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irishfey 6/8/2014 7:08:28 AM Report

Morning Folks... Time to really put the thinking caps on as the Election is only a few days away.. Is the first year that I'm stumped of who to vote for!.. I did hear Hudak say that if he didn't follow through with his promise to do with what he said, that he would step down... never heard one say that before..... Later.. Have great day,,,,
BBBA 6/8/2014 7:11:10 AM Report

Written in the Sault Star on Sat May 31, 2014, the headline reads "Isn't it about time we stand up for men's rights?" by Michael Coren. I am stunned that a woman was assaulted for expressing her action at an educational institution. It was written that there is a reward to bring the attacker to justice and it is not known if the attack was political or not. The writer reveals that there is "evidence of a campaign to discredit men and a legal and sociological campaign to remove their rights as husbands and partners and as fathers". The writer goes on to reveal a trend in all the stories, such as "The marriage falls apart, nobody's fault, she gets a lawyer and suddenly alleges that she's been abused, the man has to leave the home, has hardly any rights and cant see the kids. They divorce, he has to pay a lot of money in support even thought she is with another man and doing very well financially. He now lives in a basement apartment". Is this a common trait, I ask?
soowat 6/8/2014 7:31:45 AM Report

BBBA

Yes!
irishfey 6/8/2014 7:41:24 AM Report

BBBA.... Sometimes Men do the the rotten end of the deal,, it's not always the Mans fault and people should know this!.. I know a few honest and faithful Men that have gotten the " shaft" from a cheating and even abuseive Wife!.....
Jimssm 6/8/2014 7:53:16 AM Report

I don't think there's anything in the law that specifies "Man' or 'Woman' when it comes to a divorce.
The high income spouse pays support for a fixed amount of time to the low income spouse. Whoever has the kids gets child support also.

No one wins anyways.


Coren is Sun News... enough said.
Javaman 6/8/2014 8:13:23 AM Report

If the Liberals get in....more of the same...and we know what we are getting.

If the Conservatives get in...they will claim the Liberals left the province in a worse mess than they thought and therefore they will not be able to keep a lot of their promises. They will however proceed to fire workers and gut unions.

If the NDP get in...they will be shocked they won and huddle in the corner tying to decide to whom they will hand out money.
Just Curious 6/8/2014 8:25:03 AM Report

Saw a poll on the news last night that has the PCs running 3rd at the moment.. This election is getting too close to call. This time I'm voting for the party, not the candidate in the riding...
flyhawk25 6/8/2014 8:41:42 AM Report

Javaman...I agree.
Just Curious 6/8/2014 9:23:30 AM Report

Personally, I don't think the NDP could possibly waste any more money than the Liberals have since McGuilty and Wynne. Which ever party gets in is going to be faced with such a deficit that there just won't be any to throw away. Nobody is going to get a majority which is a good thing. At least they won't be able to just run over everybody and do whatever they want like Harper is doing federally..
redranger 6/8/2014 9:58:44 AM Report


Fred was in the fertilized egg business. He had several hundred young 'pullets,' and ten roosters to fertilize the eggs.
He kept records, and any rooster not performing went into the soup pot and was replaced.
This took a lot of time, so he bought some tiny bells and attached them to his roosters.
Each bell had a different tone, so he could tell from a distance, which rooster was performing.
Now, he could sit on the porch and fill out an efficiency report by just listening to the bells.
Fred's favorite rooster, old Butch, was a very fine specimen, but this morning he noticed old Butch's bell hadn't rung at all!
When he went to investigate, he saw the other roosters were busy chasing pullets, bells-a-ringing, but the pullets, hearing the roosters coming, would run for cover.
To Fred's amazement, old Butch had his bell in his beak, so it couldn't ring.
He'd sneak up on a pullet, do his job and walk on to the next one.
Fred was so proud of old Butch, he entered him in the Brisbane City Show and he became an overnight sensation among the judges.
The result was the judges not only awarded old Butch the "No Bell Piece Prize," but they also awarded him the "Pulletsurprise" as well.
Clearly old Butch was a politician in the making. Who else but a politician could figure out how to win two of the most coveted awards on our planet by being the best at sneaking up on the unsuspecting populace and screwing them when they weren't paying attention.
Vote carefully in the next election, you can’t always hear the bells.
Bobby Nerves 6/8/2014 10:03:33 AM Report

Great advice redranger.

