Grace 5/22/2013 6:16:29 AM Report
Grace 5/21/2013 9:24:04 PM Report
What's the difference?
Grump 5/21/2013 9:31:00 PM Report
Ethics my dear ethics. lol
flyhawk25 5/21/2013 9:32:46 PM Report
Our side has brains and prehensile thumbs.
Your side is still evolving.Slowly it would appear.
Grump 5/22/2013 7:25:02 AM Report
Grace good morning to you and all the gang. The news this am said that it's business as usual in the Senate yesterday. Conservatives putting out no answers and stone walling any requests for change. Amusing because last week they were accusing the Liberals of blocking reform changes. You and rw had better get some more help because Harper is busy digging himself a deeper hole every day. By the way Duffy has confessed that Harper promised him a soft landing. I believe that is called aiding and abetting. Have a great day all.
Grump 5/22/2013 7:28:11 AM Report
Grace on sober second thought I guess they don't consider ripping off the public a crime. So they didn't commit a crime????? LMAO
Grace 5/22/2013 7:28:51 AM Report
Chinese miners allowed to come to B.C., judge rules
Neo-con or neo-lib decision?
A federal judge will not grant an injunction to stop Chinese workers from coming to Canada to work at a new coal mine in northern B.C., because the company and workers followed all the necessary rules.
The ruling means more than 200 Chinese mine workers who were hired to do specialized work at the underground mine in Tumbler Ridge will be able to come to Canada on temporary work permits....
Grump 5/22/2013 7:30:59 AM Report
Sheesh Grace maybe even rw's stomach can't handle this kind of crap.
Grace 5/22/2013 7:32:54 AM Report
Grump....If it was possible to get an impartial audit of the entire senate then we may have some answers.
I'm sure senators on both sides have a few skeletons in their closets.
On a side note..you and As usual gonna play nice today?
Yesterday was pretty ugly.
Grump 5/22/2013 7:36:42 AM Report
Grace ,How many companies were bringing in semi skilled workers before Harper took over? Well I have to go. Goodnight Gracie.
Grace 5/22/2013 7:38:30 AM Report
As a person that from what I understand is in the construction field I would have thought that the ruling will at some point have an adverse effect on your line of work.
I just want to know if the judge's decision in your opinion is neo-con or a neo-lib?
I think RW is made of sterner stuff than you give him credit for!
Grace 5/22/2013 7:41:27 AM Report
Grump...What would Justin do?
flyhawk25 5/22/2013 7:54:07 AM Report
Grace...it is neither.It is a decision based on the current law.
The question is - which party crafted the law?
theprotector 5/22/2013 7:55:38 AM Report
bottom line, harper knew, it is a criminal offence, charges should be laid. Breach of public trust, fraud over so on and so on.
You cant simply say "well if they looked at everyone in the senate" come on your not 9 years old. Cases are delt with on a case by case basis and this govenment has many cases. It is now a matter of how well they insolated harper from his decesion to pay for duffy.
Mr. Poster 5/22/2013 8:02:36 AM Report
What does DUFFY know that accords him so much consideration from the CONS ???
Grace 5/22/2013 8:03:29 AM Report
Could you if you have the time..
post the legislation you have mentioned.
Remember that the judge interpreted said legislation.
Grace 5/22/2013 8:04:22 AM Report
theprotector 5/22/2013 8:24:07 AM Report
dont have too, the rcmp will
Grace 5/22/2013 8:38:15 AM Report
Gee...you sounded so positive before?
Now you are gonna see what the RCMP has to say. Are they even investigating it or is this an internal senate investigation?
Snobank 5/22/2013 8:42:37 AM Report
Joseph Corbiere has been writing some very entertaining columns lately. Well worth the visit to his site.
flyhawk25 5/22/2013 8:47:21 AM Report
Grace...sorry no time. On the way out the door.
Perhaps one of your neo-con cohort can Google it.
Grace 5/22/2013 9:00:37 AM Report
Have a great day fly!
Guess I'll have to wait to see why the neo-lib judge ruled against Canadian workers.
theprotector 5/22/2013 9:21:18 AM Report
my understanding is the rcmp has had a file on this for over the past year.
T-rat 5/22/2013 10:09:56 AM Report
At one point yesterday I had decided that enough was enough. I was giving up on this site. The constant blathering, finger pointing, neo this, neo that, and repetitive grade 5 schoolyard level taunts were getting to be too much.
Then a ray of hope!! Along comes Kennedy919 later in the day with refreshing, unbiased, non-partisan, mature commentary and observations about governments in general. And this, in turn, spawned similar comments from others. There's hope after all!!
