Ricatoni 1/7/2013 5:30:21 PM Report3 years old????????? Like what are you thinking to assault a three year old????
Shes totally defenceless against an adult!!!!!!
.....Its your daughter for gods sake!!!!!! You need help lady!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously!!!!you need help......
This is So Sad.......:(
JustMe1234567 1/7/2013 5:44:32 PM ReportKudos to the witnesses that called police. Everyone has to look out for the defenseless.
I'm just sayin' 1/7/2013 5:49:51 PM ReportI was two years old when my father first punched me in the head. C.A.S. did a quick report, and my father learned how to hide me when I was brused. SO much child abuse that goes unseen... Hope they have to serve time for this.
leeza 1/7/2013 5:55:30 PM ReportDuty to Report for everyone! Thank Goodness!
willoweep 1/7/2013 5:57:02 PM ReportI shudder to think what that kid goes through in the privacy of the home.
34 years old? although assaulting a Child is NEVER acceptable I find it shocking that a Women of her age would do such a thing.
Thank You to the People who came forward and reported her.
I wish there were more like you .
leeza 1/7/2013 6:37:05 PM ReportWhich is it WorkingMan, discipline or punishment? They are 2 different things and research has shown that discipline works much better than punishment.
**just me** 1/7/2013 6:43:28 PM Reportshaking a child can cause brain damache , I have seen children who have brain damache from their parents from shaking them .. Yes it is abuse and is not allowed , spanking a child is totally different than shaking .. but at 3 years old a child is learning and no child should be in a form of any hits , slaps or shaking at 3 years old .. it is not right .. if I would of seen that I would of went and shock the mother and see how she would like it not just stand there , praying that child has no damache done to her ..
Working Man 1/7/2013 6:47:36 PM Reportleeza,
Discipline is defined as(by dictionary.com): punishment inflicted by way of correction and training.
Or it could be defined as: training to act in accordance with rules.
Nothing wrong with discipline...
Starburst34 1/7/2013 6:51:10 PM ReportWorking Man - You have disgusted me with some of the things you have said. You seriously think that shaking a 3 year old has no consequences?? Here is a news article that should smack some sense into you....
"Police have arrested a mother and her boyfriend, charging the couple with the death of a 3-year-old Conyers girl.
Edna Figueroa, 3, was brought to the Rockdale Medical Center Emergency Room by her mother Yaneth DeLaCruz Alvarez and the mother’s boyfriend, Raul Solis, on Saturday.
Figueroa was unconscious, unresponsive and having difficulty breathing when she was brought into the ER.
Doctors say the toddler suffered from extensive brain hemorrhaging. She died the next day from her injuries.
Tuesday, police arrested Alvarez and Solis in connection to the little girl’s death.
Solis was charged with murder and cruelty to children.
Police said Solis admitted to shaking the 3-year-old while she was misbehaving.
The girl’s mother, Alvarez, has been charged with cruelty to children for failing to supervise her children, which led to Figueroa’s death."
I am so happy that the witnesses called this in! Too many innocent children die every day because some adults have no patience....it's sad.
moem 1/7/2013 6:55:51 PM ReportWorking man is a jackass!!!
So many people on here make comments on the petty crime stories about bringing back discipline in children, spanking smacking etc and I have always stood firm that children should never be hit it's assault and sadly our laws don't protect children... It's a slippery slope from simple spanking to hitting to shaking.... We as a society should protect children!!! We should not be acting as though the person who witnessed it is a hero for calling police as it is the LAW to do so, just like we wouldn't applaud someone for not drinking and driving or not killing someone!!
Folks now we see an example of a parent bringing back good old fashioned discipline..... Not a pretty sight is it??? I hope people go back and ask themselves if we as a society should allow any form of child abuse? Should children not be afforded the same protection as the rest of us under the law?????
Snowdon 1/7/2013 6:57:35 PM ReportSo WorkingMan, screw all the studies that show a correlation between mental illness and corporal punishment, because your anecdotal experience is better right?
Working Man 1/7/2013 6:58:13 PM ReportJustme,
shaking a child could possibly cause brain damage in children under seven, yes, depending on the severity of it. If it's a gentle shake it's fine. If it was a hard shake for 3 seconds, the kid will be fine. My dad held me above his head as a baby, and did baby talk, and I would laugh, I see parents do that all the time and all the kids do is laugh... Nothing wrong with that.
Microwaving their food, smoking near them, could cause brain damage for them as well.
