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Sunday, June 01, 2014   by: The Soap BoxWelcome to the SooToday.com View Room. This editorial feature is for you to post comments. To comment on a specific news story please post your comment directly under the news story.
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Mr. Poster 6/1/2014 6:58:43 AM Report

The weather is great.....TOO BAD politics is not the same. If an election were held today...who gets your vote locally?
flyhawk25 6/1/2014 7:33:52 AM Report

I wonder how Spelly did at the regatta yesterday,
I was on the island yesterday until the bugs drove me out. He probably had the best place to be - on the water. He may have needed a fan to assist his sails.And a long extension cord...
Bobby Nerves 6/1/2014 7:56:17 AM Report

It seems obvious that Desmond Tutu doesn't have a back yard, and if he has one, must be a lot of followers cleaning it, or so he believes.

There you have, another religious fanatic with the intentions of shoveling all the good teachings that made Africa what it is.

Show that lunatic the exit door.
Jimssm 6/1/2014 8:24:29 AM Report

In other news....

A young girl in Richmond is ejected from her senior prom because her dress and body were causing the right-wing male chaperones to have 'impure thoughts'.
lookaround 6/1/2014 8:28:38 AM Report

Bobby Nerves you seem angry. Keep Calm and Breathe. Go for a hike. That will clear the mind of all negative thoughts or go to church and listen to a sermon any denomination will do.
gcubed 6/1/2014 8:34:46 AM Report

BEST QUOTE EVER!

"The Budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled,
public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be
tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be
curtailed, lest Rome will become bankrupt. People must again learn to work
instead of living on public assistance." - Cicero, 55 BC

So, evidently we've learned nothing over the past 2,069 years.

I didn't even know that Cicero was a Progressive Conservative!


statusquo 6/1/2014 8:44:25 AM Report

Jim,

And this is of relevance why?
Is it because you are running out of excuses to defend Islam and it's atrocious record of treating women?
You cite a silly, laughable incident that happened in the Bible belt in the U.S, populated by mostly fundamentalist cretins to somehow show that we are all the same and try to somehow equate it to stoning, throwing acid in a woman's face, kidnapping 300 schoolgirls or shooting a girl in the head on a bus because she wants to go to school?

It won't stick Jim! Try harder.

In a Muslim run country she would have possibly gotten 100 lashes, never mind getting expelled from a dance.

Jimssm 6/1/2014 8:50:43 AM Report

Stats...

Where did that diatribe come from ?

I posted it because I thought the incident was funny, or as you say 'laughable'.

I'm sorry if it upset you.
statusquo 6/1/2014 8:51:03 AM Report

Gcubed,


The problem with that is that our debt and the financial state of affairs we are in has little to do with people living off of public assistance, as you try to have us infer.
It was brought about by incompetence and mismanagement of our tax dollars , careless spending and recently by allowing our dollar to soar beyond it's natural state and that is roughly 20% lower than the U.S counterpart.


statusquo 6/1/2014 8:53:41 AM Report

My apologies Jim,

I do know that you have a sense of humor....I was assuming you were making comparisons in regards to our little quarrel we had last evening.
I shall now take a pill and enjoy the day.

Mr. Poster 6/1/2014 8:54:03 AM Report

Who do we owe this massive debt to? Does he/she have an office in Ottawa? Has anyone ever met this person(s) we owe this debt to?
Spellchecker 6/1/2014 8:55:17 AM Report

Hi Flyhawk. My performance is on a very definite upswing in the Hilton Beach race season. I've gone from last to second last and rarin' to go for next week's race.
Spellchecker 6/1/2014 8:56:28 AM Report

Oh, and the wind was excellent on the lake for the race.
Wisenheimer 6/1/2014 9:05:08 AM Report

Woman stoned in Pakistan (with bricks) because her relatives didn't like her choice of beau, to take her to the "prom".
Bobby Nerves 6/1/2014 9:28:55 AM Report

You're defaming Islam. You can walk miles and miles without seen a brick in Pakistan.