And recent events in Ottawa and Queen's Park are showing that Canadians actually do care, and are taking their time to voice their opinions, particularly their obvious disgust with the antics of politics. And knowing that their political futures could be in peril, politicians are listening. Again, there's hope after all. Now, if we could only harness this newly-found empowerment.
jackie88 5/22/2013 10:20:39 AM Report
I dont know how a group of supposidly smart senators and politicians can act so stupid all of a sudden.they must think all Canadians are stupid. If you or I falsified expense claims against our employer and got caught we would be arrested and charged with FRAUD or theft over $5000.00. Are senators above the law , are they holier than thou ??? All of a sudden harper is playing Dumb ,and his chief of staff is dumber??? I dont think so . Duffy walks around like an arrogant thief and the conservatives protect him. If the goverment really wants to cut expenses why dont they abolish the senate and get rid of all the plum rewards workers/supporters got . I would suggest to Brian Hayes that he should take this message back to the PM or face eating it at the next election.If u believe Duffy and his colleagues committed Fraud send this message on to all u know and let canadians be heard and the goverment be forced to do what is RIGHT
mallet 5/22/2013 10:36:58 AM Report
As a conservative I am personally appalled at the behaviour of both the government and the senate, having said that I still support the conservatives. Why you may ask, well basically because the others are no better, and have done exactly the same things themselves in the past, and I will give harper time to clean up his act over the next couple of years. As for duffy and wallin they should both be chucked out of the senate and face whatever charges are warranted.
On a similar subject the result of the ndp supporting the liberals in ontario is going to cost us (taxpayers) only an extra billion $'s, cheap at half the price to stop an election I suppose and in a years time when the next budget is due I wonder how much it will cost then???
T-rat 5/22/2013 11:00:12 AM Report
And more and more constructive commentary! Can this possibly be contagious? Is there no end to this wonderful and new-found sanity? One can only hope.
undecided 5/22/2013 11:03:50 AM Report
Like how the conservatives love to shift the focus back to the Liberals .Nevermind fraud being a jailable offence . Grace another reason for JT getting the young people to vote . The court ruling allowing the Chinese to take their jobs at a lower wage.This has to change.
wife 5/22/2013 11:07:31 AM Report
Too all you arm chair sleuths
If you owed your boss $90,000.00 and a close Friend paid the debt for you would you tell every one you work with?
Or would you start to quietly pay your Friend back in monthly payments.
You folks seem to have things backwards. Mr. Duffy should be investigated for where the money went adding up to $90,000.00 not the fact that someone paid his debt.
All the time being wasted on this could be well spent in changing the criminal code to put sex offenders, Pedophiles,wife beaters,husband beaters,murderers and drug dealers in jail for a long time.
Did any of you see silly Trudeau standing and hollering about Duffy yesterday? What a silly person he is.
undecided 5/22/2013 11:07:57 AM Report
As long as the provincal conservates have the lame duck Hudak leading an election would only have the same result or possibly a Liberal majority as people learned their lesson on vote splitting.So why waste money on an election becuse their could be public backlash at an unnessary election
undecided 5/22/2013 11:12:13 AM Report
another defllection Why not release everyone in jail for fraud and make room for the rapists and child molestors and never investigate fraud again focusing on the fore mentioned.
Wife you make me laugh at your anology
Bill_the_Cat 5/22/2013 11:13:20 AM Report
Now if we had that elected Senate with powers of recall (as per the CPC platform) we could get rid of these bums.
Someone needs to keep holding the government's feet to the fire: on this and on the temp worker fiasco.
theprotector 5/22/2013 11:18:18 AM Report
wife, that was so incredibly short sighted of you. Of course they know where the money went...remember they did an audit? And to pay 90 000 to someone that a) you dont personally know b) use legal services attached to the pmo to draft aggreement c) someone had to direct the fall guy to execute this plan for the fatman duffy d) it is atypical of a criminal to state their anger at something like this, however it is clear from fatboy harper his anger is not at what happened with the money but the fact his alterboys got caught after being told what to do by their god.
As Usual 5/22/2013 11:24:46 AM Report
Hi theprotector. You sound eerily the same as two other people on this site.
cathyh 5/22/2013 11:32:44 AM Report
theprotector: I agree totally with you. Aside from the criminal behavior of everyone involved from the pm on, I am totally offended that these clowns insult all of our intelligence (Canadians).
Grump 5/22/2013 11:35:21 AM Report
Grace the temporary workers legislation was instituted by the Harper Government. Even if the Judge was biased one way or the other he has to uphold the law as it now stands. There is no Neo-Lib about it, it belongs to Harper who put it in place. The way he spends the Chinese likely own him by now. Mallet I don't believe that Harper has several years to clean things up. If he doesn't get back here, open up and come clean I suspect he will be finished, likely by his own people who may go to the G.G. or simply walk across the floor. The Senate and Harper are not getting the message but the MPs sure are.
Bill_the_Cat 5/22/2013 11:37:37 AM Report
grump: well said. Right on the money.
As Usual 5/22/2013 11:43:35 AM Report
If any senator has broken the law, any party, they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. They aren't and shouldn't be above the law.
Is politics being played by all parties? Yes. Are you really surprised? This is about power, keeping it or attaining it, not about saving the taxpayer money.
