Homeowners scare off intruders
Sunday, October 28, 2012 by: SooToday.com Staff
CITY POLICE
NEWS RELEASE
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Break and Enter reported on McMeeken St.
Jewelry and camera equipment was taken.
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Two attempt Break and Enter were reported to Cumbland Ave. and Bishops Crt.
In both cases the intruders were scared off by the home owners.
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friendlyone24 10/28/2012 6:40:40 AM ReportI'll do more than scare them off....I'm actually waiting to INJURE them.
Chris
Nimrod 10/28/2012 7:43:30 AM ReportSadly you will do more time than them for assault! What a world!
Moonshiner 10/28/2012 8:26:26 AM ReportThese hoods are getting so brazen they will break in while you are at home?If you have elderly people living alone in these areas they are at serious risk.Lend them your spare shotgun!
a_mom 10/28/2012 8:47:17 AM Reportthey wouldn't do time...you are allowed to protect yourself and your property. if an intruder is in your home and you beat them with a bat or golf club or some such you won't get charged for it.
moosehunter2 10/28/2012 8:55:42 AM Reportmom hope you are not a lawyer because you are wrong you will not only be charged you will get one hell of a law suit. good luck.
Sera 10/28/2012 9:06:08 AM ReportYou are absolutely right moosehunter....
some may want to brush up on the law a little before hoping for someone to invade their space so they can open up a can of whoop ass on the intruders!
A.E.D. 10/28/2012 9:42:13 AM ReportFour key words,FEARED FOR MY LIFE,gets you a hall pass to open up some whoop ass.
mudrunner 10/28/2012 10:11:20 AM ReportYou have to inform them to leave your property 3 times before you can use what ever force Necessary to remove them or make a Citizen arrest.
(Key word what ever force necessary)
groundspeed 10/28/2012 10:19:39 AM ReportHere's another keyword "excessive force." You may use force to defend yourself but be careful not to cross the line in a panic situation to where it becomes excessive. Then you're in trouble.
mudrunner 10/28/2012 10:35:06 AM Report(Key word what ever force necessary)
---> Necessary <----
a_mom 10/28/2012 10:39:47 AM Reportthink you all should look into that cuz ya can. use to be that you could kill them but i do believe they have changed that law. you have every right to protect you and yours
muddmutt69 10/28/2012 10:47:12 AM Reportlots of good information cuse I did not know you have to say leave three times then you can defend your self. Mind you if your house is getting robbed I'm not sure meny would remember to say that.
mudrunner 10/28/2012 10:52:45 AM ReportThat is how it works but hows to say you did not worn them 3 times.
mudrunner 10/28/2012 10:54:24 AM ReportSorry Who's
sinikka 10/28/2012 11:24:14 AM ReportI can tell you right now that i will not hesitate to hit one of these intruders with an old 3 wood i keep by the door. I have to assume that whoever has the gaul to enter my home while we are present is an immediate physical threat to my family. I will take my chances with a jury later and i can tell you that if i am in that jury i would think that any force used is not excessive. It is time that the law abiding citizens of sault ste.marie fought back .
BlackHelix 10/28/2012 11:32:10 AM ReportWhat are you guys talking about? If you don't know the laws, just learn them. All Canadian (and provincial) laws are freely available online. Why would you trust some random anonymous comment on a local website?
Secondly, the Canadian criminal system is not as black and white and you think. Most of our laws are not clearly defined and open to interpretation by the Supreme Court of Canada - the cases in which are also available online. If you want to really know what is within your legal rights, go find out. Otherwise your just posting and re-posting ignorance.
Zarm27 10/28/2012 11:50:59 AM ReportYeah in the end it'd be up to the court/jurors to decide, since any attorney would argue that by holding a weapon prior to encountering the criminal would be intent to harm, it could be said defense, but by having it by your bed it'd be seen as you having a violent/paranoid personality. It'd be better to encounter them, just grab onto them and the second they struggle grab the nearest blunt object. Even if a person wakes up to find an intruder, and the home owner has children, he would not be found guilty by anyone for protecting himself/family. Although, it would be pretty ironic if the intruder became paralyzed due to the beating he receives, then later sues and is finally considered unable to work so is supported by the government legitimately so he can continue to live his life minus the crime, unless he has a ramp.
My opinion is all crimes that are violent, should just have the criminal executed. It'd save time and money.
BlackHelix 10/28/2012 12:03:27 PM ReportOMG...did you not read my post? It's easy to see. It's RIGHT above yours.
sooclassified 10/28/2012 12:27:55 PM Report@ a mom: i am with that other person if someone broke into my home i would honesty beat the shit out of them... considering every thief in this city know the police system and court system in this city is a joke they would be released the next day. if i were to beat them i'll tell you they will never try it again cause i would be going for there knee caps.
mudrunner 10/28/2012 12:49:25 PM ReportAccording to Canadian law, you may use force to stop and remove the intruder, but "no more force than is necessary".
