Dump truck allegedly hit overhead wires. Charges laid (updated) Friday, January 25, 2013 by: SooToday.com Staff
Editors note: Mr. Pigeon maintains that the power lines were down and the streets dark when he hit the lines.
Police are unable to comment on this aspect of the case because it is before the courts.
They did confirm his statement that they found parts from the truck he was driving and were able to use those to identify the truck and its driver at the estimated time of the collision.
Pigeon says he thought he may have hit them that night because they were dangling so low when he drove through but wasn't sure because it was so dark.
He said his dump was down and in place for driving as he was bringing a load of snow to the snowdump.
He didn't want to stop at the time because there was another loaded truck close behind him.
Pigeon faces a $110 fine for the charge of fail to report accident.
Charge laid in collision involving overhead wires
As a result of the investigation into a collision during the early morning hours of the 22nd of January 2013 involving overhead wires on Second Line East, officers with Traffic Services have charged Ronald Pigeon, age 65 of 36 Silverdale Road, with fail to report accident, contrary to section 199(1) of the Highway Traffic Act.
Mr. Pigeon was operating a dump truck being used for hauling snow at the time of the collision.
If you have any information regarding these crimes, or any other crime, call Crime Stoppers at 705-942-7867 or 1-800-222-8477 (TIPS), submit an e-tip from the Crime Stoppers’ website at www.saultcrimestoppers.com or text keyword SSM with your tip to 274637. Text STOP to 274637 to cancel. Text HELP to 274637 for help.
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mikethedike 1/24/2013 3:00:27 PM Report
This guy is lucky he is not being charged with negligence causing death. It was minus 25 that night, and almost 500 people lost power because of him. Dummy!
muf 1/24/2013 3:24:42 PM Report
says Mr Perfect !
ronda 1/24/2013 4:12:32 PM Report
maybe people should know the facts before throwing out comments about other people's actions. He did knock down the wires he was charged for not reporting that they were down so learn your facts before shooting your mouth off!!
ronda 1/24/2013 4:14:03 PM Report
I mean he wasn't charged with knocking the wires they were already down.
Koolaid 1/24/2013 4:24:27 PM Report
ronda you don't make one bit of sense.
Sam C 1/24/2013 4:51:41 PM Report
ronda... he was charged with "failing to report accident." The **accident** was that he hit the wires and knocked them down. The article doesn't state, but it is likely that he drove under them with the dump box still raised.
habber 1/24/2013 4:55:31 PM Report
he should lose his job too
Wobbler 1/24/2013 5:06:37 PM Report
If the wires were hit with the dump box in the up position, it could be that the driver didn't even know he hit them.
cutandsplit 1/24/2013 5:21:08 PM Report
@habber.. what would you suggest this guy should do if he should lose his job?just asking? are you going to go and drive the dump truck and never ever make a mistake?
JJ77 1/24/2013 5:24:39 PM Report
I like how mikethedork and the others on here who like to attack people via typing can sit on their butts and rap off about things and people they know nothing about. I bet if it was your Dad or Uncle or friend who did it, you would be defending them to the bitter end. Why don't you all mind your own business and stop worrying about everyone else. Morons.
ronda 1/24/2013 5:42:52 PM Report
Just for the record this is my father we are talking about and he did not hit the wires nor was his dump truck up he had a load of snow in it. again people should shut there mouths and mind their business and know all the facts before saying someone should loose their jobs.
Studlee 1/24/2013 5:49:00 PM Report
It's easy to attack others when you hide behind a computer, i bet if Sootoday made it so that we had to use our real names, this kind of behaviour would come to a halt. That said, it's kinda hard to mind one's own business when one persons actions effect so many people. In this case, many homes lost power because of the driver's negligence and therefore it's the business of many people.
willoweep 1/24/2013 6:49:47 PM Report
Some of you People are really pathetic !.
I wonder how many 1000.s times this guy went under those wires no problems?
Mike the dike get real ,did someone die? NO .Was it cold ? course it was .
If you can stand up and say you have never made a mistake then great ,if not sit down and shut your trap!
These guys are out there in all seasons ,how many dump truck accidents do you recall ?
With all the yo-yo's that cut them off ,get right on their bumper ,where they can't see you, I say they do a hell of a good job.
The Man was out making a living,if he had hit a Person I could see some over reacting, but this is pretty petty stuff.
A wire came down STOP THE PRESSES!
His Daughter has stated that he did not pull that wire down ,is it possible he saw someone else do it and didn't report it?
We don't know ,so don't be so quick to criticize .
