sumosah 9/7/2012 3:12:49 PM Reportnow they are sure to be drafted next year .....
muf 9/7/2012 3:21:49 PM Reportsumosah.......2 out of 3 already have been drafted !
hockeytime 9/7/2012 3:24:31 PM ReportI understand that you are innocent till proven guity but I think the charged players should still be suspended pending the out come of the situation Maybe the hounds should have offered the victim some wellness counselling also
PF92 9/7/2012 3:43:42 PM ReportSumoah,,, two of them ARE drafted ;)
PF92 9/7/2012 3:44:58 PM ReportHockeytime - they never broke an OHL rule, they didnt do anything league wise, so why would they be suspended?
Its like saying I broke something at home so my teacher should suspend me...........no?
hockeytime 9/7/2012 4:01:39 PM ReportFirst of all why did the team already suspend them from exhibition games and training camp ??
Second People get suspended from there jobs all the time pending the out come of charges
What would you think if it was your daughter?
Hatch 9/7/2012 4:12:15 PM ReportSo you're saying this was your daughter?
If not, then stop being so melodramatic and let the system work as it is intended. If these boys are guilty of said crime, they will be punished and their careers will suffer as well. Quit trying to be judge, jury and prosecutor before the case is heard.
I'm In 9/7/2012 4:50:03 PM ReportRight on Hatch
PipeBomb 9/7/2012 5:13:25 PM ReportEARLY TO MID-50'S!!!!? Those Greyhound boys went Cougar Huntin'!!!!
SipKing 9/7/2012 5:32:11 PM ReportThese 3 sell tickets,and thats what it comes down to, The GM can ill afford to have another brutal year, Wellness program my foot it is one way for the Greyhound owners to gain public support and sell tickets. I WILL NOT BE GOING TO A GREYHOUND GAME UNTIL AFTER THIS IS RESOLVED... Funny I called 5 people and asked if they wanted my Red & White game tickets as well as the Wolves and no takers... hummm I wonder why...
Tee 9/7/2012 5:47:26 PM ReportI also will NOT be attending any games until this is resolved. All women should stand firm and stay away
Hatch 9/7/2012 5:47:48 PM ReportSipKing: Please do give us your slant on why there's no takers for the tickets.
Was it because you called 5 people with the same mindset as you?
Charged = Guilty
Number One Son 9/7/2012 5:50:00 PM ReportI'll take your tickets Sip King, ...
TankGirl 9/7/2012 5:50:20 PM ReportReally? Spreading rumors? In her 50's? Says who?
If you don't know facts ( which you don't unless you are the victim or the accused) don't spread false information.
Why can't everyone reserve judgement until the case is resolved? How do you know the girl in this case is a victim? The players could be victim to false allegations. Who knows? Not anybody posting here that's for sure.
Number One Son 9/7/2012 6:03:39 PM ReportI'll take your tickets Sip King, ...
muf 9/7/2012 6:23:09 PM ReportI`ll take your tickets sipking !
D_Laity 9/7/2012 6:25:37 PM ReportPlaying Junior Hockey is a privledge, not an entitlement.
Either way you slice it, guilty or not. Three guys having intercourse with one woman shows a lack of respect for women and does not exemplify the characteristics that I would want in my players.
Dubas has been talking about changing the culture of the team. This is the perfect opportunity to do so. These guys should be gone, regardless.
geterdun 9/7/2012 6:44:41 PM ReportAs we all know there are different rules for those with money or talents regardless of the crimes committed........oh yes money at work..........they will get off with a slap on the hand........
Hatch 9/7/2012 6:56:49 PM ReportQuote TankGirl
"Why can't everyone reserve judgement until the case is resolved?"
They would have nothing to discuss in their empty little lives.
MartyMudd 9/7/2012 7:47:56 PM ReportGive it a rest. Nobody commenting knows what happened. If you are going to boycott the team because of something you have no information on, you are narrow minded. What if they are innocent? How would you feel if one of them was your son and their name is being wrongfully smeared? If they are guilty, they should be punished with he full extent of the law. Until then, get on with your lives.
right wing 9/7/2012 7:48:49 PM ReportSpyyder and Pipebomb
When I read complete ignorant crude crap such as what you posted it makes me embarrassed that there are members of the male species such as yourself.
I suppose when you have the brain of a paramecium it can't be helped.
Low life red necks...both of you.
right wing 9/7/2012 7:52:53 PM ReportSo they are are all "healed" in ten days.
