Dictionary 10/17/2012 6:01:32 PM Report
sounds to me like the ranking officers are getting off and the junior cops are getting thrown under the bus to satisfy public opinion.
Prrrrrrr 10/17/2012 6:14:39 PM Report
They are the ones who didn't give the breath test right?
Lynx 10/17/2012 6:52:19 PM Report
As far as I am concerned this matter should have been dealt with straight away, that day.
#1 the driver - no breath test after admitting he had a 'few' c'mon. There is something wrong right there!!
To Patricia Nesbitt - I commend you for persuing this matter in honor and memory of your son, Matt and to set the record straight. May he R.I.P.
GuitarHero99 10/17/2012 7:04:40 PM Report
WAY TO GO SOO POLICE!! LOOKS GOOD ON YOU! I HOPE MORE PEOPLE STAND UP AND FIGHT.
SooToday Moderator 10/17/2012 9:35:47 PM Report
Please respect the posting guidelines and stay on topic.
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danno2257 10/17/2012 9:50:41 PM Report
Now I hope real justice can finally be served !
JustMe1234567 10/17/2012 9:57:44 PM Report
I don't know any of those involved personally, but in my opinion after reading the full report last year (it's out there online somewhere) this team of police messed up in a lot of places.
Now that some decisions have been overturned, I feel better.
For now. Let's see what unfolds next.
Imagine how Matt's family must feel? This is still dragging out in October of 2012.
Praise goes to his Mom to take this to another level in her search for justice. Most people would have just given up awash in defeat by now.
lucyp 10/17/2012 10:02:11 PM Report
just a comment to sootoday, why is it you pick and choose which stories can be commented on? for example no comments allowed on the issure with the hounds, careful what you put on with this, and all comments (not very nice ones)on something so great like the cup coming to the north....don't understand...
opinionated 10/17/2012 10:05:31 PM Report
Because people ruin it for everyone. The death of someone was involved here, this is a serious matter. All parties involved (including the police) deserve civility in the least.
danno2257 10/17/2012 10:21:42 PM Report
Opinionated these cops have had to much civility wake up.
Roscue 10/17/2012 10:44:42 PM Report
I would love to see how each of you would react in a situation like this? It is easy to bash the officers but most people can never understand what is thrown at them on a daily basis. A critical incident is very different from anything else in life. At the end of the day, most officers always do what is right. Unfortunately there are times when things may not be text book? I hope that all those who comment are the next ones to be nailed to the cross, obviously you are perfect??????
danno2257 10/17/2012 11:11:59 PM Report
Roscue, you should wakeup what if this was your child.
Roscue 10/17/2012 11:32:39 PM Report
You have missed the point, obviously you can carry on your daily routine as the PERFECT person you are. My children are subjected to numerous activities(volunteer as well as paid), which makes them better individuals. Perhaps you should lead by example and show everyone how to make respond to these scenarios, you obviously are far superior?
danno2257 10/17/2012 11:41:08 PM Report
I myself have had dealing with Darren Sirie and he was so unfare he told me right out I,am not listening to your side of the story and started bulling me on my own front steps.
Roscue 10/17/2012 11:49:47 PM Report
Generally when you are dealing with officers,it is not because it is a beautiful day. Why should they side with you? The Sault is not a crazy place, but unfortunately it has put people on edge. Do you really think that when an officer approaches, he is there for no reason? He approaches with necessary precaution, hopefully my kids don't give a reason for unnecessary results???????
JustMe1234567 10/17/2012 11:53:32 PM Report
Would you mind elaborating Danno? Why did you need a side?
danno2257 10/18/2012 12:02:03 AM Report
It would have been very democratic and fare , peace officer should be fare and listen to both side but if you are that far in the dark fogget it you are lost and don,t even know all cops are not good ones.
danno2257 10/18/2012 12:08:06 AM Report
Just me,sorry neighbor and I had a dispute and they called 911
frauleinbroomhilda 10/18/2012 1:01:22 AM Report
Come on Sault Ste. Marie...police officers please step up to the plate. A young boy is dead and it's OK? I don't think so! This poor family needs closure. Where's you're heart. I'm just sick! People need to be held responsible for this boys death. If you don't have the balls to admit it....I hope you live with this the rest of your life miserably. How sick you people really are!!!!
