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View Room Comments for Wednesday, May. 28 2014

Wednesday, May 28, 2014   by: The Soap BoxWelcome to the View Room. This editorial feature is for you to post comments. To comment on a specific news story please post your comment directly under the news story.
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Bobby Nerves 5/28/2014 6:42:31 AM Report

Just in case you change your mind, this phone may be of help to you:

(705) 254-1312

David Poluck 5/28/2014 7:13:07 AM Report

Good morning...Great game last night!
Looks like the Hab's still have gas in the tank!
AlwaysAWinner 5/28/2014 7:28:17 AM Report

I saw a comment of someone mentioning that public sector wages are much higher than private sector wages

I don't know if this is 'common knowledge' or not, but it's not true. maybe it was ten years ago, but it is absolutely not the case know. Public sector is constantly being beaten by the private sector, they can hire people with a higher wage and offer the same benefits. public sector wages are below private sector, and the hiring process is tough because of it.

Just wanted to say that since public sector workers get enough bashing as it is (easy job, good pay, your life is easy, etc)

None of this is really true, the work is the same as private sector, the wages are lower, AND there's wage freezes. The best jobs are the ones out of government right now.
theprotector 5/28/2014 7:33:24 AM Report

I am a retired public servant and you are correct. Perhaps it was 20 years ago a government job was well paid. Now when comparing jobs to the private sector equvilants the private sector is 20 to 30 percent higher, better benefits, better pension. All I see now is continued roll back of public servant wages and benefits. The government plays into the stereotype of lazy over paid employees to the public. Thus making it easy to cut wages (freeze) or roll back benefits and move or eliminate jobs. Now the federal government has eliminated too many people and cant get the job done - thanks harpo and hayes!
bounder 5/28/2014 7:36:09 AM Report

And this will be of help to you also,helping hands are always welcome.705 256 3469
David Poluck 5/28/2014 7:36:23 AM Report

Interesting interview with the PC candidate.
Mr. Poster 5/28/2014 7:36:51 AM Report

You mentioned he still around and trying to be relevant? I never want to hear how having a member of the ruling party will reap us rewards.
flyhawk25 5/28/2014 7:41:17 AM Report

I watched the interview with Rod Fremlin on Local 2 last night.
He seem like a good fellow who is concerned with the same issues most of us with an open mind and a conscience are. In short he is Everyman but running for office.
In a perfect world that is the type of person who should be in government.But in today's parliamentary democracy he will be lost and I'm afraid ineffectual.
His NDP opponent is a socialist iconoclast who understands philosophies but who appears naive.
The Liberal candidate is a polished Professional Politician who was bred to the job.
Sadly we know what happens to altruistic decent people like Tony Martin and Russ Ramsay. We eat them up and throw them away.
Barring a last minute scandal I know how I will vote - hold my nose and vote Liberal.
Just Curious 5/28/2014 7:43:02 AM Report

bounder, was a post deleted? Don't get what you and Bobby are talking about..:).
Mr. Poster 5/28/2014 7:50:20 AM Report

Hudak continues to scare voters. Horwath is taking the party too far right and has party members complaining. Many will not forgive her for forcing an election when the Liberals gave her an NDP flavoured budget.
Wynne continues to roll along and seems sincere about putting the past behind and moving forward. She has not stumbled.She is not threatening to eliminate jobs.
I think she will be very close to a majority when all is said and done.
Just Curious 5/28/2014 8:06:03 AM Report

With 3 parties such as we have now I sincerely hope none get a majority. At least with a minority there must be a consensus of maybe 2/3 of the government to pass a bill, not like the way it is in the federal government at the moment. If the NDP could come up with a viable candidate I would vote for them but at the moment it looks like David for me..
Snobank 5/28/2014 8:30:57 AM Report

Just found out from the internet that a Sault runner was the fastest Canadian female in last week's Ottawa Marathon. Since this was an official marathon this apparently makes her the current Canadian female marathon champion.

Not a mention of it in the local media that I can spot. Anybody else hear about this?
Zing 5/28/2014 8:45:56 AM Report


One marathon victory does not make her Canadian champion, but good for her.
Wild Turkey 5/28/2014 8:46:03 AM Report

Time to put this one to bed.
Cross border shopping.

Seems the underlying cause is the price of gas.
If just one of the 3 levels of gov't would do something about high gas prices, then the cross border shopping thing would not be so severe.
I doubt that anything is going to change, anytime soon.
TFinn 5/28/2014 8:55:06 AM Report

Noticed some dumb posts on some of the news items earlier ...Happy to see SooToday watchdogs are up and at it ....great to see the idiotic posts removed (they know who they are)....honestly ... an IQ test is needed for some who post on this site. Good job SooToday
Zing 5/28/2014 9:04:17 AM Report


My mistake, the event is billed Canadian Championships.