Ask jimssm, he's a jehova witness.
Wisenheimer 6/1/2014 9:29:41 AM Report

So the CAD was purposely floated above parity with USD by Mark Carney, (now head of the Bank Of England) for political purposes?
Had nothing to do with commodity prices or the U.S. banking meltdown.
Brings truth to Churchill's missive that " the trouble with democracy is apparent after a 5 minute conversation with the average voter."
statusquo 6/1/2014 9:35:43 AM Report

Wisenheimer....

Reading comprehension issues?

Jimssm 6/1/2014 9:38:13 AM Report

I apologize for posting what I thought was a funny story.

I see the View Room is back to it's old state. Have fun kids.
statusquo 6/1/2014 9:40:19 AM Report

"Allowing" something to happen is not the same as "purposely" doing something Wisen.

Again! Learn to read ,I know it's in you.
soowat 6/1/2014 9:48:28 AM Report

Spellchecker

Congratulations on your improved result.

For whatever reason, your result reminded me of of the example that a former history prof used as an example of propaganda.

There was a two car race between the USA and USSR which the USA won.
In the Russian media the result was stated as follows

There was a significant auto race held in which the USA and USSR participated. The USSR came in second and the USA came in next to last.
Bobby Nerves 6/1/2014 9:50:48 AM Report

@lookaround, It may read like anger, but I'm outraged.

Who paid for this lunatic trip to Alberta?

Can't we show him the road to Russia? Venezuela? or perhaps someone should tell him that we'll take his opinion into consideration, and now is time for him to talk the talk and walk the walk, in Africa.

And if someone believes that I'm not polite enough because this person completed a doctorate and is a nobel prize winner... well, He shares the room with another lunatic Yasser Arafat, Al Gore, Obama, Rubio, Moniz, just to point few.

This is not religious hate at all, because this person would be a lunatic in any field, with the difference that would he have been an oil rig operator, no one would pay attention to his obnoxious diatribe.
Albedo 6/1/2014 9:51:54 AM Report

statusquo

There are some global studies available on Muslims and sharia law.
They are readily available on the internet.
One in depth global study involved face to face discussions with over 38,000 Muslims from a variety of countries.
The results are indeed eye opening and support much of what you state.
Countries with high populations of Muslims showed support of sharia law starting with a low of 75% to a high of 99%.
The study also showed a varying opinion of when sharia should be applied and to what degree.
I applauded Canada when a message was sent that honor killings would not be tolerated by your country.
There are 25 areas in Britain that are now completely controlled by Muslims and sharia is widely practiced.
British police officers rarely dare to patrol some of these areas.
A recent study showed that 48% of British citizens are now considering leaving their own country.
Bobby Nerves 6/1/2014 10:00:21 AM Report

Jimssm, this bulletin is free and you get what you paid for.

If you post a message expecting everyone else to say... amen, you're not fair with us neither with yourself.

You have a vision about religion and that makes you a witness, a believer.

We're all religious in one way or another and many can laugh about it, others can't but we all are in search of something.

You can go away, but think about this... God is an atheist. And no one can prove otherwise.
flyhawk25 6/1/2014 10:17:23 AM Report

Jimssm...to use a line from Sendak's 'Where the Wild Things Are' - oh no please don't go we'll miss you so.
This site needs your input.Ignore the ignorant.
Bill_the_Cat 6/1/2014 11:13:42 AM Report

I view jimssm as trying to curb the perceived excesses of some posters. He is quite right to separate Islam from the tribal practices often found around it.

That is not meant to say that there is not a threat. A not insignificant fifth column does exist in many western countries.

Bill_the_Cat 6/1/2014 11:17:43 AM Report

albedo: There are areas in France where it's far worse. The banlieue(s) can be quite frightening for non-muslims.
flyhawk25 6/1/2014 11:29:23 AM Report

Spelly...congrats!
I won't ask who finished last but you are my hero.
Jimssm 6/1/2014 11:43:59 AM Report

Fly...

I'm not going anywhere.

I just have a hard time with some on here who repeat what they've Googled without applying the BS filters.



