Ricky charged with drinking and driving

celest5 10/21/2012 9:16:05 AM Report

I have a solution, if I were the Mayor of this city, I would close down all those damn bars, Yeah I know I`m mean, my son once told me I was a little Sergeant. Maybe every bar should have a fleet of cars to take these people home, you know job creation, but then that would take the business away from the taxi service.

sweetc 10/21/2012 10:55:27 AM Report

Taxi service? What taxi service? when you have to wait over 45 minutes for a taxi what kind of service is that? Maybe if it were a little less of a wait people would be more inclined to take a taxi.

VRM 10/21/2012 12:32:39 PM Report

Moem, please look at my reply with regards to the last charge. Stop insinuating that I'm defending these people. I haven't trolled or made any direct accusation or anything of the sort to belittle any posters on this site. I only offer a viewpoint without making any assumptions. Disagree - fine. But debate with substance and fact. Not feelings. Feelings turn into arguments and thats not getting us to the bottom of this problem.

TankGirl 10/21/2012 1:32:27 PM Report

Closing downs bars is a ludicrous "solution". D you think people will sit at home alone and drink? They will be driving to each others houses instead of bars. That and, drinking isn't the problem. Stupid decisions are the root of the problem.

Reserve a cab early in the night for a specific time. Problem solved.

Bring a DD. problem solved.

If you can do one of those two things, you shouldn't be going out to a bar. Problem solved.

moem 10/21/2012 1:36:54 PM Report

Vrm

I see only two facts he was over the legal limit and he drove the wrong way down a one way, you are actually the one that used speculation in your comments. If you are interested in another fact look up the laws on breath tests and you will see that they are administered randomly only when police have just cause ie the driver appears impaired. They are also used at RIDE stops but these stops are not considered random as everyone must stop. So you are the one using feelings to debate not facts. Drunk driving kills too many people and these deaths are completely avoidable!! People need to be responsible for their actions, I stunned by the number of people on here who feel that "we don't know the facts so we shouldn't assume" the article about the bay mills man sexually assaulting an 8 yr old girl is just another example. People felt 30 yrs was too long a sentence bc we didn't have all the facts, yet the fact we did have was a man admitting to doing it 3 times, mind you it didn't give explicit details about what happened but as a parent it matters not to me what exactly he did only that am 8 yr old girl will never ever be the same again bc of him. If you want to debate fact with me then go ahead but if you reread your other post I think you might find some speculations

sweetc 10/21/2012 2:39:10 PM Report

I am going to pose a question. Not because I am defending drinking and driving because I don't condone it what so ever. I will not even have one drink and drive and have maintained this since I have gotten my license but... here is the question.

How many of the posters on here can say with conviction that they have NEVER driven while they were over the legal limit. ..

mallet 10/21/2012 5:54:09 PM Report

Drypaint...

Better idea is to confiscate the car, putting them in jail just costs you and I, thats for just DUI, now for hurting someone that's attempted murder and you go away for a long time and for actually killing someone that's first degree and you do life. There are some countries that will, if you have an accident and you have the smell of alcohol on you and someone dies, you get put up against the nearest wall and shot. I would not suggest that, the civil liberties people would want my head, however if you want to stop drinking and driving then make it too expensive to do...

