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View Room Comments for Friday, May. 2 2014

Friday, May 02, 2014   by: The Soap BoxWelcome to the View Room. This editorial feature is for you to post comments. To comment on a specific news story please post your comment directly under the news story.
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steelworker 5/2/2014 2:48:54 AM Report

Nice to see "All Quiet On The Northern Front".
steelworker 5/2/2014 2:55:20 AM Report

Sorry I beat you Grump but Essar calls and the Blast Fce. must keep running.
Wisenheimer 5/2/2014 6:11:50 AM Report

"Liberals adding 2.4 billion to Ontario's deficit in big spending 2014 budget."
Ms. Wynne ... think Detroit on steroids.
bounder 5/2/2014 6:44:03 AM Report

Wynne new budget will see us in debt $ 232000 per person, can anyone afford this type of money management?
Jimssm 5/2/2014 6:45:12 AM Report


.... and the Conservatives added how much to the deficit in their last budget ?

There's not many good choices in Canadian politics.
BIG BROTHER 5/2/2014 6:50:26 AM Report

Don't clutter his wee head with facts.
flyhawk25 5/2/2014 6:56:34 AM Report

I smell a non confidence vote and an election coming.It's time to see if Wynne has the support of the voters.
Locally both the NDP and the Liberals are ready.Does anyone know which sacrificial lamb the Tories are going to run here?
flyhawk25 5/2/2014 7:01:43 AM Report

A belated Happy May Day comrade BB!
I trust you wore your Che beret yesterday.
statusquo 5/2/2014 7:07:54 AM Report

Wisenheimer 5/1/2014 10:23:15 PM Report

"A little context on the Stirling thingy.
Recently Paul Simon and his wife were arrested, after having a knock down drag out lover's spat.
The police were called after witnesses heard the yelling and screaming and feared for the couple's lives.
Holding hands in court, everything was all better and the judge let them go on their merry way.
Point being ... good thing no one was recording the back and forth. I'm sure there were a few very unfortunate remarks. There but for the grace of God go a whole world of folks."

Context? Are you serious?
I am now getting a much clearer picture of how you really think.
Thank you for clearing things up .
Mr. Poster 5/2/2014 7:25:07 AM Report

I would expect the Conservatives will parachute another candidate into SSM. The NDP blew it when they opted for a candidate that was unsuccessful the last time. IT IS David O's election to lose.
learningaswego 5/2/2014 8:36:48 AM Report

Ontario - financially - has now become the California of Canada; according to expert interviewed on BNN this morning.
Except for the nice weather.
For our low information lefty friends, no, that's not a good thing.
Think words like "Greece", and "Detroit";
and train wreck.
BIG BROTHER 5/2/2014 8:38:55 AM Report

And we were promised 'manna' if we had a rep, like Bryan, associated with the government in Ottawa.

We were lied to....again!
flyhawk25 5/2/2014 8:38:56 AM Report

So vote for Hudak or move to La La Land.
BIG BROTHER 5/2/2014 8:41:17 AM Report for Hudak and we'll become lala land.
Bobby Nerves 5/2/2014 8:42:56 AM Report

BB, that happen to you because you believe the Groundhog promises.

flyhawk25 5/2/2014 8:44:30 AM Report

Any guesses on who the Cons pick for their sacrificial lamb here?
BIG BROTHER 5/2/2014 8:47:39 AM Report

And another Harper blunder that will be blamed on the MSM, of course. Or anyone else who is standing within a 5oo mile radius of this guy...

