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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 by: SooToday.com Staff
CITY POLICE
NEWS RELEASE
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Police need public assistance
A snapshot covering off the last four days here in our community has in excess of 15 incidents of theft from vehicles being reported to the Sault Ste. Marie Police Service.
Patrol Services Inspector Art Pluss states that it cannot be emphasized enough the partnership that is so critical between the community and the police to address not only this, but other crimes as well.
The items stolen from these latest incidents included three purses, four wallets, five cell phones, one laptop, credit cards, passport, four GPS units, sports equipment, groceries, gifts, along with significant amounts of loose change.
The community can be assured that police resources will continue at every opportunity, with a focus on detecting, apprehending, and prosecuting the offenders.
However and again, Pluss reiterates it is absolutely critical to any appreciable measure of success that the cooperation of vehicle owners to engage in “target hardening” best practices by removing the opportunity (the purses, wallets, cash, electronics and other valuables) from vehicles will be required.
The Sault Ste. Marie Police Service encourages anyone with information regarding these crimes, or any other crime, call Crime Stoppers at 705-942-7867 or 1-800-222-8477 (TIPS), submit an e-tip from the Crime Stoppers’ website or text keyword SSM with your tip to 274637.
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anapeg 10/24/2012 12:11:19 PM Report"The items stolen from these latest incidents included three purses, four wallets, five cell phones, one laptop, credit cards, passport, four GPS units, sports equipment, groceries, gifts, along with significant amounts of loose change."
People think the thieves are the stupid one's? REALLY?
banshee_bob 10/24/2012 12:17:26 PM ReportSoo Michigan doesnt have the same problem. Reason: they are allowed to shoot thieves in the back. Also why there are not many repeat offenders in the States.
KEENER 10/24/2012 12:26:19 PM ReportEveryone who can afford to should put up an infrared camera and we can all post the photo's of the people trying to break into our vehicles, houses, shed's, garages, etc. It is not the owners fault for forgeting their phone, wallet, or change in the vehicle.
Prrrrrrr 10/24/2012 12:32:05 PM Reportbanshee_bob
Soo Mich has a curfew! City council should think about that for our city.
There is no good reason for kids to be hanging out on the street after dark, if they have to go from a to b have a letter from your parent or a ride...simple!
sweetc 10/24/2012 12:35:12 PM Reportits pretty hard to impose a curfew when you legally cant force a 14 year old to even live at home
cashcab 10/24/2012 1:03:46 PM ReportI go to work at 3am and I can tell you I see kids as young as 11 or 12 on the streets at that time. Thats just wrong, any way you look at it. Maybe I'm just getting old but any kid (and by kid I mean under 18) on the street at night should be at least stopped and questioned by police. Kids would think twice about doing a b&e Knowing that the police are going to be chatting with them at some point if there out at that time of the night. Spend our money more wisely and have a cruiser doing just that. It might not be kids doing these car thefts that are giong on right now but thieves start thieving when there young. Nip it in the bud, it's the best way....Nip it in the bud, I am getting old!!!
SaultJammer 10/24/2012 1:29:21 PM ReportThe real issue is not with the kids out at all times of the night but with the parents who sallow their kids to roam the streets in these wee hours. How about start seriously penalizing the parents of kids caught out there in the middle of the night. Then we would see less of this issue and maybe just maybe some more actual responsible parents. Todays parents are no where near as responsible as parents of my generation. If you were caught out in the middle of the night with no good reason then brought home our parents would literally beat us as a reminder or warning. Unfortunately todays parents aren't even allowed to place a single hand on their own child without some left-winger shouting child abuse - please eh! A little corporal punishment never hurt us and it would surely not hurt todays kids that really need it the most. - AND NO I'M NOT SAYING beat the hell out of your kids but proper and appropriate discipline, not physical abuse.
SaultJammer 10/24/2012 1:40:09 PM ReportOh by the way, i have also raised 2 boys from birth and neither of them were allowed out after appropriate hours unless i was escorting them to a friends house for sleep overs or other functions such as all nighters at the theater. Both of my boys are now in their 20's and neither of them have ever been involved in any petty crimes or other mischievous doings. My boys would actually inform me and my wife of wrong doings by their friends and agree that it was wrong and how they would stop associating with those friends until they (the friends) would smarten up. Parent-child communication is probably the single, most important thing a family needs to have. Without it you loose connection with your kids and their whereabouts - as well as the trust between each other...
Tom_Bom 10/24/2012 2:30:22 PM ReportWe can lay blame on the parents, but a lot of these kids come from broken homes... so as much as the parents should take responsibility for them, they don't.