KMF61MCF 10/18/2012 1:07:53 AM Report
Bless you Patricia Nesbitt and your Family i wish you and your Family the very best.Proud of you and your family in persuing justice for your son Matt may he rest in peace.
frauleinbroomhilda 10/18/2012 1:22:07 AM Report
Patricia: Get an out of town lawyer! No connections and a lot of drive for justice. Sink the ones that care more about their own lives and not the truth. You're SON is worth it! Remember... They all stick together and protect each other no matter what. God Bless! Be Strong and remember what you're fighting for. YOUR SON.
Bad Dawg 10/18/2012 1:28:03 AM Report
RIP Matt.... he was taken too soon no matter the circumstances. I hope his family gets some sort of closure. Matt was killed and there was no justice! These days killers drive and may be drunk on your street, when our kids are walking to and from school. We need to protect ourselves from others making bad choices....... sounds impossible but Patricia is doing it right now!!
frauleinbroomhilda 10/18/2012 1:54:19 AM Report
Please Patricia ...keep fighting!!! You're son deserves justice no matter what the cost. Justice will prevail in the end! Please fight for all and be strong!
Rachel01 10/18/2012 4:14:45 AM Report
I am so glad this is a continuance. Let's pray justice will be served !!!
tasma 10/18/2012 6:38:47 AM Report
Yeah SSM wake up! The police didn't kill that young man an inattentive possibly impaired driver did why isn't he getting tarred and feathered on here instead of the police. They were doing their job yes they were front line officers but in the end the two higher ranking officers should wear some of the mistakes made as they are the ones that say yeah or ney to what the original officers did.
Moonshiner 10/18/2012 7:57:57 AM Report
Police have shown times over they will breathalize on the slightest suspicion of DUI!.This was a fatality investigation!How can that have been overlooked?
ttb 10/18/2012 8:21:57 AM Report
So the higher your rank in the force, the more incompetent you can be?!!
That is rich. I feel like I'm watching an old dukes of hazzard episode. Tragic part is a young life was taken, this is real!
So Police! Act like real people and take full responsibility for this complete snafu!!!
JustMe1234567 10/18/2012 8:45:54 AM Report
Thanks for answering my question Danno.
tasma- I don't think anyone is saying the police killed the young man, the point is because of things done (or not done) at the scene of the crime, we will NEVER KNOW the real truth. Was the driver drunk? WE WILL NEVER KNOW NOW, because the police didn't take a breath sample. Was there any forensic evidence on the vehicle, we don't know because it was driven from the scene of a fatal accident (instead of towed), And driven from the scene by a police officer no less, have you ever heard of such a thing happening? I am appalled by that fact alone. (it's all in the court report from last year)
Mistakes were made in this investigation and Matt's Mom deserves justice.
thumbs4208 10/18/2012 8:52:54 AM Report
Agreed ttb - it's not highschool anymore - not who you know - get it together to prevent more and take some responsibility
benjicanfreak 10/18/2012 8:57:39 AM Report
What happened to Mr. Howard was terrible, and tragic. But we must also remember that it was an accident. Although I do not feel that the driver should have gotten off scott free, he does have to wake up every day knowing that he killed an innocent young man. His name is out there, people know what happened. It's not like he isn't being punished. And spending years upon years blaming the officers who investigated is not going to bring Matt back. Clearly this young man's mother is looking for closure in the wrong places. I know I am coming off as a completely heartless person, but when you put your emotions aside and take a better look at the situation, that is exactly what is going on.
