fishin4alivin 10/3/2012 11:59:57 AM Report
We are the next generation and we stand together in UNITY, what affects our teachers affects the student body!
SaultJammer 10/3/2012 12:13:44 PM Report
FYI - This is currently happening all over Ontario right now. Check out CBC news and other Canadian news feeds to see just how far-reaching this protest is actually going.
And why is it happening? - because of yet another BS move by our completely inept government to cut educational spending. Do the powers-to-be think our youth don't need physical activities beyond the 9-3 school day?
Obviously not; just look at how FAT most politicians are today! They have truly forgotten what is was like to be young and full of life!!! LAZY BASTARDS!
B Boy 10/3/2012 12:16:36 PM Report
From an educational perspective I believe your generation is probably going to be the most screwed over generation.
I just urge all of the students to look at the root cause. It disgusts me if students are being used as pawns, but please exercise critical thought before acting. Do your research.
I blame both sides - the Ministry and the teachers. I think both sides are being silly & irresponsible. BOTH are asking for too much.
Yes there are issues where teachers didn't really seem to think about the career they were getting into and should have known what to expect - it's not a 9-5 career and NEVER has been.
Yes the Ontario government are making some all-around idiotic changes to the school system that even for Liberals astonishes me.
I credit the students that are thinking critically and doing their research for standing up for themselves - good example for the adults who spend hours complaining and no time taking action.
speed7 10/3/2012 12:19:14 PM Report
Well suck it up! The new generation is spoiled disrespectfull and lazy that's why you really walked out. Nothing to do with extra curricular activities at all isnt it? The generation sure is becoming pretty good and stirring up the S&#@*! Is that how you handle life as an adult? Walk out when its convienient for you?
B Boy 10/3/2012 12:25:20 PM Report
Speed- pretty ignorant assumption.
I agree that as an employee and maybe even socially this youngest generation leaves alot to be desired, however every generation has said that about the next - the previous would have said the same thing about you.
And yes many adults do the same thing - divorce, quitting jobs, etc. Why not give them some credit for taking positive action? Maybe they are out there formulating an action plan?
Let's teach & guide the younger generation.
speed7 10/3/2012 12:25:50 PM Report
B Boy teachers arent asking for too much they havent asked for anything. Only to have fair collective bargaining rights! It didnt affect you students one I- OTA! The government are the screw ups not teachers.
All the extra curricular activities are done on a volunteer basis on top of their already too busy shedule teaching.
speed7 10/3/2012 12:27:30 PM Report
B Boy I am not ingorant by any means. Get a life stop shovelling the S*%@! When you dont have your facts straight!
lostinspace 10/3/2012 12:32:36 PM Report
Yeah imagaine the kids walking out. How can you criticize them when they are taking the lead from teachers that are fighting for this exact right!!
I think each generation is just as good as the one that is teaching them values and respect.
B Boy 10/3/2012 12:33:56 PM Report
All I know is that out of all the years my kids have been in school I can count 2 teachers that have put in their hours and a solid effort.
My kid developed a serious health condition that I needed to speak to the teacher about - that teacher was continuously "too busy" to talk to me. Come 3pm that parking lot was cleared. So where are they going? What are they doing? If I could have 2 months off in the summer I'd sure as hell put in 50+ hour weeks the rest of the year.
There are lots of teachers out there who enjoy coaching, etc. in extracurricular activities. I don't have a choice, I HAVE to put in tons of extra unpaid hours as a salaried employee just to keep my job and I'm not alone.
I do believe teachers are asking alot, the government are being foolish and the students are being screwed.
I have more education & multiple degrees than many teachers and get paid a little over half their salary - that's common, c'est la vie!
They knew what they were getting into when they started their career path.
I don't argue that the Liberals are destroying the province. I just don't find teachers without fault.
Losing collecting bargaining powers is horrible but they also need to be realistic in their salaries and expectations of their career.
B Boy 10/3/2012 12:35:37 PM Report
Speed - I have my facts straight, but everyone is entitled to an opinion.
Most of what's wrong with the world is related to people being forced to swallow someone else's opinion.
So you want me to lose my opinion and just take yours? You sure sound alot like the Ontario government now.
speed7 10/3/2012 12:36:27 PM Report
tidbit for you lost in space
Your Parents are for the most part responsible for teaching you respect First!.. then teachers while they are in school. You are walking out! What respect does that show as a student then?
B Boy 10/3/2012 12:38:15 PM Report
Speed - didn't the teachers technically walk out on the students' extracurricular activities? Sounds like the students were taught to walk out.