It's a miracle!
...and the public needs to know this why?
More absolute crap publicity from this hockey club.
Perhaps they could get the miracle worker to help with sexually assaulted women...it takes them years.
right wing 9/7/2012 7:59:18 PM Report"Why can't everyone reserve judgement until the case is resolved? How do you know the girl in this case is a victim? The players could be victim to false allegations. Who knows? Not anybody posting here that's for sure."
TankGirl,
Everybody deserves their day in court.
I'll be a risk taker and run with the odds, sexual assault is the most under-reported crime of all, ask yourself why.
Sexual assault, statistically, is rarely falsely reported.
These are facts.
steve53000 9/7/2012 8:16:30 PM ReportÏ am not a hockey buff but if this were rcmp or local cops they would go on suspension,
maybe,
with pay so give the kids a break till they get there day in court.
right wing 9/7/2012 8:19:46 PM Report1st, they are not "kids", 2nd, they are not "cops, 3rd, your comparison is ridiculous.
Tee 9/7/2012 8:36:14 PM ReportI might not know exactly what happened but I do know that the police had enough evidence and probable cause to charge.
If my son were charged with that crime he would be off that team so fast his head would still be spinning.
Mr E 9/7/2012 8:37:43 PM ReportI believe a report said she was 20 years old. Either way she'll get paid off to drop the charges. Everybody has a price.
Jamie333 9/7/2012 8:54:03 PM ReportI agree 100% with D_Laity and Tee.
But I'll still be at the games.
Snowdon 9/7/2012 9:28:14 PM Report"I'll be a risk taker and run with the odds, sexual assault is the most under-reported crime of all, ask yourself why.
Sexual assault, statistically, is rarely falsely reported.
These are facts. "
None of which has any bearing on an individual case.
Those are statistics to cite in discussing the overall prevalence of sexual assault in society, not in determining the guilt of a specific allegation.
Hatch 9/7/2012 10:28:02 PM ReportQuote Tee
"I might not know exactly what happened but I do know that the police had enough evidence and probable cause to charge.
If my son were charged with that crime he would be off that team so fast his head would still be spinning."
As a parent I hope you're not teaching your son to act in the same manner as you. It would be a shame to pass your prejudgemental additude onto the next generation.
PipeBomb 9/7/2012 11:12:41 PM Reportright wing I am the furthest thing from a red neck...why are you so offended? Was it your mother they ran a train on? Go kiss the Conservative party's butt some more. You're a joke. A complete waste of skin and oxygen. Instead of living on sootoday commenting on every article and acting like you know everything, try getting a job or doing something worthwhile with your pathetic existence.
frauleinbroomhilda 9/7/2012 11:18:49 PM ReportWow! Let's pray that Justice Kristine Bignell tries this case in October. Can't we all just get along!
lavendalilly 9/8/2012 12:32:38 AM ReportI don‘t understand all the name calling, blame games and down right ignorant behavior here. In a way, what is going on between the hockey players, league and all people involved including the victim, frankly is absolutly none of our business. Just because it is a local mishap, it doesnt give anyone the right to toss judgment around like a beanbag.
lavendalilly 9/8/2012 12:38:48 AM Reportand not to mention~ do you really think that all this hostility between complete strangers and the boys involved will change one thing? Absolutly not!! People will read these idiotic comments and all faith within this city for everyone will be tossed onto the same chopping block!! Be nice. Be supportive of one another instead of creating gossip, frustration and rediculous chaos between perfectly good strangers.
fishin4alivin 9/8/2012 1:44:46 AM ReportWe need to pray for all involved, if this were my Daughter or my Sons I'd be devastated. My prayers are for all involved for healing and justice.
Crusty 9/8/2012 8:52:23 AM Reportlast time I checked ... no means no. No doesn't mean "when you and your buddies are done raping me could you post a picture of it?"
they aren't the first grayhounds to think they are above the law, won't be the last.
trade them for what you can get and let the law sort itself out. Protesting the organization doesn't solve anything.
frauleinbroomhilda 9/8/2012 9:00:39 AM ReportWell put Crusty!!!!! They'll ALL have their days in court. It'll be dealt with in the proper manner...not by us. We all tend to be judgmental at times. Shame on all of us:(
Hatch 9/8/2012 9:14:54 AM Report"Quote Crusty"
last time I checked ... no means no. No doesn't mean "when you and your buddies are done raping me could you post a picture of it?"
