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View Room Comments for Sunday, May. 25 2014

Sunday, May 25, 2014   by: The Soap BoxWelcome to the View Room. This editorial feature is for you to post comments. To comment on a specific news story please post your comment directly under the news story.
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soowat 5/25/2014 6:54:56 AM Report

Off to Sudbury today for a medical appt at 8:00 am tomorrow. Success in Sudbury will result in 5 days in Toronto to get the surgery done, Three of those days will be in a motel.What's irritating about that is the procedure is available in Sault Michigan. Having it done there would be of great benefit to the recovery. Ah, to be wealthy enough to be able to by-pass OHIP
Of course it also raises the question as to why a community of 75,000 doesn't have the same medical services as a community of 15,000.
bounder 5/25/2014 7:17:47 AM Report

Good day all, I would like to add a few comments on how spending your own hard earned money is your right and no one else. After paying 40 percent tax on earnings I'm required to further pay another 13 percent to spend it, making my tax rate better than 50 percent.Now why should the government make more on my hard earned dollars than me the guy making it.
So in all honesty, Michigan is way lower around 5 percent sales tax, saving me 7 percent when I spend it , and I bought a whole bunch when the bucks was at par.
bounder 5/25/2014 7:20:22 AM Report

Soowat, have a safe trip, Blind river at the new Tim Hortons, really nice view and a good break.
TFinn 5/25/2014 8:01:12 AM Report

Haven't been Blind River way in a while Timmies in a new location or is it newly renovated ..?
bounder 5/25/2014 8:05:44 AM Report

The old parking area is now the new Tim Horton and vice versa parking.
TFinn 5/25/2014 8:25:53 AM Report

Thanx ....gotta make a trip soon ...nice break go'in East
TFinn 5/25/2014 8:36:29 AM Report

mallet 5/24/2014 10:09:28 PM

I agree with you your post from last night ......I won't go out of my way to shop the US ...but if I travel over I will shop ...furthermore there is not one person posting on this site that hasn't bought or shopped in the US at one time or another.

Another way I look at it ..most of products sold from the Canadian stores come from other countries in the first place even if you shop Canada exclusively you are more than likely shopping the world ..with all the Canadian taxes and tariffs attached...just the way it is ..! Just saying ..!
Mr. Poster 5/25/2014 10:08:21 AM Report

Just got back from soo mich...gas $3,86...eggs $1.15..boneless skinless chicken breasts $1.99 pound....made my left over money after taxes stretch a little bit.
Bobby Nerves 5/25/2014 10:23:55 AM Report

What a sad distance between the first post of the day and the last one I read... and of course in between the job creation dollars at work.

Congratulation Mr. Post, way to go.

Soowat, all the best with the procedure, may God illuminate the brain and hands that perform it.

A lot of things in life are bad, but always serve to a purpose, avoid other that could be worst.
statusquo 5/25/2014 10:32:46 AM Report

Mr Poster,

Imagine for a second if everybody thought like you. And imagine there was no border and a six lane highway across the ditch.
But the economic realities, taxation and regulations remained as they are between the U.S and Canada.
Sault Ontario would cease to exist!

Furthermore, every penny that flows across the ditch is a penny that your friends, family, your kids friends that have businesses and jobs on our side of the river will not get in their paycheck and reduces the already thin margins on the retail sector, and hence our kids will have to move out from here as job prospects are slim, the tax revenues is a snowball effect affecting a wide range of the local economy.
For what?.....There are lots of people in Sudbury, or Wawa or Thunder Bay in your very same economic situation, some even worse off I am sure, but they do not have the "luxury" to hop across the river and "save" a few dollars and yet, somehow they manage.
Have you got any sense of community at all?
It is true as TFinn was saying that almost everything we buy, here or across the river is more than likely imported from overseas. It's called globalization, and it is not good.
And it is true that even if we wouldn't shop across the river the internet is now rapidly eroding the brick and mortar retail outlets.
I cannot offer solutions but I shall refuse to undermine my community where I have family, friends and people I interact with and partake in this never ending chase for the lowest possible price regardless of the long term consequences it entails.
You do what you think you have to do. I shall not discuss this any further as the range of excuses people have to justify their actions seems to be endless.
Enjoy your omelet.
Mr. Poster 5/25/2014 10:54:22 AM Report

I pay my share of taxes. The little bit that is left I feel I can spend wherever I want.
mallet 5/25/2014 11:11:17 AM Report

Status Quo...