Even if he did pull the wire down it's not that big a deal .
Sam The Dog 1/24/2013 7:13:37 PM Report
This guy isn't the first one to do this and won't be the last, but is a real rookie mistake.
Ronda: Police just don't charge people for no apprent reason, but glad to see a daughter defend her father. That's your story and stick to it.
klsim 1/24/2013 8:13:11 PM Report
It is sad to see how critical people are. First Soo Today should change the headline of this article. He ran into the wire after it was already down and was charged for not reporting. These are the facts. People are way too quick to judge. Just remember before you judge this man sometimes things aren't quiet as they seem.
jojoe71 1/24/2013 8:29:14 PM Report
this is more fun than watching the comedy channel :)
shorty38 1/24/2013 8:34:18 PM Report
It is too bad that this accident created problems for so many persons. In my view the city should be responsible because,
(1) the city probably loaded the truck
(2( the city probably created the dump site
(3) the PUC & Bell would have been aware of this dump site and should have seen the low wires as a potential problem
(4) night time visablity could also have created a probable cause
(5) also was there pressure for the driver to get this job done as quickly as possible to save tax dollars, or just get the streets clean ASAP.
From an retired driver, been there done that.
happy camper 1/24/2013 10:17:17 PM Report
Well shorty if you knew anything you would know that where the wire was taken down there is no city snow dump. It can happen to allmost anyone. It is a MISTAKE . If you have been there and done that you would know that !
Sam The Dog 1/25/2013 6:46:08 AM Report
Willoweep: do you really believe that someone would take a fine and all this "hoop-la" for someone elses mistake?
Happy Camper: your absolutely right, it was a mistake, but the big deal here is not owning up to it. We are only human and we all make mistakes.
pidges 1/25/2013 7:41:20 AM Report
It really irks me that there are so many small minded people in the Soo Today readership area. Every dog has their day and this man may not be able to respond to these comments. Not everyone has a Soo Today account. But really, why is it that every one has a lynch mob mentality??
N1T5 101 1/25/2013 4:11:00 PM Report
@pidges No kidding. Like half of these people are perfect. pfft.
anapeg 1/25/2013 4:34:25 PM Report
Wires are downed every year, more often in the summer when less noticeable but I assure you it happens. There was but one man who never made a mistake and they hung Him on a cross so ease up on a poor mortal.
I owned mud trucks and have myself caught wires due to driving, dumping, watching for other people and equipment while spreading a load. All at the same time, try it when you get a chance. Multi tasking my a$$. In a dark field with your boss, the super on your job and the operator of the snow dump on your butt to get the hell out of the way you are not looking for downed wire as it is those in the air that will end your life. Downed wires are most often dead.
You think talking on a phone and driving is tough? Try getting a commercial license and driving a mud truck for a year then come back and we will talk.
Just Curious 1/25/2013 4:34:52 PM Report
Spent a half day one time hung up in a tree spreading shoulder gravel years ago on a road construction job. knew the trees where there,knew I had to watch for them,but the truck I normally drove had no cab shield and the spare i was driving did. The sheer embarassment that I had to endure as a seniour driver was enough to make me a lot more careful in the future(now the past). I feel bad for the driver but he should have just stopped and called in the accident. Would have saved all this crap on here and he would still have his job...(or would if he was working for me)
sumosah 1/25/2013 6:12:03 PM Report
ronda , if he was charged after the investigation by matching truck parts he obviously was overloaded and the snow probably clipped them.... REGARDLESS when he thought he "may have" clipped them thats where the negligence is in NOT reporting the possibility- valid point of 500 people without power -25 degree weather - sure accidents and stuff happens- BUT due diligence in reporting or taking the time to stop and check to see if you think you may have done someting is pretty important ...
Dead End Kid 1/25/2013 6:52:31 PM Report
It's one thing to be without power but is it possible that the line laying on the road could have been alive? Someone walking across the road could have stepped on the wire. Just saying.
I would also like to say that this sounds like an innocent situation without any malicious intent by the party involved.
shju 1/25/2013 6:53:27 PM Report
His box had to be down because he was hauling snow to the snow dump. And the fact that the truck didn't have burns from hitting the power lines would mean the power lines where already dead. I personally think he shouldn't have been charged at all. The power lines had to down far enough for him to hit and at night trying to see a black line across the street and its background is black sky would make it almost impossible to see. The people that should be charged are the people driving down the middle of 2 lanes down great northern. I would really like to know how people think its 3 lanes.
bus 1/25/2013 8:07:23 PM Report
Lets be real here, the only reason he was charged was because he admitted that he saw the lines down, and didn't report it. If he had just stayed and called the police, he would have avoided the charges. Even if he was at fault he probably would have avoided the consequences of a fine.