thumbs4208 10/18/2012 9:00:51 AM Report
Heartless yes - the point is that the investigation was not done properly - the Mother deserved that - waked up dude
This is it 10/18/2012 9:09:59 AM Report
The reason the driver was not breathelized was because he is a friend of one of the officers. This is just another example of police corruption. The sad part is a young man lost his life and his family will not see justice. It's one person covering up anothers mistakes. Just remember in the sault its all about who you know and people with friends in high places get away with murder.
thumbs4208 10/18/2012 9:53:25 AM Report
yeah like I said - little high school soap opera's
Wheels17 10/18/2012 10:10:45 AM Report
This would be a terrible thing for any mother to go through. The police haven't done their job to provide any justice to the family. They have just created a big conspiracy with no definitive answers. Does no one got above and beyond the line of duty anymore?
SuzyyQ 10/18/2012 10:19:00 AM Report
there is definitely something wrong here ! I recall back in 1989, I was coming home from being at the bars in Sault, Michigan, and there was a ride check at the Sault Customs boarder. I was asked if I had been drinking and I said yes, I had about 4 drinks. I then was asked to pull over and they did a breathalizer test on me. I just blew "warning" and was given a 12-hour driver's license suspension. Let me tell you that THAT was an eye opener for me. Ever since that experience, I never drive after having even just one drink. The point is, I was asked to "blow", and what happened in the Matt Howard case was unacceptable.
moem 10/18/2012 10:28:35 AM Report
I am so tired of reading about the ongoing efforts of Ms Nesbit to punish the officers involved in the investigation of the tragic accident that resulted in the death of her son. Had the officers asked Mr. Biocchi for a roadside breath test, they would have been in error as we have seen in the Ontario Court of Appeals ruling. Here is something to consider - what if the officers had asked the only eye witness for a breathalizer test for her. After all the only info we have on the actual collision came from the eye witness who was allegedly walking on the wrong side of the darkened road with the victim after a party of drinking and drugs. Was her statement reliable since she could be in error due to intoxication. OF COURSE THEY DIDN'T ASK HER FOR A BREATH SAMPLE - IT WOULD HAVE INFRINGED HER CHARTER RIGHTS - the same would be true had they asked Mr. Biocchi for a sample. It may be hard for everyone to accept but this was an accident that resulted in a death of a young man. However, has anyone really thought about the victim's contribution to the out come. Please stop trying to destroy the lives of the officers involved and let Matt Howard rest in peace.
SuzyyQ 10/18/2012 10:33:12 AM Report
moem: do you have complete knowledge of the "charter of rights" and law enforcement? If so, then please explain to me how I was asked for a breathalizer test at a "ride check" and yet a person involved in a fatality is not obliged to have one????
purplepussycat 10/18/2012 10:48:51 AM Report
Was there not evidence that proved the driver was on his cell phone?? Distracted perhaps? I feel so sad for this family and believe from the reports that the police did not handle this tragedy properly. Justice for Matt Howard and if in the end they are still found inculpable, they will live with this horrible guilt for the rest of their lives!
moem 10/18/2012 11:32:46 AM Report
the Supreme Court of Canada that under section 1 of the Charter the individual'a rights could be infringed for the "greater Good" if it would assist in getting drunk drivers off the roads. You were asked for a breath sample at road side RIDE program. If you had been driving along and arbitrarily stopped by the police and exhibited no sign of impairment and were asked for a breath sample then your rights would be infringed and your results would not be admissible in court. Do you ever read articles in the paper when someone walks away from a driving while impaired charge because their rights were infringed. The Charter is there to protect our rights but sometimes the courts have to look at the greater good for society. That is why you can be asked for a sample at at RIDE check.
moem 10/18/2012 11:43:28 AM Report
SuzzyQ the case is R. v. Ladouceur 1990 and you could look it up to get a better understanding.