As far as curfew goes, I'm open to it if it happens on a trial basis at first.
geterdun 10/24/2012 2:49:02 PM ReportIts to late for any of this. We as parents and a society have let them become this way. Its to late for any sort of action. What will happen is someone will catch one of these perpetrators and beat the living crap out of them then watch and see the out cry ......But like I said it is to late for any type of actions by police or parents.We have let these youth get away with murder for to long. Now we must pay the price. Unfortunately it is going to be someones kid who will feel the full brunt of peoples bent up frustrations....Ultimately some mother or father because of their inability to control their own kid. Will be crying how great their son or daughter was and they didnt need to be put in the hospital with serious injuries or killed for simply trying to break into someones car or house. I say crying will be to late you should have known when you let your kids roam around al night long on the streets that eventually this would happen to them..
Shame on the parents for having let your children become who they are...nothing but petty little thiefs... I blame the parents for this and ultimately they should be paying the price by being punished for their kids actions. Dont blame the kids, its not their fault parents and society let them become who they are today...They the adults are to blame for this..You know who you are and you should be ashamed of the way you have brought up your kids!!!!!!!!!!!
tigercat620c 10/24/2012 2:55:51 PM ReportI had my truck window smashed a few years ago at Sault College. They caught the kid on camera trying to return my books to the bookshop and were able to get my books back but there is no punishment for them.
Maybe if the parents had to pay the couple hundred dollars it cost to fix my window they would keep a better tab on their son.
It's true that crime is higher among those from broken homes. As a community we should be doing something to encourage family togetherness.
streaker 10/24/2012 3:29:18 PM Report99% of this stems from the young offenders act.No punishment for the crime and cannot post the criminals name. If these kids are caught what
happens to them a slap on the wrist and the next night back doing the same thing. It is our laws that have to change and the punishment for the crime.
These kids know they can get away with these crimes without any punishment.
The young offenders team up with adult criminals and do their dirty work with out repercussion.
I feel sorry for our police officers, for their hands are tied by this young offenders act.
nicole1414 10/24/2012 4:15:50 PM ReportAgree Tom_Bom.
Some parents just don't care. That's the heartbreaking part.
misschick316 10/24/2012 5:49:04 PM Reportwhy would these kids give a crap anyways. My car was broken into a couple of weeks ago. My husband chased them down the road. I call the cops they show up 20 mins later didnt get out of there car to talk to us, said he would check around for them, drove 100 feet down the street pulled a u turn and that was it for the night...good job!!! People need to start giving a crap about what is going on with the world today. The young offenders act should be done away with, how embarrassing would they feel to have their names plastered everywhere and maybe then the parents out of sheer embarrasment would actually give a damn
Jmann! 10/24/2012 7:18:46 PM ReportI'm in my late late 20's now and I work at very odd hours and it's beyond my belief to see so many young kids on the streets at 4-5am. One individual had a baby stroller, shouldn't that kid be in bed? Thing is, our society has been dumb down so bad that this is what we get in return, the lack of respect. That is not the way I was raised that is for sure.
As far as policing goes, last time I checked, the individuals customizing their own personal rides was not a crime. Focus on the task at hand, the criminals. Some of us are actually quite handy inside our own homes! Getting pretty tired of being pulled over and being ask who did my custom paint job every single year. Or how can I afford this etc... some of us have degrees still and make an honest living.
geterdun 10/24/2012 7:24:37 PM ReportHey Mr. Plus... ever watch TV in the states they set up bait cars....I realize the cops here dont want to get their fat butts out of their cars but maybe you could use this method to catch the perps just an idea ...I know you guys dont think outside the box much, with out getting like $67,000 or so to have a meeting to deal with it...LOL...
Oh and by the way I havnt seen to many criminals scoping out the snow dumbs lately maybe you guys could look some were else besides these spots for them.
Snowdon 10/25/2012 12:56:47 AM Reportbanshee_bob you have ZERO idea what you're talking about. Just spouting off the typical "MORE PRISONS!!!111!!! HARSHER SENTENCES!!!111!!!" nonsense that has been shown to fail at stemming criminal activity.
This is from a 2006 study on U.S. prisons. What did it find? Overcrowding, violent prisons with high recidivism rates.
"Within three years of their release, 67% of former prisoners are rearrested and 52% are re-incarcerated, a recidivism rate that calls into question the effectiveness of America's corrections system, which costs taxpayers $60 billion a year. Violence, overcrowding, poor medical and mental health care, and numerous other failings plague America's 5,000 prisons and jails."