Zing 5/28/2014 9:11:42 AM Report

Rhiannon Johns win Canadian marathon title.

I wonder if she is from the Soo.
engineguy 5/28/2014 9:13:33 AM Report


maybe you can call and we can do something about issue
flyhawk25 5/28/2014 9:20:46 AM Report

Zing...she is indeed.On scholarship in the US, humble and talented.
A fine and talented young lady.
Snobank 5/28/2014 10:03:54 AM Report

The article in the Ottawa newspaper I saw online said it was only Miss Johns 2nd marathon ever. Now that is surprising. How did all our local media miss this?
Bobby Nerves 5/28/2014 10:58:42 AM Report

The liberal candidate, Wynne said today in TO, Driving clean is saving lives in Ontario.

Driving clean refers to the emissions test.

Such a statement could change the results of the elections and the liberals may go down... or what's even worst we all can start paying for the drive clean test.
Zing 5/28/2014 11:48:29 AM Report


When I was running Marathons, we would have to call the local newspaper to advise them of all the results our local athletes achieved in that race.

Marathons are not usually covered here in the Soo unless a little gentle prodding happens from the participants.

Zing 5/28/2014 11:48:55 AM Report

Thanks Fly.
flyhawk25 5/28/2014 1:05:14 PM Report

I was out this morning and at the corner of Pine and McNabb the lights weren't working.
So a police officer was directing traffic.I know that I an getting old and dotty but the guy was more problem than a help.
I guess they don't teach them that any more.
Snobank 5/28/2014 1:49:13 PM Report

Zing, you're right. I guess someone in her family should have called it it. Many years ago when I had a peripheral connection with the news business that sort of stuff came in over the wire from the associated press and other news gathering units, (via teletype). It came in steadily and it was someone's job to to keep checking the long list of typed news and sort it in to categories for the local news guys to review and use, modify or reject. That sort of story of local interest would be spotted fairly easily.

Nowadays newspapers and online locals are all so understaffed that they have to depend on others who were actually involved, to bother to report news, sports etc. to them.

If anything, the internet has severely damaged local news reporting because it has lowered the traditional local news sites', (print, media and online,) ability to afford the staff to collect the news. There is a ton of news on the internet but it is relatively unfiltered. Most people don't have the time to sort through it all and pick out what is important or relevent to them, especially in the local news arenas. As well, the birdbrains' comments get the same even platform as the people who have cogent and fact based viewpoints.

I know I'm sounding old and crochety but I remember when the Sault Star had an actual staff for news and for sports. So did the local tv station and so did the local radio stations. Today's local reporters do their best but no local news media can afford to employ enough of them to properly cover the local news. So, the current Canadian Women's Marathon Champion is from the Sault but almost no one in the Sault knows about it.

Another irony, apparently her mother writes some sort of column on another news site affiliated with this gone.
Snobank 5/28/2014 2:07:01 PM Report

"gone" - "one"
flyhawk25 5/28/2014 3:30:59 PM Report

Another economist - this one from the Ivey School of Business at Western - has said that Hudak's 'million jobs plan' is based on bad math.
I guess the old adage of 'tell a lie over and over and people start to believe it' is not working.
redranger 5/28/2014 4:07:32 PM Report

What did Disraeli say?
gcubed 5/28/2014 5:18:51 PM Report

Someone the other day said that the "billions" spent inappropriately by the Liberal government of Ontario was "water under the bridge" and effectively shrugged the subject. The word 'billion' is simply a single word that rhymes with 'million' and as such can easily be excused by some. However, if we look at the word in a manner that we can relate to, it can make a difference. For example: I didn't realize that if a person earning a salary of $50,000.00 a year [take-home] it would take him/her twenty thousand years to pay off that one billion. And that is leaving nothing for other expenditures like food, clothing or anything else. And that is only one billion. Wow! Perhaps we should look at how the government is spending and decide if we can afford it!
theprotector 5/28/2014 6:30:48 PM Report

engineguy call me in morning!
Bobby Nerves 5/28/2014 6:31:23 PM Report

G3, and did you calculate how long will take taxpayers earning fix income to pay the over expenditures of senators Duffy and company.

Could you figure out why did they walk away with the expenditures? Well, as per the press it just happens because they collected millions and millions for the Conservative Party.