My opinion of teachers is someone skewed because of their perceived high & mighty attitude lately.
speed7 10/3/2012 12:38:26 PM Report
B Boy you have your opinion sure! No problem.
lostinspace 10/3/2012 12:46:11 PM Report
Speed 7- I do not agree with the students walking out and I'll bet there's a bit of peer pressure to join the group. I don't agree with calling them lazy etc. either. Did they walk out because of the sports being cancelled or to support the poor teachers and all their rights being taken away. That is unknown at this point.
The government has to have some control or our country will collapse too! It think teachers better look at what they have and be happy because it isn't going to get any better.
cashcab 10/3/2012 12:47:03 PM Report
I think it's about time kids started to speek there minds again, as they did in the 60's. People have become much to comlacent and have let the government do whatever the hell they want, to whomever they want, whenever they want.
As for kids being lazy and disrespectful, thats not been my experience with most, so it must be the way SPEED7 is treating them!
These are the voters of the future and remember, your kids are going to pic which old age home you go into.
soohawks 10/3/2012 12:48:17 PM Report
speed I am with bboy. I think you must be a teacher or related to one. I just don't agree that the teachers take out their frustration with the government on innocent children. Then to have ads taken out stating they will continue to fight for the kids???? BS. Go after the government and leave the kids alone. as I said before there is now a new bully in our schools it is the teachers!
Number One Son 10/3/2012 12:52:06 PM Report
I was part of walk outs in support of teachers in the 70's. Its all BS, .... students are walking out as an excuse to get a day off. They don't have any concept of the issues or collective bargaining, ... they just want a holiday.
Get you lazy asses back in class, and let everything play out as it may.
Viper2011 10/3/2012 12:57:34 PM Report
Nothing new we did the same thing in the mid to late 70's to protest removal of extracurricular activities. Not only one or two highschools but every public high school in SSM. I don't know or remember if this action was province wide or not but we certainly goot the attention of both the teachers and the Board of Education.
Viper2011 10/3/2012 1:00:25 PM Report
OMG I graduated highschool and still can't spell (goot) lmao sorry "got"
B Boy 10/3/2012 1:02:25 PM Report
Cashcab - I agree, in Ontario we're a culture of apathetic & complacent whiners (a whiner on my opinion is a person who complains without trying to remedy).
Probably half of the students are just trying to get out of class, just like half of the 1960 hippies at demonstrations were there to get laid, high or just hanging on.
The point is, stuff did come ouf the 60's. Wars were shortened, politics influenced. They made noise, got attention and some people listened. Things may have improved today because of it, but in the very least I can't see how we're worse off.
Government and teachers' salaries are funded by our taxes - taxes that are too heavy as it is. Damn right we should have a say. Maybe those kids don't want to pay even higher taxes for even less of a return.
I know personally that there are teachers who want to do extracurriculars but their coworkers are pressuring them and even intimidating them from doing it. The stories my children bring home from what they've heard or been told in class is disappointing.
iLash 10/3/2012 1:06:31 PM Report
Kudos to the students for taking a stand, whatever their reasons are! At least they aren't sitting behind a computer posting comments that no one cares about or will do anything about. No doubt that some are walking because of a day off, but hey there are those kind of people all over the place. If only some adults would stand up and fight our country might improve even more.
nrah85 10/3/2012 1:19:42 PM Report
I am not sure how old you are but my brother and I are part of that "new generation" you refer to and neither one of us is spoiled, disrespectful or lazy. We both have graduated high school and have gone on to be successful contributing members to the Soo and the communities where we currently reside. I do not go round stirring up S&#@ whenever I want nor do any of my friends. I also do not walk out on situations to make them more convenient for me at the time. I believe these students (and all the students who walked out across the province) are not the spoiled, disrespectful and lazy ones they are the ones who assessed the situation and decided to take peaceful action. They have a right to express their thoughts, opinions etc. as a group or individually as long as they do so in a respectful way. They could have acted like the Quebec university students did and cause mass chaos and hysteria on Hwy 17 but the did NOT, they got their point across and did so in a respectful way. The lazy and disrespectful "new generation" kids are the ones that didn't bother to show up to school today (or on most days).
P.S. There are bad seeds in EVERY generation and the biggest problem with the "new generation" is not the kids but the PARENTS who raised them!!!
Sparky11 10/3/2012 1:31:30 PM Report
Do you think teachers want kids not to have extracurricular activities? The government is forcing them to takes steps to stand up for themselves. Do you work for free (extracurricula activities)? The government is telling them that they have to work PD Days but not get paid for them! Yeah sure, who goes to work to not get paid? The teachers contact is being dictated by the government, they don't have a chance to negotiate anything. And now McGreedy is going to do that to the public servants. You think the lines are long now, just wait!
AndyCap 10/3/2012 2:06:47 PM Report
Hey Speed, I think Bboy voiced his opinions very well. I wish I could say the same for your posts. You seem to have a one track mind and are unable to take other people's opinions into consideration to make a sound judgemnt. If you are a teacher then I feel sorry for your students. Ignorance breeds ignorance.
soohawks 10/3/2012 3:03:32 PM Report
Not sure on the accuracy of this but just heard that 75 students were suspended for not returning to class.