Operating your cell phone near them could cause their bone density to atrophy as well. Cell phones in a holster on someones hip causes significant bone density loss in that same area of their hip. If I saw somebody talking on the phone in front of their kid, I would snap.
leeza 1/7/2013 6:58:21 PM ReportWorking Man I totally agree with you. There is nothing wrong with discipline, but discipline is supposed to improve behaviour, train a child on how to behave, while leaving their self esteem and dignity intact. When you are punishing a child, that's when you are spanking, slapping, shaking..etc. How do these actions "improve" or "train" a child to do the right thing. Being scared of your parent hitting you or being scared of your parents in general, I don't think is a healthy way to raise children. I would rather my child respect me and my rules and listen to his heart rather than be afraid of what I am going to do to him if he doesn't listen. That seems very unhealthy.
Sam C 1/7/2013 6:59:05 PM ReportRicatoni, willoweep... not to defend her, but I doubt she stopped to ask herself whether or not she should shake her toddler. These incidents are usually outbursts of rage.
Working Man... first, from the article: "...was witnessed by several people who contacted police."
Second, this wasn't a corrective "spanking," and I cannot think of any justification for shaking a child.
Working Man 1/7/2013 7:06:12 PM Reportstarburst,
I didn't say that shaking a kid has no consequenses. I know for sure it has consequences on babies and I didn't want to make generalizations, which is why I said I wasn't sure. But, I am so sorry about that one person that died from shaking. What about rocking chairs, is that bad too? Like I said, depending on the severity of the shake....
Moem,
Not all children react to the exact same form of discipline. Like I said before.
Showdon,
I haven't looked into the punishment that corporations have done to their people. I didn't know that corporations hired 3 yr olds..
leeza 1/7/2013 7:09:28 PM ReportCORPORAL PUNISHMENT-the infliction of physical injury on someone. the act of punishing
sweetc 1/7/2013 7:12:26 PM ReportUnles you have had a child who has sent you over the edge you cann;t say you would never shake a child. Not that i condone a shaking but I do understand how exasperated you can be.
With one of my children i could talk and talk and keep removing him from a situation only to have him continually do the same thing. the only thing that would deter him would be a slap on the bum...
.Did anyone walk up to the mother when the child was acting up and see if she needed help? Sometimes a few seconds away from teh situation yourself is all you need. When the baby cried continually I would sometimes make sure that he was safe in his crib and step outside to grab back mysanity. It can be a hard job being a parent.
leeza 1/7/2013 7:14:19 PM ReportYes I do understand sweetc, for sure parents become overwhelmed and exasperated. We are the adults though and children are looking to us as their role models and to guide them and teach them self control.Not saying that we haven't made mistakes ourselves for sure, but when you know better you do better. Just sayin...
Working Man 1/7/2013 7:15:46 PM Reportleeza,
I agree with you as well. Discipline is supposed to improve behaviour.
If your children are listening to you and following your boundaries, then i'm sure you are doing the right thing.
Spanking 'can' be viewed as negative, I understand that, but it's not always that case. Same theory that failure is the best thing for you as an adult--you learn from it. Sometimes it's not all that good to hug somebody and tell them that 'everything is going to be alright', especially to an adult. That could be lying to them and they will hate you for it. Tell them the truth.
Starburst34 1/7/2013 7:46:52 PM ReportWorking Man - What it comes down to is that you were not a witness to this event. You have no idea at all how forceful the shake was, so quit making assumptions. And - all this comparing it to rocking chairs and holding a baby in the air over a head - is just ridiculous.
moem 1/7/2013 7:49:16 PM ReportWell now we know why working mam turned out this way.... Some insight into his childhood!!!
Sweetc if you can't handle the frustrations that come with raising children, don't have them, I cam absolutely say how I would handle the situation, I would never hit or shake my child, sorry but it's just not effective!
As for letting your child cry while standing outside, that is a personal choice IF your child is dry, fed and not hurting in some way and just has to cry for awhile, then the cry it out method works for some people if they can handle it... I couldn't but thankfully my baby wasn't/ isn't a crier so I haven't really gone through that, but some babies do cry a lot and yes parents need to take a break.....