Just to put some balance when memorizing government expenditures.
lookaround 5/28/2014 7:32:43 PM Report

The Protector what the public doesn't understand that we or I do at least pay 430.00 per month to my superannuation and have no control of where it goes.
So the fallacy that the Public Servant has a free pension is a lie which Harper tries to convey to the uninformed. That money goes into a large coffer called the treasury board.
Bobby Nerves 5/28/2014 7:48:44 PM Report

And who's moneys do you think the collapse of the markets made away with?

Surely wasn't your change or the 20 dollar bills I have hanging on the wall. The crooks like B. Maddoff and many others evaporated billions of dollars from investors, personal and private some, but if we start to explore, surely some pension funds had the moneys in some not very safe investments.

I'd never read about it, because I'm not interested and I've never invested int he market, neither do I intend to, but from the billions of dollars that disappeared, or that changed hands and ended in the wrong ones, many millions and probably billions are part of pension funds.

Further, those almost holy funds, in my opinion, at one point the governments paved the way to put their hands on it and puffff, disappeared.

Probably, someone here may illustrate us about what is publicly known about it.

I do not intend to blame someone, as I understand that the pension funds managers must keep up with inflation and the cost of doing business and the real value of the money they manage and that's what they are trained for, but in the end, I very much doubt that the contributions from all the workers are there anymore.

It could very well be as the gold protected in Fort Knox.
flyhawk25 5/28/2014 8:01:46 PM Report

G3...and that has what to do with 'one million jobs'?
Not a Billion but a million.
I agree that government wastes money.The people writing the checks aren't paying the bills.
We all do.
But to somehow suggest that because government, Hudak's plan makes any sense is defection. It cannot be done.
Bobby Nerves 5/28/2014 8:07:55 PM Report


I'm sorry if I rain on your parade.

I'd like to go back to the Edward Snowden affair, briefly, to tell you that today I can say with certainty that Mr. Snowden is a traitor with flying colors.

If instead of being a fully trained CIA agent working for the Government of the USA (and probably others as double agent) in any of the secret operations that the Agency carry on (NSA in this case, among others), Mr. Snowden would have been a hacker who with knowledge made his way into the guts of the Government IT and made public how the Government is working against the public, then he could somehow be considered a spy.

Instead, as confessed now, Mr. Snowden was a trained spy who abused the trust and got away with more than a million and half files with vital information about security and who knows what else, therefore this guy, plane and simple is a traitor.

And no one was or is safe. I have a private commercial email based and warehoused in France and operated from Australia and even when the hacker couldn't get to the network, the intend was there, but for some reasons, the pass-phrase in all accounts had to be changed and so ebay and many others.

Now, it would be interesting to know who's giving him air time to clean his act and obviously he's responding to someone as he's having a good time tonight on NBC.
Just Curious 5/28/2014 9:02:17 PM Report

I'm sorry Bobby, and Grump probably will never talk to me again, but why do you have hidden Email addresses if you have nothing to hide?? Some of what you talk about have squat to do with any law abiding citizen of this country. I think you are still living in 3rd world countries in your mind. You really need to get a grip on the real world, as it exists in this great country you emigrated too.. You're not in Venezuela any more, Dorothy.. Get a grip on life in Canada..
statusquo 5/28/2014 9:06:44 PM Report

And now for something more depressing...

A 25 year old pregnant woman was stoned or "bricked" to death in front of a courthouse in Pakistan, by members of her family including her own father. Her crime? She wanted to validate her marriage to the man she chose but her family did not approve .

It is reported that in Pakistan alone, last year there were about 1000 honour killings.

Two weeks ago a pregnant woman in Sudan was sentenced to hang for refusing to renounce Christianity and has now given birth to a baby girl in prison.
She will also receive 100 lashes due to having had sex within a marriage that was not approved by Sharia law .

Over a month ago 300 Nigerian school girls were kidnapped by a radical Islamic militia better equipped and "motivated" than the Nigerian army and their school is burned down .

A girl was shot in the head on a bus because she wanted to have an education.

A couple of years ago in London , England a British soldier was hacked to death in broad daylight by Muslim extremists.

In 2009 the bodies of Zainab, 19, Sahar, 17, and Geeti Shafia, 13, along with Rona Mohammad Amir, 50, were found drowned in their car, in the Rideau Canal right here in good old Ontario.

People have been killed by merely drawing a picture of the prophet!

There are many more cases if one feels compelled to google.

Are those isolated cases perpetrated by radical Musims, or is there an underlying trend?
Is it something that will eventually go away?

One wonders.

