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Sault police annual crime stats report released

Monday, November 26, 2012   by: Darren Taylor

After many local shoppers snapped up bargains as Sault, Ontario retailers offered lower prices on goods to compete with the U.S. Black Friday shopping blitz, the next flurry of shopping begins as Christmas approaches.

With that, however, comes a call for vigilance.
The Sault Ste. Marie Police Service released its 2011 Annual Report to City Council at its last meeting.
The report shows a decrease in crime overall compared to 2010 statistics.
Regardless, Police Chief Bob Davies and his team have noted a recent rash in smash and grabs from motor vehicles parked in shopping mall parking lots.
Davies said at a recent Police Service Board meeting items stolen from vehicles typically include laptops, GPS devices and other electronic items - things that shoppers love to buy for Christmas gifts.
Davies told, “We’re doing surveillance, we have plain cars out there trying to catch the thieves in the act.”
However, because police cannot be everywhere at once, Davies urged the public to take extra care when leaving their vehicles parked and make sure their vehicles are locked, both in shopping mall parking lots and in the driveway.
“We are asking citizens to be a little more vigilant and remove their valuable articles from plain view so that criminals aren’t as tempted to break into their vehicles.”
The 2011 Annual Report shows there were 553 break and enters to homes, businesses and “other” down from 569 in 2010 (a 2.8 percent decrease) and down from 755 in 2007.
There were 1,685 thefts in 2011, down from 2,116 in 2010 (a 20.4 percent decrease) with the same number - 1,685 - reported five years ago, in 2007.
One hundred and seven vehicle thefts were reported in 2011, down from 124 in 2010 (down by 13.7 percent) and down from 238 five years ago.
The 2011 total of crimes involving youth were down, at 574 (a 17.4 percent drop from 2010) and down from 1,275 youth crimes in 2007.
Figures show domestic incidents stood at 1,270 for 2011, up from 1,191 in 2010, with 234 males and 52 females charged last year.
Violent crime was down slightly in 2011, at 788, compared with 810 in 2010 and 969 in 2007.
What leaps out in those figures however, are four homicides in 2011.
Among those homicides is the murder of 29-year-old Wesley Hallam, whose dismembered remains were discovered in January 2011.
Three men are charged with first-degree murder in that homicide, and preliminary hearing for those accused will resume in the new year.
You can view the complete 2011 annual police report by clicking here. (pdf document)
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JustMe1234567 11/26/2012 3:26:01 PM Report

So we feel like crime is higher right now and were mad that the chief said crime is lower. Well this explains why, their annual reports are a year behind. This new report covers 2011, next years report should reflect the increase in crime for THIS year, 2012.
Ahhh now I get it.
OMGWTF 11/26/2012 4:03:51 PM Report

Takes 'em a year to write the report? Back to school for these slackers. Maybe we should ask Council to approve 2011 budget for them in 2013?
iamtc 11/26/2012 5:59:08 PM Report

What about all the crime that's not reported. These crime stats are phony We need an honest police force.
JustMe1234567 11/26/2012 6:03:23 PM Report

Just went through the whole report, sad that suicides are up.
I also think things are somewhat off, what about unreported crimes, or crimes that didn't get submitted into record as has happened to a couple friends. They went to get a copy of their break and enter report and it wasn't there. They didn't have it. Not sure how common that is?
the coach 11/26/2012 8:50:56 PM Report

crack heads
Wobbler 11/26/2012 9:01:59 PM Report


Pretty common I would say. I have never received the police report from my stolen and totaled truck. I have also not received my ownership and insurance documents.
B Boy 11/26/2012 9:35:17 PM Report

My car was broken into 4 times on separate occasions (there was nothing left in the open). I called the police to report it a total of 7 times since there wasn't always someone available to take the call.

When I called at a a later date for an update I found that only 1 report was made, the rest were left as occurrences and not actual reports. So for me only 25% were actually reported.

I've also stopped calling the police for my shed being broken into, my garden lights being stolen, my house being paintballed and other vandalism.

I'm doing my part to help keep the SSM crime stats down!
moem 11/26/2012 9:56:29 PM Report

How do you expect the police to measure something that is not reported? An occurrence still has a report hence the occurrence number attached to it... But seriously if it's not reported then technically it can't be measured, if you stop reporting bc you feel it won't be solved then you become part of the problem....
B Boy 11/26/2012 10:34:35 PM Report

Moem I think you're missing the report.

It took a total of 7 calls to report 4 crimes. I almost had to force the police to take my call. Of those 4 crimes I reported they only completed 1 actual report. Just because you report a crime to the police doesn't mean it makes it to the actual report stage. An occurrence is not the same as a report. I've found out from my insurance company that they won't accept an occurrence # because it's not an official report.