Albedo 6/1/2014 11:47:37 AM Report

Bill_the_cat

I completely agree that you cannot place all in the same basket.
However facts are facts.

The four countries that still have beheading are all Islamic.
Amputation as punishment, flogging, stoning, open honor killings, execution for being an atheist, execution for being gay, all officially Islamic countries and these are just a few of the examples of the barbaric practices.
Human Rights Watch reported that hundreds of teenage girls imprisoned in Afghanistan were charged with moral crimes.
Further investigation by Human Rights Watch found that these girls where running from violent husbands, forced marriages or were imprisoned for extramarital affairs after being raped.
If a group desires to prove that they do not support this belief public denouncement goes a long way.
Anti-war, anti-abortionist, gay rights, gun control, you name it and most any group pro or con will not hesitate to publicly portray their view.
As you know silence can speak volumes.
statusquo 6/1/2014 11:50:04 AM Report

Bill,

From previous posts I can sense that Jim is by and large levelheaded and sane. But criticism of Islam hits close to home. Fair enough.
I also want to make it clear that I did say that most of the horrendous things done in the name of Islam do indeed stem from tribalism, and ancient cultural shackles that in this day and age should not be tolerated.
However, it does seem that Islam lends itself to be used to justify such behaviour.
In the Hadith, the prophet indeed talks about stoning, and indiscriminate killing of non believers known as Jihad.
Now, to what extend this is interpreted by various groups as a to be fulfilled prophecy, and sanctioned by Allah's will is anybody's guess.
The evidence speaks for itself.

Are we really that manipulated by Western media that we cannot see the whole picture and the finer nuances? Is the friction between Muslims and Non Muslims in Europe a fabrication? Is it just a coincidence that most if not all stonings and death-penalties for blasphemy just so happen to be perpetrated in Islamic countries?

Why is it frowned upon to ask questions and calling a spade a spade and thus running the risk of being dismissed as a bigot and racist the moment one mentions the common thread which is indeed a rigid and immovable doctrine concocted 15 centuries ago .
Would we tolerate a political party that insists to the covering up of women, the persecution of homosexuals, the marrying off of young girls as young as 12 to old men, the hacking off of limbs for shoplifters, the prohibition of alcohol and consumption of certain foods, the rigid adherence to how food should be prepared or indeed animals be slaughtered for no other reason other than pleasing the leader of such party.
It reeks a bit of totalitarianism, and I am sure such a party platform wouldn't go too far and any sane , thinking person would discard it.
And yet, because it is based on a "religion" we must respect it!
I for one will not unless and until Islam reforms itself from within, but frankly I cannot see that happening any time soon.
irishfey 6/1/2014 11:54:32 AM Report

Morning folks... Jimssm, so you can read my thoughts now can you? :) Please re read my posts. I don't care for Wynne as she comes to the table with an arrogant attitude and makes this election seem like it's just all about " her ".. That's just my opinion though.... as i don't care for Arrogant folks! As for the " degrees", Yes these folks should be proud of themselves, but as I stated," some "that do have them are lost to the way of thinking of those that don't have them and to be in Office you should be able to talk and understand folk from every walk of life. I will vote for the one i feel will do the best job for us " little " folk, as the higher ups are already doing fine for themselves ( yes, good for them, they earned it ) and i will vote for the one i choose, degree or not...... Later.. too nice of a day to be stuck in here ,lol
Albedo 6/1/2014 12:10:46 PM Report

statusquo

According to one post we are ignorant for doing so.
Just Curious 6/1/2014 12:24:30 PM Report

Bobby, this time I agree with you. Toot-Toot needs to stay home and cure his own countries problems, as we should be doing here. It just strikes me funny as I wonder if he actually understands where the fuel comes from that powered his plane to get here so he could rag us out.. Go home, dude, you aren't going to solve any problems here and neither is the old has-been Neil Young...
Zing 6/1/2014 12:54:49 PM Report

There are all sorts of Islamist groups. Some of them are peaceful, law-abiding citizens. Others give them all a big bad reputation.