As it's said, the politician will convince you he's Mickey Mouse, and you'll forget that en reality he's a rat.
Bobby Nerves 6/8/2014 10:13:30 AM Report


The options are clear and you have two, one is cut government expenditures, save money, balance budget. Of course will be some job cuts, some wars with unions, more part time jobs, less housing, less social programs, and the leader will have to find his smartphone and double check what the heck is that north everyone is talking about.

The other is, your service will continue as usual, nurses, firefighters, teachers and public works will be there as always. The economy will grow and jobs will be there as always.

Mallet, you can vote conservatives and Hudak will assign one eBike with a snow plow to clean the highway from Sault Ste. Marie till Wawa.

That's of course for the time he can find the North in his Ontario map.

RMAOFL
flyhawk25 6/8/2014 10:39:59 AM Report

The loneliest person in Ontario is not the Maytag repairman.
It is any candidate for the Tories running north of Barrie.
Girlie128 6/8/2014 10:54:42 AM Report

No matter what...we are going to have a deficit. Sometimes our provincial books get balanced, sometimes they don't.

I'm going to look to a party who can give me the best bang for my buck. If my tax dollars are used for health care, education and fixing roads...I'm cool with that. If the MPPs get a nice fat raise...not so cool.

Does anyone think that there will be no cost to Hudak cutting 100,000 good paying jobs? Think of severance pays and pension bridging.

Give me arts and sports in high schools, lower university/college tuition rates, quality care for our seniors, roads that won't kill my car...there must be someone out there who thinks these things are important to our province.

Teachers, government employees, social assistant recipients and pensioners are not bankrupting our province. Think long and hard about where your money goes before you vote for who is holding your wallet.

steelworker 6/8/2014 10:58:34 AM Report

That shrill whining noise you hear is Wynne imploding.
Javaman 6/8/2014 11:01:39 AM Report

Girlie...do any of the parties meet your needs?
Girlie128 6/8/2014 11:56:17 AM Report

Javaman....I believe that politicians have proved that it's easy to spend other people's money, so my answer, sadly, is no...not really.

I will look to the party that has paid (at least) lip service to social programs etc., and does have a reputation for "throwing money" at issues.

I believe that social justice is not a small interest group, but a right for every citizen.



Just Curious 6/8/2014 12:12:29 PM Report

Just read the story about Harper in the National section.. I'm really beginning to think the man has lost his freaking mind !!!
Javaman 6/8/2014 12:22:53 PM Report

Hopefully all unionized workers will not vote for any party determined to take their job away. Job security must be their JOB ONE.
BIG BROTHER 6/8/2014 12:45:55 PM Report

JC,
Here's a quote from the article...'But Harper says he's not afraid to take stands that put Canada offside from other allies, from time to time.'

Obama is letting Merkel do the negotiating with Putin. She has been in daily contact with Putin and Obama and Germany has much more at stake than anyone. Harper is nothing but a threat to a peaceful settlement to the issue, making outlandish claims of nonsense. He is an absolute dolt and an embarrassment to all self respecting Canadians. Canada has spent generations building up our reputation as negotiators and a voice of reason, only to have Harper spend that goodwill, stroking his own ego.
Javaman 6/8/2014 12:48:36 PM Report

Harper is hoping that when his time is up(soon) as PM...the international stage will want him.
Girlie128 6/8/2014 12:54:52 PM Report

I believe you're right, JM. Harper is acting like a pimply -faced, horny teenaged boy, sniffing after the popular girl, world politics. And he looks just as stupid.
Snobank 6/8/2014 1:21:55 PM Report

Girlie, you are making excellent thoughtful sense in today's postings.