The common thread is a culture/religion that regards women and girls as chattel or in the best case scenario, subservient to men. It's written in their book they so revere.
Islam is the newest version of the Abrahamic cults/religions/brain washing attempts and it claims to have the final word on the subject.
It is unalterable,un reformable, rigid and static and to be obeyed and followed to the "T". From "Halal" chicken now available at every grocery store in Canada to the genital mutilations of little boys and girls. everything is precisely prescribed ....they way you dress, women mostly, the way you eat and what to eat and when, they way and how often to pray and the way and severity you can beat your wife!!

Of all the three primitive mainstream religions or delusions, as I would like to call them, these sick and immoral pathologies of Judaism and Christianity that I equally scoff at, Islam is the most morally and intellectually repulsive of the lot.

It is not the Muslim people I detest but I detest their dogma and scripture and the people responsible for indoctrinating them as children with such incredible bullshit that some of them are made capable to perform such barbaric acts.
Christianity has had it's share of fanatics, and some still dwell among us, but the secular State and civil laws made by sane, thinking men and women has made it so that people like Torquemada, Zwingli, Calvin and various Popes can no longer exert their twisted ideology by torture and burning at the stake.
We have evolved , Islam has some way to go!
And it can only reform and come back to a civilized state of mind from within their own ranks, by moderate and enlightened Muslims uniting and fighting this radicalism tooth and nail.
Unless I see signs of that I cannot trust them as far as I can throw them.

This has nothing to do with "racism" or bigotry as the apologists with their collective heads in the sand will undoubtedly proclaim . It has to do with "Islamohobia" or, literally "fear of Islam" of which I am 100% guilty of.

Bobby Nerves 5/28/2014 9:22:05 PM Report

status, if we are to be fair for a moment, let's put everything on the table.

Muslims countries are dealing with their interpretation of criminality in the way they know how to.

And while they save money and the environment as they burn no powder, nor make noise and just kill you in a more natural way, with a stone... in the other end of the line, the pillow where democracy and humanity as a whole rest the ideas of freedom, the USA it's, run out of whatever they inject to those on death row, then they're discussing fire squad, gas chamber, electric chair and who knows what else.

We didn't move that much high, did we?

You know how I think, but we will never won the lottery when they are spinning 6/49 and we play 69 and 96.
statusquo 5/28/2014 9:30:44 PM Report


If you even attempt to equate the injection of a lethal dose of morphine or whatever it is they use in Texas, to a convicted murderer and rapist with the stoning to death of your own daughter for marrying somebody she loves than I have nothing further to discus as we have hit the proverbial intellectual wall!
statusquo 5/28/2014 9:33:06 PM Report

Your comparison is beyond the pale...sorry but that is what it is.
shakespeare 5/28/2014 9:35:37 PM Report

The news today was full of the new melanoma scare. As with my advice over the last years about getting colonoscopies, I wish to reiterate my advice on this scare, also.
Almost two years ago my daughter was diagnosed with stage 1 melanoma. She was raised in the Sault, never attended a tanning bed and we enforced rigorous sunscreen application, bonnets and other childhood protections. She may not have practised the same caution in her 20s.
A couple of years ago, a friend who had a melanoma scare, who had insisted, against his doctor's advice, that a mole get checked and it was found to be stage 1, saw my daughter's mole and suggested she got it checked. It looked fine to us (except it was new) and it looked fine to the doctor in the Soo, but he gave her a referral to a dermatologist in Calgary (where she lives), who also thought it looked O.K. but took it out and had it tested. The thing is, if she hadn't been recommended by my friend, who had then been referred by a doctor and if she hadn't taken a cancellation appointment in September in Calgary and waited until the following January for a regular appointment. her prognosis might not be as good. She has a 90-95% good outcome chance. This melanoma scare is real. Sunscreen up folks and look out for new skin conditions.
statusquo 5/28/2014 9:42:46 PM Report


Thanks for the update, although I knew about the dangers , I was caught with my proverbial knickers down to my ankles last Saturday and neglected to "schmier' some lotion on my forearms when I went on my epic bike ride.
I am now self medicating with a glass or two of Mouton Cadet. You should try it.
It's really good!

(smiley face)
irishfey 5/28/2014 9:42:56 PM Report

STATS... That is the best post you have ever made!!! Islam is here to stay and will not quit untill the whole world is under Sharia Law,, It states this in the Qur'an!.. This is a Religious war that we are in and it only has one end to it and trust me when i say it's not good, and I for one don't want to be around when it happens! Fear of Islam??? Yes, we should be very afraid!!!... You might get some backlash from this post, but only from the ones that have their head in the sand..... Now a question... just how in the heck am i supposed to sleep tonight?
shakespeare 5/28/2014 9:48:32 PM Report

Stat: I thought about you as I posted that! Keep up with the Aloe Vera and the lower body rubs.
irishfey 5/28/2014 9:50:41 PM Report

J.C ... Great post, but i can't say in here what i'm thinking.......
Bobby Nerves 5/28/2014 9:52:51 PM Report

status, we have to observe the facts as they are. If you step back for a moment and remove all emotions, all superstitions, and all cultural barriers then it could be discussed.

