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View Room Comments for Wednesday, May. 14 2014

Wednesday, May 14, 2014   by: The Soap BoxWelcome to the SooToday.com View Room. This editorial feature is for you to post comments. To comment on a specific news story please post your comment directly under the news story.
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BIG BROTHER 5/14/2014 6:14:32 AM Report

debo,
Your post, late last evening, in reference to climate change and directed at notpc....right on the money!!

Opinions do not stand up so well against facts. Scientists in a quorum are not in the business of creating stories. Their mission is to pursue empirical evidence to either prove or disprove a theory (PERIOD) How or what society does with such evidence is up to society. Sticking one's head up their arse does not address the issue. It merely puts off making tough choices. Like playing peek-a-boo with a toddler; the toddler thinks that if they can't see you, you can't see them.
steelworker 5/14/2014 6:48:10 AM Report

A financial shell game for dummies. Follow the money. The climate change money grubbers just moved the time-line for serious "climate change" 70 years into the future. Al Gore and Suzuki say "Thank you for supporting our bank accounts."
flyhawk25 5/14/2014 6:55:15 AM Report

Well it has begun again.
In one corner we have those of us who believe in scientific data based on empirical research over a broad sample.
In the other corner we have an opinion using terms like financial shell game with an Al Gore reference thrown in.Can a Suzuki Slam be far off?
theprotector 5/14/2014 7:16:09 AM Report

sad really
steelworker 5/14/2014 7:24:42 AM Report

Al Gore is hoping that you are so brain dead that you will keep propping him up. You don't have to sit in the garage with the engine running because the few brain cells you had packed up and left. Get back to me in 70 years and we will compare notes. At least that is what Gore is counting on.
Mr. Poster 5/14/2014 7:28:00 AM Report

I just peek out the window everyday and note that spring is still delayed...that's my empirical evidence...no need for Al Gore in my life.
Pink Peony 5/14/2014 7:36:44 AM Report

Good morning! Looks like it's going to be a nice day. I'm making myself another cup of coffee. Anybody want one?
David Poluck 5/14/2014 7:39:16 AM Report

Good morning...sun ...clouds...full moon and a game seven tonight!
Life is good.
Pink Peony 5/14/2014 7:49:18 AM Report

I wonder what the price difference is between my first cup of coffee, made before 7am (cheapest rate) and my second cup of coffee, made after 7am (highest rate).

I'm looking forward to the election.
Mr. Poster 5/14/2014 7:59:00 AM Report

How come none of the local news media has saw fit to post a picture of Mr. Fremlin ? It would be nice to put a face to a name.
Wild Turkey 5/14/2014 8:09:40 AM Report

Be sure to vote in Sootoday"s online poll (Found in Sootoday Home)
Pink Peony 5/14/2014 8:10:20 AM Report

Mr. Poster, I can't even find a picture of him anywhere online. Even on the Ontario PC Team site, there isn't a picture of him.
http://www.ontariopc.com/team
theprotector 5/14/2014 8:34:27 AM Report

I think anyone that can read journal reports and various papers from the numerous countries including the USA and China see Al Gore as more of a detriment to the issues of climate change. However if his goal was to get the message out and start dialog with the average person he was very much successful.
Wild Turkey 5/14/2014 8:37:15 AM Report

@Pink Peony and Mr. Poster----"google "Rod Fremlin---his photo comes up right beside K. Wynne's?
flyhawk25 5/14/2014 8:39:45 AM Report

I don't know how everyone else feels but I am enjoying the new civil discourse on here.
It is refreshing not to write something and have one point mocked and then put up with the adolescent attacks.
It was easy to get upset and answer back and then kick myself for falling into the trap.
This is not censorship just the rules of engagement.
Lovely.
BIG BROTHER 5/14/2014 8:46:40 AM Report

If it was all about money, Al Gore could make much more of it if he sold out to the oil companies, used his political influence and lobbied on their behalf.

