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Elementary school teachers back at work this morning

Friday, January 11, 2013   by: Staff
One-day political protest will not be held today

ADSB elementario schools open 

Early this morning the Ontario Labour Relations Board (OLRB) issued a cease-and-desist  order for what the province defined as an illegal strike.
Elementary Teachers’ Federation of Ontario (ETFO) issued a media release stating that they will comply with a decision by the Ontario Labour Relations Board and not hold a planned one-day political protest today.
Algoma District School Board elementary schools will be open today.
Transportation for elementary students within the Algoma District School Board is cancelled; however, parents can drop off and pick up their children at these schools today if they wish. 
All secondary students will attend classes as usual, and transportation for secondary students will be available and all other services – including community daycares and Parenting and Family Literacy Centres – are operating as normal. 
All transportation will resume for elementary students on Monday, January 14, 2013. 
The Board apologizes for the lateness of this decision, however the ruling and decisions from both OLRB and ETFO were made very late this morning.  
Our priority is the safety and supervision of students, and through the night it remained uncertain whether the Labour Board decision would be made prior to school opening
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razor25 1/11/2013 9:32:29 AM Report

So the teachers get what they want anyway as most people (including my wife and I) have already made arrangements. The latest message we had was from the board that our kids brought home after school yesterday saying that because they didn't have a decision yet, the schools would still be closed. Now I guess they reversed that but 1 hour notice when plans are already in place are not enough. I understand the teachers don't like what happened to them. I had a similar thing happen to me when I worked for the government and I didn't like it. I made a choice though and left my government employer to find work in the private sector. Teachers have a choice, deal with your circumstances RESPONSIBLY or get out and find a different career (or the same one in a different province/country).

I got a letter from the school board a few weeks ago about how it's the law that our children go to school everyday and what happens if you don't. I'm glad the teachers got the same warning now and hopefully these one day strikes will stop now.
Laser 1/11/2013 9:35:02 AM Report

Are you kidding me? Everyone has already made other plans for the day and they decided to go back. It will be a quiet day for the teachers!
scott240 1/11/2013 9:39:24 AM Report

Either way, another day off for the teachers. Unreal.
rcamp211 1/11/2013 9:42:01 AM Report

Teachers would rather be in a warm,dry,empty classroom then stand out in the rain.
Dreamer 1/11/2013 9:42:37 AM Report

Yes, teachers are at school with no move! Inside where it's nice and warm.
Corey 1/11/2013 9:47:51 AM Report

Did any of you even read the whole article? Yes I have kids in school, and I have made plans for them today But it was a Government order.
"Early this morning the Ontario Labour Relations Board (OLRB) issued a cease-and-desist order for what the province defined as an illegal strike."

You People are truly sad.Just because they were forced to end there strike and return to work, Doesn't Mean you Are forced to bring your children to the school.
Dreamer 1/11/2013 9:53:34 AM Report

Their not forcing you to do anything, jus the teachers. They have no rights!
lavendalilly 1/11/2013 9:54:23 AM Report

All this does is 100% back up my statements from the previous articles. Read this and weep all you people that support this crap- You can guarantee more parents will be rather angered by this crap than supportive.
lavendalilly 1/11/2013 9:54:23 AM Report

All this does is 100% back up my statements from the previous articles. Read this and weep all you people that support this crap- You can guarantee more parents will be rather angered by this crap than supportive.
razor25 1/11/2013 9:54:45 AM Report


We know we don't have to bring them to school. Most of us are not because we've already made other plans. Don't YOU read the posts?
Polis 1/11/2013 9:58:10 AM Report

No, teachers did not get what they wanted at all. This decision from the Labour Relations Board came after 4 o'clock this morning. Maybe they should have called all the parents in Ontario to let them know that they would not be inconvenienced after all.... A sad day for democracy and workers in Ontario, to be denied the right to peacefully protest.
W. Yote 1/11/2013 9:59:28 AM Report

Corey you miss the point completely. The teachers union should not have planned this illegal strike to begin with AND out of courtesy should have at least given more notice so this could have been dealt with before 4am.