To address your specific concern, the law states that:
f you are unlawfully assaulted and you cause death or grievous bodily harm in repelling the assault then you are justified if:
(a) you caused it under reasonable apprehension of death or grievous bodily harm from the violence with which the assault was originally made or with which the assailant pursues his purposes and;
(b) you believe, on reasonable grounds, that you cannot otherwise preserve yourself from death or grievous bodily harm.
deputy dan 10/28/2012 12:54:13 PM Reportgot to say wow.... violence begets violence what if the intruders turn your golf club on you .. material items can be replaced... life and limb not so easy to put back..
TankGirl 10/28/2012 1:11:31 PM ReportEveryone should invest in alarm systems. Or get a dog. Or both. There are many waiting for their forever homes at the Humane Society every day. I feel bad for anyone that tries to break into my home because they won't get out without police assistance.
KMF61MCF 10/28/2012 1:14:24 PM ReportThese bottom feeding little scum bags who do this break into your home and use Bear Pepper Spray on there Victims. So maybe a dose of Bear Pepper Spray in there face would be equal force. Then slap the shit out of them a bit lol but of coarse deny it rotflmao like they will deny u told them to leave 3x lmao
BlackHelix 10/28/2012 1:28:51 PM ReportWhere are you getting the "you have to tell the intruder 3 times to leave"? That doesn't exist - anywhere.
sinikka 10/28/2012 1:42:23 PM Reportyes i will tell them to leave 3 times
after mr. taylor(made) asks them to leave 3 times first.
KMF61MCF 10/28/2012 1:47:03 PM ReportMudrunner said a person has to tell them to leave 3 times thats where i got that from.
Stugatzu 10/28/2012 2:31:02 PM ReportIf an intruder is attempting to leave your premisis and you inflict harm -- you're legally 100% in the wrong. The trick is to inflict as much damage to the person and "NOT" allow them to set one foot outside your door before or after doing so. If you must... drag the bludgeoned body back into your home...
I dunno... even in my young age my eye sight plays tricks on me... I thought I saw a pistol in his hand... that's why I shot him...
Sad that we live in a day and age where the criminals have the law protecting them while they violate YOUR sactuary.
BlackHelix 10/28/2012 3:15:27 PM ReportWow.
the coach 10/28/2012 3:58:46 PM ReportI have a 38 ounce TPS and a can of bear spray for these idiots. And when his knee caps are shattered he will not rob anyones house again.
Karl 10/28/2012 4:22:02 PM ReportIf no one see's you burying him, should have no problem.
Leftheel 10/28/2012 4:46:26 PM ReportI agree with everyone willing to defend themselves, if you do get/have a dog make sure you don't only post a "beware of dog" sign, it can be seen as an admission that you knew your dog would attack. Get a "no trespass" sign and cover "beware of" so it only reads "no trespass dog" should make life a little easier when your dog takes a chunk out of whoever makes the mistake of entering your home!
Zarm27 10/28/2012 4:53:15 PM ReportWith some of the comments, I keep thinking of that line from Pulp Fiction, where the one guy is like "the spider has caught himself a couple flies", lol.
Working Man 10/28/2012 5:19:24 PM ReportKarl,
You're right on.
If nobody see's you bury them, you should be just fine!
steelworker 10/28/2012 6:29:43 PM ReportBuy a can of hornet blaster and hose the little bastards down. While they are laying on the floor crying for mommy put the boots to them and leave them in a pool of their own rotten blood. Arrrrrrrrrrrgh mateys; never break into a pirates house.
Bad Dawg 10/28/2012 11:42:12 PM Reportfor those law comments about doing time for assault... I have held crying lil punks for the cops and they asked if I wanted to steal his stuff.... I did tell the lil shit I catch him again I will ask 911 for an ambulance for him not the cops..... they laughed and told the kid he better find a new gig cause your toast in this area
BlackHelix 10/28/2012 11:48:38 PM ReportIt must be so rewarding to know you can hold down and beat the shit out of 15 year old kids and then post about it online. You go get 'em Bad Dawg.
Ricatoni 10/29/2012 1:29:48 AM Reportsteelworker:LOL~~~~~~~ thats hilarious!!!!!!probably work though LMAO!!!!!!!
friendlyone24 10/29/2012 7:38:19 AM ReportBad Dog is not alone.
Helix-make sure it is not your kid.
Do the rest of you know where ALL your kids are, everynight?...if not...WHY NOT?
Chris
cityhallguy 10/29/2012 8:23:48 AM ReportNo kidding friendlyone24...we had our van broken into and the only thing that was taken was some candy we left in there!?! All the money, GPS, etc...were left untouched!!!
Gives me an idea what age bracket we were dealing with! Parents...be responsible for your kids!!!
Moonshiner 10/29/2012 10:07:34 AM ReportStanley Kubric made an interesting film about this ,A Clockwork Orange,many many years ago!
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