"Why is it frowned upon to ask questions and calling a spade a spade and thus running the risk of being dismissed as a bigot and racist the moment one mentions the common thread which is indeed a rigid and immovable doctrine concocted 15 centuries ago."

http://tinyurl.com/l2gl5d4

The Muslim Brotherhood has made itself a nice home in Canada. They were facing resistance in their home country and dispersed to England, Canada and elsewhere. This group is known to recruit from within our country.

Jimssm 6/1/2014 12:55:30 PM Report

Albedo:

If there was public condemnation of brutal acts by radical Islam or tribal forces, would you see it in the western media ?

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2014/06/pakistan-clerics-issue-honour-killing-fatwa-201461960536332.html


Jimssm 6/1/2014 1:03:50 PM Report

Albedo...

To my knowledge, no one on here was referring to either you or Stats as ignorant.

Ignorance comes in the one line comments meant only to troll.
i.e. bacon jokes
Wild Turkey 6/1/2014 1:14:17 PM Report

"I see the Blue Room is back to it's old state"
You bet---call somebody racist, or ignorant when they say something you don't agree with.
Best to ignore them.Hopefully they'll just go away.Or maybe they're just trolls, knowing how easy it is to pull chains.As someone once said---"There's a pleasure in being mad, that only mad-men know.
steelworker 6/1/2014 1:18:12 PM Report

I see that this site is slowly returning to the good old days. Devolution for the masses.
flyhawk25 6/1/2014 1:18:43 PM Report

It is true that the winners get to write the history.
Today is the 25th anniversary of the Tiananemen Squars were slaughter in China. Yet no journalist are permitted near it and no references were made.
It is ever thus.
Different countries, different regimes - same control.
steelworker 6/1/2014 1:46:03 PM Report

Maybe Tutu can fly over there and show the Chinese the error of their ways.
Jimssm 6/1/2014 2:04:42 PM Report

Wild Turkey...

It has always been pretty easy to pull my chain and get a reaction.

The chain is very short and attached directly to my genitals.
....it was my wife's idea.
Zing 6/1/2014 2:11:15 PM Report

ROTFLMAOPMP!

Jimssm, I am going to steal that one, thanks.
Just Curious 6/1/2014 2:23:56 PM Report

Jimssm, that is so funny...LOL..Know exactly what you are saying, been married 4 times, and the chain gets shorter each time...:)..
rockbanger 6/1/2014 4:56:02 PM Report

HERO

Desmond Tutu is a hero.

The Ney-Sayers are Yankee following boot-lickers.

Tutu by taking his stance on the tar sands is up against big American Oil Interests. Remember that clown Mulroney pushed to sell off all our Canadian Oil Companies so now we do not even profit from the FILTH. We just live in it and kiss Yankee Butt.

Bravo sir.... Tell it like it is and let the snivelers hide!

It was not even 5 years ago when the right wing insisted there was no such thing as global weather change from CO2 emissions. WRONG. None of them are so loud in their opinion now. COWARDS.

If you love your children and their children it is time to back men like Desmond Tutu and change the way we live and insist on a clean environment. Any politician who has helped to develop the FILTH should be jailed for crimes against Canadians.

Changing the rabid US Oil machine is a bigger task than any of us could possibly imagine. But letting our climate warm up and living in the FILTH is absurd.

steelworker 6/1/2014 5:14:25 PM Report

The Midol is in aisle five.
flyhawk25 6/1/2014 5:55:00 PM Report

steelworker...I actually laughed out loud at that. Good stuff.
For the most part I agree with the comments. Just not the delivery.
But...I am still chuckling.
Jimssm 6/1/2014 5:56:56 PM Report

Maybe if there ever came a day when we weren't going to Desmond Tutu's corner of the world to interfere in their politics for monetary gain, we would be in a better moral position to tell the Archbishop where to go.
flyhawk25 6/1/2014 6:05:05 PM Report

Jimssm...exactly.
But to have a 'better moral position' we must have a sense of morality.
I ear that too many of our leaders can't even spell the word.
flyhawk25 6/1/2014 6:08:01 PM Report