However, I refuse to be judge, jury and executioner. I'll leave that to others.
wife 5/22/2013 11:54:57 AM Report
The Protector (of what?)
If you paid attention you would know that the two men are long time Friends.
As far as changing the Senate the Constitution would have to be opened and changed. I believe you have to have the consent of 7 Provinces with 70% of the population to do anything about changing the Constitution. Without a change in the Constitution nothing can be done. I believe it is on the list of the Supreme Court and you know how long that can take before a decision is made.
Pierre Trudeau and his Liberals made sure it would be almost impossible to change anything. Correct me if I am wrong.Just Google it to find out.
theprotector 5/22/2013 11:59:39 AM Report
They are not long time friends...they know each other, however that is because of the media circles. Like the old saying goes never lend a friend money if you want to get paid back.
and silly me...I forgot...if you google something and keep looking for the answer that supports your opinion....it must be true!
As Usual 5/22/2013 12:07:17 PM Report
I just wanted to say hello to my good friend everson also known as goldie also known as theprotector, also known as _________________ .
Please, just pick one and stick with it. You don't need yourself to back yourself up. That's just weird.
Grace 5/22/2013 12:18:43 PM Report
Do you see that happening closer to home with Essar?
theprotector 5/22/2013 12:52:33 PM Report
as usual your wife, I mean your sister is calling you...I have no idea who they are however they seem to be able to keep your simple mind occupied
As Usual 5/22/2013 12:59:53 PM Report
Okay. I'm surprised you don't know who 'they' are. The 'two' of you (everson and theprotector) have conversed on here regularly.
skipper dave 5/22/2013 1:21:18 PM Report
Good afternoon Sweet Soo!
Wishful thinking - Harper free Day on this Blog!
- As Usual free Day!
- Beiber could go to heaven today.
But then again I might have to believe in the power of prayer.
Red Ranger, when is the house BBQ coming up?
Grump 5/22/2013 1:26:21 PM Report
Wife if what you say is true then Harper is a liar because he promised to make changes to the Senate a number of times now and hasn't. As a matter of fact he has created the climate of entitlement currently rampaging through the Senate. Wife which is it?
cathyh 5/22/2013 1:35:56 PM Report
I don't understand the Harper gov'ts rational behind the foreign worker bill. It takes away work from Canadians, it puts less money in gov't coffers because 15% less pay means less payroll taxes. Historically people who work in a foreign land send most of their money to family at home so they don't spend it in Canada. We, the taxpayer have to fund EI for the unemployed and welfare when EI runs out. Those are just a couple of points, so, why is the gov't sticking it to their own citizens?
Grump 5/22/2013 1:38:43 PM Report
Grace I hate to see what is happening as those are Sault workers and families. That said a good chunk of this can be laid at the feet of 2251. They keep electing the biggest mouths not the biggest brains. They let Essar bleed them dry fighting stupid grievances in Court. They created a atmosphere to protect drunks, lazy bums and trouble makers while doing nothing for good workers. This is what brings it around to what they now have.
Grump 5/22/2013 1:44:43 PM Report
Good afternoon Skipper. Remember the Good Lord Giveth and the Good Lord Taketh away. In these cases he isn't taking enough away fast enough. lol.
theprotector 5/22/2013 2:27:29 PM Report
as usual...go take a dump and clear your head, then we can have a talk
Mr. Poster 5/22/2013 2:43:32 PM Report
This room has become SOCIAL ROOM number 2.
redranger 5/22/2013 3:21:07 PM Report
I hope this finds you in good health.
I don't have a confirmed date on the BBQ in June. I missed today's meeting due to a medical appt. I will get the date from Doug tomorrow. It will be great to see you and your wife there. Maybe you could bring Grump along with you.
Some of the folks on here with their incessant blather remind me of the recovery program for those who talk too much. It is called onandon anon
skipper dave 5/22/2013 3:39:42 PM Report
Thanks for the info Redranger. Spent a rather interesting day at the Barn (sah) An anonymous Dr. who does not know how to treat women, managed to hit my wife's every hot button. I had one very pissed spouse who had been shut down and rather quickly by an old fashioned doctor whose been trained to have his ass wiped from his momma on and obviously thought my wife's opinion stood for not. She is not pretty when pissed. So collectively they are better and my temp of 103.8 has come down. When I'm feverish I hallucinate a lot and my step kids are thinking of selling popcorn while they watch.
cathyh 5/22/2013 4:20:33 PM Report
wow Skipper Dave, that's how I feel about Harper and his pack. My temp. will come down when they are all found to be in contempt of the Canadian public.
Grump 5/22/2013 4:40:39 PM Report
Wow Skipper Your wife sounds like mine, she is even worse than me about not suffering fools easily. Found the best thing to do is step back and let her go. That said chum hope you are doing better. Take good care of that gal, she sounds like a good one and by the way don't PO her. lol