Can't quite figure that out, eh steely. The pittance amount of money he may have made from book sales is chump change, compared to the money he could be making selling Keystone to Obama.
Wild Turkey 5/14/2014 8:49:10 AM Report

@Pink And Mr. Poster------Oops----I don't think the guy beside K.Wynne is Rod Fremlin-----SO where the heck is He?
Claudius 5/14/2014 8:49:41 AM Report

Yes. The moderator is very alert. I think a post has already been pulled! Here one minute , gone the next.
Claudius 5/14/2014 8:54:40 AM Report

Morning Wild Turkey!!

Here is Rod. The link is a .pdf from the March 14 Island Clippings. (Echo Bay?)

www.islandclippings.com/issues/Issue_886.pdf

I think you'll have to copy and paste it into your URL bar.
soowat 5/14/2014 8:54:52 AM Report

Fly:

One of the reasons some folks were removed from this site was they forgot a basic rule.

"It's not what you say, it's the way you say it"
flyhawk25 5/14/2014 8:59:11 AM Report

I was recently chatting with one of the local Liberal insiders who said that David O is not taking anything for granted in this election.
My friend said that he knows that the NDP has a well oiled machine locally and that the Cons are ... well the same folks who got Bryan Hayes elected.
I assume Orazetti thinks much the same.This area has a history of killing off cabinet ministers so best not to get too confident.
BIG BROTHER 5/14/2014 9:01:08 AM Report

You're right Claudius. The moderator thought my analogy of sitting in the garage, with the car running, may plant a seed in Steely's brain that he may act upon.
Wild Turkey 5/14/2014 9:02:36 AM Report

Claudius---Good Morning----thanks for the link--I found it easily.
Albedo 5/14/2014 9:03:45 AM Report

Computer models must be backed by hard science in order to provide credible information.
Computer models used solely to predict climate change have for the most part failed in the resulting predictions.
In some cases it has been proven that the 'science' or information has been tweaked in order to provide the desired results.
Many of the time lines created by computer models and used by the IPCC have now been adjusted to decades in the future.
Simple time has caught up and proven them wrong and unfortunately credibility on some fronts is sorely lacking.
Scientists must always follow the science and this is not always as easy as some might believe.
Wild Turkey 5/14/2014 9:06:50 AM Report

@Big Brother---thanks I couldn't figure out which one was gone---And now I know The Rest of The Story (long pause)Paul Harvey(another long pause)--Good Day!
Wisenheimer 5/14/2014 9:11:40 AM Report

Look for the Sears Store to transition shortly.
Not sure if it's due to global warming but most likely.
Claudius 5/14/2014 9:14:22 AM Report

Staples is also closing stores. Hope SSM is spared.
Claudius 5/14/2014 9:16:29 AM Report

Morning Big Brother!

Thanks! I thought either my eyes or my memory was playing tricks on me. Glad I've not completely lost it.
BIG BROTHER 5/14/2014 9:26:52 AM Report

Albedo,
Tweeked to determine worst/best case scenarios.....maybe. Not to distort the story, as they are being accused of doing.

Pink Peony 5/14/2014 9:40:37 AM Report

Claudius, thanks for the link.
flyhawk25 5/14/2014 9:41:15 AM Report

BB...we will never convince the deniers.Best to let them muddle in their delusions.
None of us will be around to see the proof - but our progeny will.
I want mine to know that I tried my best to change things, go around the world without falling off and watch the sun set not the earth.
Let them sit idling at Tim's in their SUVs and eventually choke in their ignorance.
EricThe SHERIFF 5/14/2014 9:46:08 AM Report

Pink Peony,

There's a link for you in the red room.

Eric
theprotector 5/14/2014 9:48:02 AM Report

but we see the proof here, already. More temperate flora and fauna have established itself here, water temperatures have changed(I am not talking sticking your toes in the water every so often). It is foolish to think there is no climate change. yes models are only as good as the data inputted...
Wisenheimer 5/14/2014 9:52:09 AM Report

Fly .. Chesapeake Oil up big yesterday, after stellar earnings.
Better get on the horn to your pension dude and get him to deep six that sucker.
Wouldn't want your "progeny" getting any of Uncle Fly's ill gotten gains.
Pink Peony 5/14/2014 10:06:33 AM Report