People are not upset that they have to bring their kids to school, they are upset they had to make the arrangements in the first place, more money out of the publics pockets. Plus now we have to pay these teachers a day for doing nothing.
Dreamer 1/11/2013 10:05:58 AM Report

It wasn't a was a protest.
wgator 1/11/2013 10:06:10 AM Report

These teachers should not be paid for the day, and further more the parents should be compensated for the lost wages and cost of any other day care provider.Like i said yesterday you don't want to work move over , what makes teachers so much more speacial than everyone else , they have been riding the cash cow for to long.

osirisptah 1/11/2013 10:06:32 AM Report

This wasn't a choice by the teachers. This was forced on them by their union. From what I hear from a lot of friends who are educators is they were very upset that any of this happened at all.
golfnuttt 1/11/2013 10:08:59 AM Report

Polis you (and others) are ignorant, the union members have the right to a peaceful protest outside of working hours......
wgator 1/11/2013 10:10:25 AM Report

Protest on your own time Saturday and Sunday if its so concerning!
Dreamer 1/11/2013 10:16:17 AM Report

Teachers were willing to take a pay cut for protesting but now...they get paid for going to work.
razor25 1/11/2013 10:24:29 AM Report

Just got a call from the school letting me know they're open. Wow, really, I'll just rush the kids right over! 1/11/2013 10:25:10 AM Report

With the Ontario Labour board deeming this strike illegal, the teacher's union should plan an ontario wide day strike. What would happen the boards be forced to fire all teachers? I don't think so in order to achieve what you are fighting for you need to fire back sooner or later.
cjborg 1/11/2013 10:26:39 AM Report

To: wgator 1/11/2013 10:06:10 AM Report

"These teachers should not be paid for the day, and further more the parents should be compensated for the lost wages and cost of any other day care provider.Like i said yesterday you don't want to work move over , what makes teachers so much more speacial than everyone else , they have been riding the cash cow for to long."

I agree 100% ..... fine the Public School teachers and their Union; pay said monies to the Parents of children who incurred daycare, YMCA or lost wages costs.

Take a real good look at the Labour Board as well... are they impartial??? What was the delay problem here?? (Union and Teachers disrupted the school system for a day... they can protest at they want -- after school hours. This is another good reason to let the Public School Union and Teachers know that come 2014 a negotiated 25% reduction in pay will be sought... (hopefully at least two of the three political parties will support this goal!!)

Hire younger qualified teachers who can't get taching positions because of Teacher Union Policies and Practices... 1/11/2013 10:27:18 AM Report

These comments would be completely different if it were any of our unions or labour boards revoking our right to strike!
Batty 1/11/2013 10:29:20 AM Report

There are a lot of complaints from people being inconvenienced for one day, yet the teachers are being more than inconvenienced by bill 115 for two years.
3rd times a charm 1/11/2013 10:30:52 AM Report

FFS--this is about the right to collective bargaining...

Use your ability to reason: why was this decision made at 4a.m. when NO ONE works in government and school at that hour of the day/night.

The double "D's" are being little dictators and making decisions when parliament is not even is session; Dalton and David get to make ridiculous decisions with no one to stop them...little tyrants that they are--

Bill 115 is not just about teachers--it's about your Union rights too.

And if you can read this, thank a teacher
thumbs4208 1/11/2013 10:32:47 AM Report

I would sure like the things teachers have(holidays paid - benefits - union - decent salary) maybe they should let em all go and hire some young teachers who would love the work - get all the old jadded teachers out of there .
razor25 1/11/2013 10:34:45 AM Report


So are all government workers who've had wage freezes for two years and many benefits taken away. I was one of them, I chose to leave. Teachers have the same choice. What they don't have the right to do is strike. Hence the $2000/day fine if they do.
SLAPN 1/11/2013 10:42:17 AM Report

I support the teachers and teachcer assitants, it it not all about the teacher or money the goverment is trying to take sick day away and more not sure about you but I would rather healthy teachers in the school than sick ones so all the negative comments should be dropped bill 115 should be dropped ...