And as for offering her assistance, hopefully getting help by way of learning to deal w her frustrations, and learning how to be an effective parent will be part of her court mandated " punishment" and rehabilitation....
leeza 1/7/2013 7:49:47 PM ReportNoone is lying to the kids. Yes, boundaries, discipline and guidelines can be taught with kindness, firmness, and love. Children learn what they live. They experience natural consequences of their behaviour and that's what discipline is; then they actually learn something. When its punishment, its something we are doing to them to "teach them a lesson" so they don't do the behaviour again, like slapping, shaking, hitting...etc. They learn fear, resentment, revenge and that bigger is mightier and that I can impose my will on you because I am bigger than you. I want my children to be in a world where we can discuss things with each other whether they are 3 years old or 15 years old, that's the world I want for my kids. Yes, you are right all children learn differently, and some are more "stubborn" or "willful" than others. What wonderful attributes to have if we could learn to channel them in a healthy way.
leeza 1/7/2013 7:51:38 PM ReportI hope this parent will learn some better coping strategies and skills in the future
lowla 1/7/2013 7:56:56 PM ReportCAS will do nothing. They will make a few home visits, always calling first, then close the file. All is well
Zarm27 1/7/2013 7:57:03 PM ReportNot to comment on other peoples parenting styles, but shaking a child is just messed up. Clearly the woman has no sense of motherly instinct, and no patience. Rather than just reporting it, hopefully someone stepped up and said something to the woman.
sweetc 1/7/2013 8:05:46 PM Reportmoem: Oh I forgot some people are just purrfect parents..... Moem... if you did not experience the constant crying of a baby for no apparent reason... then you have absolutely no idea of how you would have handled it. I just love it when there are people with absolutely no experience say.. Oh i would never do that.. or that or that. and that is absolutely wrong.....
I never condoned the shaking of the child...As I was growing up my parents tauht me that. A spank on the bottom is ok.. a slap on the hand is ok but never never shake or give a child a slap on the back of the head. You could cause brain damage. And what disclipine works for one child will certainly not work for another.
1960 1/7/2013 8:10:28 PM ReportThank God she was caught in public, god only knows what goes on in the home, and for our CAS system in the Sault they would have left her in the home, because alot parents know how to play the game and CAS have workers that leave kids in home that shouldn't be there.
Working Man 1/7/2013 8:17:19 PM ReportLeeza,
I was joking about the corporal punishment comment. I dunno, I found it funny. You didn't and that's ok.
I have learned tonnes about self-control from physical spanking. It's not abuse if it's used in the context of discipline. Hard to explain here, I'd have to write a book about it.
Spanking can improve a child's behaviour. It's not about giving them a stern lecture, that's not the answer to everything. That is why social science is, in fact a science. If it weren't, then everybody would be yelling at each other to solve problems. That doesn't solve anything. That is why all the ugly and fat construction foremans think they're 'all that', when they're just the 'weak' guy that other people put up with(and badmouth) to keep their job. Trust me it's not that the foreman is physically tougher or stronger than anyone, yeah right! And verbal abuse causes resentment.
Sam C,
I guarantee you only one person called police, there wasn't a crowd of people calling at the same time.
moem,
I'm sorry you feel that way - that I didn't turn out the 'exact' way that 'you' wanted me to turn out. You don't even know me, first of all! I am really sorry for you that you impose your own preferences on other people.
I don't like every single person on this planet either, but I don't judge them either. Put things into perspective.
Leeza,
Yeah, violent shaking is a bit extreme and I wouldn't (and didn't) recommend that for anybody.
People in prestigious careers do not think that everybody is 'perfect' and 'great' and if you make a mistake, 'that's fine'. Life is not like that. It is a hard world. And yes, even if your child wants to be a Janitor, that would be hard on him too--actually even harder than choosing a better path. That is why discipline is so important!
People who don't get disciplined as a kid, end up as stoners, on welfare, and the same losers you see in the police beat on this stupid site. They become the losers of the world and live unsatisfactory lives.
sweetc 1/7/2013 8:21:46 PM ReportStarburst34>>>> were you a witness to the event and know how forceful the shake was or are you just making assumptions on what you have read in the news?
stiJJy 1/7/2013 8:29:12 PM ReportI don't want to pick a side here because nobody knows exactly what happened, but I would like to say that as a whole, society has swung from one extreme to the other in terms of how to discipline children. This isn't necessarily a good thing.
CDMLA 1/7/2013 9:18:39 PM Report makes me sick .... she deserves what she gets .