Do not for one second think that people do not understand what you are saying regarding support for our local businesses, however can you put your hand on your heart and say that if the difference on dealer parts between Sadlers and Prouses was a fraction of the cost at Sadlers, you would not want to pass that on to your customer?? Some posters say it is greedy to want to stretch their disposable dollar, but when you cannot raise your income, like you by charging more, or the governments, and that's all of them, by raising taxes, what are you to do? I know, you can go without, and I would say that is very noble of you, rather silly, but noble!! Oh yeah, who was it who said "a penny saved is a penny earned", gotta be a yank...
AlwaysAWinner 5/25/2014 12:17:03 PM Report

>"however can you put your hand on your heart and say that if the difference on dealer parts between Sadlers and Prouses was a fraction of the cost at Sadlers, you would not want to pass that on to your customer??" don't run a business to tell people where the lowest price is, you run a business to make money. are you seriously asking why businesses don't throw away money? yeah lets start pointing fingers and saying "why didn't you tell me this was cheaper somewhere else".

"Some posters say it is greedy to want to stretch their disposable dollar, but when you cannot raise your income, like you by charging more, or the governments, and that's all of them, by raising taxes, what are you to do?"

it's sad people here just want to squat a job for 25 years. they never want to advance themselves or be successful, they just want more money. this town is where dreams go to die. 

also it's called problem solving. it's NEVER a situation where someones personal finances are in order, and suddenly they literally have zero money to accommodate for their necessities. that's never ever the case, it's greed. it's always has and always will be. people feed themselves and their kids with low quality food just to save money. they COULD be eating properly and spending more, but why think ahead? why worry about your health? they don't, and they rather save a dollar on creme cheese than put quality food inside of them. you are what you eat. 

to blame anyone but the buyers is stupid. it's not the governments fault, it's not the farmers fault, it's not anyone's fault but their own. 
irishfey 5/25/2014 12:17:21 PM Report

soowat... Prayers sent for you and your surgery... I agree with Poster!! I don't have a passport yet but am getting one soon.... Try doing your grocery shopping at the stores down this way!!! You would starve! I don't see the need for their prices to be 3$$ above the Sault price!.. And I don't need to hear that " small community" crap, food is food!.....
AlwaysAWinner 5/25/2014 12:22:52 PM Report

try shopping around lol. its not that bad. we don't have Nunavut prices for food. people are greedy babies
AlwaysAWinner 5/25/2014 12:25:01 PM Report

the cost of milk and eggs and food here isn't a problem. you only think it is because you see a different country with different prices, and fail to understand how a business or economy works. you people are the worst
mvnnth 5/25/2014 12:29:35 PM Report

From yesterday the following:

"rockbanger 5/24/2014 4:05:43 PMReport

Bringing back Milk Products From US:

Did you know there is a $20 limit on milk products and the Canadian Border Police can charge duty on anything thereafter?"

There could be a couple of things at play in this situation but, before I get too excited, I would ask this poster to provide a link that would support this $20 business. I can't find anything in the CBS website. I am assuming that you know that you are not permitted to bring anything into Canada, without paying duty, unless you have been away for 24 hours. Add to that the fact that Canadian dairy and poultry products are protected by massive tariff walls and you may be on the right track to be able to explain the inexplicable.
irishfey 5/25/2014 12:38:39 PM Report

We are planting a big garden and i will be puttung a cow and chickens in the garage... problem solved!!! ,lol
Bobby Nerves 5/25/2014 12:45:06 PM Report

I also disagree in many decisions.