R0FL0L 1/11/2013 10:46:43 AM Report

Protests are an important part of democracy. Some might be surprised about it even in 2013.
That you still belief all the lies that Mrs. Broten is spreading and people are not getting upset about it that is scary.
That the government can put a Bill to work, use it and right away pull it again, just like that, that should scare all of us.
McGuinty knows people will now forget it again, just in time for the next election.
He very strategically changed the public anger from his government to the teachers.
If we than take the time and read the Bill 115 and realize WHAT all is included it should be cause for another huge scare AND for public protest all over Ontario.
Usually public protests are to cause some inconvenience to draw attention to the subject.
The government is using the teachers as a guinea pig.
They could have changed Teachers to essential service. But oooppsss now the government would have to deal with an arbitrator and would not be able to force a contract on them.
Interesting is the changing colours of your buddy McGuinty.
In 1997 he talked out of the other side of his mouth.
In 1997, when Ontario's teachers participated in political protest action against the Harris government, Dalton McGuinty (the then-leader of the Ontario Liberal Party) wholeheartedly endorsed the protest, even appearing at a teachers' rally at Queen's Park and stating to the crowd "I understand it's not easy. But take heart knowing you are doing the right thing." (Queen's Park, October 29, 1997) In the media, Mr. McGuinty was quoted as saying "If they [the teachers] walk out, I'll be with the teachers." (Focus Ontario, Global TV, October 18, 1997)
publicserviceworker 1/11/2013 10:50:26 AM Report


you clearly are a teacher or have a spouse that is a teacher.......heres the thing, if this has been an issue for two years then pack your personal items and move on to another job....oh wait!!! In a new job teachers wont have xmas, summer, march break etc off with out having to use a day of vacation leave..teachers would however like their cake and eat it too...
laffrenere 1/11/2013 10:54:07 AM Report

This affects EAs and other support staff too. EAs don't get salary, they get hourly wages. They don't get paid holidays and summers, they have to apply for EI. So instead of complaining about the teachers all the time, maybe try supporting the others that are involved.

Also FYI: they took away the school employees rights, which sector will be next?
Batty 1/11/2013 10:58:52 AM Report

I am a government employee and my wages are being frozen. I am ok with that. At least my union had the right to negotiate for me. I still would have the right to strike as well even though I would prefer arbitration as it is generally a fairer process. I don't think anyone ever wants to strike, but having the right is an important tool in negotiations. The money employees lose during a strike is likely not to be recovered when a contract agreement is finally settled. The government knows when a strike will happen based on what they are offering or what they are willing to negotiate for. These issues may be dictated by their current fiscal situation or whether they are a minority or majority and how much public support they have at the time. Consider the issue at hand with bill 115. If they tried to force the contract through negotiations a strike would have ensued. At first the public would be angry with the teachers, but then eventually the discontent would shift to the government. At that point negotiations would start again and a contract agreed upon. All this time the government saves a lot of money from not having paid teachers to work.
I am happy to hear that the option of leaving a job was easy for you. Teachers devote four or five years of university to get where they are. But that is not until after they work a few years as an occasional teacher to try and pay off huge student loans.
Read bill 115 and see if it sounds reasonable to you. Then ask why the government is already planning on repealing it.
razor25 1/11/2013 11:04:08 AM Report

I'm ok with the right to strike in certain jobs. Teachers are not one of them. When I get letters telling me that it's the law that my children go to school everyday and if they don't, I could get in big trouble, then I expect teachers to be there everyday to teach my kids. Like police, firefighters, etc., teachers need to deal with negotiations without the ability to strike. That's my opinion and I'm sure yours is the opposite, but that's ok, it's a free country : )
Ginga 1/11/2013 11:04:39 AM Report

That's right it's a sad day teachers were denied the right to protest but the natives can do whatever the hell they want..
Job Developer 1/11/2013 11:14:09 AM Report

The teachers and the head of the union should sit up and take notice. The government will bargain with those that truly want to do so. They just reached a collective aggreement with OPSU, they reached agreements with the other teacher unions they just could not reach an aggreement with the unions that did not want to bargain collectively. The union had the option to bargain collectively and stay at work. Only when the hostage actions were called did they cry foul. Next time they will recognize the need to truly bagain collectively and guess what you have two years to do so. The next step for teachers is to try to swing the political card instead. Once again hold the next government hostage with threats of not supporting them in an election.