It's facism tactics, at there finest.
irishfey 5/2/2014 8:49:09 AM Report

Top of the morning to you all.. I think Mallet was right, it"s like being in Kansas in here, i see everyone is wearing their ruby slippers :).. On the political side ( yep, that"s me talking ,lol ) If they bring in that ORPP, i wish they would have done it years ago so the Seniors of today would be in a better place. I guess my only choice now is to go get pregnant so i can collect the OCB! I guess that when my Hubby retires i"m going have to go back to work. The only problem there is the " spirit is willing but the flesh is weak", real weak!... Have a great day folks and keep it going good in here, nice to see!
irishfey 5/2/2014 8:55:12 AM Report

Steeleworker.. Do you really work at Essar???.. My Son works there.
Just Curious 5/2/2014 9:23:49 AM Report

I think That when all is said and done I kinda admire Andrea for breaking with tradition. There is no way that anyone can get any kind of real idea of what exactly the budget contains in 20 minutes. Taking a couple of days to actually read it and then make a statement is the smart thing to do. And I think Wynne shot herself in the foot with the deadline thing. Makes you think they want an election. It's just a shame that we will be out millions of dollars and still wind up with a minority government, no matter who wins.
Wisenheimer 5/2/2014 9:25:07 AM Report

Fly, I assume you get it, that the outcome will have little to do with what goes on here, in little Detroit.
bounder 5/2/2014 9:28:11 AM Report

I heard Wynne sent a memo to Pauline Marois , she wants a copy of her farewell speech, just in case she needs it, best move she ever made.
theprotector 5/2/2014 9:37:34 AM Report

I dont see any issues for David O going another round here in the sault. This is largely the fault of the local MP giving everyone here a bad taste of conservatives in this area.
Wynne wants an election, the opposition will not support this budget if they think they can win an election. However, it is a good budget. Talk to any investment person, it takes money to make money.
Wisenheimer 5/2/2014 9:40:04 AM Report

Welcome Stats ... I've read your take on events occasionally.
Bizarre at best. Most, will get the point, unless you just need to grand stand.
flyhawk25 5/2/2014 9:53:53 AM Report

Have not heard a peep from our resident neo con about this election.
It makes me wonder if he is 'collateral damage' from the clean up on this site.
Mr. Poster 5/2/2014 9:56:08 AM Report

IF the NDP and the Conservatives had run a strong local candidate..David O would have been in trouble. He will have no problem defeating Celia Ross due to her lack of political experience...and the fact that she has already been defeated last time around. .The fact that the Conservatives have not announced a candidate speaks volumes for their local chances.
soowat 5/2/2014 9:59:19 AM Report


Essar steel is still operating,so Steely can't be working there
irishfey 5/2/2014 10:04:08 AM Report

soowat... ,lol.. be nice :)
Pink Peony 5/2/2014 10:13:11 AM Report

NDP not supporting budget.
Just Curious 5/2/2014 10:13:27 AM Report

Horwath is hanging the Liberals out to dry...Good for her....:).
Pink Peony 5/2/2014 10:18:21 AM Report

She said she doesn't trust Liberals as they have done a poor job so she can not support them at all which means no support for budget. Election coming up! Good!!
notpc 5/2/2014 10:37:21 AM Report

The Ontario budget was designed I think, to appeal to NDP concerns in an effort to hold onto power. It provided extra taxes on the wealthy, smokers and airline customers, extra funding for infrastructure, hospitals, school programs, school repairs, etc. A dream budget for the NDP!

At the same time it was designed to prod the Conservatives into opposing it by virtue of the fact that it would increase Ontario's debt by another $12.5B next year to a staggering total of $281.7B. In other words, Wynne was giving away money for these programs that she didn't actually have. A sure fire winner for criticism from fiscal conservatives.

