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View Room Comments for Monday, May. 26 2014

Monday, May 26, 2014   by: The Soap BoxWelcome to the View Room. This editorial feature is for you to post comments. To comment on a specific news story please post your comment directly under the news story.
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irishfey 5/26/2014 5:51:24 AM Report

Good Morning folks... STATS.. That was a great post last night!.. Would you be willing to put the name of your business on here, some know you already, but i would understand if you didn't want to. You sound like an honest person to deal with and I may need someone like you if a problem arose with my car. Hubby is ok at a few things, but sometimes uses pieces of tin and duck tape for some jobs. ,lol.. My Brother is also in your field and just retired from the ACR.. but he dosn't have a garage with a hoist that some work requires. I might need someone like you that would give me an honest opinion so I wouldn't be throwing $$ out the window if the car was not worth the $$ spent.... Pay no attention to Powerwise, he has no idea of what he speaks.......
irishfey 5/26/2014 6:15:13 AM Report

STATS again... Many years back I had an excellent Mechanic, name was Larry Forb**, you might have known him. He took care of the old clunker I had and tried his best at keeping it on the road for me, sometimes at no cost. One day I had another problem and he finally tried to explain the cars function to me. He said..."" a car has three dipsticks, one for the oil and one for the transmission fluid. I asked where the third one was and he just looked at me and smiled "".. My car went to the scrapyard that day ,lol.. He did find me another one though. Larry left town years ago and is most likely retired by now......
Spellchecker 5/26/2014 7:06:42 AM Report


Roland Rolly

rhyme, their (as in 'past their noses'), know (as in 'who you know'), shoo-in

glorified, corporate, comparable

Bobby Nerves

Wild Turkey
convenience, phenomenon

weren't, commas, refer

fluctuating, horrendous, proverbial, Manitoulin, incumbents, whining

articles, opinion, truly, forego, alcohol, allowed (as in 'should be allowed')

cream (as in 'cream cheese')


That's enough spellchecking for a while folks. It's gardening and sailing season. See you in the fall for the resumption of my free educational service.
Bobby Nerves 5/26/2014 8:07:34 AM Report

Try reading this, to improve your literacy:


Database: PsycARTICLES
Social determinants of alcohol consumption: The effects of social interaction and model status on the self-administration of alcohol.
Collins, R. Lorraine; Parks, George A.; Marlatt, G. Alan
Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology, Vol 53(2), Apr 1985, 189-200. doi: 10.1037/0022-006X.53.2.189


Conducted 2 studies with 106 male undergraduates to assess variables related to the social determinants of alcohol consumption. In Study 1, 51 moderate- and heavy-drinking Ss were paired with confederates who behaved in a sociable or unsociable manner while modeling either light or heavy consumption during a 30-min drinking period in a simulated cocktail lounge. It was found that modeling occurred in the sociable conditions but not in the unsociable conditions, where Ss tended to drink heavily. In Study 2, 54 Ss were exposed to 1 of 3 social status conditions crossed with light vs heavy consumption in a 40-min drinking period in the same setting. Results indicate a modeling effect in all social status conditions. Findings support the existence of a modeling effect that can be disrupted by a lack of rapport between drinking partners. Implications for this etiology of problem drinking are considered that are based on the notion that increased alcohol consumption may serve as a strategy for coping with aversive social interactions. (22 ref) (PsycINFO Database Record (c) 2012 APA, all rights reserved)

End Quote.

Further, your knowledge of English is about kindergarten level, as you missed at least one word which is at academic level, of course you can get there.

Ignorant with false pretensions.
Zing 5/26/2014 8:13:24 AM Report

Thanks for your free service Spelly and the (*).
Bobby Nerves 5/26/2014 8:36:23 AM Report

@Sootoday Moderator:

Reading messages from people with good command of the language, therefore considered of superior quality, I start to fear we are in the wrong community.

Example from yesterday:
Powerwise 5/25/2014 7:26:03 PM Report

i made an excellent feces after eat grilled porkchop , the day was on par , now i will take myself to mac donald for a soft serve cone,

If anyone can find a plausible explanation for such a message, probably that someone is as sick as the author of the message itself.

Wild Turkey 5/26/2014 8:47:09 AM Report

Thanks, Spellchecker, for all you do.
Have a great summer.(Watch out for those pesky racoons,they will wreck your garden.)
BIG BROTHER 5/26/2014 9:02:29 AM Report

Great post and absolutely true. Most of us take our cars for granted, until they don't work for us. At those times, we all wish we had an expert in our corner, looking after the beast, ensuring safe, reliable, operation of the vehicle.

