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View Room Comments for Thursday, May. 1 2014

Thursday, May 01, 2014   by: The Soap BoxWelcome to the View Room. This editorial feature is for you to post comments. To comment on a specific news story please post your comment directly under the news story.
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BIG BROTHER 5/1/2014 6:59:21 AM Report

Rob Ford on his way to rehab. Bad timing, politically, but never too late for him personally.

He is a boor. He should be running for the leader of the 'good ole boy's club'. Duck Dynasty would be a better fit for him.
Bobby Nerves 5/1/2014 7:05:13 AM Report

Canadian 0.91

USA government lost 11 billion + with Government Motors bail out.

When a business go down, let the strongest in the industry to take over and never go around asking for taxpayers donations.
MYPOINT 5/1/2014 7:12:12 AM Report

is as follows ...

I guess certain individuals were making comments that were not acceptable to SooToday and by doing so, have limited those of us who would have liked to have made a comment. That being said, I have nothing further to add at this time other than to ask everyone to be mindful of the rules @ SooToday when it comes to posts that you wish to input.

Many thanks to those who are willing to hear the truth.

Of course, your views may differ :)
Bobby Nerves 5/1/2014 7:13:21 AM Report

BB, sadly, he's not there for his own health neither for his family and less for voters.

He'll never overcome alcoholism.

The good thing is that he's down and forever in the votes eyes.

Question is... Will the Police archive the investigations of the brothers?

But, no matter what, should Ford and Smitherman be in the ballot box again, knowing all, I'll vote Ford and hold the sign for him.

Ooops, and if you meet someone, ask for his cell phone and remove the sim card.

BIG BROTHER 5/1/2014 7:23:45 AM Report

My Point,
I read some of the posts. It wasn't that they were offensive to Soo Today. They were offensive to society at large.

On the other hand, screaming 'lawsuit' and sue, when the facts are plain to see, is a smokescreen attempt at bullying. It is a reporter's job to provide the facts. Let their reading public decide what is relevant.
flyhawk25 5/1/2014 7:37:48 AM Report

Rob Ford is a tragedy.
Both personally and for the city.Just another spoiled rich kid who bullied people and convinced the selfish majority in Toronto that he saved the city a billion.
One poster on here even went so far as to blame the lefty MSM for failing to prove his crack usage. Now of course the Sun and the Globe have joined in.
Left unsaid in it is the access Ford gave dope dealers and gangsters to the city's highest office.
In the end another neo-con poster child for excess who will be rehabbed and come back 'saved'.
bounder 5/1/2014 7:59:13 AM Report

Whoa about R Ford, the man is sick and needs help, just like anyone with an addiction of any kind.
Mr. Poster 5/1/2014 8:03:01 AM Report

Do not count Ford out !!! He will bounce back with a vengeance. FORD NATION WILL MAKE SURE EVERYONE KNOWS HE IS A NEW MAN.
Optimistic08 5/1/2014 9:21:45 AM Report

SPELLY! Life got so busy and I totally missed the date!!!!!

Folks, our beloved Spelly had a birthday on Monday. Lets all wish him a Happy Belated Birthday, shall we?

So sorry Spelly! Happy belated birthday to a fine gentleman!
Spellchecker 5/1/2014 9:42:31 AM Report

Many thanks, VeryAmused. I figured I might be hearing from you. I'll try to remember yours in September.


Over and out, folks.
Wicket 5/1/2014 10:02:33 AM Report

The name calling, descriptive words and demeaning attitude in the posts by the same few posters day in and day out have become more than boring. Every one of you, yes, every one; seem to not have a great vocabulary at your disposal and certainly your comments no longer have anything to do with the news.
Even comments concerning news/politics are attacks on each other with no respect shown. We all have our own opinions formed over the years with sensible input and/or research. Words on here will not change what most of us believe, whether it be politics or religion, so quit with the attitude. It is neither pleasant nor fun to read any longer - same old, same old, day in, day out.

Do not be surprised if this forum is closed down by SooToday as it is no longer relevant to the readers.