Purple Pussycat - did anyone check the victim's cell phone records to determine if he was in attentive to what he was doing at the time of the accident - it was dark , he was on the wrong side of the road and we will never know what his blood alcohol level was - could he have been intoxicated and stumbled out in the path of the vehicle? It was a tragic accident- let's put an end to it. No one involved can get on with healing if this continues.
KMF61MCF 10/18/2012 11:46:58 AM Report
I have to agree with "that is me" with the fact the driver is a friend of one of the Officers. I know when we were bones by a person on a cell phone who ran a stop sign and hit us the Officer did not drive our car home for us. I also haver to say when there are "ride check points set up of coarse the Officers tell there buddies friends where to avoid being caught drinking and driving. I have a neighbor who daily drinks and driven even had a crash on a dark back road. Only person he injured was himself knocked a few of his own teeth out and totaled his car to a write off. This person has a Supervisor Officer as a "friend" who is at a neighbors residence several times a week in Uniform, Even when the person isn't home the Supervisor.In fact this neighbor was driving 3 months later. Thought 1st offense was a 1 Year suspension?? Ya corruptness exists with in our Police force. I had a cousin killed by a drunk driver it leaves an emptiness. So Mrs. Nesbitt Please find a Lawyer outside of the Sault and keep the fight for your son. God Bless you
JustMe1234567 10/18/2012 11:57:52 AM Report
moem-there are no "accidents". There are incidents, there are collisions, there are drivers on their phones distracted, there are drunk drivers, there are sleeping drivers swerving off the road.
Any and all of which are not an accident...not intended perhaps, but not 'just an accident'
It pains me that anyone would blame the victim in this situation, at all, for any reason. Have you been to the roadside memorial that is in the photo on this story? Go there, see where this happened, I can't imagine being attentively driving my car in that area and not seeing two young people on the road. You know, with those things they call headlights.
moem 10/18/2012 12:03:46 PM Report
Are you that naive that you haven't realized that many people derive while under suspension for a driving while abilities were impaired charge. You pay a lot of attention to your neighbour perhaps you should spend some time paying attention to articles in the paper regarding convictions of people arrested because they have been driving while suspended for the second or even third time. Perhaps they think this time will be different - I won't get caught because I'm not going far. Worse yet your idea that their buddy the police officer will give them a heads up as to the location of Ride programs. It shameful that you are making accusations against the police unless of course you have direct knowledge. If that is the case, perhaps you should take your FACTS to the Crown's office.
moem 10/18/2012 12:11:09 PM Report
Attentive as a driver can be - it was dark and I doubt that the walkers had on safety vests making them "glow in the dark" - I am just suggesting that none of us knows all of the facts. It may just be an example of contributory negligence on the part of the victim since he was out late, leaving a drinking party, walking on the wrong side of the road.....
SuzyyQ 10/18/2012 12:30:33 PM Report
moem, I'm sorry, but in defence of the VICTIM, walking on the wrong side of the road or being drunk are NOT contributory facts. The question is this: (since I don't know all the facts), was the victim walking ON THE ROAD in the line of traffic? THAT is the question.
SuzyyQ 10/18/2012 12:32:15 PM Report
danno2257 10/18/2012 12:36:12 PM Report
moem, are you sleep typing cause your clueless.
KMF61MCF 10/18/2012 1:03:12 PM Report
Firstly accusing the Police? Yes i have first hand knowledge. Go to the Crown? How about the RCMP? hmm How about Crime Stoppers? Better yet the OPP. We share a driveway ya so i see a lot. I see a lot of drunks even one fell on his face being good buddies they are helped him into his truck he drove away. I called the cops they said "well by the time we find him he probably will be home" Ok then don't bother doing that again HOW NIEVE of me. i just pray they do not kill another family member of mine. If you do not think our Cops have some corruption them who is Nieve? Was Officer Freeman not involved in another Drunk driving situation once before? The neighbor who was caught drinking and driving drives around with a 219 commemorative sticker on his car what a Hypocrite!Police are a brotherhood they stick together.
danno2257 10/18/2012 1:45:36 PM Report
KMF61MCF; Who ever you are your not living in the dark and I agree with everthing you have stated,you hit the nail on the head and how can cops investigate cops when they all stick together as they do.