BTW is it just me or are the home page headlines now impossible to read?
Javaman 6/8/2014 1:25:28 PM Report

SNOWBANK..I AGREE...THE HEADLINES ARE just about impossible to resd. I have started to click on the LOCAL NEWS tab.
flyhawk25 6/8/2014 1:39:28 PM Report

Now I understand how embarrassed Americans felt with Dubyuh on the world stage.
None of the leaders do anything but ignore him.
With reason.
His handlers call this 'leadership'.I'd call him a country bumpkin but don't want to offend bumpkins.
Bill_the_Cat 6/8/2014 1:41:07 PM Report

Cuts are on their way regardless of who is in government in a few weeks.

Plans were drawn up in early autumn 2013 for serious cuts in Education: all boards were asked for input, but we shall see what the end result is.

Oh wait, we've already seen Special Needs slashed again, Boards asked to take a 10% budget cut, reduction in support for underutilized schools (almost all of the ADSB and other rural, northern boards).

At the very least, the PCs are upfront about the cuts to programs--not doing them behind the voters' backs--whilst not turning around and p!ssing away your dollars on pet projects and sucking up to the public service unions.
Bill_the_Cat 6/8/2014 1:42:40 PM Report

flyhawk: Vic Fedeli excepted?
Girlie128 6/8/2014 2:09:19 PM Report

Bill_the_Cat....really? Do you think that the gov't sucks up to public service unions?

Who educated you?
Who protects your privacy?
Who protects your safety?
Who takes care of you in the hospital?
Who makes our roads safe?
Who takes care of your ageing parents?
Who makes sure you can fish and hunt?
Who makes sure your water is clean?
Who makes sure our forests aren't clear-cut by profit-mongering individuals?
Who works the safety net to assist you when the bottom falls out of your world?
Who fights for your wages when the person who should be paying you isn't?

The public service takes a lot of hits by the very population they swear to serve.

The gov't of the day (any day) blames public servants for the deficit because they're easy targets. The work some of the public servants perform may not be front page news every day....but aren't you glad you have them when you need them?

Why shouldn't they have a union to protect them?

Why shouldn't the gov't "suck up to public service unions" a bit. After all....how good would the gov't look without a good strong public service?
steelworker 6/8/2014 2:31:19 PM Report

At least Harper takes a stand against Putin. Obama is too busy golfing, going on vacation or bowing to Saudi princes. Harper probably is more respected by Putin than Obummer.
flyhawk25 6/8/2014 3:04:45 PM Report

Oh 'probably'.
So why not call the President a name?
'Probably' doesn't care what you think any more than we do.
Just Curious 6/8/2014 3:08:38 PM Report

steelworker, Putin is laughing up his sleeve at Harper , as most of the free world is, no doubt. Him and his little puppet stand up and stamp their feet and whine and cry and they know full and well Canada can do squat about any of it. It's just grandstanding on a large scale and he is destroying Canada's reputation as peacekeepers. Our sanctions mean shit to Putin, he doesn't care how much vodka we buy, he doesn't supply our gas, nobody buys Ladas any more so what does he have to lose to Canada?? Harpers like a little kid who's pissed 'cause they won't let him pitch and they won't give his ball back so he can go home.. The man is acting like a total idiot and needs to get home and resign while he still has some face left to save..:(.
ThinkAgain 6/8/2014 3:13:58 PM Report

Funny someone asks me to volunteer and help drive for those that need a ride to the voting stations.
The have nerve to ask me to volunteer when the top dogs we are voting for all make a very rewarding salary/benefits/perks. I live in poverty myself and nobody volunteers to help with my disability - what is this world coming to.
Shaking my head in discuss.
steelworker 6/8/2014 3:20:41 PM Report

Canadas' reputation went to hell went we went from "soldiers" to "peacekeepers" (or what the Chinese call "paper tigers"). You want "peacekeepers" join the boyscouts or the Peace Corp. At least Harper is showing a little testicular fortitude unlike our Chump-in-Chief to the south.
flyhawk25 6/8/2014 3:21:33 PM Report

Both Harper and Obama travel with a secure suitcase close.
Obama's has nuclear codes and a phone.
Harper's has a Dominion Seed Catalog, a copy of Hockey News and a new X Box.
Just Curious 6/8/2014 3:29:49 PM Report