Just my opinion.
flyhawk25 5/1/2014 10:23:28 AM Report

Wicket - we adults must take back control of the site.
Simply stated - just don't respond to the snipers and name callers.
When we've done that in the past they simply disappear back into the ether from whence they sprang.
redranger 5/1/2014 10:45:11 AM Report

A question for you my friend. In your last post you said "from whence". Is the "from" not redundant?
irishfey 5/1/2014 10:45:41 AM Report

Spelly... Happy Birthday..... Wicket,, Amen!!! and Big Brother, please don"t insult.. " Duck Dynasty ".. :)... Have a great day....
Wicket 5/1/2014 10:49:09 AM Report

Fly, I try to no longer make comments and no one has disappeared from here in months. I now read the first sentence of a post, do a quick scan of the rest of it, then scroll on by. This used to be an interesting and informative site to read, lots of good opinions, people agreeing to disagree, but that has all disappeared. Now it is just bashing and no acceptance that someone else does not have the same views (especially political) as another.
flyhawk25 5/1/2014 11:08:46 AM Report

RR...yes.Done on purpose in my best Shakespearean tone for emphasis.
flyhawk25 5/1/2014 11:10:13 AM Report

Wicket...some have left but if we keep feeding them they'll be with us forever.
mallet 5/1/2014 11:16:41 AM Report


Oh heck, another year gone has it..Once past 70 I don't want to know, for my three score and ten is up!!! Happy Birthday, belated!!

Red Ranger..
From whence you comest, wench! is that not correct olde english??

There are lots of words I could use to describe some of the posters on here, but best thought of in the not too old joke about the little boy who told his mom he wanted to be an astronaut when he grew up, why asked his mother, I want to be shot into space, his mother replied if your father had done what I told him to, you would have been..
irishfey 5/1/2014 12:00:15 PM Report

Oatmeal Pro.. Oatmeal!!!! :)
Brietsy 5/1/2014 12:18:53 PM Report

If I may, I signed back up to the Sootoday forums after 3-4 years of absence. When I left the first time, there were disagreements, and there were arguements, but they were entertaining. People tried to outsmart each other, rather then sling mud.

I am seriously thingking of shaking this place's dust off my boots, as the quality of posts has dropped to the level of an average Youtube video.

I would like to see this be a safe, reasonable place for people to discuss things again. it will need some severe moderation to get to that point.
Snobank 5/1/2014 12:23:14 PM Report

Wicket. I applaud your efforts to raise the tone in here. You have provided some sane and reasonable replies to the attempt to draw you down in to the fray.
Mr. Poster 5/1/2014 12:43:59 PM Report

To solve the "problem" this site should appoint a moderator. It is obvious no one is watching or caring about what goes on.I understand it is a business and we are not paying and as long as they can show advertisers a large number of hits...then perhaps that's all that counts.
Brietsy 5/1/2014 12:47:19 PM Report

Perhaps have the moderator be a volunteer position? have them be accountable, but unpaid. I know that several members here would be happy to help protect this forum
Jimssm 5/1/2014 12:51:25 PM Report

I'll support any effort to deliver this site back to the adults.

If we stop feeding the children they will eventually starve.

...and I would rather have 25 intelligent posts a day than 100 'you're a caca-face' comments.
Brietsy 5/1/2014 12:58:54 PM Report

Mr. Nerves, I truly apologize, but I did not quite catch your meaning in that post.

Could you type that again?

Really sorry.
theprotector 5/1/2014 1:25:26 PM Report

jim im 50/50 but as soon as I post something that is a good discusion and having a good debate right wing and wisen, steelworker and a couple of other come out with more bs and name some of us fight back and get labeled...some are more proficient at fighting than others.
Remember they fired the moderator on this site without cause I might add!
Bobby Nerves 5/1/2014 1:35:14 PM Report

Please, no arguments OK. I'm eating my pasta and when people argue, I get nervous and then I need some exercise to wash the pasta down.

Wicket, let them be, you can't go around with a pair of scissors snipping peoples genitals.

When people don't like to interact with others, well, carry on, you may be missing the opportunity of being liked somewhere else.

Jimssm 5/1/2014 1:40:55 PM Report


The name calling will stop if you don't react.

Bobby Nerves 5/1/2014 1:50:55 PM Report

Mr. Poster, I can't understand the control attitude. Probably you believe this site is anonymous, safe, and located in a cave under the rocks away from public view.

You're wrong, this site is hosted in Kansas City, Missouri, then privacy and anonymity doesn't translate impunity. Add the webmaster liabilities and the internet provider responsibilities then you can draw a picture.

If you have any doubt, write the wrong message and you'll see the black Suburbans at your door and those big guys in dark suits.

It takes only your choice to verify.

Go for it.
Brietsy 5/1/2014 1:59:00 PM Report

I have been away for a while, so I don't know this. when was the last time a representative of Sootoday, acting as such, has posted in this form? either as a warning, or to promote conversation in a direction?
Brietsy 5/1/2014 2:34:47 PM Report

I can see bythe changing post count that someone is trying to moderate this forum. perhaps it would be best if that person were not to remain silent.
Brietsy 5/1/2014 2:39:25 PM Report

We have dropped from 44 posts to 39 (40 now that I add this one) so someone is trying something.