Well, she got the criticism from the PCs but didn't get the expected support from the NDP. Voters have been clamoring for a chance to get rid of one of the most financially corrupt provincial governments we've had in decades, so we'll now see whether they really meant it.
flyhawk25 5/2/2014 10:39:58 AM Report

Wanted: One candidate to run locally for the Conservative party.Must have nice hair and teeth.Ideal person should be willing to take a political beating but come out smiling.
No gays,minorities or feminazis need apply.
Call 1-800-HUDAK
Mr. Poster 5/2/2014 10:40:59 AM Report

Does Hayes have a brother to run ?
theprotector 5/2/2014 10:47:25 AM Report

dress up a statue and they would do a better job than hayes.
Just Curious 5/2/2014 11:37:55 AM Report

I would suppose that we will have David O back up here regardless of which party wins. There just isn't any opposition that counts so far. Pro, why don't you run for the NDP? You would probably do as well as their current candidate..:).
POKER 5/2/2014 11:39:27 AM Report

Great news, Ontario election on the way. Time for this corrupt liberal government to go. No matter how liberals try to spin this budget, voters will not forget the scandals, lies, and incompetence of this government the past ten years.
Mr. Poster 5/2/2014 11:42:35 AM Report

just curious....keep up with the news...the NDP already have a candidate. Celia Ross.
theprotector 5/2/2014 11:53:11 AM Report

JC why dont you just run away
mallet 5/2/2014 11:55:13 AM Report


I'd love the job, except for the unfortunate traits I have of refusing to answer stupid questions, like "How am I going to bring jobs to the Sault", well I am not an employer so how can I bring jobs anywhere. That, and reporters shoving microphones in my face, I would perhaps not be a very nice chap. These days I regret to say my patience quotient is not very high, I do not bear fools very well. On the other side I am fairly honest, and within reason I keep my word, which kinda rules me out for a politician, don't it..
Just Curious 5/2/2014 12:15:57 PM Report

Mr Poster, exactly what I was referring to if you read my post. She did terribly the last time around, as I recall. I was only enquiring of the Protector if he would consider a change of careers...:).
flyhawk25 5/2/2014 12:43:42 PM Report

Next question - any bets that Rob Ford comes back in a month, announces that he is cured and keeps running to be mayor?
irishfey 5/2/2014 12:43:44 PM Report

Fly.. re.. resident neo con..... He will be back, just most likely a little pi**** off that his post was pulled. Others were pulled too but accepted it with grace. Just takes the Irish a little more time to settle down ,lol.....
Mr. Poster 5/2/2014 12:51:29 PM Report

This was likely Rob Fords plan all along. Get help...the voters will be the next election.
bounder 5/2/2014 1:14:24 PM Report

R Ford has to be back within 90 days or he's out,or misses three meetings.My guess is he'll be back for one of the last two meetings and look nice and squeaky clean for the voters and council.
theprotector 5/2/2014 1:25:12 PM Report

yeah but one quick run at rehab wont work for very long.
flyhawk25 5/2/2014 2:04:25 PM Report

I hope that when he comes back clean and sober he does not run.
But if he is foolish enough to run I hope he loses.
Mr. Poster 5/2/2014 2:06:24 PM Report

Guys like Rob Ford have an ego even larger than David O's...he will stay in the running/
flyhawk25 5/2/2014 2:10:58 PM Report

Silly comparison.
Show me a politician without an ego and I'll show you a loser.
Just Curious 5/2/2014 2:12:08 PM Report

Just watching the news channel, Harper is now gonna send troops to Poland for NATO execises !!! That's all we need, to get involved in another war we can't possibly win. Thumbing his nose at Russia is gonna come back to bite him, I'm thinking...
steelworker 5/2/2014 2:34:04 PM Report

Obama and Biden are going to Poland to golf for a week. Take that Putin!
flyhawk25 5/2/2014 2:43:52 PM Report

At least they won't try to change the rules half way through the match.
steelworker 5/2/2014 3:01:05 PM Report

Mutt and Jeff go on tour.
BIG BROTHER 5/2/2014 3:03:16 PM Report

A picture is...
steelworker 5/2/2014 3:21:14 PM Report

Nice to see a politician talk without using a teleprompter.
flyhawk25 5/2/2014 3:22:34 PM Report

And Howdy Doody sends our planes to a war he can't win.
steelworker 5/2/2014 3:37:37 PM Report