Thanks Eric.
Wild Turkey 5/14/2014 10:18:35 AM Report

Wisen--The history of Sears Canada is interesting.IT started as ajoint effort between Sears U.S.A. and Simpsons in Toronto-Thus,Simpson-Sears.They were initially very successful ,to the point where Simpson-Sears was going to buy out Simpsons, and run them separately.Hudson's Bay was losing market share at thetime, and saw this as athreat, so they used their vast resources and bought Simpsons under S-Sears nose.Shortly thereafter, they swallowed Simpsons completely.
When the Eaton heirs "lost" that outfit,Sears Canada, looking to expand bought out what was left.Big mistake--that lasted but a couple of years and then Eaton's folded.But they did aquire some very valuable real estate.
Which brings us to to-day.
Sears holdings(K-mart owns half of Sears Canada.To improve bottom line they had huge layoffs, outsourcing, and sold offal of their good locations.The place is now up for sale, but it is virtually worthless.
flyhawk25 5/14/2014 10:25:25 AM Report

Wisen...put it to rest.I don't care.I have explained this many times but you seem to take great joy in trying to deflect your silly incorrect opinions by raising the issue of teachers' pensions.
Try a new tune my friend. This one is predictable and stale - just like its author.
mallet 5/14/2014 10:25:44 AM Report

Flyhawk...

I do not deny climate change.... I mean yesterday it was P'ing down with rain, today the sun is shining, so the climate has changed. I just think that the man made portion is overated, what was it 10thousand years ago we had an ice age, who changed the climate to what we have today, and the industrial age is only what 200 years old? A volcano can do more damage in a few seconds than man can in a decade, and then there's the forest fires that are all natural occuring events, so yes, the climate does change, no one will really deny that, but that man changes it so drastically, I think not...
Albedo 5/14/2014 10:29:29 AM Report

BIG BROTHER

Hard science will always eventually tell the true story.
You do not tweek the results of scientific research unless there is a motive and it almost always involves money.
I have two personal friends that live in the U.S. and worked for the government on climate change research and left their employment over what they viewed as suppression and altering of science.
They are both PhD educated.
Climate change is a real science but political motives are always working behind the scenes, aggressively invading research and in effect purchasing desired results.

Climate change is not the only area of science that this occurs.
Never forget who it is that runs the IPCC or what the 'I' stands for.
This organization has been outright caught distorting scientific research and it ticks me off to no end that they do this.
It undermines the credibility of those scientists that are working hard at understanding our planets climate and providing real hard science for all.
flyhawk25 5/14/2014 10:31:02 AM Report

Good for you.Best not to let science intrude on your theory.Remember not to venture too close to the edge of the earth. There be monsters there.
Albedo 5/14/2014 10:41:47 AM Report

A Smart Alec.
Always bumptious.
BIG BROTHER 5/14/2014 11:02:11 AM Report

Albedo,
Then ask your PhD buddies how long it takes a computer model to tweek in variables, testing best case/worst case scenarios, from the base line.

flyhawk25 5/14/2014 11:07:32 AM Report

Well if we're going to use anecdotal evidence I know some PhDs who are wack jobs.
Therefore you cannot trust any of them.
I saw that on The View so it must be true.
notpc 5/14/2014 11:30:23 AM Report

Debo

I just got on this site today and saw the reference to your reply yesterday. You stated that the statements from the NSIDC report from this month were reported by Breitbart out of context and for that reason my point was illegitimate. I've read the report myself from the NSIDC website and I can't see what the context might be that you think contradicts the statements made about Antarctic ice increasing.

The context of the report is ice cover. The report deals with ice coverage in both the Arctic and Antarctic. The Arctic levels were the 5th lowest since 1979 and the Antarctic levels were the highest recorded by a significant margin. So if there is some other context that you are aware of that makes my statement illegitimate, you will have to reveal it because there doesn't appear to be another context in the report.

Here's the report for your perusal.

