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(Update) House ransacked in B&E - several guns taken

Monday, December 17, 2012   by: Staff



Monday morning update

Break and enter on North Street

The homeowner has confirmed that seven firearms were taken from the home, including four long guns and one .22-calibre handgun.

Original news release - December 16, 6:38 p.m.
A break and enter was reported in the 900 block of North St. when a family member attended to check the residence. 

The house is described as ransacked. 

Entry was gained through a bedroom window between Friday afternoon and 3:00 p.m. today. 

A gun locker has been entered and it is believed four long guns and one .22 calibre handgun have been stolen pending confirmation and return of the homeowners.

If you have any information regarding this crimes, or any other crime, call Crime Stoppers at 705-942-7867 or 1-800-222-8477 (TIPS), submit an e-tip from the Crime Stoppers’ website at or text keyword SSM with your tip to 274637. Text STOP to 274637 to cancel. Text HELP to 274637 for help.

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Flyers08 12/16/2012 8:59:28 PM Report

does it ever end????????
onlyblue 12/16/2012 9:23:10 PM Report

And that rite there people, that is how guns end up in the hands of the wrong people.. bam .. how's your control work now ?
Bad Dawg 12/16/2012 11:20:00 PM Report

they stole guns from a gun locker..... a lock will only keep an honest person out
I'm just sayin' 12/17/2012 6:20:36 AM Report

if these kids faced the prospect of being shot by a home owner, maybe there would't be all these b&e... we should have the right to bear arms like our neighbours to the south... okay comments, GO!!!
MikeQ 12/17/2012 7:35:18 AM Report

@ I'm just sayin

A person who decides to commit a B&E, is not a person who is good at weighting logic and rationale. That being said, the chance that the homeowner MIGHT be home, MIGHT be awake, and MIGHT have a gun, is not going through that person's head. That being said though, I do agree we should be able to bear arms to protect ourselves... as it's people who kill people, not the guns... but I'm still saying, I don't think it would affect much in the goings of house break-ins...Unfortunately.
libster 12/17/2012 7:36:28 AM Report

The story reads like the home owners were away... if so that house was being watched for some time before the B&E. I bet the owners know or have seen the robbers around the neighborhood before.
Slim Shady 12/17/2012 7:40:14 AM Report


So when they break in and steal your parent’s prescription medication, you know the stuff that makes them better or endure heavy pain… Your solution is what? Ban all medication?

We should institute stiffer punishment for even petty crimes. B&E should be an automatic 2 year stint in prison. Theft of a firearm should add-on another 5 years just like it is if you commit an armed robbery now. I tell what, if someone breaks into my house while I’m in it, they better pray they kill me first, they’ll be leaving in a body bag. Other societies do not tolerate petty crimes, we shouldn’t either. They are not minor and ignored because they are covered by insurance. These crimes are spring boards for bigger ones and often fund them.

Gun safes (the cheap <$500 CTC type) are only meant to keep honest people honest or keep a household member from hurting themselves. They are made of light gauge steel and can be pried open with a little effort. IMHO the best way to store your guns is either in a small concrete walled room with a heavy steel door or locked in a case hidden in unobvious places like under couches, on top of furnace ducts etc. A criminal will zero in on a safe like it is an aircraft landing beacon!
Flyers08 12/17/2012 9:31:48 AM Report

@ I'm just sayin'

agreed 100%...i can honestly say that if someone was in my house putting my wife and kids in danger, i don't think i would have any trouble removing someone's knees with my 12 guage. They put themselves in that position....good luck walking out! This crap needs to stop.
what about bob 12/17/2012 9:32:10 AM Report

My opinion, this is Sault Ste. Marie; why do people keep guns in their homes in the first place? I'm not a hunter, but I'm assuming these guns kept in homes are for hunting?? Anyone who has guns in their homes is an open invitation to any family member getting ahold of them, or any B&E suspect getting to them. Why not just get a gun when you're on your way to your hunting escapade? Isn't that more logical??? Come on. Less guns accessible, the less innocent people getting shot.
JROC 12/17/2012 9:42:37 AM Report

So hunters should buy a gun every year they want to go out hunting?
opinionated 12/17/2012 9:46:06 AM Report

You're suggesting buying a new gun every time you go hunting? More logical? Are you kidding me?

Guns stored *properly* with trigger locks are minimal danger to your family.

what about bob 12/17/2012 9:46:38 AM Report

Like I stated! I'm not a hunter, so I don't know the hunting rules ! But, if renting a gun is an option, then why not rent a hunting gun?
Tree Reaper 12/17/2012 9:51:21 AM Report

"why do people keep guns in their homes in the first place?"

Maybe for the same reason we allow the police to carry guns, protection.
If a teacher was trained and had access to a firearm in Connecticut the outcome would have been different.
what about bob 12/17/2012 9:59:45 AM Report

Tree Reaper, what do YOU think these guns that were stolen from the home will be used for? Just asking.
RLE 12/17/2012 10:09:32 AM Report

Gun laws will not stop all gun crimes anymore than laws against murder stop all murders. To reduce get rid of gun laws makes no more sense than getting rid of laws against murder
W. Yote 12/17/2012 10:12:33 AM Report

Yeah I don't think renting is an option for several reasons...

Firstly and foremost I don't use a firearm unless I know it has been cared for properly, never mis-used, and is sighted in for ME!

Every gun is a bit different and a responsible hunter will know and be 100% comfortable with their firearm, the safety mechanisms, the optics and how it shoots. There are far too many combinations of caliber, action, optics to offer something that fits every hunter.