Starburst34 1/7/2013 9:28:36 PM Reportsweetc - I never made any assumptions, whereas Working Man is saying that if it was a little shake it is fine. NO TYPE OF SHAKING IS FINE ON A CHILD!! And as for you - you said that nobody should say that they would never shake a child because they don't know what they'd do if their child put them over the edge. Excuse me, but I could proudly say that before I even had my daughter I could SAY FOR SURE that I would never do anything like that to her. She is 2 now and trust me she has put me over the edge many times, but guess what, I AM THE ADULT, I am her mother who takes care of her and protects her. The times she has cried non-stop, I hug her and keep her close and let her know I'm there for her. Some of you people make me sick with the things you say or assume of others.
Dead End Kid 1/7/2013 9:43:35 PM ReportDon't forget to tune in next week for another round of "WHO'S THE BIGGEST IDIOT"
drypaint 1/7/2013 9:56:54 PM ReportMy daughter is 16yrs old and my wife and I have NEVER raised a hand or shaken her to this day. She is a straight A student and holds a part time job. Yes there were bumps in the road but love and communication are key. If you people think that violence will work for you, then so be it, I feel for your children.
Poshkitty 1/7/2013 10:05:32 PM ReportMy three year old tests me on a daily basis! They are just learning! Its up to the parent to teach right from wrong and be patient if the child does not get it the first time! Its up to the parent to be consistant but encouraging! I see no problem with a tap on the bottom! I see no problem holding your childs shoulders so that you can make eye contact when explaining what the child did wrong. However, shaking won't solve anything! Why do it? Have someone shake you and try to listen to what they are saying! Be kinda hard don't you think!
Right of Centre 1/7/2013 10:20:16 PM ReportMother, arms full, trying to hang on to toddler, or push grocery cart, and hang on to toddler. Toddler lets go, runs away from mother in parking lot. Cars moving nearby, fearful mother grabs child, shakes child in her fear of losing her child. Child needs to understand the seriousness of letting go, and disobeying order.
Having not witnessed the event, it's difficult to fathom people implying worse treatment at home. Perhaps the witnesses were of the never spank, never scold variety. Perhaps the caught only the shaking. Perhaps this child truly is abused. That's what investigations are for.
moem 1/7/2013 10:23:58 PM ReportWell now we know why working mam turned out this way.... Some insight into his childhood!!!
Sweetc if you can't handle the frustrations that come with raising children, don't have them, I cam absolutely say how I would handle the situation, I would never hit or shake my child, sorry but it's just not effective!
As for letting your child cry while standing outside, that is a personal choice IF your child is dry, fed and not hurting in some way and just has to cry for awhile, then the cry it out method works for some people if they can handle it... I couldn't but thankfully my baby wasn't/ isn't a crier so I haven't really gone through that, but some babies do cry a lot and yes parents need to take a break.....
And as for offering her assistance, hopefully getting help by way of learning to deal w her frustrations, and learning how to be an effective parent will be part of her court mandated " punishment" and rehabilitation....
kamen 1/7/2013 10:35:30 PM ReportHere's how I see discipline. You shouldn't have to spank a child. You should discipline them in the manner of their negative behaviour. If they are purposely breaking things or you catch them stealing you give them a light smack on the hand, the sound will scare them more then the feeling of a sting. It is called a healthy fear, a fear of the consequences of their actions more than a fear of the parent. If your kids is screaming, or swearing at you, you give them a tap on the mouth, not a liht smack, literally a tap on the mouth. I mean if your kid is sitting on some other kids head then give the a light smack on the bottom, you should discipline the part of them that is causing the negative behaviour. I have never been grounded, I used to have time outs and all that does is removes the child from the situation and allows them to breath, or scream and cry if they want to but it still removes them from the more negative situation that they had caused. If you feel the need to shake your child, then you need to get away from them for a few minutes, I could never imagine being so angry that I would need to shake a child. I don't care how disrespectful they are being, you do not shake a child. Hell walk up to a complete stranger and say hey, I am really stressed and was wondering if you had a moment to listen before I do something that is uncalled for and I know I will regret. I would generally stop especially if this person has a child at their side. There is absolutely no reason any child should be abused, none. Period.
sweetc 1/7/2013 11:55:09 PM Reportkamen... what you are saying is that you agree with spanking. a tap on the mouth a tap on the bottom a smack on the hand.
moem 1/8/2013 12:12:37 AM ReportWell sweetc, I didn't say I never experienced a baby cry endlessly I said mine did not.... I have actually cared for babies who did and I didn't lose it and shake or hit them, your logic is ridiculous... " I hate when people say this or that " well let's look at it this way..... I have never been in a situation where I had too much to drink and had no way home BUT I can say I would never drink and drive... I have never been in a situation where I was totally broke and needed money for food, yet I CAN say I would never steal.... I have never been in a situation where I felt like killing someone for no reason BUT I can say I would never do that... Do you get the point yet??? People have morals and values they draw lines in
terms of their behavior and they can say what they would or wouldn't do!!! I wouldn't hit my child or spank them I'm sure my child will test boundaries and " push me over the edge" but I won't hit my child.....I'm the adult, like I said before if you can't handle the stress of children or the juggling groceries while trying to deal with a tot then don't have them... As a parent your child and their needs come first period...