Fly, that's funny.....LOL..
bounder 6/8/2014 3:32:48 PM Report

Girlie, who do you think funds all those who who,the man in the moon or the money tree.
Taxpayers we want a bang for the buck and accountability.
Javaman 6/8/2014 3:34:20 PM Report

I guess Harper will never be concerned about the needs of the people of Canada. Of course he is looking for attention of the WORLD stage so that he can secure a position such as head of the security council...head of the United Nations. There is only one head that he is...you know.
steelworker 6/8/2014 3:35:55 PM Report

fly: I call b.s. on the X-box. Harper is a Playstation guy all the way. Time to wander off to the Hilton for a double Ceasar and a little r-and r on the deck.
flyhawk25 6/8/2014 3:41:36 PM Report

If you're going to drink a Caesar you might want to learn to spell it.
steelworker 6/8/2014 3:54:53 PM Report

You say potato.....
Girlie128 6/8/2014 3:59:55 PM Report

That's my point exactly, Bounder.

I have no problem paying taxes. None.

My problem lies in the senseless spending the gov't of the day. (any gov't).

I may be naive, but I do think that there is a better way to spend our money. Why do the MPPs vote on their raises in pay/pension. Shouldn't the people they work for approve increases in pay?

Do you remember, about 10 years ago or more, the young single mom from Thunder Bay who was arrested for defrauding the welfare system? She had saved money from her meagre cheque each month to put into savings for her son's education. Here is a person who we need in government.

She had the fore site to change the future....she practiced fiscal restraint....she was responsible to the things that mattered most.



Javaman 6/8/2014 4:18:11 PM Report

I am afraid most of those seeking public office, like David O for first and foremost looking out for themselves. They have given up a position of some sort in order to run for office. Sometimes they get a leave from their job such as David did...sometimes not. Once elected they, are now focused on keeping that seat...being re-elected. The smell of a nice pension after a few years of service is vey appealing. They get to know how to play the game...make promises that hopefully folks will forget. Also...run down the other parties and its candidates. Do whatever it takes to get that seat in the house back again.
Wild Turkey 6/8/2014 4:24:16 PM Report

Putin regards Canada in the same light as the barren Russian Steppes of Siberia.Harper knows this and is trying to get noticed.
Poking the Russian Bear is not the way to do it.
He likes to play with the "big Kids", but They don't want his toys, and just wish He would stay home.
They aren't laughing at Him yet, but He'd best quit while He's still insignificant.
The "g8" will likely kick out Canada and re-admit Russia, because what does Canada have to offer Europe,other than promising to support The New regime in Ukraine?
statusquo 6/8/2014 5:40:40 PM Report

Javaman,

"I am afraid most of those seeking public office, like David O for first and foremost looking out for themselves."

- Maybe but not necessarily. It is not a "fun" job.


"They have given up a position of some sort in order to run for office. Sometimes they get a leave from their job such as David did...sometimes not."

-Some could have made more money working in the private sector with less headaches.


"Once elected they, are now focused on keeping that seat...being re-elected."

-Wouldn't you?


"The smell of a nice pension after a few years of service is vey appealing."

-Again, depending on the qualifications/job they left behind they could have had a better retirement package in the private sector.

" They get to know how to play the game..."

-We all do.


"make promises that hopefully folks will forget. Also...run down the other parties and its candidates. Do whatever it takes to get that seat in the house back again."

-It's called politics. Has been going on since time immemorial.

David O did better than most representatives we've had.
In the grand scheme of things we in the Sault would be slightly better off with the liberals forming a minority government with the NDP.
Hudak is delusional and dangerous.
Snobank 6/8/2014 5:42:19 PM Report

As a public communication service:

YOU'RE.........YOU ARE.

YOUR...........IT BELONGS TO YOU.

THEY'RE........THEY ARE.

THEIR..........IT BELONGS TO THEM.

THERE..........A PLACE.

WE'VE..........WE ARE.

WERE...........PAST TENSE OF "ARE"

WHERE..........A PLACE.

THEN...........A POINT IN TIME.

THAN...........A METHOD OF COMPARISON.

TWO............THE NUMBER 2.

TO.............INDICATES MOTION.

TOO............ALSO OR EXCESSIVELY.