VRM 10/21/2012 9:13:06 PM Report

What you don't seem to understand is that the "legal limit" is an arbitrary value.
Seeing that is has been continuously adjusted means that the number has never been
perfect and thus flawed, one way or another. And because it has been changed, it is relative. Use dictionary.com or google the things I say and find the stats. Your ignorance bores me. Metabolizing alcohol is by no means extraneous. Google it. Alcohol affects people differently. Fact. I did many studies in University, so while my stats on turning from tancred are based on observation, my experience with alcohol in a scientific setting is not. Where you get off on lecturing about RIDE programs is beyond this conversation and never came up. Bringing up sexual assault is an entire different story. Irrelevant. Fact.
The problem with many people is that laws exist because there is a fundamental problem with society. So, instead of fixing it, we create laws. Laws change, and are therefore imperfect, just like your logic.
You are relying on other humans to make judgements? aka police? Are you eyes blinded by
the number of errors made, and the corruption that exists within a number of ranks of departments?
I'll give you the facts because I see it with my own eyes. My children have gone to that school, and numerous people do it on a daily basis. Challenge that fact, and go park your ass at the intersection.
Your sarcastic remarks are tiring. Point out the speculation with regards to the previous story. I attempted to be friendly and partially agreed with you, but if you want to banter, go for it.
Oh, and I wasn't even defending the particular case and not justifying anything. People like you who assume the worst are the people who would place a law on everything to ensure you could live in a safe little bubble. I don't believe in drunk driving, but I don't believe in garbage accusations and blind obedience in a robotic society where posters like yourself sit around and act like vultures whenever a story pops up about someone breaking a law.

Sorry to everyone else, including this website for that rant. I'm sick of people ripping other people apart or making snarky remarks behind their computer screens. Go ask these people charged their sides of the stories and then tell them how you feel.

moem 10/21/2012 11:03:03 PM Report

Absolutely, anyone caught driving while over the legal limit should be subject to fines, jail, impoundment etc... Whether I know them or not! I have a family member who is a recovering alcoholic and when I was younger and he drank and drove I used to wish he would get caught... Does that answer your question? I'm not a hypocrite and I practice what I preach I already answered the question about whether I have ever driven after drinking if I myself don't do it why would I think it's ok for my family or friends to do it?? Do you read the other comments before you respond??

moem 10/21/2012 11:42:53 PM Report

Vrm do you know what extraneous means? And my point about it not be arbitrary is that it is in fact the law... I brought up the ride program bc I wanted you to understand that for him to be breath tested he HAD to be showing signs of impairment... You started this by trying to explain away his behavior and actually if you read my posts on other articles you will see that I tend to empathize with people who suffer from addiction and mental health and I see throwing the book at people who commit petty crimes as bring futile! I do however see drunk driving as a serious crime that puts me and you and our kids at risk, and I don't need to sit at the intersection to make observations bc like I said the facts were as they were but you had some misguided idea that he was avoiding a loop blah blah btw was that even the intersection he was at?? How far are we allowed to drive the wrong way?? Your studies don't seem to be serving you well as you made statements and then tried to dig out of them, why did you even offer an explanation for his behavior it made no sense and hopefully your children won't ever be injured by careless drivers by their school, and if I had a family member who was injured by a drunk driver I wouldn't even be able to face them after making the comments you did why not show them this debate??? See if their first thought is to think up an explanation to this driver, they are probably grateful every day to be alive and talk about bringing up ridiculous things how about your pasta sauce comment and your issues with laws etc what were you a poli sci major lol

speed7 10/21/2012 11:52:20 PM Report

I dont think they will ever be able to control drinking and impaired driving. Maybe if they raised the legal age for drinking up to 25 or something but still the government would'nt be able to suck up all those liqour taxes, RST and GST that they supposedly lowered on liquor a few years ago and they offset that quite nicely with an increase in liquor prices. The average price of a bottle of beer now is what 5.75 each or something? It makes so much sense that the younger the drinker the more profit to be made and of course, the beaurocrats get fatter. Nice!

moem 10/22/2012 12:52:14 AM Report

Vrm

If you think I troll or am a vulture waiting for crime stories to write negative comments perhaps check out some other articles maybe the Saturday morning break and enter one... See how negative I am....I stand up for people whose voice can't be heard but I have no tolerance for drunk drivers, if the individual was a fraction over it will come out in court and if it does he will be free, but I won't take back any of what I said about drunk drivers, of which he will not be one,,,, maybe I will go check out court that day bc I'm sure sootoday won't vindicate him with another story

PlasmaX 10/22/2012 7:55:27 AM Report

Raising the legal limit to 25 would do absoultely nothing to help fight drinking and driving. From most of the articles I read on here and from other sources the offender is usually over 25 years of age.