The federales refused all over the past decade to have a sincere conversation about Pensions.

But we should be fair when criticizing someone else decision of stretching their buying dollars.

Local milk sales at 3.95 and only take few days to get spoiled. Milk from the other side may have a different treatment and last longer, and goes for 2.80 + 10% exchange. Eggs the same, butter, cheese, potatoes, onions, garlic and the list goes on.

Further, you should also have an opinion regarding those dirty american dollars that the tourism bring in Canada when our neighbors visit us with those hinged RV buses and a fat wallet to spend.

There are few items that can't be replaced, one is service, experience and trust and people do no change that, but milk is a subsidized market and it's subsidized with taxpayers dollars.

Saputo benefited from it and if you google a bit you'll find that Saputo made few wrong decisions also (Turrisi-Rizzuto and more).
bounder 5/25/2014 12:45:52 PM Report

I for don't understand why at our famous hardware store that light bulbs for a truck, car,motor vehicle you pay over $50 plus tax)you can get the exact same item on line and it,s not a knock off same company, and numbers along with the package for $25 bucks, now what would you do? It's not just a few bucks but a whole double the price item.If you want to spend here be my guest,I have no problem with that.
Zing 5/25/2014 12:48:56 PM Report


Here is a link to what you can import re:dairy

Dairy products (e.g.: cheese, milk, yogurt, butter)

up to 20 kilograms per person with a value of $20 or less
mallet 5/25/2014 1:26:09 PM Report


Bovine excretia..

I would say a lot more than half the people shop around for the best deals. I know for a fact that Status Quo is a very honest person when it comes to auto repairs, but why would anyone want to pay more for anything.. As for staying in a job for 25 years, those jobs today only belong to the government and if one politician has his way and keeps his promises that won't be the case anymore either, jobs for life have gone, I think for good, unless you own your own business. I will agree to some extent with the "Greed" but it only because of the services you want the government to provide for you for FREE, which means they have to tax you to get the money to pay for those free services, the more services you want the more tax you have to pay and thus less disposable income you have. Then we come to the retired persons on pension, our pensions do not increase like gas prices or meat prices or any other price increases, remember your wage increase is my price increase. The latest CPI rate was 2%, I did not get a 2% increase on my pensions, and I doubt anybody else did either, and I cannot work an overtime shift to make up some of the difference.. I think it is time you took a real look at life beyond your own, there are people out there who have very little left after paying rent, utilities and food and clothing...
mvnnth 5/25/2014 1:33:41 PM Report

Got it, thanks Zing.

We live in the US for a few months each year and, in our experience, we haven't found any cheese that I would carry across the street let alone our international border. IMO the 2 yr. old President's Choice cheddar is very hard to beat. The premium priced cheddars in the US just don't cut it. Sorry about that. LOL

Just to add one thing, if they could find a way to stop us from gassing up across the ditch, that alone would go a long way to putting a damper on the cross border shopping problem. How about a $25 surcharge for same day bridge crossings or weighing the vehicles and charging $5.00 lb. on the difference. We would need the Americans help with that and that isn't likely. Interesting problem though.
Just Curious 5/25/2014 1:49:21 PM Report

My two cents(5 cents now, I guess)I haven't shopped over the river for 25 yrs at least and can't now even if I wanted too. I never felt comfortable in a land when half the people you meet might have a gun in their pocket. I live on OAS and CPP, which is cut by about 20% at the moment due to a mistake on the governments part, and I pay my bills and eat well and drink when I feel like it and usually have a buck or two left at the end of the month. I do all that without doing without much of anything. Gave up driving and owning a vehicle for a couple of reasons but financial was the biggest one. You can walk anywhere in this town in 30 minutes or less and be a lot healthier for it. What little you can save buying over the river just doesn't make it worthwhile ,in my opinion.. And bounder, what kind of car do you have that takes 50 dollar headlights? I'd be thinking about trading that baby in, was I you.
Mr. Poster 5/25/2014 2:39:15 PM Report

wow...7 months from today is Christmas Day....enjoy the heat.
bounder 5/25/2014 3:09:29 PM Report