That's okay. Obama sends Airforce One to Hawaii with his family as a show of support. The Prez was just on CNN boasting how the U.S is going to bring Russia to its knees financially. He could barely read his teleprompter because of the glare and had to resort to mumbling.
BIG BROTHER 5/2/2014 3:53:05 PM Report

Gawd, I only wish Dubya used a teleprompter. But then, he would have to learn to read....
steelworker 5/2/2014 3:55:20 PM Report

Where's Ronnie Ray-gun when you just absolutely have to kick some ass?
Pink Peony 5/2/2014 4:01:11 PM Report

BB, LOL!!!
BIG BROTHER 5/2/2014 4:18:20 PM Report

These guy's defend stupidity right to the dire end. Their loyalty is admirable, but their sense of 'anything' is terribly mis-guided.

I don't like liars either, but there are degrees of lies. Some lies hurt feelings or get people in trouble. Then there are lies that get people killed. Then there are lies that start wars and get women, children and innocent people killed. Those are unforgivable lies. That is what these people are defending.
tea granny 5/2/2014 4:30:49 PM Report

I am very much reminded of the Cold War days when I was a child. None of this makes very much sense to me.
BIG BROTHER 5/2/2014 4:41:46 PM Report

Tea Granny,
No offense, but ignorance is bliss. Consider yourself fortunate, that you do not understand the situation. It is disgusting and dehumanizing, that people can do such things against one another.
mallet 5/2/2014 4:44:30 PM Report

Big Brother..

May I ask why you keep going on about Bush's blunders, they are history, they are in the past, apart from a comedy show what revelance are they today?? And they do not really concern this country at all, so why go on about them. If you want a discussion of some substance let us talk about the present Provincial government. How about announcing with fanfare the One Billion bucks for the ring of fire, PROVIDING the Feds match it, but knowing that, that money would disappear if the budget was not approved?? Spending money we do not have, hoping that industry returns to this province, but knowing that they would need cheaper Hydro to attract those businesses?? How about the SSC Chief Justice saying one thing and the PM and PMO and Justice Minister saying something different, your truth, my truth, and the real truth??. There are lots of interesting things to discuss beside has been presidents. How about the nearly 300 girls abducted from a school in Nigeria, possibly being sold as child brides, or having to "marry" their abductors? The Bush's, Reagan, Clinton, they are all in the past, why keep dragging them up..
BIG BROTHER 5/2/2014 4:47:05 PM Report

We even have posters who claim left or right, yet aren't even able to figure out whether or not they are left handed or right handed.

Tea Granny, check out the links I provided. You'll see George Bush making speeches. As you are watching, think about the fact that this is the man who took the US into Iraq and reeked havoc on millions of innocent people, killing hundreds of thousands of them.
Pink Peony 5/2/2014 4:52:12 PM Report

I prefer to remain ignorant regarding some things because it makes me sad, sick knowing and there isn't a thing I can do to change it.

tea granny...your "name" makes me think of my granny. She's 101. I saw her a few weeks ago. She played the piano for me...Greensleeves.
tea granny 5/2/2014 4:53:12 PM Report

That is exactly what I mean. Why do we keep doing this over and over again?
BIG BROTHER 5/2/2014 4:53:33 PM Report

Get your head out of your proverbial...

I didn't bring up least today. And I'm happy for you that you can just drop it. Denial comes in handy. I can' is a sickening mark on the books and we will live with that stain as long as we live. And it says plenty about our country. Harper, at the time, was goading Chretien to go to Iraq. That tells me everything I have to know about that asshole.

You defend that crap or prefer to decoy with other crap. Yes, hang McGuinty...I agree, but how many people have died as a result of his stupidity. We have an election announced. Good. Let the people decide.