Working man I can tell from your posts what kind of person you are... And your comment about imposing my preference on people is ridiculous and hypocritical considering you ended your comment by saying children who aren't disciplined become losers and stoners, what do you mean by discipline you can do it without physical violence... And I wasn't hit as a child and I'm not nor have I ever been a stoner a loser or on welfare!!!!
moem 1/8/2013 12:17:51 AM ReportSweetc
Reread your contradictory posts....
So would you shake your child or not?? You say I can't say I wouldn't do it yet you don't condone it and said your parents taught you not to.... So under what circumstances would you do it???? What could your child do to deserve it?
moto 1/8/2013 1:59:35 AM ReportIt saddens me to know that there are people out there having children that clearly do not deserve that blessing. And there are women who would be great parents that try every way possible to get pregnant and deserve to be a parent. It does not seem fair...if this child abuser could not handle being a parent she should have given the child up for adoption to a deserving family. Selfish human being, hope she gets what she really deserves!!! child taken away and jail time and beaten in prison!!!
leeant 1/8/2013 7:29:00 AM ReportMakes me kinda sick that no one came to help me or my siblings when the bruises and marks were clearly visible!! But I am now 50 ... back then it was legal!! And it was not talked about!!
PipeBomb 1/8/2013 8:36:22 AM ReportShaking a child - not appropriate. Should not be allowed, should be considered assault.
A slap on the bum or wrist - PERFECTLY FINE. You people make me sick. No wonder the world is going down the drain. We cannot even discipline our children anymore and the cops get called.
Again, shaking or anything like punching, kicking or tossing a kid around - no that's assault and if you do that, you should have your child taken away. But a slap on the butt....give me a break. This world has gone SOFT!!!
bigshrinkingmama 1/8/2013 8:42:35 AM Reportappologize for spelling now!!!
Lets hope this THING (no longer a women), gets what is coming to her and they make an example of her.
I almost lost my oldest daughter due to a babysitter Shaking her when she was 4 months old. That THING only recieved 1 yr in jail and 2 yrs probation, for this.
My daughter had severe brain hemorrhage , retinal hemorrhage ,plus Carbon menoxide poisoning on top of it. I truely believe she knew what she did and was trying to finish her off.
In 3 days we almost lost her twice, the 1st in a matter of 20 min, the second in the matter of a few hours, as statistics show it can take immediate up to a few days to show any signs of this ABUSE.
There are so much of this shit going on now a days or at least now a name for it, it makes me sick to my stomach. Most of the children don't survive or are mentally damaged from the shaking. Thank God, for as bad as my daughters shaking was, there where a millions angels with her and the power of prayer as she has only had a speech impediment from this, and has surpassed the doctors odds given to her.
I used to go speak to maternity classes, early childhood classes and high school parenting classes on this and would take a contaner that i put pins in (shapre side in) and add a tomatoe, then shake the hell out of it to show the kids and adults as to what happends to a babys brain when shaken. sorry i'm ramboling, but very touchy subject for me. We all need to hope and pray this little angel heels well with no or very little issues due to the ignorance of this thing.
StrictlyConfidential 1/8/2013 9:49:29 AM ReportI am always astounded by the comments people make about others. We live in a country where free speech is a right as long as it is not hate speech. The comments or opinions of others are just that, comments or opinions, so why are there always those people who feel they have the right to judge what other people say and call them names. This sight is there for people to express their opinions, that's all, and we will not always agree with what others say. Children, mentally challenged and elderly people are the most vulnerable and that is why we have the laws we do to protect them.
SpongeBob 1/8/2013 12:43:05 PM ReportOnly in SSM will you find people who think its ok to shake a child or physically reprimand one at the age of 3. Raised all my kids without ever having to hit them once. And they are all respectful good kids.
legend16 1/8/2013 2:52:29 PM ReportAll of you ppl that keep going back and forth, are flat tires! Do you ppl not have jobs? Must be nice! Where's the welfare office in the Soo??