Bad Dawg 10/18/2012 2:05:32 PM Report
I too have had the neighbors call his buddy the cop everytime I fired up my sled or quad (never early morning or late night).... I didn't break any laws and told him if he gives me a ticket for distubing the peace I will fight it in court.
I did mention that if he gives me a ticket I will have you charged with intimidation, corruption and police harrassment cause the only reason you are here is because my neighbor WHO I KNOW IS YOUR BUDDY told you to tell me to be quiet.... I wanted to be served by another officer..... no one came back. They can't scare me when I know I have not done anything wrong.
frauleinbroomhilda 10/18/2012 2:07:35 PM Report
You know...I believe so much in karma and to this day, karma will nail whoever killed that poor boy no matter what. Whether it's living with the guilt for the rest of their lives, something this tragic happening to their families, suicide because they just can't live with what they did and the list goes on and on. You know who you are and what you did and believe me...it'll bite you in your ASS when you least expect it.
danno2257 10/18/2012 2:11:51 PM Report
Bad Dawg you may charge that cop but good luck on a conviction ,cops look after cops,beleive me I tried .
stitchbogart 10/18/2012 2:19:20 PM Report
I refer you to SSM By-law #4100 which states:
1. Noises Prohibited
In the City of Sault Ste. Marie, no person shall:
(1) ring any bell or cause or permit any bell to be rung;
(2) blow or sound any horn or cause or permit any horn to be blown or
(3) create, cause or permit any unusual noise; or
(4) create, cause or permit any noise likely to disturb the inhabitants.
**Pay CLOSE attention to #4**
If your snowmachine noise bothers somebody, it is in contravention of By-law 4100(4).
stitchbogart 10/18/2012 2:26:02 PM Report
And it doesn't matter what time of day it is. If it bothers somebody then it bothers somebody and they have a right to call the police. It's a valid complaint any time of day.
danno2257 10/18/2012 2:51:23 PM Report
Depend if cop is on your side.
KMF61MCF 10/18/2012 3:03:01 PM Report
EXACTLY danno Amen to that right on
stitchbogart 10/18/2012 3:57:00 PM Report
The point was trying to make is that noise may not bother some people but may bother others. Its a city bylaw intended to stop people from causing unnecessary 'noise pollution'.
rache 10/18/2012 4:56:03 PM Report
I am so tired of reading the citizens of this town bashing its police. The police in this town are understaffed, and over staffed. Just the simple admission of consuming alcohol doesnt necessitate the need for a breath demand. THere has to be some physical signs of impairment to proceed with it. In this instance there were none. So a breath demand was not pursued. This is a tragic, tragic, horrific incident that happened. I couldnt imagine how the family must feel, but lost in all this in ones responsibility to protect themselves. There is an inherant risk when walking intoxicated down a dark stretch of road at 3am. Just like there is more chance of getting hurt playing hockey then chess. We all growing up have done things like that, but unfortunately and tragically for Mr Howard., that decision to walk on a dark road that night cost him his life. The police arent at fault here. They handled a sensitive situatiion with professionalism and care as they do the majority of times in town. I can understand the overwhelming urge to have someone to point the finger at when a son or any family member is killed. But one has to take responsibility for their own actions at times, and in this instance, there has been none. I know for a fact there are several times I put my own safety at risk walking at night, under the influence, and for whatever reason, I was allowed to return home safely each time. But I know by making that decision, and not taking a taxi of having a DD, I put my safety, and my life in danger. Not the police.
rache 10/18/2012 4:56:30 PM Report
I meant to say understaffed and over worked
KMF61MCF 10/18/2012 5:38:31 PM Report
Drive past Tim Horton's and see 3 cop cars parked umm ya UNDERSTAFFED rotflmao
danno2257 10/18/2012 6:13:23 PM Report
They had had time for a breath test come on,if it was me they would have given one come on now.