Right to Work policies of Hudak tell me everything I have to know about him also. Tea Party wannabe!!
BIG BROTHER 5/2/2014 4:56:51 PM Report

Further, Harper is so focused on Alberta, that he should be their premier, not the PM. He is attempting to move the center of Canada out west. The ring of fire....don't get me started on corporate their own damn roads. And if it's too expensive, find their wealth elsewhere.
steelworker 5/2/2014 5:05:34 PM Report

My workboots reek of havoc some days.
BIG BROTHER 5/2/2014 5:09:23 PM Report

I know some literate people who are assholes. I know some illiterate people who are great.

Enough said!!!
mallet 5/2/2014 5:10:16 PM Report

Big Brother...

I know I forget things but I admit when I do... Your 3;53pm post.."gawd.. Iwish Dubya used a teleprompter...

Now before anymore insults start, would you care to read back your own post, please?
BIG BROTHER 5/2/2014 5:14:56 PM Report

I had to look back also and steely's profound post about teleprompters was a reference to Dubya and his teleprompter days.

And I'm not denying that I bring Dubya up often. History doesn't happen in a vacuum. Cause and effect...the effects don't always happen immediately. The scoundrels are well on their way by the time their damage is realized.

mallet 5/2/2014 5:23:09 PM Report

Big Brother..

I read Steelworkers post I saw no mention of Bush, only your posts regarding him, if referencing teleprompters brings Bush to your mind so be it. No need to apologise, I would not expect one from a person such as yourself, whose opinions are always correct. You have a nice day now!
BIG BROTHER 5/2/2014 5:26:08 PM Report

Also, the constant reference to Obama always galled me that Dubya (the US) was at war and he's surrounded by sycophants, and he's telling them to watch him golf. Yet, all I hear about is Obama being off golfing.
BIG BROTHER 5/2/2014 5:28:52 PM Report

Apologize...because you don`t want to talk about Dubya! Then start a new thread. Don`t like the topic, start a new one or join the party.

Of course listening to steely throw one liners out there is sure fun.
steelworker 5/2/2014 5:49:44 PM Report

I crack myself up some days, thank you very much.
BIG BROTHER 5/2/2014 6:01:52 PM Report

I see where you may want an apology. I will not apologize for talking about Dubya.

I will apologize for telling you to take your head out of your proverbial. I type like I`m talking with you and when I`m talking informally with people, I will use such phrases.

Don`t jump on me for talking about Dubya. I will consistently be talking about him. Scroll on past then, start a new topic or join in. You blind sided me.
redranger 5/2/2014 6:21:25 PM Report

how come my post was removed when I mentioned "reek havoc" and steely's didn't. hmmmmmm?
redranger 5/2/2014 6:22:26 PM Report

how come my post was removed when I mentioned "reek havoc" and steely's wasn't. hmmmmmm?
flyhawk25 5/2/2014 6:24:16 PM Report

Ask the 'dogs of war' or the internet provider.
steelworker 5/2/2014 6:27:58 PM Report

I'm funny. You are not.
redranger 5/2/2014 6:31:35 PM Report

AH came through. I wondered if anyone would say "Cry havoc and let loose the dogs of war"
But Steely just rode my literary wagon and now people will think he was clever enough to notice the gaffe on his own.
steelworker 5/2/2014 6:36:03 PM Report

...slings and arrows.
Wisenheimer 5/2/2014 6:56:19 PM Report

Is Grump standing in the corner, wearing a pointy hat ?
flyhawk25 5/2/2014 7:05:28 PM Report

Gee...I know but why don't you ask him face to face sometime.
If you have the sand.
BIG BROTHER 5/2/2014 7:18:59 PM Report

Cry havoc, reek havoc, what`s the diff eh...gotta be careful, whilst throwing stones and calling others out for literacy or illiteracy.

I know, I know....a typo!!

theprotector 5/2/2014 7:47:35 PM Report

Why does steelworker have such an unhe fascination with the president of the united states? It seems rather odd and well akward.

