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Tuesday, May 06, 2014   by: The Soap BoxWelcome to the SooToday.com View Room. This editorial feature is for you to post comments. To comment on a specific news story please post your comment directly under the news story.
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bounder 5/6/2014 6:58:16 AM Report

Good day, no blackflies or any blood suckers yet, but I suspect they are poised and ready to go, if we could only send them to Ottawa, revenge thing. I'm not allowed to say something about this day, but y'all know what I mean.lol.
irishfey 5/6/2014 8:29:23 AM Report

Morning bounder and all.... Oh Stats.. I felt so sad to hear of your hair problem. My Brother is also a Mechanic.. aka.. " grease monkey". He laughs at that term. He has hair problems also and said it could be from banging your head against too much "plastic". Most cars and other "things" are made of that today and suggested that you put a helmet on,, might help...... bounder, coward,lol.... Have a great day all.....
irishfey 5/6/2014 8:58:54 AM Report

Good Morning Pro... Hugs :)
Bobby Nerves 5/6/2014 9:41:36 AM Report

Risible the narrow reasoning of Moron.

If I eliminate the one bringing to my attention that I'm Moron... Eureka! I'm no longer Moron.

Sorry to be the bearer of the bad news, but you are still Moron, and you'll end your days like Moron.

Don't plan your epitaph, you have one already.

I couldn't understand the meaning of the name Moron, as in my language the word have no significance, but I got a good example now.

I can travel to visit Moron in Cuba and Venezuela. I can visit my friend Manolo Moron in Spain and his uncle Agustin Moron in Portugal. I can even find Moron in Northern Mongolia. There is a source of Morones all over the world.

Actually, I was born few kilometers from Moron. Does it make me a Moron also?
theprotector 5/6/2014 9:44:12 AM Report

irishfey and a top of the mornin to you!
(see you will let me in some day...i just know it...)
Bobby Nerves 5/6/2014 9:47:09 AM Report

Don't let your ego upset you.

You and your prejudice gives the word an offensive meaning. Your mild intellectuality will never allow you to observe life in prospective.

Moron is a family name for many, but it has a different meaning for you. Probably you should come to a full stop and rethink you reasoning.

Wisenheimer 5/6/2014 9:58:13 AM Report

Yes Bobby I believe it does, and apparently you come by it honestly.
irishfey 5/6/2014 10:12:54 AM Report

Pro.. maby,, just maby.. We could hold Bible studies together :), hee hee..... WISE..." 10!!".. ,lol....
theprotector 5/6/2014 11:19:53 AM Report

can always see which would be the best of the top ten to break!!
irishfey 5/6/2014 11:24:23 AM Report

Pro.. let me guess.. Bible study?? ,lol... joke sweetie :)... Can Stats read between the lines?, hope so....off for awhile,, sunshine calls....
Hunter101 5/6/2014 11:35:06 AM Report

status,

To your last post from last night: You wanted a sensible answer because apparently you think I'm not very intelligent. There are those personal attacks again, however subtle they may be.

I will pose my answer in the form of a question:

Don't you think creating projects that will increase revenue as well as jobs makes more sense than telling people to take the day off without pay?

You say we had no money left, but if that was the case, it was only for a short amount of time and that historically didn't stop any government (even your beloved Liberals) from going deeper into debt to get out of it.

I argue about the RIGHT to defend ones self and the exploitation of firearms as mass killing machines (they are mass life-saving machines if you look at your beloved statistics). Status, it's more than likely your neighbors own guns but just don't talk about it for fear of being judged or some anti-gun idiot going ballistic (that seriously wasn't a pun) on them.
Hunter101 5/6/2014 11:41:12 AM Report

P.S. stats, the LIBERALS have a huge debt in Ontario with 1.1 billion wasted on the gas plants. If Harris was the right hand of the devil, then Wynne has horns, a tail and a pitch fork (with us impaled on the end of it).
bounder 5/6/2014 11:53:56 AM Report

Opinions are part of this forum and should not be disregarded, especially the self descriptive ones,the truth be told.
theprotector 5/6/2014 11:59:11 AM Report

Hunter your bid for firearms and a need is so very americanized. Are you that paranoid and misguided you feel the need to insist you have a right to firearms? YOu need a licenece to drive a car, it has to be registered and its not intended for killing. A gun is...now I know it will go around and around here..but realize the countries with solid gun control laws have the lowest gun related crime PERIOD. Fact is fact on this one. Im not avocating stricker gun laws I dont really care either way. But its not a right here and they need to be regulated. They are invented and designed to kill.
flyhawk25 5/6/2014 12:15:47 PM Report