I guess in this case there's "no" presumption of innocence?(American)
Charged = Guilty
Your legal savy could save this country billions. Good work Crusty.
Crusty 9/8/2012 9:44:26 AM Reportsorry, you're right hatch, they're greyhounds ... they must be innocent.
TankGirl 9/8/2012 10:05:08 AM ReportCrusty - so because they are Greyhounds they are guilty?
You weren't there and neither was I. Do you know anything happened at all? Do you know that something happened and somebody said no? I don't. I doubt you do either.
Nobody is defending the Greyhounds (at least I am not) but, people ARE defending their right to a trial before being deemed guilty.
Tee 9/8/2012 10:31:43 AM ReportI guess the police were prejudgemental too!!
Hatch 9/8/2012 10:32:00 AM ReportYou're right Crusty, they must be guilty. They're Greyhounds.
You're a legal genius Crusty. With you around we can now circumvent our justice system. Again, keep up the good work.
Hatch 9/8/2012 10:36:19 AM ReportQuote Tee
"I guess the police were prejudgemental too!!"
You're right Tee. Every person ever charged with a crime has been guilty.
Defense lawyers are a mere formality.
More legal genius in our midst.
Tee 9/8/2012 10:38:07 AM ReportIf you were a young woman and your boss was charged with sexual assault would you want him to continue to be your boss or to be suspended pending the outcome.
frauleinbroomhilda 9/8/2012 10:38:23 AM ReportOuch!
TankGirl 9/8/2012 10:43:48 AM ReportTee - I prefer he be treated innocent until proven guilty. I am not ok with ruining anybodies life or career over accusations and a charge.
The charges here are not to be taken lightly however, they are charges, not convictions.
Hatch 9/8/2012 10:44:08 AM ReportGlad you used the word "outcome" Tee.
It finally indicates you have an understanding that there's a "process" in place that we all need to let unfold before we pass judgement or condemn.
Hatch 9/8/2012 10:47:02 AM ReportQuote TankGirl
"Tee - I prefer he be treated innocent until proven guilty. I am not ok with ruining anybodies life or career over accusations and a charge.
The charges here are not to be taken lightly however, they are charges, not convictions"
Very well said TankGirl
Tee 9/8/2012 11:01:12 AM ReportSo answer my question would you want your boss to continue you be your supervisor if he had those charges or worse ones....
right wing 9/8/2012 11:04:24 AM ReportPipeBomb
I hit it on the nail with the red neck comment and the low life was spot on, right.
So you know of me, good, keep reading and perhaps one day you can elevate from the gutter with your thoughts.
You should read some Freud, you would be interested as you seem to have a "mother" complex.
TankGirl 9/8/2012 11:10:04 AM ReportTee - I did answer your question.
"I prefer he (my boss) be treated innocent until proven guilty. I am not ok with ruining anybodies life or career over accusations and a charge."
Which means I would continue to work with that boss until such time he was proven guilty.
right wing 9/8/2012 11:15:58 AM ReportJustice Bignell would only sit on this case if there is a guilty plea prior to this case going to Superior Court.
Sexual Assault is an indictable offence and if it goes to full trial it will be held in the Superior Court of Canada.
Judge Bignell is a Provincial judge and a dam good one.
I wish she sat on the Superior court as this country is badly in need of more female judges.
right wing 9/8/2012 11:17:32 AM ReportTankGirl
You are either made of stone or the most forgiving person I have ever met.
I'm going to go with reality though and conclude that you have never seen a sexual assault victim up close and personal.
Tee 9/8/2012 11:18:07 AM ReportI would think most people would not feel that way....like a corrupt cop still walking the beat.
Have a great day I have to go for now
right wing 9/8/2012 11:23:14 AM ReportSomebody on here made a comment that the victim could be "bought off", no such thing can happen as the victim has no power of dropping charges once the accusation has been made, police have laid the charges and the crown has viewed it as a viable case.
There will be a preliminary hearing of the evidence in this case on the provincial level and once the evidence is look at and it is deemed there is enough to reasonably conclude that a finding of guilt is possible, it moves to the Superior Court.
TankGirl 9/8/2012 11:26:09 AM Reportright wing - I am not made of stone nor am I forgiving to those who have committed a crime.
In this case, I don't know what happened, who of the 3 if any are guilty of these charges and I choose to support our justice system and let it do its job before passing judgement on anyone. Which is what everyone should do.