Starburst34 1/8/2013 3:00:05 PM Reportlegend16 - Very rude to make assumptions like that. Me and my husband both work and have a 2 year old daughter. I am sick of people like you. You took time to read comments and post yourself, so now we're to assume that you don't have a job??? Come on....grow up!
Working Man 1/9/2013 8:11:02 PM ReportLegend16,
Flat tires don't go back and forth, so I don't really understand the correlation you're trying to make there....
Moem,
Why do you repeat your comments twice?? What is the point in that?
Starburst,
I never said that a little shake is fine. I just didn't witness it so I don't know. And I doubt you do either.
Tonnes of women pick up their baby when their crying and wrap their arms around them and do this bouncing up and down 'thing that they do' while they pat them on the back, while telling them in a soft voice 'it's ok, everythings going to be alright..' blah, blah... There is nothing wrong with that. Is that 'shaking'? Yes, but it's shaking in a soft, gentle way.
Rocking chairs are fine too...
I don't think they can jump on trampolines until they are 7 though.....
Massage chairs, I am not sure of either. They do involve vibrations.
What we should be worried about more is microwaves. You zap your baby's food you should be put to death!! Ok i'm exaggerating, but that is totally detrimental to the baby's health, more so then some slight shaking...
Starburst34 1/9/2013 9:42:29 PM ReportWorking Man - You sure did say that a little shake is fine.....below I pasted what you said in one of your posts....and some of the other things you say are just ridiculous...
Working Man 1/7/2013 6:58:13 PM
Justme,
shaking a child could possibly cause brain damage in children under seven, yes, depending on the severity of it. If it's a gentle shake it's fine.
Working Man 1/9/2013 9:55:02 PM ReportStarburst,
Yes I did say that..
To elaborate and reiterate what I said, or was trying to say:
Shaking roughly in a 'what the hell is wrong with you type of way' is no way benificial and could be very harmful to the child.
Rocking a cradle though is fine. Rocking a baby in a rocking chair is fine as well. Also picking up a baby, holding it in your arms and doing a bobbing up and down 'thing' while you pat them on the back is ok. That is 'gentle' shaking. That's completely normal and 90% of mothers do that...
I don't think that what I said is ridiculous. And i'm sorry that you feel that way.
Starburst34 1/9/2013 10:11:02 PM ReportWorking Man - You have your opinions and I have mine. I don't agree with you when you say that rocking a baby in a rocking chair or in your arms, etc. is considered to be gentle shaking. I would consider those to be gentle rocking, gentle bouncing, or playful swinging...and not considered to be shaking of any type.
jojo12345 1/10/2013 2:46:39 AM Reporti am sure that anyone on here who is over 50 did receive some spanking and was discipline
this is how we did learn respect
we were not on the street selling drug or been sleeping with guy at 14
we were in the house helping our parent having respect for them
you don't see that to much today for the simple reason that you are not allowed to spank them anymore or discipline them or C.A.S will be on your door step trying to show you how to raise your own kids
but were is C.A.S when someone really need them
tell me???
I am not talking about beating a child to death...but a good slap on the bump never did kill anyone
and showing them how to have respect is good
jojo12345 1/10/2013 2:58:07 AM ReportStarburst34 sorry but you are not making sense
what about a jolly jumper
or those saucer jumper
i am over 50 and in all my life we ever did hear about shaking a baby and nothing of this was happening
just like those stupid vaccine none of the kids in those year had them and we were in better health than any of those young kids today
teacher at school were giving us the strap
we all did survive
ask your grandparent they will all tell you how discipline was in their time
none of us did argue with them because we knew what will happen
none of them came home drunk at night time or on drug
we all did sit at the table for lunch and talk to each other
everyone was helping in the house
look on the street today
most kids are lazy they refuse to go to school or work
they are sit in the front of the tv playing game
and no respect at all with their parent or anyone else
and you think spanking is bad
you need to stop reading in the book and learn from real life
Starburst34 1/10/2013 10:19:01 AM Reportjojo - I make perfect sense. Go ask a professional if jumping in a jolly jumper is considered shaking? A lot of you people need to learn what the word "shaking" means. My goodness....where do you people get your ideas....and I don't care that you are over 50. And if parents don't believe in spanking their child then it is their choice. And so many people here have gone way off topic on which the article is about. It is about a mother who was seen SHAKING her child....not about a mother who gave a little spanking on the butt or had her child jumping in a jolly jumper or rocking in a cradle. Wow - I don't even know why I bother with addressing a lot of you who just seem ignorant and uneducated.
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