A word of advice to the politicians. Step up to the plate "Do whats right for the province and you will get elected and stay elected"

It is about time the teachers got taught a lesson.
Dreamer 1/11/2013 11:17:31 AM Report

Yes Ginga it's a true fact! As long as proper notice is given!
Job Developer 1/11/2013 11:18:56 AM Report

I am happy to hear that the option of leaving a job was easy for you. Teachers devote four or five years of university to get where they are. But that is not until after they work a few years as an occasional teacher to try and pay off huge student loans.
Read bill 115 and see if it sounds reasonable to you. Then ask why the government is already planning on repealing it.


Just Curious 1/11/2013 11:20:29 AM Report

The teachers union needs to sraighten themselves out,really. Once you retire,you are RETIRED,you are not a supply teacher double dipping,you are RETIRED....Get out of the way and make room for a younger generation of teachers.If you want to work after retirement,work at something else,McDonalds and Burger King are always on the lookout for staff...Oh, wait,you would have to go to work every day and if you went on strike they could let you go....What was I thinking?
Batty 1/11/2013 11:21:26 AM Report

The government knows how much a strike (or protest) would affect the public. They also know the majority of people would direct anger at the teachers. It's a situation where they can't lose: it helps their public relations and they save money from not paying wages. Razor, I agree with you about the need for education to be deemed an essential service. But if that we're to happen the teachers would lose all leverage from job action and the government would know this and then negotiations would never be fair and done in good faith. Arbitration would be an answer but the government would never agree to that since it would be fair and not allow massive cutbacks. Don't forget that everything the teachers had was previously negotiated for. I don't agree with the cashing out of sick time but I do think they should be able to bank it in case of a serious illness.
Freezing teachers on the wage grid isn't fair to those low on the grid. They are not able to receive increases for improving qualifications through courses which they pay for by themselves and complete on their own time. Not just for the benefit of better pay but in order to possibly make themselves better teachers which in turn helps the students. I am one sided in this issue as my spouse is a teacher and so was a parent. But I have also read bill 115 and would never want legislation like that forced on me.
publicserviceworker 1/11/2013 11:21:51 AM Report


they do not devote 4-5yrs of schooling.... 3-4 yrs is a standard degree whether they become teachers or not. They are getting a degree in something, only after that is done that they go for one year to teachers college to get a teaching certificate. please call a spade a spade.....
learningaswego 1/11/2013 11:23:22 AM Report

What all publicly funded unions fail to accept, is that there IS a limit to the money available. There is no such thing as "government money", it is all money extracted/extorted from people who work or earn money themselves; or of course borrowed by governments to be paid by our children and grandchildren.
Public service unions' contracts - negotiated by spineless bureaucrats and politicians, have quietly gone under the radar for years, resulting in huge disparities between them and similar private sector jobs.
Now that we are nearing crunch time, where the public taxpayer resources, government debts and deficits can no loner be ignored and are coming home to roost; the excesses of these will no longer be tolerated by the taxpayers who pay the tab.
Any political party that has the cohones to take this on, rein it in, will be elected with a landslide. If wwe continue to give the reins of power and the public purse to leftists, who are ever willing to increase the handouts to those who take, funded by those who give, then we can expect the same problems of the EU countries that have done the same.

Fiscally prudent government - able to make changes for the long-term sustainability of what is most important to us, is first and foremeost, what is needed.
Point Blank 1/11/2013 11:25:43 AM Report

I think that the issue is plain and simple. Teachers are an essential service because the education of our children is essential. Hence, they should not be allowed to strike, or, walk off the job "in protest"! That does not preclude their ability to collectively bargain. It just removes their ability to use the well being of our children as a threat in the process.
As for any other unions right to strike...Go for it, as long as you are not an essential service! I don't agree that holding your company hostage is a great way to negotiate, but do what you like. If it backfires and the company closes, or you lose jobs to layoffs, thank your union! Once again, it will be the young people that suffer, not the long time employees.
ginjur 1/11/2013 11:35:49 AM Report

"Imposing contracts on Ontario teachers is bad policy and bad politics." Thursday, January 10, 2013
Batty 1/11/2013 11:39:06 AM Report