Ive seen Lyons delivery boom trucks take out bell lines before. There were fire trucks, ambulances, cops, the PUC and city board of works workers there. It happened on third line east between old goulais bay road and peoples road. to the best of my knowledge the operator/driver was not charged because he stayed on the scene. This driver had backed into the same driveway numerous times, but for some reason that day, the line was snatched and it was an honest mistake.
Come on people. a mistake is a mistake. whether it be ignoring the accident or causing the accident. If he hadn't come forward with this info, he would have gone through less torment, so be happy that a person in this city had the balls to step forward and admit they made a mistake.
There are people being murdered in our city that have families that never get to know who the culprit is, and your worried about a downed power/phone line culprit.
Give your heads a shake.
J.R . 1/25/2013 9:10:01 PM Report
If the wires are down would you drive in to they ??? he pull them down used your head !
J.R . 1/25/2013 9:13:25 PM Report
so if he did not pull them down who did ?I know he did .
J.R . 1/25/2013 9:14:17 PM Report
If the wires are down would you drive in to them ??? he pull them down used your head !
nitrocircus199 1/25/2013 9:55:45 PM Report
I know a guy that works for TC construction with Ron and said the exhaust cap was what clipped it that's how the police found out it was him they went looking for the truck with the missing part lol he didn't know he hit it , I personally blame PUC but hey why point fingers in every direction ... It was a mistake get over it
kamen 1/25/2013 10:59:58 PM Report
That is pretty much what most people on facebook figured....and I am wondering why were the power lines already lower than usual?
Vicci 1/26/2013 12:08:06 AM Report
I think it was a Bell fiber line running across the road that was hit. In my experience there is only one reason that a truck does not stick around after hitting anything (non human) the truck cannot mechanically or physically leave the scene. No see, no tell and hope for the best. It is not the $110 fine, it's the repair bill of what was damaged that is at stake.
JitterinOnRitalin 1/26/2013 12:52:43 AM Report
hey sootoday maybe you should wait next time... might want to start looking to get a lawyer.
Wobbler 1/26/2013 5:44:45 AM Report
Can you please tell me why SooToday needs a lawyer when all they did was post a report sent to them by the city police? Local 2 had the exact same article.....so do they need a lawyer too?
hanscrapton 1/26/2013 8:04:11 AM Report
you people have to much time on your hands..get a job...REALLY....
crashed13 1/26/2013 10:19:43 AM Report
@ habber 1/24/2013 4:55:31 PM Report
"he should lose his job too"
Then you would have no dump truck drivers.
Hitting over head wires is very very common in that line of work.
willoweep 1/26/2013 11:10:43 AM Report
Sam The Dog there wouldn't have been all this hoopla if People were not so quick to find ,and point out mistakes of others.
"I know a guy that works for TC construction with Ron and said the exhaust cap was what clipped it that's how the police found out it was him they went looking for the truck with the missing part lol he didn't know he hit it."
It was a small Metal flap ,it's dark, the truck is noisy ,your Buddy is on your tailgate .
So ok he thought he might have clipped it ,he could have stopped ,but do you really suppose the PUC were not immediately called by at least one of the 500 who noticed the lights went out?
I really hope that TC Construction stands behind their employee,and he's still hauling Snow .
Maybe the people who want this guys job taken away ,should let the City know they don't want Snow removed in front of their house anymore .
muf 1/26/2013 12:17:14 PM Report
"Maybe the people who want this guys job taken away ,should let the City know they don't want Snow removed in front of their house anymore "....... LOL
crashed13 1/26/2013 12:54:49 PM Report
I feel bad someone in the PUC had to go fix some wires and leave his warm parked truck.
awesome1 1/26/2013 11:58:08 PM Report
this guy admitted to taking down the wires,, it left hundreds of people without power and bell phone service,,, which in tempatures of minus 25 or there abouts ,, is really causing trouble for the innocent victims,,,, Mr. Pigeon,, should have contacted the appropriate people immediately,,,, given his years of work,, he should have known who to contact!..tsk tsk,,,,,
Terpi 1/28/2013 8:21:37 PM Report
I have never heard so much drivel in my life. Whatever happened to "Innocent until proven guilty" So many people want to hang a guy when he is not guilty of anything. Klu Klux Klan anyone?
I no Ron Pigeon and he is a very responsible driver. He would never do something as stupid as what people are saying and whatever stupidity the police have charged him with.