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
debo 5/14/2014 11:54:59 AM Report

Well, congrats to notpc. He/She has certainly enlivened discussion on the forum again. I have no intention of jumping into the endless "wash/rinse/spin"cycle debate regarding climate change that has taken place on this site time and time again.
I am about 85% of the belief that climate change has occurred and is continuing and that the consequences will be largely negative. I follow the ongoing scientific debate... and to my mind the evidence for climate change grows more compelling.
My post last night was solely in regard to the use/misuse of "facts".
David Poluck 5/14/2014 12:01:00 PM Report

I see that Anthony N.Pagnotta has entered the race for mayor.
http://www.city.sault-ste-marie.on.ca/Open_Page.aspx?ID=1212&deptid=1
cathyh 5/14/2014 12:50:07 PM Report

Did any of you see the headline on the cbc online news. Candiac arrest. The cbc must have faulty spellcheck as I used it to look up candiac and it doesn't come up. They should hire spellchecker.
redranger 5/14/2014 1:16:20 PM Report

I hope Spelly will point out that "tweek" is not a good alternative spelling for tweak. "tweek" refers more to methamphetamines and drug culture.
notpc 5/14/2014 1:21:08 PM Report

Debo

Thanks for your congratulations regarding enlivening the debate on this forum. It was getting a bit slow there for a while after some of the others left and I really didn't want to see this forum die.

I agree with you that there is such a thing as climate change and that it is happening now. I just don't think that it is anything new (climate has always been in flux), nor do I believe, from the science I've seen that it is man-made. Correlations between increasing CO2 levels and temperature rise don't exist, nor have the computer models used by global warmists been anywhere near accurate.

The changes that warmists want nations to make would involve serious economic repercussions that would affect everyone, but especially the poorest and most vulnerable, and should only be undertaken if the evidence for anthropomorphic (man-made) global warming was a whole lot more solid than it is now.
flyhawk25 5/14/2014 2:17:48 PM Report

Wow...'anthropomorphic' has to be the biggest polysyllabic word ever used here.
It's good thing that some of our old posters are gone or they would be in a tizzy.
'Watermelon' had them scrambling to check the spelling.
bounder 5/14/2014 2:24:49 PM Report

Nope not the biggest, once I put up this one (Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious)some did not know what it meant, but some remembered where they heard it.lol.
steelworker 5/14/2014 2:31:46 PM Report

This is for the "sky is falling" crew. If the CO2 levels are rising and the temperature is skyrocketing (according to the Goracle)why isn't the Mississippi River the new Amazon. As to Some bonehead comments earlier about sitting in my garage- I awoke 3 hours later feeling quite Liberal.
flyhawk25 5/14/2014 2:38:26 PM Report

Try closing the door next time and get back to us.
ROLAND_ROLLY 5/14/2014 3:32:13 PM Report

Wow flyhawk25, I'll bet you feel real good after your assinine post.

You sanctimonious ...

Why don't you start your own room so you and the 'better' or politically correct ones can stroke each others egos.

I'll be back when there is something interesting going on other than the posters patronizing each other

steelworker 5/14/2014 3:54:06 PM Report

I doubt that they would be stroking "egos". smiley face
cathyh 5/14/2014 4:07:54 PM Report

I made a stupid mistake when I posted earlier about the spelling in a cbc online piece. I should have read more carefully. Candiac is a place in Quebec and not a medical condition, which I assumed.
Just Curious 5/14/2014 4:16:32 PM Report

When is the St Joe's summit?? I was just offered a ride so now I have to find another excuse not to show up...Just kidding.. Mostly I need to save some bucks for the big day and find a baby-sitter for the mutt.( I would take him but he won't go unless I promise to not drink..)...LOL..
Albedo 5/14/2014 4:33:36 PM Report

notpc

It seems that a well rounded open discussion on climate change with some is futile.
That is unless you are standing with those that believe Climate Change brings nothing but apocalyptic endings, is not currently or never has been cyclical and human activities are the sole proprietors of the cause.
Good to discover who they are as I do not have any desire for wasting time with those that are peremptory.
Albedo 5/14/2014 5:09:59 PM Report

notpc

On the polar ice caps melting.
The recent news release regarding the West Antarctic ice shelf collapsing is a shinning example of how one word can be manipulated to suggest something is more than it really is.
That is the word collapse.
Nothing is going to occur suddenly as the word collapse implies.