Of course it can't be measure if I don't report it. I stopped reporting it because when I went to the HQ or called the police they made me feel like a complete ass and belittled me. If I'm in my basement and my window is smashed of course I'm not going to get a description, It should still make it into an official report.

Bottom line is an occurrence # is not the same as a report. Occurrences aren't reported statistics, only official crime reports are. If you want a true indication of crime, then every crime would need to have an official report made (not an occurrence) and it would need to be reported to stats Canada, etc.
B Boy 11/26/2012 10:34:56 PM Report

Sorry, I meant you're missing the point.
JustMe1234567 11/27/2012 12:24:13 AM Report

Sounds like a crap-load of paper work for police tho eh?

I witnessed a parking lot crash once, there were three cars involved, minor, but the cop was filling out wads of paper work for a good half hour and then handed each driver their bundle o paper work to take away, seemed excessive for a fender bender in a parking lot.

I've never been to cop school but I would assume reporting crime and filing reports in a timely fashion is a huge part of the gig. We are owed that much as paying taxpayers.

Having said all that, I now think the annual crime report is kind of...bunk.

There is no allowance for the unreported or misplaced reported or the combined occurrence reported. ha.

The possible skew on the results is not reliable. Therefore, bunk.

My opinion only.
moem 11/27/2012 3:50:01 AM Report

I'd check your facts again, occurrences are given numbers and they are in fact included in the numbers, a quick google search yields that answer, they track everything, tracking all these numbers is commonplace and happens in most places that receive any sort of tax payer funding... Not just police, they know exactly how many phone calls and requests for assistance they had regardless of whether charges were filed or reports made....
JitterinOnRitalin 11/27/2012 4:35:34 AM Report

Vigilante justice... if you catch them in the act all you gotta do politely tell them that what they're doing is bad and call the police or you creep up behind them and bash their faces in with a rubber mallet. Make sure nobody see you of course, then drop them off behind a local bar.
JitterinOnRitalin 11/27/2012 4:47:59 AM Report

But I'm pretty sure that's highly illegal. So don't do it lol
B Boy 11/27/2012 7:15:39 AM Report

Moem I've checked my facts. The SSM police may use occurrence #'s for their internal statistics however occurrences DO NOT become reports and DO NOT move forward to stats Canada, etc. I'm not even sure if the local police services board reporting has the occurrences included in the trending. These facts have come straight from the SSM sergeant I spoke with and it was the same methodology used in the police service I was a sworn member of.

Have you checked YOUR facts?
B Boy 11/27/2012 7:22:22 AM Report

Maybe the work 'report' is causing confusion. When you call the police an occurrence form is completed and if further investigation is required then a report is completed.
There are exceptions such as car accidents - however I have heard of people in car accidents only having an occurrence completed which should be rare depending on the amount of damage done. An MTO MVC report is also typically required.

Keep in mind that different police services use different policing methodology. Where I came from Constable Generalists are used who do all their own investigations with the exception of indictable offences which are handed over to Constable Detectives (or higher).
hunti 11/27/2012 9:34:32 AM Report

Bunch of bull crap crime is down,police don't report 1/2 the crime that goes on in this town.There r so many crimes that I know about that was reported to the police and they do nothing.Like one person said earlier,they can't be bothered calling the police cause the police make them feel like the criminal,so true.My girlfriend's truck was badly damaged by criminals,the police did not take pictures or fingerprints,but told my friend she wasted her time going to the police station,go to your insurance company.Time for the citizen's of SSM to take the law into your own hand's,oh ya I forgot we will do more time in jail than the actual criminal.What a joke.
ackw 11/27/2012 10:40:13 AM Report

When the police let thier relatives and friends off of everything upto and including homicide does this not skew the stats?
ackw 11/27/2012 10:42:14 AM Report

OR does road kill count.
JustMe1234567 11/27/2012 10:45:42 AM Report

If you look at the document link at the end of the story I notice a photo and award for an officer with a verrrry familiar last name.

westofthesoo 11/27/2012 11:59:16 AM Report

I think the soo police do a fine job!!!! sure there times people turn thier heads! I haven't met a perfect human being yet.
How you think about a problem is more important than the problem itself! So always think positively!! I can think of many other communities where coruption is a norm.
littlejoe 11/29/2012 12:16:56 AM Report

Why not compare crime stats to the fifties and sixties or maybe even the seventies. You would find that in the fifties crime was not so bad. Today the Police Department does not have the manpower to investigate thefts and break and enters. Our punishment does not fit the crime. The cost to keep an inmate incarcerated is beyond belief. The goverment should cut back on the quality and increase on time. Within a few years crime will be back to the level it was in the fifties. THINK ABOUT IT'
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