Lets look at why the catholic board reached an agreement. The catholic board already takes a lot of heat for being publicly funded and religion based. To go on strike would be a further PR problem. Also, bill 115 states that the catholic school board would receive anything the public school board negotiated for if it was better. That's the "me too" clause you might have seen mentioned. This isn't an issue of teachers being greedy or unhappy with their jobs. The issue is having bill 115 imposed and losing the right to bargain in good faith.
Instead of planning protests I think ETFO should focus on improving the publics awareness of the issues through a PR strategy. It is obvious that people won't read bill 115, but maybe putting the message out in an easily accessible way will help inform people.
Personally, I won't bother anyone with any further posts. Don't take my views as being anti catholic as I am just trying to provide a different perspective.
SpencerE 1/11/2013 11:39:25 AM Report

This city is actually batty. The whole reason they wanted to protest is because they ARE essential, therefore getting their point across much more effectively. You got a note that you child can't go to school that day because of protest of a bill? That will make you look up the bill and try to understand what it's about. If any of you have a decent brain, which apparently only about 10% of you do, then you would know what the bill is about.
KHL 1/11/2013 11:57:38 AM Report

Razor- You seem to more worked up about the attendance letter than the issue at hand which is Bill 115. Those letters are not handed out to all parents but only those whose children have missed a certain percentage of school without medical notation. If teachers are essential, then attendance by students should be mandatory as well.
KHL 1/11/2013 11:57:38 AM Report

Razor- You seem to more worked up about the attendance letter than the issue at hand which is Bill 115. Those letters are not handed out to all parents but only those whose children have missed a certain percentage of school without medical notation. If teachers are essential, then attendance by students should be mandatory as well.
Slim Shady 1/11/2013 12:18:43 PM Report

You mean it took the Teachers Union from (Jan 3rd to 4:00AM this morning) to figure out that the strike was illegal? Are they too stupid to read and better yet comprehend?

The Union should have to pay every parent that was forced to take an unplanned day off work or for the unplanned daycare costs. Unlike the Teachers, the rest of us working people can't call our boss 30 minutes before work and change our schedules?! Daycare arrangements usually require more than 24 hours notice prior to cancellation.

Stupidity like this will not win support for the Teacher's Union from the rest of us!

IceBlueEyes7127 1/11/2013 12:38:17 PM Report

@Slim Shady & other's that misunderstood this whole thing.. It was not a STRIKE.. It was a PROTEST. Have you not read the headlines, or the rest of the comments on here? As I agree with the rest of the angry parents that had to find other arrangements today, like I did.. it's basically a PAID day off for teachers and an UNPAID day off for parents that had to make arrangements to stay home with their kids that don't have a daycare option or babysitter for the day! And I also agree with one of the other comments made on here about them riding the "cash pony" for a bit too long now. Do the rest of us get to protest to our employer when we don't get the raise we want? I don't think so.
razor25 1/11/2013 12:58:28 PM Report


No they're not because my children have only missed a day or two each (sick days). Now they've missed 2 more each because of strikes. They went to everyone as a notice of the law. It wasn't a "warning" to us specifically, it was informing everyone of the law.
ODE 1/11/2013 1:05:26 PM Report

I just wish that the government would recognize that teachers warrant more! Thank god for teachers, if it wasn't for them the students would be getting their knowledge from all of the half breeds complaining on here!
Grace Under Pressure 1/11/2013 1:09:11 PM Report

I haven't read any comment from a teacher saying anything about money.
I have however read about the working parents' loss of money.
While you're trying to shame your childrens' teachers, you're showing those qualities in yourselves.
Teachers aren't your babysitters. They aren't your childrens' after school coaches, craft instructors or gift givers for motivation. They're instructors, the rest has been up to them to voluntarily do.
As parents the only BOSS you've got to answer to are YOUR CHILDREN. It's up to you to be there for them, it's your sacrifice to make. It's YOUR job.
If you're jealous of the teachers' salary, go out and become a teacher yourself.
sbjef 1/11/2013 1:23:34 PM Report