Rob Ford was denied entry into the US in Chicago.He was sent back here.
I guess Chicago was over their limit for corrupt politicians so poor Rob was sent home.
Things are bad when even Chicago won't take a millionaire politico looking for help.
irishfey 5/6/2014 12:40:30 PM Report

Hunter101.. I thought SOOTODAY was going to take care of those personal attacks?? Guess not,, just try and ignore, as it speaks volumes of who these people really are,, sad!
theprotector 5/6/2014 12:55:56 PM Report

poor robbie!
Snobank 5/6/2014 2:09:53 PM Report

Hey SQ, regarding what I think was your final posting yesterday, are things manly enough here for you today? <grin>
irishfey 5/6/2014 2:25:34 PM Report

My faith in SOOTODAY is restored. A post was pulled, thank you Monitor!... Just for the record,, i am not a "Bimbo" and do not play the Banjo, wish i could ,lol.... Mr./mrs Monitor... Have a great day!!!!
redranger 5/6/2014 3:13:00 PM Report

Hi
I break my self-imposed exile just to post a piece of valuable information. This week is the free week at the landfill. I will return on June 13.
Hunter101 5/6/2014 3:44:08 PM Report

theprotector,

I don't care what you believe about firearms. You disagree with me on every single issue. Why should your uneducated opinion on firearms be any different.

Countries with or without gun control have crime rates which depend on many other factors. People just don't go around shooting each other like your naive Liberal propaganda tells you.

Regardless of an objects original design what it's capable of in the hands of the right people usually negates what the few wrong can do with it. Guns are meant to protect life just as much as they are meant to take life. What you believe is irrelevant.

You are assigning correlative data in a causative manner when you attribute lower gun murder rates to a countries gun control. Switzerland has one of the highest gun ownership rates next to the USA and they have less gun crime than Canada, and much less violent crime.

Imagine that! If criminals know they are going to be trying to rob someone who can defend themselves maybe they will think twice.

The states in the USA with the most lax gun control have the least violent crimes.

Why do you care if someone uses a gun or a car to kill 20 people? Does the tool really matter? Both can happen just as easy. Instead of banning good people from owning cars, we punish the person who drove drunk.

If you think that gun control has had any effect on stopping criminals in Sault Ste. Marie from getting guns, ask the police. They will tell you all gun laws do are keep honest gun owners honest.

Next time try reasoning it out.
Hunter101 5/6/2014 3:51:37 PM Report

Just think of it this way, the police wouldn't walk around unarmed, so why should we not be able to get that same amount of training they do and be allowed to carry?

Do you think a doctor, dentist, healthcare professional, professor with a PhD. aren't able to handle the responsibility?

A lot of lives would be saved instead of lost.

L'ecole polytechnique wouldn't have been a mass shooting, but rather a double homicide if one person in the room had been armed.

It's time for Canadians to stop thinking so narrowly. We have proven we are great people and that we can bear much responsibility already. Let the people who are willing to responsibly defend themselves do so.
Hunter101 5/6/2014 3:54:33 PM Report

So let me turn my answer to your question into a question for you, the protector:

"Are you that paranoid that people are out to harm one another that we need all of this gun control?"

I don't know about you, but when I cross the border into the USA, I don't fear for my life while shopping in their much more competitively priced stores.
steelworker 5/6/2014 3:59:44 PM Report

Maybe we could send some posters out there. As for "rights"; who decides what my "rights" should be? As an example we can see that the "right" to free speech is being eroded every day by the P.C. crew.
Hunter101 5/6/2014 4:03:43 PM Report

steels, my point exactly. People are losing their rights & privileges more and more each day.

Government shouldn't have a say in our rights. WE should have the say.
steelworker 5/6/2014 4:12:20 PM Report

NEWS WARNING: The latest from United Nations- sorry people, it's not "global warming, not "climate change" but "CLIMATE DISRUPTION". Evidently this is double-plus bad. Brought to you by the "Ministry of Truth" Y'all have a day now.
BIG BROTHER 5/6/2014 4:19:34 PM Report

Irish,
What will we do with red in self-imposed exile. No one around to correct spelling and grammar errors. Now we'll be stuck with 'shood of' and such.

Look up the difference between rights and privileges. As for the cops, I'm quite sure they would prefer that people don't all carry. Just a guess.


Hunter101 5/6/2014 4:48:53 PM Report

BB,

The ones I talk to say it wouldn't change anything except violent crime would decrease. The people they deal with are criminals and don't care either way.

I talked to several police officers after the registration ended and they told me it was the most useless pile of junk ever and it didn't change how they conducted themselves.
Hunter101 5/6/2014 4:49:32 PM Report

Plus BB, I never said ALL people should carry, that's putting words in my mouth.
mallet 5/6/2014 4:55:25 PM Report


Hunter..