SuzyyQ 10/18/2012 7:15:17 PM Report
Who has more senority, Freeman or Sirie? Perhaps it was Freeman who made the call and Sirie just had to go along with it? Who knows? We don't know.
danno2257 10/18/2012 7:36:44 PM Report
Sirie was first on the seen!
JustMe1234567 10/18/2012 11:20:21 PM Report
In response to "rache"
Why are you blaming the victim? Have you ever driven down that exact stretch of Queen at night...in the rain...in the snow? I have a zillion times, it's not dark, and I might add it has a paved shoulder oh, and street lamps. (on the side the kids were walking!) Yet you paint a scene that is much different.
"There is an inherant risk when walking intoxicated down a dark stretch of road at 3am."
I have to agree to disagree with your whole thought process on this subject.
67Tanger 10/18/2012 11:48:13 PM Report
I know thru a personal experience that our police force is corrupt. An off duty OPP run a red light and smashed into my vehicle causing considerable damage. He openly admitted to being 100 percent at fault and also made the same statement to the investigating officer.
A week after the accident I was told by the insurance company no charges were laid. I went the police station and inquired why not. Mr trudeau advised me they made a judgement call and when I explained the OPP admitted fault he told me that was hearsay and was not permissable in a court of law. He went on to say it was my word against a police officer.
Well I persued the matter and with the help of a witness,the officer was charged and found guilty in a court of law. (by the way...the judge did not interupt my testimony by saying it was "hearsay" My witness did lose 6 hrs pay at Essar while attending court. I asked the police to cover his losses but was told the police force did nothing wrong.
I did give Mrs Nesbitt this bit of info concerning mr trudeau.
To sum it up, there is some corruption on the SOO police force but I do know a lot of good reliable police on the force also.......
Rachel01 10/19/2012 1:23:27 AM Report
OK heres a fun fact to lighten up a few souls that are pro or con who the actual killer is. Firstly it wasn't the witness that killed Matt...secondly the killer admitted to having a beer and in my opinion one is too many to drive as I've not often seen anyone drink one beer when having A beer. This is all so blatantly corrupt.
SuzyyQ 10/19/2012 7:25:39 AM Report
I don't know about police corruption on our police force, but what I DO know is that I had a police constable as a tenant a few years ago, thinking they would be respectful of my property, etc. Then there was a kitchen fire because he wasn't watching while he was cooking. I made the mistake of not inspecting the issue. He failed to disclose to me the extent of the damages. He offered to paint. I out of the goodness of my heart, bought paint for him. Then when he moved out, I discovered the stove's oven hadn't been cleaned in 4 YEARS and was deemed a fire hazard. The paintjob he did was very sloppy and I had to call in a professional. That resulted in having to buy more paint. I send the former tenant (police constable) a bill; and this guy had the audacity to enclose a note with his cheque stating he deducted $40.00 for the paint since I had agreed to buy paint. THEN, a year later his name is on the list of people earning a 6 figure salary!!! I can't believe the balls on this guy, deducting $40 for a fire that HE CAUSED. I have photo evidence of the stove and I sent him copies. He should be ashamed of himself. Earning over $100,000 and stiffing me $40. Wow.
moem 10/19/2012 10:43:54 AM Report
I stopped posting yesterday when it became a cop bashing set of comments. I am so glad that you took the time to post a rational point of view. People feel bad admitting that the victim was partially responsible for the events that took his life. But the truth is the truth. I don't see why people want to keep trying to blame someone for the tragedy. The police handled the situation just as the law would require as proven by the OCA ruling. If people are so sure that all of the local police force are protecting one another whenever there is a problem then perhaps they need to document such instances with their proof and submit it to the Police Services board and have it investigated. I strongly suspect that most of what was posted is supposition on the part of the complainers and not many will come forward with anything but hearsay and "mind reading" _ ie. I know what they were doing at my neighbour's etc.