Just C. It's not the vehicle that matters but the type of bulb that's required,if you want I could probably give you the type and number and check it out yourself.another few deals,a friend with a 2012 truck broke a mirroir off her truck, dealer first price $800 to r&r whoa she said offered a new deal $600 same job, she went on line and got a better deal, better mirrior and extendable for trailer towing $300 approximately, it's just not a few bucks but a whole lot of dollars.
TFinn 5/25/2014 3:11:48 PM Report

It’s not greed for myself to shop on occasion over the river or down in the US ..many a times I have tried to purchase something I needed from here, and many a times it wasn’t available or it would take an unprecedented amount time to bring it in, and at a high cost plus extra shipping charges of fees because we are considered remote to some companies, figure that one out. The selection is more plentiful for a lot of items on the US side and furthermore people are generally very pleasant over the border when dealing with you as well. I am a senior so it’s by experience when I say these things. Canada has to fix there taxation and tariff formulas in order for companies to get merchandise at a reasonable cost and hopefully will pass that along to the consumer, that’s where it has to start if you want more better selections and at a lower cost. But over many years on being on this earth I have found that the stores over on our side price the merchandise high, even if they get a break when they buy it, …to me that is greedy, therefore you will have people seeking lower cost merchandise …and yes, over the river. That is reality the consumer is not always the blame, people are human and like to see a savings. Just my opinion..!!
Just Curious 5/25/2014 3:12:15 PM Report

Just a comment on the comment that Always made about shopping around. Was just at Walmart(sorry, Status) and they had corn on the cob on at 67cents per cob..No frills has corn on the cob on for 10 cobs for $2.00. Walmart price matches so will go back with the No Frills flyer tomorrow. THAT is a crazy difference in price...:).
bounder 5/25/2014 3:13:16 PM Report

JC and should mention that was the price for 2 of them,scary now no?all power to was talking about one.
TFinn 5/25/2014 3:14:33 PM Report

ooops "better" ...not "more better" ..where's the grammar police when you need'um
lookaround 5/25/2014 4:23:13 PM Report

Yes well Status Quo I am a liberal but also someone trying hard to keep the money I have to work for. I spend all my grocery money in Canada but when a vet requires I pay 125 (need an appointment) (more money) for advantage plus and I can get it for 60 dollars over the counter in the US you have to be brain dead to be victim to such schemes Liberal or not. I also need Pilosec but need a prescription(100 dollars) here and over the counter in Michigan (40 dollars). There is being taken advantage of and us taking advantage of a deal. Not too hard to choose.
jonesur 5/25/2014 6:14:22 PM Report

I got an oil change(with premium oil), vacuum, and full fluid top up at American Walmart for under $40 Cdn. Can I visit you, SQ for a similar deal?
lookaround 5/25/2014 6:36:58 PM Report

Good deal Honda wants 65.00. I pay that and in Canada along with gas and gas tax and 30 percent income tax, 3, 000 municipal tax and add that to 13% on everything I buy. Enough. So if I want a tad more for my hard earned dollar who should deny me this?
No one because I pay more than my fair share. I have never ever taken a dime from the government,
Powerwise 5/25/2014 7:26:03 PM Report

i made an excellent feces after eat grilled porkchop , the day was on par , now i will take myself to mac donald for a soft serve cone,
jonesur 5/25/2014 8:05:29 PM Report

Quote from cellar dwelling responder to a news story:

freedom1 5/25/2014 1:28:06 PMReport
If all the money we spend on the military industrial complex was spent on health care, housing and feeding our brothers and sisters what a nice place this would be.
over 2000 years ago a wise man gave us 10 things that we should not do. One of which was "thou shalt not kill". Not only are we disobeying, we are training people to be really good at it. Yet these christian hypocrites support killing.

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one.-
--John Lennon

If you actually took the time or responsibility to care for yourself, you wouldn't require the government to feed and house you.

