260,000. Now, close your eyes and try to envision just how big the Glooscap First Nation must be to warrant such mammoth salaries. Give up? Well, in 2009, the population actually living on the reserve was 87. We didn't drop any zeroes.
I just read this? Pretty wild stuff...
od1exx 1/28/2013 2:22:32 PM Report
After a Google search for: 'alberta oilsands environmental impact'
I came upon this, http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/study-finds-little-environmental-impact-from-oil-sands/article4597707/
Supposedly the environmental impact is not as bad as you are making it sound.
As far as Attawapiskat's investments in Enbridge as well as the oil sands, that is pretty messed up. To protest against, but also to support with money, is terribly hypocritical.
Church-mouse 1/28/2013 2:37:01 PM Report
Is it not time that our government put a stop to this and send them packing back to the reserve.Were else can you dredge up 200 year old crap and start new barganing. White canadians would be tossed in jail in a hart beat. Enough is enough ,get a Job.
rcssm69 1/28/2013 2:44:40 PM Report
inferno 1/28/2013 2:48:52 PM Report
Their actions are only making themselves look even worse then ever!!
Tommy2Toes 1/28/2013 3:22:08 PM Report
Time for the citizens to start making arrests...including the Police for not doing their jobs and essentially stealing our tax dollars.
Ricatoni 1/28/2013 3:24:39 PM Report
rcssm69: your right I didnt get bothered by this silly little protest. I actually had to work all day...... To me I think that FN people should rethink their campaign...you need me on your side to help you... so by trying to inconvenience me you are accomplishing nothing.....you are affectively doing the opposite of what are trying to accomplish......This I dont understand???I agree with the enviromental issues as do many non Natives..But FN have some how combined this along with their many other issues. Other issues which quite frankly I would rather not make comment about....By all means stand up for your rights but please dont try to inconvenience me to do it. Your fight is in Ottawa this is were you should demonstrating, not Queen st in SSM.....
To me, The unions who all showed up in Toronto yesterday....now this is how you should hold a demonstration but only in Ottawa... Dont close a hwy way or railroad this type of action is not working for you...............Good luck:)
Tom_Bom 1/28/2013 3:25:36 PM Report
i got a good look at the march. There were considerably less numbers there than the first protest. Very considerably.
This has been a news update brought to you by Tom_Bom. :P
TFinn 1/28/2013 3:39:49 PM Report
Why is ok for FN people to cause problems to the average citizen.?? There will be a day that the non-native public will push back, and cause problems against the FN people ..it’s just a matter of time until the FN cause problems to the wrong person or persons. As it stands at this moment you have done nothing except complain about yourselves, with the same old tune of, we deserve more more more more, and your treaties that you always bring up, they are so old and outdated they don‘t have anything to do with the modern ways of the world today. Now what’s happened, your greedy chiefs have disturbed a hornets nest, concerning money that can’t be accounted for and that alone has put a huge black mark on the entire FN people. You have become completely untrustworthy in the eyes of the general public. No one is sympathetic to your plights and since Spence wanted to shoot her big mouth off, the FN people will now have to pay, accountability is not just for the non-natives. The belief that FN people can say and do as they please is coming to an end, thanks to your greedy chief’s, who you think are there for the bands and members, they are not …they are there for themselves. It’s time to wake up and hold your own accountable first. You won’t have to search too far to see your own chiefs, and what they think of the very people that they are supposedly there to guide. They are using their own people for their own self gain. Period …Just my opinion..!
As to all police services, there are laws being bent and broke, at every turn. My advice to the police services, you better do your jobs as you were sworn to uphold, or else you too will be held accountable, because you are not above the law either.
santa-fe 1/28/2013 4:05:32 PM Report
Earlier last week there was a post about the transport trucks being stopped from passing on the highway on Jan. 28. Then this morning there was a post about Bawating day planned for today. I was starting to sway, and now I read roads are being blocked again. Swayed back again. You have no right to block traffic.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Most of the time I do not log in because I am interested in every ones opinion, however I do not agree with being held hostage from driving, and having to take another route to get there. You do not have our vote anymore.
Norm 1/28/2013 4:48:24 PM Report
The Police stand by and do nothing as far as enforcng the law is concerned. There are likely some cops who would do their job by clearing the streets, if their superiors gave them the order. The Ploice standing idle is an order from the idle political types. No pun intended.
Studlee 1/28/2013 4:59:18 PM Report
If this is allowed I see no reason why this summer a group of gay, lesbians, transgenders and others in between can't hold a peaceful gay pride march and disrupt traffic for an hour or so, on one of the busiest streets in the city. It would be a celebration, not a protest however.
jojoe71 1/28/2013 5:39:06 PM Report
I've been saying this for weeks now. I believe there are some really dirty dishonest white people in position of trust but there is also the very same kind of people from FN who are responsible for the well being of reserve residents. But that makes me a racist to imply a FN rep would do such a thing... JMHO
Jayne12 1/29/2013 12:21:13 AM Report
I agree with you 100%! Gay pride is acceptable.. nontaxpayingnatives protesting .. is bs.