It is time to let this go and Ms Nisbett needs to get on with healing.
SuzyyQ 10/19/2012 10:58:23 AM Report
moem: question: (because I didn't research the facts), exactly WHAT happened that night? Was it proven that the victim was walking in the path of traffic, OR, did the driver drive off of the road into the shoulder where the couple were walking? I would like to know the answers to my questions and if you know the facts, please tell me.
KMF61MCF 10/19/2012 11:15:25 AM Report
Ok i have a question? I guess i am nieve maybe someone can explain something to me. One day in class a fellow student was telling his "narc story" He said they came into his home searched it and charged him with possession of cocaine he says he had a "pound" of "cocaine" He said when he appeared in court with his Lawyer the charge read out in court was he was charged with 2.3 GRAMS of cocaine. He said he though to himself hmmm where did the rest of His dope go?? Now i don't understand where would it have gone??? The Police confiscated a pound he said?
moem 10/19/2012 11:47:09 AM Report
SuzzyQ - No one knows the facts since they did not have enough evidence to reach a conviction I assume that they made am investigation of the scene. I suggested that the possibility exists that the young man could have stumbled into traffic. He was walking with his female friend and she was not injured - a natural conclusion would be that she was not in the path of the vehicle and the only scenario would be that he was not beside her -perhaps stumbled away and in the wrong direction.
Often people like to brag about how much they had in their possesion when arrested for a drug charge - it makes them look like a "player". And you may be naive if you think that whatever he had was pure cocaine- the fact is they cut their drugs to make a larger profit and when it comes to court the charge only relates to the amount of the pure drug not the fillers.
SuzyyQ 10/19/2012 12:46:20 PM Report
moem, then, with all due respect, YOU can't just assume since, as you stated, no one knows the facts. And to assume that the young man walked into the roadway into oncoming traffic is not fair, nor is it logical. It's not good to "assume".
GuitarHero99 10/19/2012 12:50:40 PM Report
THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR RUNNING SOMEONE OVER. RACHE AND MOEM: GET AN ENEMA. POLICE IN THIS CITY ARE TRULY A JOKE AND CORRUPT - I HAPPEN TO KNOW FOR A FACT.
danno2257 10/19/2012 1:17:07 PM Report
Its not weather Mr.Biocchi is at fault , not at this point its wether Darren Sirie and William Freeman neglected to do their duty as Police officers and not give a breath test.Biocchi may have been better off getting tested, know one will know now.
Scootz 10/19/2012 2:03:03 PM Report
These comments are really disheartening.
First of all for those who work you all realize that employees are required to take breaks. Think of it this way....the police cruisers are the Police Officers' office, and to take a break and get a coffee they need to remove themselves from their offices (their cars).
Secondly, the only individuals that do know all the facts on what happened and how it happened are the police constables and the witness. So when individuals in this chat "think" they know what happened and why it happened you probably don't, so why comment on the event?
Finally, I do feel terrible for Matt's family however why feel the need to continually push these officers to the wolves is unjustly in itself. The charges were throughly investigated against the officers and dropped...this was not police corruption as it was not the local Police services that made the decision.
What I do know is at night when I am sleeping, I feel safe in our community because the Police are out their protecting the streets, which means in my view they are doing their jobs.
SuzyyQ 10/19/2012 2:17:06 PM Report
Scootz, correction to your statement, the police constables do NOT know all the facts because they were NOT witnesses! They did NOT witness the accident. Sorry that I had to "call you" on this but if you're going to make a statement, you should review what you write first, before you submit.
Scootz 10/19/2012 10:28:28 PM Report
SuzieQ...you are absolutely correct but the police would have retained the witness' statement...they are only as good as the information they are provided with....just saying....