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0933722.html
A different Pew Report study puts the figure lower at over 40% committing crimes within 3 years.
http://townhall.com/news/us/2011/04/13/pew_study_prison_recidivism_rates_remain_high
Regardless, the number is quite high and flies directly in your unsubstantiated comments.
As the 2nd article states, the U.S. through tens of billions of dollars at prisons PER YEAR, with little change in the recidivism rate. Where do you think that money comes from?
I highly doubt you would be okay with millions of dollars of taxpayers money PER YEAR being tied up in building more prisons, and providing more prison-related services, for little to no impact in re-offending rates. That is exactly what would happen if Canada adopted a more U.S. style of "lock 'em up" policies.
Canada for the most part has the right idea - sentencing guidelines tell us that prison is a last resort. It is far more effective to use rehabilitative sentences that avoid prison time in order to better reintegrate and help an offender become a better member of society (the caveat is that this isn't necessarily applicable for violent crimes, but we're talking about thefts, etc here).
I know where I want my taxpaying dollars to go towards.
moem 10/25/2012 1:28:36 AM ReportThese comments are hilarious first it's the " junkies and people on welfare leeching off the system" committing the crimes now it's 11-15 yr olds who need a curfew!! Make up your minds and physical abuse damages kids and whether or not you choose to say oh my parents did I'm fine that's up to you but it's wrong!! It's a slippery slope where would you draw the line one smack? 2?3? And do you use a belt? A switch? A fist what??? The last comment before my is the only one worth reading ( sorry I forgot ur user name) but well written
jackie17 10/25/2012 1:29:50 AM Reportwell it could be the parents doing this or maybe even Stephan Harper for all we know. A facial stubbled biased bible booklet dictator probably has more education than the people commenting this rubbish. Keep calm and chive on.
moem 10/25/2012 1:30:08 AM ReportAnd yes leaving valuables in your car is a pretty stupid thing to do I know I know we shouldn't have to lock up our stuff but hey guess what this isn't 1950!!
shaddow 10/25/2012 2:14:30 AM ReportI agree with a few posters that the laws have to change very,very quickly or someone is going to get seriously hurt. I know that if I seen some punk/punks doing vandalism & get caught & given a good beating, I would give the property owner a thumbs up & 'I seen nothing'. Bleeding hearts are a disgrace to what is happening. If their property was damaged they would scream blue heaven. But don't touch the punks. Hello! The Police can do nothing so the only answer is 'take the law into your own hands'. You are defending your property & they attacked you so it's self defense. You can not call the police then confront punks & tell them to wait around for 20 minutes till the Police get there. That's a real big LAUGH. When you grab & hold them you may have to persuade them to stick around and someone may get hurt. Do not have sympathy with thieving punks. If they try to get away stop they by any means. The law says you can use detain someone with reasonable force. I guess that means depending on the circumstances. Just my opinion on how to rectify a problem that is out of control & no one is doing anything because their 'hands are tied'. My answer is - untie your hands & do whatever you can. Whining will never accomplish anything - action will get results.
LivenTheDream 10/25/2012 4:59:47 AM ReportBottom line folks;
You are sleeping at night;
Someone who is walking around sees your car, they check the door, It's unlocked!! they open the door. Your change is in plain sight, toonies and loonies add up today, they just made some easy cash.
Consider this you just taught them that this is an easy way to make cash; you bear "partial" responsibility for every door they check from that point on.
Think about this;
you left your key in the car; the darling young offender takes your car and runs down an innocent, hard working, youth heading home from working a long shift at MacDonald's. They are maimed or killed.
Would you wish you were more "responsible" and took your key out of your car. It happens; and lawyers look for who has insurance and money or a house when it comes to compensating the innocent victim here.
think about it; be responsible for your actions!!
cityhallguy 10/25/2012 9:47:41 AM ReportSnowdon...
What about the re-re-re-re-re-offenders!!! That's what most on the site are getting at!!! First time, absolutely try rehabilitation, but what about the regulars??? At some point, the system becomes a joke!!!
Zarm27 10/25/2012 6:10:16 PM ReportMuch like bears the elusive criminals must prepare for hibernation during the winter (because their footprints could be followed in the snow), it's good however that they're reminding the public that we're part of this town and should be doing our part instead of sitting in front of a computer screen b*tching about things and blaming others.
Zarm27 10/25/2012 6:10:17 PM ReportMuch like bears the elusive criminals must prepare for hibernation during the winter (because their footprints could be followed in the snow), it's good however that they're reminding the public that we're part of this town and should be doing our part instead of sitting in front of a computer screen b*tching about things and blaming others.
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