Can you show me where it states or how you know what cases Bignell will or won't sit on? How you know there is a guilty plea and if there are 1,2 or 3 guilty pleas? I'm guessing you don't know for a fact and that is my point.
A bunch of armchair critics know so much and yet, nothing at all.
Dictionary 9/8/2012 11:33:09 AM Reportinnocent until proven guilty. put away your pitchforks you bunch of mob driven hillbillies.
right wing 9/8/2012 11:40:40 AM ReportTankGirl
Re-read my post.
I did not say that I knew for sure whether or not Bignell would sit on that one or not, I was using her as an example as her name had been brought up.
It is how the court system works.
Bignell is a provincial court judge.
Do some reading on indictable offenses and how they work, you'll then understand it.
frauleinbroomhilda 9/8/2012 1:22:48 PM ReportGoogle into the archives and read the Soo Greyhound Jarrett Reid trial or the months he spent in jail? Then it happened again in Halifax? He went there to play hockey. Hmmmmm...Surmising unfortunately is part of our nature. We really have to let judicial system sort this one out and hopefully they won't be a diehard Hockey Fan.
martinigyrle 9/8/2012 2:03:48 PM ReportI am a survivor of rape and I am appalled at the mentallity of some people's comments that I am reading. Each of you who feel that these guy's should be able to contiue to play untill the court case comes up should really think it over. For the police to have laid charges there had to be physical evidence against them and I know this for a fact due to living through this everyday. If just one of you had to go through the humiliation of being at the hospital and going through a rape screening for phisical evidence you would really look at things differently. It is very sad that these players get to continue playing while the victim is going through physical, emotional and mental hell and from experiece I know that just ten or so days of councelling is not going to cure her as they claim it did for the Hounds. She has years of hell ahead of her, so please stop and think of the victim. No woman would choose to put herself and her family through such pain unless she is fighting for the truth and other victims.
frauleinbroomhilda 9/8/2012 2:42:38 PM ReportI believe this whole heartedly. Sorry for your pain. :(
Dictionary 9/8/2012 2:45:34 PM ReportPROCEEDINGS IN CRIMINAL AND PENAL MATTERS.
11. Any person charged with an offence has the right
(a) to be informed without unreasonable delay of the specific offence;
(b) to be tried within a reasonable time;
(c) not to be compelled to be a witness in proceedings against that person in respect of the offence;
(d) to be presumed innocent until proven guilty according to law in a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal;
(e) not to be denied reasonable bail without just cause;
(f) except in the case of an offence under military law tried before a military tribunal, to the benefit of trial by jury where the maximum punishment for the offence is imprisonment for five years or a more severe punishment;
(g) not to be found guilty on account of any act or omission unless, at the time of the act or omission, it constituted an offence under Canadian or international law or was criminal according to the general principles of law recognized by the community of nations;
(h) if finally acquitted of the offence, not to be tried for it again and, if finally found guilty and punished for the offence, not to be tried or punished for it again; and
(i) if found guilty of the offence and if the punishment for the offence has been varied between the time of commission and the time of sentencing, to the benefit of the lesser punishment.
http://www.efc.ca/pages/law/charter/charter.text.html
martinigyrle 9/8/2012 2:46:53 PM ReportFor myself and other victimes I thank you.
PipeBomb 9/8/2012 2:57:00 PM Reportright wing...I only know of you because your BS is posted all over this website. You act like you're superior to every member here and only your opinion matters. Typical RIGHT WING attitude right there. You call me a red neck and a low life? Yet you come on here preaching and expect people to just accept your views. Who's the low life now? You keep on trucking soldier. And please PLEASE continue to feel as you are above me because you read Fraud...or whatever you call it. A mother complex? You read way too far into things pal. Do us all a favor and NEVER POST HERE AGAIN, you Conservative worshiping, better than everyone, all holy grail of sootoday.com, idiotic, typical SSM know it all. Keep being that Legend in your own mind, as long as you sleep ok at night and believe you're really something. But the only thing you really are is a jack@$$.
martinigyrle 9/8/2012 3:18:10 PM ReportMy thanks is for frauleinbroomhilda not for Dictionary and by the way Dictionary do you think 2 to 3 years is reasonable time to be waiting to be tried?
TankGirl 9/8/2012 3:27:54 PM ReportTime to be tried is not the fault of anyone but the system itself.
A gruesome murder took place two years ago right here in the Sault and the trial has just started this month. Not to mention some of those charged are out on bail.