As for your last paragraph, "A bullet well spent"
BIG BROTHER 5/25/2014 9:05:31 PM Report

You are a whack job sicko!!
lookaround 5/25/2014 9:09:26 PM Report

BB I was going to comment but that would justify this child's existence.
Bobby Nerves 5/25/2014 9:47:09 PM Report

And the one before?

steelworker 5/25/2014 10:09:57 PM Report

Some people just love that good old-fashioned liberal cradle to grave mollycoddling with no responsibilities.
statusquo 5/25/2014 10:15:04 PM Report

I was going to email this privately to "mallet " as I didn't want to ruffle any feathers in here as lately this site has deteriorated into the "lollipop" play ground as "steelworker" so aptly put it .....

But I decided and I said to myself....Self !...go public...and so it goes....


I just saw what you posted to me in regards to crossborder shopping.

I cannot post the truth on the open forum due to obvious reasons. Lately the forum has descended into an amalgamation of idiots.(see among others "jonesur")
What can I possibly respond to an idiot like that?

You and I know what it costs to run an automotive shop. The costs are real and scary.

My small, two bay shop MUST generate $6000.00 each and every month to just cover all costs, to keep the doors open as it were. That is insurance, taxes , wages, various fees, tooling, environmental fees, certifications, ongoing training and upgrades. That is $ 300.00 dollars a day ( on a calculation of a 20 day month) derived from parts profit and billed labour.

And that is below average for shops in this city. You have to multiply that figure by the number of bays and employees.

Anything above that is profit or, in other words my wage, retirement savings, health insurance, WSIB , my daughters education and various other items of life's demands.

Cross border shoppers take that away from me. Some idiot said he can get an oil change and vacuum of his car at Walmart across the river for 40 bucks and he has the gall to ask me if I could do the same.

Of course I cannot. My COST for premium oil (synthetic) would by itself be almost 40 bucks!

The big picture is you want to establish a relationship with your mechanic so he can look after you and your car in a reasonable way and keep that clunker safe and reliable for a prolonged period of time?

How many times have I scanned a check engine light (with my out of three $5000.00 scanners and $1500.00 per year per scanner upgrades) for free for a repeat customer?

How many times have I road tested a car, listened to it on the hoist for an intermittent noise for free?

How many times have I told a customer that he really doesn't need an expensive flush or that his check engine light will not hurt his car in any way?

How many times have I cleaned a mass air flow meter for a fraction of what he was told at the dealership?

How many times have I done a "scheduled" manufacturer mandated maintenance schedule for a tenth of what the dealers demand?

How many times have I refused to proceed with an expensive repair if I deemed the vehicle to be "palliative" .

How many times have I put a vehicle on the hoist and refused to proceed with a mechanical safety inspection because the vehicle was a piece of shit?

An oil change is a chance for your trusted mechanic that knows your car, has worked on your car and knows your driving habits to give it a quick visual once over....a certified mechanic that is...not some minimum wage paid ,garden variety highschool dropout that may double-gasket the filter or overtightens the drain pug so next time you will need a new oil pan.

Or the ubiquitous warning label about coming back and re torquing the wheels... total bullshit and "cover my ass" policy, totally redundant if the wheels were torqued properly and manually the first time to begin with, except for a notable exception for Ford products of a certain production date with the 14 millimeter washer lug nut design.

It is in my best interest to not disappoint a customer. They all are my boss!

They want to feel safe in their cars and be told the truth and treated fairly and with a reasonable assurance of expertise.

Do I want to use all of my expensive diagnostic tools and charge for a two hour diagnostic procedure if I know, through known pattern failures for a particular make and model what the culprit is more than likely a cheap sensor that costs less than the time required to diagnose it?
If I am wrong you got a new , failure prone sensor and I can eliminate that and give you a break on further diagnostic time...

I have been in this field far too long to argue with people that think that the only criteria to pick a mechanic is price.

Premium oil? How do you know? Are all premium oils created equal? Is an expensive synthetic oil even recommended for your particular make or model?