Apparently I can't spell 'fear' either.
Oops.
Snobank 6/1/2014 6:09:55 PM Report

If a world leader feels forced to claim, "I'm moral," just just repeat it quickly after him/her, "I'm moral, I'mmoral immoral." Now it all makes sense.
steelworker 6/1/2014 7:01:44 PM Report

Tutu, Gore,Suzuki and the rest of the moneygrubbing fearmongers should be tossed into a volcano.
steelworker 6/1/2014 7:02:12 PM Report

Throw Neil Young in too.
shakespeare 6/1/2014 7:28:40 PM Report

Another for your cauldron, steely?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km051G-ybNM
Just Curious 6/1/2014 7:49:32 PM Report

So now we get subliminal messages on Sootoday??
mallet 6/1/2014 8:09:08 PM Report



Jimssm and FLyhawk..

While I agree in South Africa Mr Tutu can voice his opinions, I am not sure I would welcome him into my house if he walks in and says "your house is filthy".. I know it is not the same, but I think one should not be too outspoken when in another country. I do not think we (industrialised countries)interfere too much in their politics today, unless of course if we are asked for food, medical assistance, military assistance, financial assistance of one sort or another, then there might be strings attached. I think Canada has learned its' lesson as far as trying to influence foreign politicians, especially after the Arab spring and Syria...
statusquo 6/1/2014 8:12:53 PM Report

steels,

What volcano? ...you didn't specify one in your erudite grunt.
Etna? Vesuvius? Mount St. Helens? Krakatoa?
You need a 4"bah"4 to "git" up all "them-there" hills.
I am sure you own one with at least a 6 liter engine with an aftermarket cool air intake. "Gots" to have "that them" haulin' power.
I can just see you haulin' them greenies up there , with the fuzzy dice danglin' from the rear view "mirrah", and you tossin' em into the gorge, you will probably clean the earwax out of your ears with the ignition key afterwards.

Did I drop enough "g" s?

notpc 6/1/2014 8:20:38 PM Report

Rockbanger

Desmond Tutu WAS a hero, but he's ruining his reputation with junkets like this one to the oilsands. Oil sands producers are far more environmentally responsible than producers in Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, Nigeria, Russia, etc. They develop and use the latest technology to minimize damage and they reclaim the land that is stripped, which by the way only provides 20% of the current production.

Yet Tutu only criticizes the one development that actually uses good environmental practices. He's never gone to any of those other countries to condemn their practices which are far worse. Nor does he condemn the apparently abominable mining practices in his own country. That's hypocritical and merely helps to ruin what ever good reputation he might still have.
shakespeare 6/1/2014 8:25:58 PM Report

I don't post much now, but I'm sure Spelly will be glad that I reinforce that "it's" only has an apostrophe when it abbreviates "it is". When "its" is a possessive, it requires no apostrophe. This mistake is made constantly by left and Wisenheimerish right wingers all the time.
Remember "it's" means "it is" ... "its" means "the Conservative party licked its wounds"
statusquo 6/1/2014 8:51:16 PM Report

Shakes,

It's "Wisenesque".

You "should of" known that.

You're welcome.
steelworker 6/1/2014 9:07:01 PM Report

Yee-haw stats: I'll gitterdun right after I have a little sex with your uncle/dad.
statusquo 6/1/2014 9:14:44 PM Report

What the...

Mah sister too ugly for yah?
steelworker 6/1/2014 9:21:20 PM Report

Nothin' like a little sexification after snake-handlin' all day.
flyhawk25 6/1/2014 9:26:12 PM Report

Aide from getting his name spelled correctly I wonder how many of TuTu's critics thought he was that cool dog in that movie who got blown to one of those exotic places like Kansas or Disneyland.
joewho999 6/1/2014 9:47:06 PM Report

There are six new snow plough trucks being outfitted for this coming winter.Hope they stay in our local.
Wisenheimer 6/1/2014 10:16:19 PM Report

"allow" ... to give permission.
It's right there on the wikipedia thingy.
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