The savings at Walmart only add credence to the old adage....'you get what you pay for'.
theprotector 5/26/2014 9:03:13 AM Report

Well I am getting better spelly
Bobby Nerves 5/26/2014 9:09:41 AM Report

Having Walmart servicing your car is as Spellchecker counting the words in this blog.

Both go for a service and economy.

Both are good at it.

Neither Walmart nor Spellchecker where created for the end you attribute to them.

That's if you are interested in your car to have always the right level of fluids and your spelling never falls below kindergarten levels.

Just Curious 5/26/2014 9:14:29 AM Report

Bobby, somebody urinate in your porridge this morning?? Spelly does that for the heck of it, it doesn't really require a rude come-back. His spell-checking has certainly helped me and several others out. You start picking on people for the consumption of alcohol you will have to take on probably 90% of the area.. Prohibition went out a long time ago..:).
Zing 5/26/2014 9:48:27 AM Report

Bobby Nerves

What is the point of your last comment?
bounder 5/26/2014 9:52:56 AM Report

Seems copy and paste is on the rise,no more selfies.
BIG BROTHER 5/26/2014 10:52:34 AM Report

Bobby wasn't picking on Spelly or anyone. His analogy was obvious, to me.

mallet 5/26/2014 11:01:20 AM Report


Not defending my mistakes but "Whinging" is the new "IN" word for whining in the UK, do not ask me why, I have no idea. so you can cross that one off, please..

Status Quo..

I got your message and I do agree, it is something that a lot of people do not or do not want to grasp or understand. However, there are certain things that are much cheaper in the U S of A, gasoline being one and years ago I followed a tanker truck (tractor trailer and pup) across the bridge after filling the old Jiffy car wash on Bay and into the shell station as you come off the bridge, the difference wasn't that much in those days just the exchange rate and a few cents. Personally I have not shopped over the river for a few years now, after a bad experience with a business over there, and I certainly would not drive from my home to get gas over there, for the mileage and tolls would be more than I would save, and even when I come to town, I want to get home not spend another couple of hours buggering about in the traffic and people. And please don't tell me about the bridge cam, for by the time I get there it may, probably, all changed and there is a line up...
flyhawk25 5/26/2014 11:55:04 AM Report

I was away for the weekend.
I'm surprised that more people are not all over Hudak's 'million jobs' pledge.
Currently Ontario has 66,000 unemployed.
If he is waiting for 'attrition' and then more McJobs he'll need to increase immigration - significantly. That will create a whole new pile of problems.
Sounds like addition by subtraction.
Prometheus 5/26/2014 12:26:12 PM Report

For Flyhawk

I think you slipped a decimal point, amongst other things. According to Stats Can the number for Ontario in April 2014 is 547,000 with an a rate of 63%. This would bring unemployment closer to 900,000.
Just Curious 5/26/2014 12:30:21 PM Report

Big Bro, go back and read Bobby's 8:07:34 post. That was a deliberate slam at Spelly again. I don't know what Bobby's reason to dislike Spelly is but he needs to stop making personal attacks. What one chooses to do with their own time and money is their own business. Spellcheckers correction service is just done tongue in cheek, not to alienate anyone, there is no reason to take it personally...
BIG BROTHER 5/26/2014 12:35:23 PM Report

I never made the connection between Bobby and Spelly JC. I thought you were referring to his later post.

There is no place for personal attacks on this're right there.

Familiarity breeds contempt!!!
flyhawk25 5/26/2014 1:36:27 PM Report

Prometheus...somebody slipped something. I thought that was correct.
Powerwise 5/26/2014 2:51:21 PM Report

SOCIAL DETERMINANTS, "pee in the pool", metaphorical analogy?
irishfey 5/26/2014 3:09:04 PM Report

J.C... Good posts!!!!.. You too Pro..... I'm still waiting on a post reguarding my "" dipstick"" post from Stats.. I hope he's in a good mood ,lol
flyhawk25 5/26/2014 3:21:42 PM Report

I just checked the Stats Can numbers.Currently there are @66,000 unemployed.That means Hudak would have to create over 900,00 jobs.
Since child labor is against the law where will he get the people to employ if he does not dump a pile of those currently employed?
Mr. Poster 5/26/2014 3:34:24 PM Report

I think many are missing an important point Hudak made. He claims he will create a million jobs OVER THE TIME PERIOD FROM NOW UNTIL 2022.
Hudak is just plain scary. Horwth is wishy washy...promising the moon since she is in no danger of forming a government.
Wynne seems the most credible...having inherited a terrible mess from McGuilty. She honestly seems prepared to clean up the mess.I think we have to get past the gas plant scandal. Yacking about it will do no is in the past and no one is going to pay back any monies.I am going with the Liberals this time.
Powerwise 5/26/2014 3:47:45 PM Report

hudak gets my vote
Snobank 5/26/2014 4:03:24 PM Report

Mr. Poster, I agree.
Prometheus 5/26/2014 4:06:23 PM Report


I guess we will have to agree to disagree. Not necessarily a bad thing.