Are people aware that for certain engines there are only very specific brands and classifications approved by the manufacturers?

Are people aware that most catastrophic engine and transmission failures are caused by using the wrong fluids and generic filters?

Do people realize that 5000k and three month intervals for oil changes are way too frequent and can actually damage the catalytic converter due to evaporation of sulphates in fresh oil?

My advice is pick or stick with a shop with a good reputation, dealership, independent, specialist it doesn't matter.

If you need your car vacuumed then have it detailed at a detailing shop or get off your ass and do it yourself.

But please don't come in here and ask me if I can do it for what Walmart can do it for, as I woudn't even consider buying toilet paper at Wamart let alone have them touch my car.
Powerwise 5/25/2014 10:22:23 PM Report

ya, with psychos like Sir Essaysalot running these ma and pa auto shops (don't buy the "save the small business!!!" rhetoric), i think i'll take my chances at walmart
statusquo 5/25/2014 10:39:11 PM Report


don't you have another bowel movement to attend to?
You seem fascinated with feces.

(smiley face)

statusquo 5/25/2014 10:45:01 PM Report

Powerwise 5/25/2014 7:26:03 PM Report

"i made an excellent feces after eat grilled porkchop , the day was on par , now i will take myself to mac donald for a soft serve cone,"

Your kids( if you have any) must be proud of you!
Surely! Why wouldn't they?

Truly something to look up to.
Your command of the English language is also mesmerizing!
Keep up the good work.

Snobank 5/25/2014 10:52:00 PM Report

Status, thank you for posting. You have really given me a look in to a different perspective.
Just Curious 5/25/2014 11:13:54 PM Report

Totally agree with you, Status, was in business a couple of times myself over the years..(Well, except about buying butt-wipe at Walmart..) Coming over to see you Monday or Tuesday...:).
AlwaysAWinner 5/25/2014 11:16:24 PM Report

yup, good post status

everyone here acts like canada gets everything for the same price as the states, and they just wanna screw over everyone so they jack the prices.

these people never even considered running a business before, because if they did they would understand. cost is cost, if it's made in Canada, that cost is different compared to if it's made from USA

it's completely insane you have to make a post like that just to give a few people a changed perspective. its unreal how greedy and selfish people are in this town, it's not good at all.

things would 100% change if we didn't have Soo Michigan. guaranteed. you're going to have SO MUCH MONEY going just to gas and groceries.

so happy I don't have to deal with that towns issues. people get out and they stay out.
statusquo 5/25/2014 11:21:54 PM Report


Thanks for reading my "elongated" diatribe.

I posted mostly about the misconceptions about technicians and the automotive business rather than the inane statements about getting a "deal" at Walmart on an oil change.
A car is a very expensive necessity. It needs to be looked after by people that know something about the subject. I would never delve into the intricacies of European (German) made vehicles. Great quality but over engineered . I am not qualified to work on them. And I readily admit it. Not tooled for them, not trained on them and not fair to me and the customer for me to "learn" as I go.
Today all vehicles are far better than what they used to be. Some are better than others. Toyota products are very good vehicles. Well engineered and solid.
But even the domestics, i.e Ford and GM, despite the recent recall debacle are good, reliabe vehicles if cared for by qualified technicians. Walmart does not qualify! You must have somebody you trust to look after them.
Stick with your current service provider if you are satisfied and by all means ask him if he keeps up with current technologies and tooling. Most serious shops are more than willing to show you their diagnostic and very expensive toys.
Most mechanics got into this trade for the passion about cars and not for the money. There are some really talented technicians on this side of the border and on the other side, I know a lot of them on a personal level.
Do not fall for the "buy one get the second one for free"...or the 50 something plus "point" inspection with your oil change....or anything "free" doesn;t work that way!
I never have and never will advertise. My business is grounded on word of mouth and results.
I am sure I lost some customers but I am equally sure that I never lied to my customers and I never competed on price.
It's not my game.
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