PF92 10/3/2012 3:08:18 PM Report
Good job students..If i was in Highschool i would be doing the same.
Congrats! stick it to them!
speed7 10/3/2012 3:53:52 PM Report
Andy Cap I told you before I am not a teacher I know of friends who are. You are the immature one picking on people who merely stick to the facts. Instead you stick to comedy and drama. Go back to your comic books .. real life obviously doesnt affect you. I guess your cushy in your life... let others live then! Grow up!
speed7 10/3/2012 4:24:11 PM Report
All you BULLIES ganging up on people in here havent read the article. It says its a mixed crowed some in suppport of teachers for the walkout and some not. The kids walked out. Your only hurting yourselves. Have a wonderfull day!
soohawks 10/3/2012 4:30:57 PM Report
hey speedo, It is obvious that you and the truth have never met.
crk 10/3/2012 4:48:55 PM Report
LOSERS, every one of them!! Judging by the profane slogans on their signs, they had NO idea what the issues are. There are no photos of the bright, sensible students at CASS; they chose to remain inside the school..... all of the students that were outside and on the HIGHWAY, had NO IDEA OF WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING ON AT ALL!!! AND THE ONLY REASONS THEY WERE OUT THERE WAS TO EITHER SKIP CLASS OR JUST CAUSE TROUBLE!!! LOSERS...
catmom 10/3/2012 5:31:52 PM Report
The students organized this protest after finding out that all extracurricular activities would be cancelled. The students, like the teachers, do not have many effective or visible methods of peacefully showing their displeasure with the Ontario government. The students support the teachers and only want to show the government that their decision to implement Bill 115 was wrong.
_kate_ 10/3/2012 9:37:18 PM Report
These comments are upsetting.
To those of you that chose to tear down and name-call the students who protested- shame on you. I am shocked and appalled that someone could sit down and call a group of KIDS derogatory names. What kind of example is that? You want kids to be thoughtful and respectful citizens that contribute to society? Lead by example! How are those kids supposed to feel?
While yes, I am sure many students relished in the idea of missing class, I am also sure that there were many who felt strongly about protesting. It is impossible to know exactly what those students were thinking, and assuming that they are "lazy", or a group of "losers" wrong.
I am not going to take a side between the government and the teachers, but I think it's terrible that the students are getting caught up in this dispute. They shouldn't be treated like pawns. Way to go students!
speed7 10/3/2012 11:18:48 PM Report
soohawks , it is true that you are out of touch with reality.
Thanks crk and catmom !
I knew it!!
See of those 70 students who walked out only 40 returned back to school after bieng told they may face suspensions. The remainder of students stayed for classes. Not only was this a disruption it also needed policing. Do you realize how irresponsible that was to walk off school property on a highway? If they really wanted to protest bill 115 do in on school property at least. But we all know what the protest was really all about?
fishin4alivin 10/3/2012 11:42:42 PM Report
writers your calling us students lazy, that you know the real reason we walked out! Shame on you! Your generation are a bunch of chickens, the goverment tells you what to do and you go b*t*h*n with your tail between your legs!! We choose not to live that way and were being taught not to take S*I* from your generation, way to go you teachers. If it wasn't for us youngers ones standing up for you where would you be?
speed7 10/4/2012 1:24:12 AM Report
You chose to not live that way? Which way is that? In a steel prison cell maybe ? PHHFFFTT!
speed7 10/4/2012 1:58:58 AM Report
I dont see how teachers asked you to protest on their behalf. So I'm guessing that some of you took matters in your own hands and yes some of you went , some of you didnt. Mixed feelings overall. Students should never be involved in teachers union bargaining issues at all! I know this was not organized by any teaching staff. The 40 or so of you who walked off the property did violate rules. Sorry if you were called lazy but why didnt you return to classes when you were told then? Well?
Why head down the highway with the police on your tail? Are you not going to take s$@*t from cops either? Older generations dont need that kind of representation from you. Knowone is saying you cant stand up for what you beleive in. That wasnt a smart move. And comparing yourselves to the 60's which where about drugs sex hippies and music. Yes it was in protest of the war. Were not in a war now. This is 2012 and you're in school! Your analogy is kind of immature.
JUSTANOTHERNAME 10/4/2012 11:36:57 AM Report
Speed they are still kids so yes they are kinda immature. It may not have been the safest protest by being on highway 17 but they are at least trying to get their voices heard. They are teenagers and yes look up to the previous generations and I am sorry but if you are who they are supposed to be looking up to poor Canada. Give them a little credit they were able to assemble 150 kids peacefully, that's better than most adult run functions.