Teachers' hefty salaries are driving up taxes, and they only work 9 or 10 months a year! It's time we put thing in perspective and pay them for what they do - babysit! We can get that for minimum wage. That's right. Let's give them $3.00 an hour and only the hours they worked; not any of that silly planning time, or any time they spend before or after school. That ...would be $19.50 a day (7:45 to......... 3:00 PM with 45 min. off for lunch and plan-- that equals 6 1/2 hours). Each parent should pay $19.50 a day for these teachers to baby-sit their children. Now how many students do they teach in a day...maybe 30? So that's $19.50 x 30 = $585.00 a day. However, remember they only work 180 days a year!!! I am not going to pay them for any vacations. LET'S SEE.... That's $585 X 180= $105,300 per year. (Hold on! My calculator needs new batteries).What about those special education teachers and the ones with Master's degrees? Well, we could pay them minimum wage ($7.75), and just to be fair, round it off to $8.00 an hour. That would be $8 X 6 1/2 hours X 30 children X 180 days = $280,800 per year. Wait a minute -- there's something wrong here! There sure is!

The average teacher's salary (nation wide) is $50,000. $50,000/180 days = $277.77/per day/30 students=$9.25/6.5 hours = $1.42 per hour per student--a very inexpensive baby-sitter and they even EDUCATE your kids!) WHAT A DEAL!!!!

Heaven forbid we take into account highly qualified teachers or NCLB...
Point Blank 1/11/2013 1:44:06 PM Report

Hey sbjef..your comments are ludicrous!
Maybe some of you should stop standing up for the teachers and consider standing up for our children. They are the ones being affected here. They have rights too - and someone has to fight for them. In reality, they should be the ones protesting! They should be picketing the teachers and demanding that they show up for work and provide the education that they were hired for and are being well paid to provide. We have to fight for them!
C'mon people - get your priorities straight!! It's our children's future that the teachers are messing with.
Aushlosh 1/11/2013 2:29:36 PM Report

This is a sad time in Ontario. The teachers' unions are the largest and strongest, and If the government can treat them so poorly and take away what has been earned, I'm scared to see who they'll target next.

Teachers are incredibly special people who spend more quality time with their students each day than most parents do with their children. They care deeply for all children and play a huge role in shaping the future of our world. Is it so bad that they are demonstrating to young people to stand up for their rights, and not be bullied by something more "powerful?"
Aushlosh 1/11/2013 2:33:21 PM Report

sbjef: I LOVE your post! Really puts things into a more accurate perspective! haha
Alystr 1/11/2013 3:51:05 PM Report

To all you people whining about how good teachers have it. Di you ever think that maybe you could have went to school for it? Maybe you were to stupid to be able to do it? Any moron who can bash teachers and that doesn't have a clue what they are fighting for, needs to shut up and go crawl in a hole or go back to school and become a teacher. Then you can see how easy they really have it.. They don't make no $94000 like some clown posted. They start late 30K or early 40K.. And they deserve it. If I could up all the teachers wages at my kids school I would..
liloo 1/11/2013 7:34:11 PM Report

To all who said that if the teachers don't like what's happening, get another job. I agree. My daughter went to school for 4 years and another semester for French so she would have a little extra education to get onto to the "Occasional list", no such luck. So she went out and found another job. If the teachers now think it is hard out there, then step aside and let the new, young, bright, energetic teachers take their place, I'm sure they will not complain about the perks that the teachers have or what the government is willing to give to the them and will do it for a lower rate of pay. Maybe our kids will learn better when they have a teacher who wants to be there.
BARNEY13 1/11/2013 10:21:35 PM Report

Interesting reading for those who want to know the truth about teacher’s wages or the “bill”

I don't normally express any opinion in this way but with all the strike talks all the influence from both sides of this fight. I don't believe either side as they are both fighting for what they may selfishly or otherwise need want or believe to be right.
Strikes or using the fancy name "protest" are affecting so many other people not just parents. They are affecting the people who drive the buses or the people who cross our kids across the busy city streets. These workers don’t get paid for these strike or protest days. Above all else my heart goes out to the kids. Kids of all ages are been affected by this kids in Jk or Sk who are so hurt because they were supposed to be the leader today or the older kids who wanted so bad to be the star in that Christmas show, or even to the high school student that studied so hard for that big test. I wish both side would start practicing what they tell my children: “through Character, we find common ground” well the character from both sides need to start to take lessons from the child and future adults they say they both value and care for.
Zarm27 1/12/2013 4:12:50 AM Report

Barney, kudos.
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