Many hunters do not hunt "once a year", I hunt all year. And when I'm not hunting I may be practicing so that when I am hunting I hit what I'm shooting at.

Renting would be unsafe, impractical, too expensive.

When drunk driving was a huge problem we didn't ban cars or alcohol. We cracked down on the abusers. Guess what! It worked!!
pruden 12/17/2012 10:14:22 AM Report

After living in Central Africa for many years, we dealt with this type of stuff very harshly ourselves.

This type of person has no social conscience and deserves to be dealt with similarly. The removal of a finger/hand would definitely deter this type of action. Booby trapping your home when leaving it for a number of days also works. Fish hooks hanging down the inside of windows definitely works....put your hand through the window and pull it back, oops! you are snagged.

Agreed, you don't have to kill anyone found in your house but you can certainly cripple them....knee caps are good.

We are being made to think like the criminals just to defend ourselves and our families. Forced entry when you are home is NOT to be tolerated whatsoever and should be dealt with as harshly as possible. Enough said!!!
W. Yote 12/17/2012 10:18:39 AM Report

Most of these guns will be sold locally and used for hunting. Even with the registry this was the most common scenario. They will be sold to people that refuse to get their PAL or want to buy a gun cheap. The money will likely be used to buy drugs.
231Turbo6 12/17/2012 10:46:30 AM Report

Glad to see a few people leaving responses on this story still have common sense
iamtc 12/17/2012 11:06:37 AM Report

To the fine people of sault ste marie not to worry the police are on the case - I feel safe, but statistics say crime is down in this city thats what the chief says maybee he was comparing back to 1912 to celabrate 100 years to be honest they cant catch an m&m in their mouth if you all want prevention to happen get security systems all business homes and cars should have this it is not expensive people are to cheap and this is the result now we better watch out there are more guns on the street be safe and have happy holidays and lock your doors
rcssm69 12/17/2012 11:35:05 AM Report

Just a question...aren't handguns illegal in Canada?
iamtc 12/17/2012 11:43:36 AM Report

you can get a permit to have them for fire range thats about it
Menard6969 12/17/2012 1:10:37 PM Report

Handguns are not illegal to own in Canada. Some are prohibited, all are restricted. You can not legally own a prohibited handgun except under very narrow and special circumstances. For the rest of them (the restricted handguns) you must take a separate "restricted" firearms course. This will add the restricted designation to the back of your possession acquisition license (PAL) allowing you to legally purchase and own handguns and handgun ammunition in Canada. You can not even move your handgun from your residence without notifying the OPP and taking a predetermined and known route. Two main reasons for owning handguns are for collection purposes or for target shooting. Gun laws are very strict in Canada, all of the anti-gun fanatics should really take the time to read up on the laws instead of spouting their crap propaganda. It is not us legal gun owners harming anyone, gun laws only apply to the law abiding....
Slim Shady 12/17/2012 1:12:26 PM Report

If you pass a rigourous background check (no criminal record etc.) and have a legitimate purpose (You are a Collector or belong to a certified shooting range) you can get a handgun. In order to shoot a handgun you must do so at a certified range and have an ATT (Authorization To Transport) permit issued from the Canadian Firearms Centre. Before you are allowed to shoot a handgun at a range you will need to pass a safe handgun handling course given by the Range Club.

There are different classifications of an FAC for handguns (barrel length, restrictive vs. prohibited).
Tree Reaper 12/17/2012 2:27:26 PM Report

"Tree Reaper, what do YOU think these guns that were stolen from the home will be used for?"

These are criminals, they don't follow the same rules you and I do and they'll use these guns any way they want.
If they want a gun they'll get it,if you take away the legal guns then only criminals will have guns and everyone else becomes defenseless.
What a wonderful world for criminals that would make.
Stiffer penalties and a loss of all rights for anyone stealing a gun.
friendlyone24 12/17/2012 2:28:09 PM Report

Gun storage is available for a small cost, should you not want the gun in your home until hunting season.
Ask Perry's Gun shop for details or a reference.
Dead End Kid 12/17/2012 2:34:10 PM Report

You could probably reduce the amount of home break ins overnight if our laws were changed to make this crime more punishable for all ages from say the age of 14 years old and up. The drug dealers are using kids to do the break ins so that when they are caught their lawyers get them probation and some community service. Once they are back on the streets they repeat the same thing over again.

Ive said in the past, It's one thing to break into a place of business but you cross the line when you break into someone's home. A home is where it is you're god given right to feel safe, the last place to feel safe in this ever crazy world that we live in.

Bad Dawg 12/17/2012 2:57:12 PM Report

So when we don't have guns in our homes they will only B&E the storage place... If someone enters my home I am young enough to kick their ass and old enough to pay any legal bills.
onlyblue 12/17/2012 8:46:28 PM Report

Slim shady.... First off it hasn't been called an FAC in years its now called a PAL.. and the difference is restricted and prohibited .. and you don't need a range permit to buy handguns.. if you have a valid PAL and you have been "grandfathered" into the prohibited category as long as you hold a collector status you can still purchase handguns.... And there is different classifications of prohibited .. just some fun facts for yah..
Lynds 12/17/2012 10:58:10 PM Report

what about bob,
a handgun isn't used for hunting...
onlyblue 12/18/2012 7:22:18 AM Report

No in Canada you cannot use a handgun to hunt.. some states you can use one....handguns are used for hobby shooting and or collecting, people have hobbys some people enjoy this myself being one of those people.... Gun controll does not nor did it ever work, let's learn from Australia and the UK and all the other country's that have failed gun control laws..
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