They have been studies on this ice shelf and published reports on the melting pattern since the 1970's, this is nothing new.

The lead author of the current study funded by NASA publicly stated the following:

"Warm, naturally occurring ocean water flowing under the glaciers is causing the melt. “We feel it is at the point that it is . . . a chain reaction that’s unstoppable,” regardless of any future cooling or warming of the global climate"

The rise in sea levels are at best guess to occur over time from the fastest time line of 200 years to one thousand years.
This underscores how wide and complicated the field is that science is dealing with when it comes to our planets climate and the many variables of cause and effect.
Albedo 5/14/2014 5:12:10 PM Report

Please allow for my correction, 'They have been' should read 'there have been'.

Bobby Nerves 5/14/2014 5:12:56 PM Report


Mallet, dizz uane es por yu lad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRV5iv66rBE





bounder 5/14/2014 5:16:16 PM Report

I don't know what the big deal is about climate change, that's been happening since the Earth was born and will continue until the end of this planets life.
notpc 5/14/2014 5:25:20 PM Report

Albedo

You're right, it can be a challenge, but I don't mind. The narrative for most of the past 2 decades has been that anthropomorphic (I just love that word) global warming is a given and we must do some very expensive things to "fix" it. I always found the deliberate hyperbole disturbing as it made me feel that we weren't getting the whole story.

Now that we are seeing that the climate patterns aren't cooperating with the computer models, there is more skepticism among more and more people.

It's just like research in the health field. For decades we've been told that antibiotics are the final answer for bacterial infections and controlling cholesterol was the final answer for preventing atherosclerosis. Now, through experience and research we know that in both cases it's not as simple as that. Climate science isn't as simple as global warmists would like it to be either, which was the good point that you made in your last post.
Snobank 5/14/2014 5:53:53 PM Report

Shaw cable, phone and internet have been out for about 45 minutes in my eastern end of the city. They tell me they have a crew working on it.
Albedo 5/14/2014 6:01:28 PM Report

notpc

As the stewards of this planet we must strive to do all that we can in reducing or eliminating human behavior that can irreversibly harm the only habitat we have.
A somewhat difficult task given the various stages of development in world countries.
Due to my education and my employment career it is in my nature to question.
After two of my personal friends that I greatly respect and are highly regarded by their colleagues quit their employment in climate research, my own interest and subsequently questions on this topic increased.
This was at a time when the headlines used to read 'Man Driven Global Warming', so some time ago.
See my post today at 10:29:29 AM.
Your pursuit of the whole story is a good path to be on, albeit a sometimes difficult one.
flyhawk25 5/14/2014 6:23:10 PM Report

I agree.
It is a complex question not given to simple answers.
notpc 5/14/2014 6:42:58 PM Report

Albedo

The point you made in your earlier post about scientific research being politically driven is very relevant. Studies are often undertaken in which certain results are expected. I remember reading about Dr Ancel Keys' correlative study about cholesterol in the diet and coronary heart disease (CHD) in the 50's. He studied the diets in 29 countries. Seven of those countries showed data that suggested that a diet high in cholesterol was linked to CHD. The data in the other 22 showed the opposite. Keys wanted the study to show a correlation so he ignored the results from the 22 countries and only published the results from the 7 that validated his preference.

Climate science from the warmist perspective sometimes seems to do the same thing, in my view.
DutchTouch 5/14/2014 6:52:59 PM Report

Well now....my non-scientific observation of this site is that
you have all agreed to disagree on just about everything......
Wisenheimer 5/14/2014 6:59:58 PM Report