Sorry for your tragic circumstances but you can't force people to go against what is right. What is right is to allow the process to take its course and as per Dictionary's post - innocent until proven guilty.
right wing 9/8/2012 4:28:49 PM ReportTankGirl
I was correct on the made of stone.
You entirely miss the point of what martinigyrle, myself and others have been trying to make on here regarding THE ATTITUDE of folks towards the victim versus the accused.
You and others just don't get it, I hope and pray that you never have to through a personal experience.
right wing 9/8/2012 4:38:48 PM ReportHahahahahaha...you have to do better than that StinkBomb.
Better than you have tried to insult me and failed.
Yes I called you a red neck and a low life as only one of such calibre would have posted the following:
PipeBomb 9/7/2012 5:13:25 PM Report
EARLY TO MID-50'S!!!!? Those Greyhound boys went Cougar Huntin'!!!!
So ya paramecium, why don't you do something useful like take the week old garbage out to the dumpster at your geared-to-income housing.
frauleinbroomhilda 9/8/2012 4:55:33 PM ReportAs stated earlier...Sexual Assaults are hardly ever reported. It's always been a DIRTY word.Everywhere...not just in the Soo. It's not dirty and it really does happen. Even unwanted grabbing or unwanted touching. If a person, male or female is not comfortble and they say stop then stop or it is sexual assault! If the accused was a terrible person and repeat offender they would be tried and convicted, however...in this specific situation, three hockey players with maybe a career in NHL are accused. Who knows, it could be a few months before this court case ends. It's just so devastating when you think that this young lady who went through this tramatic experience and has to go through it again with more MEDIA and all of us fighting on Sootoday? I like to voice my opinion too but sometimes we have to learn when to give up fighting. Everyone thinks differently and it's OK as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else. Thanks :)
TankGirl 9/8/2012 4:59:04 PM Reportright wing - I am not missing a thing here. You on the other hand....
Did I say anything negative or derogatory about the alleged victim in this case? No. Did I say anything negative or deragatory about the accused in this case? No. Did I defend the process we all belong to that is our justice system and the fact that everyone is innocent until proven guilty? Hell yes. Part of that process includes bail and does not include a mandatory punishment such as suspension or firing prior to conviction.
Pretty simple really.
I am completely impartial until it goes to trial and convictions are handed out. Or not. Doesn't mean I think this is a lie and doesn't mean I think this didn't happen. It means I have no clue what did or didn't happen and neither do any of you. Until then, there isn't much left to say other than rumors, lies and opinions. Nothing more.
frauleinbroomhilda 9/8/2012 5:04:15 PM ReportEasy you two! :(
right wing 9/8/2012 5:04:54 PM Reportfrauleinbroomhilda
Fist I have to say that's quite the name you have there.
Three or four months would be a dream.
The time this case takes to get through the courts is what I will be watching, it will tell a story.
Most sexual assault cases take two to five years to make it through the justice system.
Aside from many other problems with such a long time line, the victims of these crimes cannot complete the final leg of their journey of healing until the court case if over.
When you become involved in a criminal court case you quickly learn that the accused in many aspects has more rights than the victim.
TankGirl 9/8/2012 5:11:31 PM ReportSadly, the accused have more rights because of a history of false allegations in all types of crime.
Don't get my stance wrong, I feel for the woman in this case that must battle through this. But, I also can't take her side fully and condemn those charged without them having their day in court. They do still have rights.
right wing 9/8/2012 5:27:20 PM Report"How do you know the girl in this case is a victim? The players could be victim to false allegations."
TankGirl
How do I know the girl in this case is a victim?
There were charges laid that's how and I have seen the process of this procedure first hand and when you do you understand why false sexual assault charges are rarely laid.
Nobody would want to go through that process.
Yes you have been for the most part impartial but when you throw the two statements together as you have above, it kinda stinks of a slant against the victim in my view point.
As I stated I'll go with the odds that there is legitimacy to these charges and although I completely agree everybody is innocent until proven guilty my support will always lean towards the VICTIMS of sexual assault.
I came on strong on this issue for several reasons, crude remarks made towards women on this issue, ignorance about sexual assault and the victims of it, and what were obvious attempts at damage control and sympathy garnering by the Soo Greyhounds through the media.