Muslim is a way of life, weather we like it of not, they work and die for the man.

You're not defending anyone, you are just outraged with the facts, and so are the muslims when they are told about the facts on this side of the wall.

I think I can understand few things withing a culture where they kill a daughter because she choose to think at her own, but in the other hand, they have no inhibitions to deliver a nine yoa other daughter to the future... 36 yoa husband.

It's cultural.

But when it goes to empowered people there is no difference among sheriff arpaio, judge john doe and any ayatollah, they all pursue the same, votes, power and self serving.
statusquo 5/28/2014 9:53:05 PM Report


Sleep?...put the moves on will come naturally.
I would suggest the missionary position...just to be safe.
lookaround 5/28/2014 9:53:15 PM Report

Muslims are a big problem they impose their law in our land and will never assimilate. So why allow a culture that is poisonous?
Bobby Nerves 5/28/2014 9:57:53 PM Report

And let's not be biased... what about Meriam Ibrahim in Sudan... she had her death sentence postponed for two years as she give birth... her crime? Refusing to abandon christianity... or refusing to converting to islam.

Your pick.
statusquo 5/28/2014 10:09:30 PM Report


Of course it's cultural, but that doesn't mean we have to excuse or apologize for it.

It is, by any standard sick to the core, morally and ethically repulsive and by and large sanctioned or condoned by the state in which Sharia law is enshrined.

You say,

"But when it goes to empowered people there is no difference among sheriff arpaio, judge john doe and any ayatollah, they all pursue the same, votes, power and self serving."

I don't see the connection at all!
I was talking about an ideology or religious indoctrination that compels a father , brother, cousin to bludgeon his own daughter, sister to death!
Sane people can be coerced to do horrendous things if an idea is planted into their heads. Religion, be it Islam, Christianity or any other harebrained scheme of a supernatural god can do that as long as it is implanted at an early age.
And that is why I say that if I had the power I would incarcerate and treat anyone that would teach young children the Bible or the Quran or Tora as the literal truth, like a garden variety child abuser and beat them with a stick every second hour of the day.
statusquo 5/28/2014 10:13:16 PM Report


"And let's not be biased... what about Meriam Ibrahim in Sudan.."

What about her?

I mentioned her in my second paragraph in my very first post.
Bobby Nerves 5/28/2014 10:15:11 PM Report

But, my friend, the world is full of surprises, here next door we have the virgin killer Elliot Rodger, five years preparing for the big day and no one knew anything, till he got the guns and went to town.

Sooooo, you said, and Pamela Anderson said that when she was a little sweet heat, some pervert abused her... and Pamela mom said, I never knew, I never hear, I know nothing... who's Pamela.

Can you imagine what all those news are for the ayatollahs? That's 100% manna falling from the sky and for free.
Bobby Nerves 5/28/2014 10:18:13 PM Report

I told you I don't read the post... you don't remember.

I don't read till you don't get into the thread.

I'm using Agent.

Did you said something about Pamela also?
statusquo 5/28/2014 10:22:42 PM Report


The one with the "rack" or the one with the spectacular cinnamon sticky buns?
Bobby Nerves 5/28/2014 10:30:17 PM Report

You have to put your passions aside.

Life is even more precious than freedom, cause while alive, you will always have a chance to fight for freedom, and in my conception no one has the right to end another human life, nor a criminal neither a non criminal. Ending a life for action or inaction is against the natural law, that's why I said to you in the beginning that there is no difference among all the cases.

The natural law is well above the law of God, that's what you are born with.
Bobby Nerves 5/28/2014 10:35:06 PM Report

Certain things are hard for your to understand, probably because I'm a bit radical, or we kill everyone or keep everyone alive.

But we can't go discriminating, because that's the source of all corruption, we start with the religious, but some are more religious than others... or some have more gold than others, then we have to pick which one will be executed, the one with the gold or the one without... Let the festivities start, bring in the cheese and the wine and when all are heavy with food and the alcohol does it work, then we'll have a much easier job.
IRONICAL MAN 5/28/2014 11:13:41 PM Report

hey spellchecker-laureate, you meant to use "whether" up there
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