Plenty of easy answers Fly ... Re: The filthy lucre you are forced to swallow. How about " the truth hurts."
Lead the charge Fly .. make the scoundrels listen to you.
Plenty of "green funds" out there to invest in that would give you a better night's sleep and make your family proud.
I know you feel you are powerless against the big shots at the OTTP .. but Cripes man don't you feel the sacrifice now would be worth it?
Perhaps TP and Bobby and the name we shall not speak, G*@#p, could kick in a few bucks to tide you over any rough patches.
C'mon, man you've got "the sand" !
Albedo 5/14/2014 7:04:25 PM Report

notpc

Politics and science should be separated in the same manner as Church and State.
Never going to happen due to the money source.
I worked for a private engineering corporation in the U.S., our main business was the development of guidance systems, our biggest client was the United States Department of Defense.
I know a lot about politics and expected results.
Glad to be done with it.
Hunter101 5/14/2014 7:05:39 PM Report

I hope you guys didn't miss me. Still here, just listening instead of entering useless arguments about global warming.
notpc 5/14/2014 7:35:30 PM Report

Albedo

Now that you're done with that kind of work, what kind of work did you find that keeps you challenged, yet avoids the frustration of dealing with politics? Or are you happily retired?
7058262 5/14/2014 7:59:15 PM Report

Until the Indians determine to become real Canadians and the governments decide it is time to back away from the useless treaties and give the Indians the benefit of becoming full contributors to Canadian society on an equal basis with the rest of Canadians this problem will continue.
Everyone cries for equality. It is time for true equality to be given to all Canadians no matter what their ethnicity. The Indians, rather than living continuously on the dole and treating such as their entitlement, the Indians should be required, like everyone else, to become contributing members of the society within which they live. And the same should be required of all members of the Canadian population.We are all equally responsible for the development of Canada. Freeloading should not be an option!
Albedo 5/14/2014 8:03:31 PM Report

notpc

I am recently retired, thanks for asking.
My wife is from this area but educated in the U.S. where I met, courted and tricked her into marrying me.
We had an agreement that upon retirement, she was a Pediatrician, we would return to her home roots temporarily.
I do so enjoy the raw outdoor beauty of this area and the friendly folks that I have met.
I still like to discuss politics.
I am currently reading and coming up to speed on Canadian politics as quickly as I can.
That is why I refrain from commenting on the Canadian politics discussed on here.
That is until I believe I know enough to jump in with both feet.


Albedo 5/14/2014 8:06:35 PM Report

A numbered moniker.
Oh my, now there is an example of someone that should read about an issue before jumping in with both feet.
Resident 5/14/2014 8:10:54 PM Report

Don't know who wrote this but I'd thought I'd share. Especially for those who think humans are "special".

Look in the mirror, and don't be tempted to equate transient domination with either intrinsic superiority or prospects for extended survival.
mallet 5/14/2014 8:13:49 PM Report

Bobby N..

Indeed I am, just like a church mouse...
bounder 5/14/2014 8:42:35 PM Report

Climate change would have been called a speed ball when the Dinosaurs where wiped in one shot!
flyhawk25 5/14/2014 8:45:32 PM Report

Just an excellent mix of opinions on here today with very few exceptions.
Refreshing and welcomed.
Mr. Poster 5/14/2014 8:49:31 PM Report

It is nice to see a young man willing to put his name forth as a candidate for mayor. Competition at all levels of municipal politics is healthy. I hope here is a real race in every ward..ESP WARD 2
BIG BROTHER 5/14/2014 8:52:38 PM Report

Albedo,
'This was at a time when the headlines used to read 'Man Driven Global Warming', so some time ago.'

The IPCC has been around since 1988. That is quite a while ago and the acronym stands for, in part, climate change. No mention of global warming in their title for 26 years.

You also infer that there is something wrong with the I, as in International. Personally, I think it adds credence to the whole issue. It is not the US ramming their agenda down the world's throat for a change.
BIG BROTHER 5/14/2014 8:57:24 PM Report

'Politics and science should be separated'....

Huh???

Then policy should be created by licking one's finger and holding it in the air to determine which way the wind is blowing. Perhaps it should just be set by those who have the most money. That is becoming the reality anyway.
Bobby Nerves 5/14/2014 9:09:58 PM Report


Malllett:

Mi phrent phrom London UK, sent dat to mi and saith, chow to the Pretesh lad minute 1.06.

Gut by.







Bill_the_Cat 5/14/2014 9:15:19 PM Report

Albedo is correct. Politics pays the science bills. Short-lived is the post-doc who can't figure that out.