Who cares if these three had some sort of counseling, and why did the Hounds have to bring this public?
right wing 9/8/2012 5:30:03 PM Report"TankGirl 9/8/2012 5:11:31 PM Report
Sadly, the accused have more rights because of a history of false allegations in all types of crime."
TankGirl
Well that's not the entire reason accused have rights but...YES false allegations do happen but sexual assault has the lowest of false allegations of ALL and is the most under-reported.
What does that tell you.
TankGirl 9/8/2012 5:45:54 PM Reportright wing - I used the example of false allegations against the 3 accused to drive my point that we don't know what happened until it gets to court.
I won't continue to play what ifs beyond this, what if one of those 3 isn't guilty? Or two of the three? That's what the trial is for. Until then, I don't know and neither does anyone else.
right wing 9/8/2012 6:04:47 PM ReportTankGirl
O.K., I'll try this another way.
Would have been fine on it's own but as I said you asked "How do you know the girl in this case is a victim?"
We know there are accused as they were charged and as you clearly state they deserve their day in court.
Does the victim not deserve to viewed as a victim also until it is proven otherwise, does she not garner some degree of belief as well?
TankGirl 9/8/2012 6:15:11 PM ReportOf course she does. I never said she didn't. In fact I just said "I can't take her side and fully condemn the accused because they rightfully deserve their day in court"
If they are found guilty, I will have more to say. Until then, what do I or anywhere really know? We know there is a victim and there are accused. That's it. That's what trials are for and last time I checked, the Sootoday comments section isn't a court room. :). (sorry, trying to be funny with tht last comment, not rude)
TankGirl 9/8/2012 6:21:07 PM ReportIf anyone openly comments taking her side they are then saying all three are guilty. You can't do that knowing they have a right to trial first.
Once convicted, guilty as charged and everyone can have a frenzy on publicly ripping them and their what could have been careers to shreds.
To say they are innocent until proven guilty is a different point altogether because it is defending their rights, not their position at trial. (assuming they plead innocent).
TankGirl 9/8/2012 6:23:49 PM ReportOr not guilty. Lol.
On that note. I'm done. I've said the same things in different words too much today. Time to have some fun. It's Saturday after all. Goodnight all! Been fun rw. ;)
Working Man 9/8/2012 7:55:05 PM ReportTankgirl,
You're right, They do have the right to pay lawyers to get them off (no pun intended). But, it will cost them! Or their parents!! Even if they were deemed innocent in court that doesn't mean that they are. You know that.
To be suspected of a crime such as this, the boys must've had some questional behaviour towards the woman in the first place. DUH... Nobody would charge 3 men for absolutely nothing.
PipeBomb 9/8/2012 9:26:19 PM Reportright wing...I make more money in a day than you make in a whole week. You're too poor to pay attention. You're laughable, everyone on here thinks you are a complete idiot. Which you are by the way. Like I said, keep believing you really are something and your views matter, because you are the worst this city has to offer, lower than the worms, more idiotic than a retarded monkey.
Hatch 9/8/2012 9:28:40 PM ReportQuote Working Man
"Even if they were deemed innocent in court that doesn't mean that they are. You know that."
So what you're trying to say is, even if they're deemed innocent, they just might be that. Innocent.
It's not enough that some become impatient waiting for the courts ruling, we now need someone twisting one potential outcome.
steve53000 9/9/2012 7:27:34 AM Reportwell i aint very smart but maybe edumication does not suit some people well
as i can see from a few here
right wing 9/9/2012 10:19:20 AM ReportMore idiotic than a retarded monkey.
Now now, no need to bring your offspring into this.
houston 9/9/2012 11:03:02 AM ReportWill Fritsch and Cousins be able to cross the boarder with these charges? I would think not. If these charges stand, all three can kiss there hockey careers good buy. I would think Dubas is talking trade with other teams, but he is in a weak bargaining position.
frauleinbroomhilda 9/9/2012 11:04:01 AM ReportYou people are too too funny!!! :)
nusue 9/10/2012 1:17:25 PM ReportWhat the heck does the age of the woman have to do with anything anyway. Nobody knows the circumstances within the charges, so who is to say she was not influenced by something that prompted her to make a bad decision. A decision that she perhaps realized was the wrong one..and tried to change it, only too late. I realize i am speculating, but this is just one scenerio that could have happened. Just because someone is middle aged, does not mean that they don't make the wrong choices sometimes finding themselves in dangerous situations.
SooToday.com received the following statement today from Soo Greyhounds Hockey Club General Manager, Kyle Dubas.