We are obviously using different sources. I am citing from this page.

Province Ontario (all figures in thousands) April 2014

Population 11,313.9
Labour force 7,475.5
Employment 6,919.9
Unemployment 555.6
Participation rate percent 66.1
Unemployment rate 7.4
Employment rate 61.2
Wild Turkey 5/26/2014 4:16:43 PM Report

Promethius----thanks for all those figures----I tried to figure it all out by subtracting seniors, under 20s, and other guessed at data.Then I peeked in here, and you answered all the unknowns without me having to ask!!!Thanks again.
realitycheck 5/26/2014 4:53:39 PM Report

flyhawk's figures don't make sense but I think the problem is that he copied them down wrong and didn't read what he wrote. He usually comes through with an update when he screws up so one should come shortly.
steelworker 5/26/2014 6:08:25 PM Report

Not to worry fly; there is a huge unemployed labour force just chomping at the bit to work. This will probably decrease welfare and other payments to ne'er-do-wells that should be working but like collecting benefits at the taxpayers expense.
flyhawk25 5/26/2014 6:12:48 PM Report

I was wrong. Apparently math is not my strong suit.
I dropped a zero.
So there are 600K unemployed.That means in 8 years Hudak plans to bring the employment rate up 1M.
Having said that I see no credible plan to make that happen.
Nor have I read of any study suggesting it will happen.
But if he does God bless him.It seems possible but I would like to know more details.
steelworker 5/26/2014 6:51:38 PM Report

Just let the Cons win an election and the Ring of Fire will be a better deal than Fort McMurray.
David Poluck 5/26/2014 7:19:52 PM Report

Turks and Caicos an 11th Canadian province?

OTTAWA - The premier of Turks and Caicos is leaving the door open to the prospect of his country joining Canada, even though he has opposed the idea in the past.

But Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird suggested Monday that Canadians are dreaming if they think they'll have a province in the Caribbean any time soon.

Turks and Caicos Premier Rufus Ewing met Prime Minister Stephen Harper in Ottawa, where he says the two leaders spoke about exploring a more formal relationship.

Ewing described the meeting as a "courtship," but said the pair did not discuss the possibility of Turks and Caicos becoming Canada's 11th province.

Wonder what Justin has to say about this??
Snobank 5/26/2014 7:30:49 PM Report

Wouldn't it be great? The Turks and Caicos could be Canada's Hawaii. I bet old Justy would go for it. First candidate to bring the tropics to Canada has my vote.
Snobank 5/26/2014 7:38:35 PM Report

Would we be able to drive to the Turks and Caicos? If we would agree to give up our wish for a double lane highway between Sudbury and the Sault perhaps the money could be used to build a long bring to the T&C?
Snobank 5/26/2014 7:41:17 PM Report

One problem I see. There are a lot of Turks but they can be very friendly. The Caicos can be a very mean bunch. We'd probably have to adopt Caico as our third official language. Caico classes would cecome mandatory in our schools.
Snobank 5/26/2014 7:42:59 PM Report

Maybe we could let the Turks in and make those mangy Caicos apply for visas lile the war-mongering Mexicans?
Snobank 5/26/2014 7:44:36 PM Report

You all know what those Caicos dress like. Next thing you know one will join the mounties and make Caico clothers part of the mountie unifrom.
steelworker 5/26/2014 7:45:23 PM Report

As long as we don't get any people from that bastion of terrorism: Iceland.
Snobank 5/26/2014 7:45:54 PM Report

I've been told the Caicos ride goats. Can you imaine the Mounties' Miusical Ride with a few goats and Caicos mixed in?
Snobank 5/26/2014 7:48:06 PM Report

If the Caicos go to school they'll probably want to bring back games like tag, red rover, British Bulldogs, slides and other dangerous recess activities. What will happen to our children?
Snobank 5/26/2014 7:49:55 PM Report

Don't those Caicos know we were here first? They'll just have to adapt to our ways just the way we did with the Inuit and the ... oh wait, forget the whole thing.
lookaround 5/26/2014 8:02:22 PM Report

Hudak will never get in just look at the gibberish he puts forth without any substantial data to back anything he blurts out. thumbs down and A NO VOTE for YOU,
Mr. Poster 5/26/2014 8:11:16 PM Report

I saw Wynne and Orazietti standing outside the Holiday Express on Bay Street...surrounded by party faithful.I never heard any announcement on her visiting the Soo.
Snobank 5/26/2014 8:25:56 PM Report

Steelworker, don't worry about Iceland. As soon as those vikings started to paddle that island over here it would melt. We'd probably have to pull them from the sea with our fishing trawlers.