I often wonder about people, what is a gun? so many pounds of inanimate wood/plastic and metal. What is a knife, a few ounces of wood/plastic and metal, and yet in the last month how many people have been killed with a gun and how many with knives. Strange that no one is out there demostrating about the use of knives to kill people but would be up in arms (no pun intended) if someone is shot...
Albedo 5/6/2014 4:55:57 PM Report

Not to split hairs but Mayor Ford, of Toronto, was not denied entry to the U.S. as another poster, the flyhawk, was stating.

Globe and Mail

After announcing he was taking time off to go to rehab, Toronto Mayor Rob Ford boarded a plane to Chicago last Thursday, landed, but then turned around before officially entering the United States.

“He voluntarily withdrew his application to enter the USA,” Consul General of Canada in Chicago, Roy Norton, confirmed to The Globe and Mail in an e-mail, saying the Toronto mayor “was not denied entry, per se.”
Hunter101 5/6/2014 5:01:23 PM Report

mallet, metal, wood and plastic. It's how you use them that decides if they're good or bad.
Albedo 5/6/2014 5:07:47 PM Report

I am from the U.S. so I will comment on the gun control topic.
It is a fact that in the U.S., usually the states that have the most gun control laws experience the most crime.
Especially crimes of break & enter, home invasions, rapes, assaults and of course murders.
I had a permit to carry, it was more related to my work but we had a firearm in the home for protection as well.
It seems that those that are prone to make a living from committing crimes are sensitive to being shot during the process.
irishfey 5/6/2014 5:33:01 PM Report

Big Brother...He hasn't left, he's lurking and is writing down all our mistakes to come back and nag ,lol.. Spellchecker is coming back soon with his " words of the week". I do enjoy that as he does it in a respectable manner and i do learn from it. I " shood of " just ignored Red from the beginning and will do so when he returns. I do agree with Hunter101 on the gun issue. If all the folks got rid of their guns, the criminals would still get theirs from somewhere and if i have to confront one of these people, i would prefer to meet them on their own terms, so to say! The Police can't be everywhere at the same time so it's up to the homeowners to be able to protect themselves! As the saying goes... " guns don"t kill people... people do".... Would i ever shoot someone?? Hard to say, but if it came down to me, my family.. or them, well i don't think i'd have to think long to make that choice!......
Hunter101 5/6/2014 5:38:50 PM Report

irishfey, well said.

It's amazing how productive this room is without the usual immature comments.
flyhawk25 5/6/2014 5:42:03 PM Report

Albedo...if you know how it works at the border - if you have an issue that is not a felony they will suggest that you 'voluntarily withdraw' your application to enter rather than be denied entry with all that entails.
Either way they did let him into the states.
If you are from the US you already know that.
The bottom line is that Ford came back here because there was an issue.
Gosh I wonder what it might be?
mallet 5/6/2014 5:42:50 PM Report


Hunter...

That is correct, but the difference between a gun and a knife is simple really, a knife is a weapon as soon as you pick it up, whereas a gun has to be loaded, cocked and aimed before you pull the trigger and do damage. On the other side of this coin, if you commit a crime with a gun, no matter if someone is hurt or not, there is a minimum jail sentence. The Harper government tried to get this in but it seems that is against the charter to send someone to prison for having an illegal gun, and I personally have a problem with that, if it is a restricted weapon (handgun, automatic etc) and you have no licence, then the book gets thrown at you...
irishfey 5/6/2014 5:46:24 PM Report

Albdo.. I liked your last post, especially the last line.. Amen to that! I have a few friends that are police Officers and you wouldn't believe what they told me to do if my life was in danger,, I won't say it but you can guess. :)..... MALLET... I would rather have a gun than have to use a knife, I'm not that strong anymore but my sight is still good.... It's just sad that we have to think in these lines of protection these days, and i'm afraid that it's only going to get worse, not better!....
Albedo 5/6/2014 5:49:00 PM Report

flyhawk25

Yes I do know how it works, that is why I was putting forth the correct information.
Hunter101 5/6/2014 5:57:16 PM Report

mallet, exactly.

I believe that if you are unlawfully obtaining firearms then you deserve everything you get. Usually people who obtain them unlawfully intend on using them for unlawful purposes.
flyhawk25 5/6/2014 5:57:21 PM Report

And that is why I clarified it further.
Ford is not a victim but the author of his own grief.
Albedo 5/6/2014 6:00:50 PM Report

irishfey

Every living soul has a right to protect their own life.
Unfortunately we live in a world where this right is a mere wisp of a dream in some countries.
Living the reality of an issue that others simply talk or debate about makes for vastly different perspectives.
Albedo 5/6/2014 6:02:37 PM Report

Oh I get it, you're one of those.