Hold the applause. You are all welcome.
flyhawk25 6/8/2014 5:43:46 PM Report

To the majority of Canadians Harper's antics overseas are embarrassing.
But to the knee-jerk neo-cons he is a diplomatic guru.They will never change.
I don't hate the man I just think he is delusional.
steelworker 6/8/2014 6:10:43 PM Report

I don't think that Harper is delusional unlike Obama who traded five psycho-killers for one hippy deserter just to make political hay. Obama is confident that they will behave in Qatar and not hang out with a bad crowd.
Wild Turkey 6/8/2014 6:32:40 PM Report

Steel-a-roo----Obama took a page from the Israeli's playbook.Except they usually go 100 for one.Look at it that way and The Yanks got a good deal.
Bill_the_Cat 6/8/2014 6:47:14 PM Report

girlie: The purpose of a public sector union is to protect the interests of the people it represents. And quite rightly so. There are other stakeholders at the table--the largest of which is the taxpayer.

Public sector jobs are a net loss to the economy, and must be balanced out with wealth creation (of which they are but one structural part). It seems that balance is a wee bit skewed at the moment.
statusquo 6/8/2014 6:50:34 PM Report

steelhead,

"political hay"?....

Why must you prove time and again that you're an idiot? We already know.

But I give you the benefit of the doubt....maybe you just had one too many "caesars" (note the spelling)....

I have a hunch that Obama might have known a thing or two more about the ramifications of his decision than a garden variety steelworker from the "Soo" as to why he did what he did.....

I feel intellectually violated (self rape) even responding to any of your inane posts.
Bill_the_Cat 6/8/2014 6:54:00 PM Report

Most of the OPSEU people I have known certainly do not qualify for the Sunshine list, but there seem to be a very large number of them in compensation.

Your rather large list exemplifies the problem: Is it the government's job to do everything for you, from cradle to grave? I'm not looking for a return to Edwardian times, but over-bloat and mission-creep in large government bureaucracies is a problem many jurisdictions deal with--from Sweden through to the US.
steelworker 6/8/2014 7:25:32 PM Report

stats: please quit "self raping" yourself as you will go blind or become a democrat.
statusquo 6/8/2014 7:29:25 PM Report

My eye sight is already compromised and tea makes me ill.
statusquo 6/8/2014 7:43:08 PM Report


As far as I can remember it wasn't a democrat who tapped his foot at the Minneapolis airport mensroom.
Buried deep in the textbooks of psychosexual pathology there may be an answer, so to speak. Does the GOP draw closeted men because they can hide behind a perceived patriotism? Does the party draw closeted men because they can hide behind Republican homophobia? Or does the party promote homophobia as a political ruse while closeted men run the show?
Have another drink and get back to me.
(smiley face)
and btw, you're still an idiot, a smart one nonetheless but an idiot.
steelworker 6/8/2014 7:55:49 PM Report

So when did you sign up for tap-dancing lessons? Also: they don't call him "Bath-house Barry" for nothing.
flyhawk25 6/8/2014 9:10:04 PM Report

Sq...why are you even engaging with the last of the swamp clan?
It's the same old puerile sniping day after day with no real insight.
Leave him to drink things he cannot spell.
Hunter101 6/8/2014 9:51:47 PM Report

Swamp clan? Last of? I'm still here you know.

Patiently awaiting what everyone will say when the conservatives get elected.
nanag 6/8/2014 10:16:12 PM Report

Snobank

"WE'VE...WE ARE" ???????

forgive my correction but I believe

WE'VE....WE HAVE :)
Bobby Nerves 6/8/2014 10:47:17 PM Report

hunmpster101, not everyday you'll find a post as opportune as the one from ironical man. You'll find an answer to your expectations in that message.

RMAOFL
Snobank 6/8/2014 11:58:20 PM Report


"Snobank

"WE'VE...WE ARE" ???????

forgive my correction but I believe

WE'VE....WE HAVE :)"

You're absolutely right, Nanag. Thanks for the correction. It should have read:

"WE'RE...WE ARE"
steelworker 6/9/2014 2:31:54 AM Report

fly: the king of sniping. Sorry some of us have to get up and work in the real world.
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