It will be a liberal majority this time around!
steelworker 5/2/2014 7:54:35 PM Report

It's like some have a very unhealthy interest in Harper. Psychotic actually.
Resident 5/2/2014 8:06:43 PM Report

It is unhealthy, I think, to idolize anyone. (ie harper) He didn't do too bad as a minority leader but his reform ideology doesn't appeal to me.
redranger 5/2/2014 8:09:07 PM Report

..don't you still get it? The word is wreak not reek.
statusquo 5/2/2014 8:11:57 PM Report

Hey steels,

"Sharknado 3"...summer of 2015!!!
Mark your calendar!

Wisen..."12 Years A Slave" available on DVD!

Both "feel good" movies. Yoos are both welcome to watch it at my place.....
Wisen, bring your buddy Don Sterling.

statusquo 5/2/2014 8:16:30 PM Report


"don't you still get it?"

He "don't" get much!

He "should of" gotten it but he ain't done gotten it.
Then again....he "could care less".
But he is funny.
theprotector 5/2/2014 8:24:45 PM Report

No not really not funny..sad maybe but definitely not funny.
Being concerned about the leader of the party that is ruining..sorry running our country is one thin g but an obsession about the leader of another country tells me either he is a closet american or just seems to be lost in his deciding on a realistic political veiw based on a basic understanding of political science instead of a unknown motive directing his hatred. Truely makes one ponder the driving force does it not?
statusquo 5/2/2014 8:33:58 PM Report


We are all "closet Americans"....
And "steels" is "steels"....unpalatable,
reasonably intelligent but woefully uneducated and provincial with an unresolved bitterness that comes out from time to time .
You seem bitter too times. Have you considered the pranayama breathing technique?
statusquo 5/2/2014 8:37:14 PM Report

Now then,

for something completely different.
What on God's green earth was Andrea Horwath thinking?
statusquo 5/2/2014 8:41:52 PM Report

I have the answer...or so I think....
Wynne tabled an NDP budget. Hudak is unelectable. Ontarians are fed up with the Liberals.
Put these three things together and Andrea is gambling. But it may backfire.
We all saw what happened in Quebec a few weeks ago.
Ontario politics is never boring.
steelworker 5/2/2014 8:48:17 PM Report

stats:I'll bring my buddy Al Sharpton.
steelworker 5/2/2014 8:51:22 PM Report

Andrea Horwath was probably thinking "We cannot prop up this gang of criminals any longer. It leaves a bad taste in our mouths akin to eating roadkill souffle."
statusquo 5/2/2014 8:52:04 PM Report

No! Not Al.

Call Gloria Steinem and Rob Ford...if and when he is "good" to go. I'd like to see him "jam".

statusquo 5/2/2014 9:00:03 PM Report


Andrea is placing a bet. She can smell something. Hudak is so unpalatable and the Liberals really screwed up .
I cannot predict the outcome but I hope Ontarians remember Mike Harris and to a lesser extent Bob Rae.
I do think Wynne is capable and I will give the Liberals another shot. I may be wrong (I have been before) but I just cannot stomach Hudak and the NDP is well...the NDP.
irishfey 5/2/2014 9:04:39 PM Report

Pink Peony.... God bless your Gramma!!!.... Mallet might not be on anymore tonight.. I think his Wife saw my post in the R.R and he"s probably outside in the dark picking up all his tools,,lol... Was good in here tonight, some good laughs too... Hey Red, maby your post was pulled because you made a spelling mistake,, yuk, yuk :).... Have a good night folks.....
Bobby Nerves 5/2/2014 9:16:28 PM Report

statusquo, the liberals, not the premier, the party, gamble with the elections because they know they are gonna win a minority and be in a much better position.

Be prepared though for a dollar 0.80 to 0.84 for Canada to be competitive and that could bring jobs.

The liberals with their budget were planning a bail out of the unfunded pension funds.

That has to end.

In the other hand, Hudak could have an agenda against the unions and that could be a scare for people to vote cons.