There have been some high-level defections between the two sides in the Anthropogenic GW issue.

The IPCC has acted rather imprudently in suppressing dissenting views and studies, hiding information, hiring scientists to lead studies who are not qualified, and letting Greenpeace draft documents.

In that way, they act like some Pharma companies.

None of this addresses the validity of the science as a whole.
Wisenheimer 5/14/2014 9:36:46 PM Report

If you agree with "his flyness" your comments are "welcome and refreshing".
If not, he threatens to send out "the big guy" and some "sand" nonsense.
BIG BROTHER 5/14/2014 9:50:36 PM Report

Canadien Habitant beats those nasty Bruins!!
statusquo 5/14/2014 9:51:37 PM Report

7058262 5/14/2014 7:59:15 PM Report

"Until the Indians determine to become real Canadians and the governments decide it is time to back away from the useless treaties and give the Indians the benefit of becoming full contributors to Canadian society on an equal basis with the rest of Canadians this problem will continue.
Everyone cries for equality. It is time for true equality to be given to all Canadians no matter what their ethnicity. The Indians, rather than living continuously on the dole and treating such as their entitlement, the Indians should be required, like everyone else, to become contributing members of the society within which they live. And the same should be required of all members of the Canadian population.We are all equally responsible for the development of Canada. Freeloading should not be an option!"

This was worth re-posting as it is the most vile, uninformed and disgusting post in here for a while!
It reeks of ignorance and bigotry.....an ignorant rant from an uneducated dullard .
And I am not even native!

In the very first sentence the poster displays his utter incompetence in the matters he chose to rant about and it goes as follows.....

"Until the Indians determine to become real Canadians"

Are you serious?!!

Posts like this make me ashamed to be white!
flyhawk25 5/14/2014 10:09:42 PM Report

If the FN had tighter immigration laws back in the day people like that would not be here.
An excellent example of a redneck .
statusquo 5/14/2014 10:26:19 PM Report

Fly,

I am absolutely disgusted with people like that.
They have no concept/ understanding of history and have no reservations or self perception about their woeful inadequacy about spewing absolute crap and vile innuendo about topics they know nothing about.
"True Canadians?!!" really?
Who IS a true Canadian? The Jesuits? The fanatical Jesus worshipers who told the Natives their credo was crap? Their language was not to be spoken, the folks who established residential schools and tried to eradicate the "savage" out of them by physical and sexual abuse? These folks?

Then we have idiots like 705 or whatever his moniker is come in here and defecate verbal diarrhea about a subject he is barely literate in, post in here and thinks he can get away with it.
I am pissed to the hilt with folks of his ilk!

statusquo 5/14/2014 10:33:20 PM Report

"I am pissed to the hilt with folks of his ilk"

Hey! Bonus...It rhymes!!

It will become part of the urban vernacular as my "smiley face"...

Snobank 5/14/2014 11:18:05 PM Report

Well said Status.
statusquo 5/14/2014 11:31:16 PM Report

Well thank you sno,

And if 705 or whatever he calls himself wants to debate me he is more then welcome, as are the Bible thumpers , as of late they have been silent. Good!
I guess they recognize a Kalashnikov when they see one.
I just cannot tolerate base and inane comments.
Christina216 5/15/2014 1:02:22 AM Report

There should be a like button under peoples posts...
steelworker 5/15/2014 1:42:41 AM Report

Sorry stats but the Romans overran Britain during the day. Should I ask for reperations from Rome. Grow up you twit.
steelworker 5/15/2014 1:45:42 AM Report

What did your saviour say: Political correctness comes out of the barrel of a gun. Keep marching tool.
realitycheck 5/16/2014 11:15:56 AM Report

"I hope you guys didn't miss me. Still here, just listening instead of entering useless arguments about global warming."

Hunter101:
You are right about useless arguments. flyhawk seems to think there is an excellent mix of opinions on the site today but reading them I just look at them as same old, same old. Neither side is going to give an inch. The only comment I would make is that some seem of think the argument is about man-driven climate change. It actually is about how much man is contributing, as climate change has always been there.
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