If the bridge to the Turks and Caicos is built by then the Icelanders can crawl up the sides and save themselves.
Bobby Nerves 5/26/2014 8:26:10 PM Report

Just a plain 2 + 2:

10 years = 120 months

To achieve one million jobs in ten years, Ontario must create ten thousand jobs every month.

That's not achievable, even with a substantial tax reduction, free land for the industry, cuts to corporate tax and anything you can imagine that can be offered to investors.

Manufacturing jobs suffered a substantial loss in the last few years.

I find much more realistic and attractive the offer of a billion dollars investment for the Ring of Fire, as it will create more middle range jobs (above 30.000 to a top of 60.000) which is the biggest loss in the last decade.

In 2013 Canada created 99.000 new positions as a whole, or 8.900 jobs monthly average. Yes, I know we should look forward, but we have to be also, realistic and Mr. Hudak and his party seems to be away from reality.

Snobank 5/26/2014 8:44:02 PM Report

All we have to do to solve the economic and unemployment problems in Canada is declare war on the Turks and Caicos. Bingo, our industryswould begin supplying the war machine and we would need an unending supply of bodies for the frontlines. Problems all solved. Maybe that is the Conservative plan?

If you don't like that, we could build that darned bridge to the Turks and Caicos they keep promising us. That
Bobby Nerves 5/26/2014 9:03:40 PM Report

Fly, sometimes we have to work with small numbers, then things are much easier to understand.
In the roofing industry, as numbers are tiresome sometimes, everything is reduced to squares.

When you have a roof 50 x 30 plus another section of 120 x 50 plus another of 50 x 30 then you get to 1500 + 6000 + 1500 = 9000.

One square equals 100 sq' and applying the reduction you can find yourself with a much easily manageable number, you are facing a 90 squares roofing.

At the helm of the propaganda machine you have experts in fooling people with tricks and if you are confused, imagine what could happen with those that on top of the confusion, are convinced that theirs is the best plan.
steelworker 5/26/2014 9:10:07 PM Report

Mr. Poster: did they look like two hookers at a funeral?
Mr. Poster 5/26/2014 9:12:34 PM Report

Not sure steelworker...they were looking longingly at the Lottery Building.
mallet 5/26/2014 9:13:33 PM Report

Bobby N...

I think we are all aware that election promises and platforms are mirages that only the most political foolish believe. I know that you as a business person could not operate as the government does, their predictions being based on wishes not facts. I know what people are saying that you have to spend money to accumulate, but governments have been trying that for years, which is why there is a debt of some $280 odd billions and growing. I do not know why Hudak came out and said he would lose 100,000 jobs but create a million, if he had said he would trim the fat from government and get half a million jobs I think he would have done better, but I don't write his speeches or make up his platform. I M H O none of them make any real sense, they are promising the moon and stars and you all know this is not possible. I have not heard of any of the Algoma-Manitoulin candidates coming through this area yet, there have been a few robocalls from polls but I just hangup on them. I have seen a few signs for Mike Mantha, but not one for any other candidate, maybe they just don't care, and have conceded the election to the NDP...

Powerwise 5/26/2014 9:27:46 PM Report

i eated wieners from walmart 2nite and the feces i make was mediocre, mucho painful on exit ha i will have t try a stool softner
Snobank 5/26/2014 10:01:02 PM Report

This guy must have a direct bridge from his room in his mother's basement to the Virgin Islands in his closet.
djjazz09 5/26/2014 10:01:08 PM Report

pretty gross there powerwise...TMI
steelworker 5/26/2014 10:05:53 PM Report

Mr. Poster: did they take a tour of our "permanent" casino? Wynne was probably trying to figure out how the Hell the OLC ended up in the Sault and if she could trade it for a gas plant.
Powerwise 5/26/2014 10:07:34 PM Report

h a .. well ywhan you get to be my age you just say things haha forgive me

(i am 11 years old fyi)
steelworker 5/27/2014 4:57:46 AM Report

...return of the Grump?
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