The liberals may have arrived to a conclusion using the wrong calculator, but in my view they believe they can hold to power.
statusquo 5/2/2014 9:23:44 PM Report

And now for something more sinister.

The Congregation of the People of the Tradition for Proselytism and Jihad, also known as Boko Haram, kidnapped 300 girls in Nigeria and torched their school. The girsl have not been heard from since.
Apparently they think that educating girls is a sign of "Western influence" and debauchery.
The "moderate" (note the quotation marks) Muslim community is silent or merely expressing measured outrage.
We must "respect" religious freedom.


flyhawk25 5/2/2014 9:24:44 PM Report

Frankly Hudak scares me - Harper Lite with a touch of Harris.
I'm impressed enough with David O even when I disagree with him to support Wynne.
I remember what happened when the NDP tried to form a cabinet and run a province.Yikes. No thanks.
Bobby Nerves 5/2/2014 9:26:47 PM Report

Locally, we could have a castling... Hayes downsize to Provincial and runs for the ndp as he knows how to do nothing.

Orazietti can take the MP candidacy as Liberal and we are done, nothing changes and everything is different.

Well, statusquo, eh?
statusquo 5/2/2014 9:32:15 PM Report


As I said it's a the end, the way things have been going, no matter who gains power, everybody loses.
We have to realize that we cannot rely on the government to shape our future in our best interest.-
It has become a game of "what's in it for me". The sense of community and the common good has gone by the wayside.
If Horwath would have been concerned for the common good she would have supported the budget .
But she chose not to. The smell of power must have been too overwhelming.
We shall see soon enough.
Just Curious 5/2/2014 9:36:26 PM Report

Status, watched the entire speech after Wynne killed the government today. The whole speech was a re-election speech but the most amusing part was that she kept calling Andrea "Horvath not HorWath", after having been across the floor from her for several years..I'm not sure who is gonna win it and don't think it will make much difference in any event.. It's gonna be a minority government whichever way it goes, I think. I think Hudak will be looking for a job, tho..:).
mallet 5/2/2014 9:40:33 PM Report

Status Quo..

Yes, I have been waiting for the Islamic community to raise a stink, but it seems this is an acceptable thing to do in that country, a few armed excursions into the areas controlled by the Boko Harum and that's it. The Mullahs and Immans do not seem too upset, so it's life as usual, except for the parents of those girls. Seems even the U N is silent and of course all the so called western countries, but when Ghadafi and Mubarak and Assad try to keep their countries together against rebels that is a whole different story.. Sad but true I life is a tragedy, 300 or 1000's are just statistics!!
Just Curious 5/2/2014 9:42:38 PM Report

So true, Mallett... Sad but true....:(.
steelworker 5/2/2014 10:08:41 PM Report

They tend to treat their females like cattle over there.
Bobby Nerves 5/2/2014 10:50:58 PM Report

I think, if are not going to talk religion because in it there are issues so far apart that we can not understand, then we shouldn't talk about any religion.

We can talk criminal mentality, which could be applicable to certain issues.

When a human can't find God in a sunrise, or over the sunset, in a mountain or the forest, on mother nature and the power of the sea waves or in their kids eyes, or the eyes of the person one loves, then certainly, no person will find any sort of God in a book written for other persons.

That was the conception of B. Spinoza, a philosopher from the 1600, which we should peruse from time to time and then we can understand why people can't be grateful every time they wake up breathing.
Wisenheimer 5/2/2014 11:07:19 PM Report

Labor participation rate in the U.S. drops precipitiously. One in six males between 24 and 54 have given up looking for work.
Keystone XL would get 40,000 or so, back to work, at least temporarily, with good jobs and wages.
Obama fiddles with Darryl Hannah while his precious middle class burns.
Wisenheimer 5/2/2014 11:11:06 PM Report

"If I have the sand" ... dumb Fly, dumb.
Your boy becoming more and more of a disappointment I gather.
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