Yes and thank you for that clarification.
I shall now crown your checker.
Albedo 5/6/2014 6:22:07 PM Report

I am assuming that as Canadians living in a border town that you are aware that upon driving up to the U.S. customs booth that you could simply state that you have changed your mind and wish to return to your own country.
In others words you are voluntarily withdrawing your intention to enter the U.S. on your own and it has nothing to do with anything suggested by a U.S. customs agent.
You do not have to show any identification and they do not have any right to stop you or search you.
As you have not requested permission to enter the U.S. nor been granted it, you may simply return home.
BIG BROTHER 5/6/2014 7:03:02 PM Report

Years ago, when I was a teenager, crossing the border, the Agent asked me if I'd ever smoked marijuana. I answered in the affirmative and he told me that all he had to do was tell that man over there (points at another agent) and he will not allow me to enter the country. I gave him a look of 'well, do what you gotta do'. They let me in. No biggie.

Similarly, it is well known that Ford smokes crack. He where's it like a badge of honour. This may have been part of the issue. Threatened to do a cavity search, Ford could have held out. The border agents would have had a hard time finding someone to volunteer for that job....eeeeewe!!
lookaround 5/6/2014 7:28:08 PM Report

Glad to see that this View Room has returned to some form of civility. I dare not look at the archives.
irishfey 5/6/2014 8:01:39 PM Report

lookaround.. It has been pretty good today, some are testing the waters, but got their fingers slapped!.. As for tonight?? Well, i"m outa here now while the gettings good ,lol...... I hope some tomorrow will discuss those poor kidnapped girls from Nigeria, What a shame!! I seen the clip of the Terrorist Leader mouthing off! Now, if they catch that guy, i hope he gets no trial!!!!!.... Night all....
mvnnth 5/6/2014 8:22:57 PM Report

"The states in the USA with the most lax gun control have the least violent crimes."

It seems the solution is simple. The state issues a gun to every citizen. Eureka, problem solved. Miraculous reduction of gun related crime. Boy, that was easy.
flyhawk25 5/6/2014 8:51:45 PM Report

And...if everyone has a gun there will be no need for cops.Think of the saving.
Yeah - let's have Sharia Law!
With any luck I'll be in the big golf course in the sky and won't have to see the carnage.
Hunter101 5/6/2014 8:53:22 PM Report

mvnnth, no one said to issue a gun to everyone. You are putting words in our mouths. If you don't want to have anything to do with a gun, or can't be responsible while owning one then you have no business having one.

There are people who cannot handle that responsibility (criminals, people with disabilities, blind people, etc.)

It is about responsible firearm ownership and not taking the right of self defense away from the people who are outstanding citizens and have proven themselves.

However, if you want to see what gun control has done, the states which have implemented it on have seen violent crime and even crimes involving guns rise considerably (Illinois, Connecticut, New York, California).

There was a reason the Newtown shooting happened where it did. That place was a gun free zone. No one else had a gun but the psychopath. There was no chance of defense.

Just think about that.
lookaround 5/6/2014 8:56:13 PM Report

In Australia they had a gun amnesty and the crime rate, gun related has almost been zero.
Hunter101 5/6/2014 8:57:27 PM Report

fly, please.

You're being overzealous. People do not just start shooting each other. That's like saying people just start stabbing each other if they get a knife.
Hunter101 5/6/2014 8:59:25 PM Report

For the record:

Gun associated violence has been on the decrease since 1962 in Canada.

The Firearms Act was started in 1995.

If you think gun control had a lot to do with the lower amount of gun crime in Canada guess again.
flyhawk25 5/6/2014 9:05:02 PM Report

Please indeed.
It is difficult to cut beef with a gun.
Try another argument buckaroo.
Hunter101 5/6/2014 9:09:39 PM Report

fly, they're both tools that can be used to kill someone. The same principle applies.

Correction to my previous post: Gun crime rose sharply in 1962 and peaked in 1975 where it has been on the decrease since. My apologies.
Hunter101 5/6/2014 9:12:16 PM Report

Now, back to my Montreal game. Goodnight folks!
Resident 5/6/2014 9:29:11 PM Report

Albedo: Where did you live in the States? Just wondering.
Bobby Nerves 5/6/2014 10:27:43 PM Report

Resident, you're not alone.

Well, don't you miss read my message, OK?

irishfey 5/7/2014 12:26:56 AM Report

Bobby, I have checked the Archives and the word " moron " has not been on here for 3-4 days. untill you brought it up today. That word and the name calling and insults was the reason that some people have lost the right to be on here. Please just post, ask and answer questions in a civilized manner and it will go well for you. There are no "morons" in here! Some like to joke around but do it in a non degrading manner. Also there has been no fighting in here as of late, just folks agreeing to disagree within respectable posts ..... just saying....
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