Please give us some guidelines as to what to expect from this?
SootodayModerator 5/1/2014 2:58:10 PM Report

From the forum guidelines:
KEEP DISCUSSIONS CIVIL and on topic. REFRAIN FROM OBSCENITY and don't post anything that your grandmother would be ashamed to read. Those who do not abide by these guidelines WILL HAVE THEIR MEMBERSHIP REVOKED without notice. If you see an abusive post, please click the link beside the post to report it.
Brietsy 5/1/2014 3:09:11 PM Report

Thank you moderator
Jimssm 5/1/2014 3:18:31 PM Report

Thank you Mr./Miss/Ms. Moderator
Brietsy 5/1/2014 3:40:44 PM Report

I learned from the first responder story! I stayed gender neutral.
bounder 5/1/2014 3:47:39 PM Report

Finally, a move in the right direction, and so the forum is open for any topic whether you're bright or not without repercussions. Thank you moderator.
rockbanger 5/1/2014 3:52:30 PM Report

Censorship is a tactic of totaliterian thinking.
With the brutal statements made by some it was obvious that Sootoday had to act and remove some people's statements. Mine included.

Sootoday blog sites are subject to very few people who actually have the time or energy to submit. Then some mad-dogs get on and don't let go. There is also a group of bloggers who believe they are beyond reproach and have the right to self govern the site and this is just as offensive as nasty comments.

Today's society protect everyone regardless of race, creed, colour, sexual orientation but today free speech is stifled? So what type of society have we become?
bounder 5/1/2014 3:55:08 PM Report

Went by the Goulais river bridge, that would be the Shewfelt Bridge, and I must say another two to three feet and the level would be the same as it was last September during the big rain storm. This is getting bad now.
steelworker 5/1/2014 4:01:25 PM Report

I guess some Gouligans will be sleeping in their Zodiacs tonite.
Jimssm 5/1/2014 4:06:14 PM Report


You call it stifling of free speech.

I call it civilization.
Jimssm 5/1/2014 4:07:59 PM Report

I just came back from down east...

The Mississaugi River is up to the highway in places.
steelworker 5/1/2014 4:23:49 PM Report

Did you happen to see Andrea Horwath in your travels? She seems to have gone missing on Budget Day.
mallet 5/1/2014 4:27:47 PM Report


Yes, the rivers are coming up fairly quick now, the Root river north of the Soo is in its flood plain, the Stokely Creek under the hiway is running fast too, and there still seems a lot of snow left in the bush.. Just hope the Goulais does not do too much damage downstream from the hyway bridge...
Brietsy 5/1/2014 4:31:00 PM Report

yeah, I've been hearing some horror stories about the goulais river this year
Jimssm 5/1/2014 4:31:11 PM Report

First time I saw huge flocks of migrating snow geese in the fields east of Montreal.

Mother Nature can still impress.
Mr. Poster 5/1/2014 4:42:30 PM Report

Andrea is slipping in every poll taken. Folks are tired of her propping up the Liberals. She seems to be waiting for that magic moment when votes will swing her way. Not going to happen blew itp by your support for the Liberals.
steelworker 5/1/2014 4:45:53 PM Report

They haven't even called for an election and already the Dippers are invoking the name of St. Jack. CTV about twenty minutes ago.
mallet 5/1/2014 5:12:02 PM Report

I do not know if anyone listened to the Budget Speech, nice for the guy to have his father in the gallery and the guy who got a job as a service advisor at CTC, well he did want a job in the auto industry. I heard a lot of what good they had done and what they are going to spend over the next ten years, hope you have quit smoking and do not have a well paid job, 'cause this is going to cost you, also look out for the pension contributions you will have to make in the future, they always seem to start low and then increase...But they are going to borrow to pay for this and increase the provincial debt by a few billion... BUT no new taxes... just increase the existing ones... ay yi yi...
irishfey 5/1/2014 5:26:45 PM Report

Mallet.. Would the Root River Trailor Park be in danger if the Root River floods??? Yeh, i know,, i don"t get out much ,lol,, just answer please....sooooo we can talk now about anything and not be called names?? Yeah!!!! How about Religion??? .. just kidding!! :)
steelworker 5/1/2014 5:30:55 PM Report

If the Root River trailer park floods we are all in serious doo doo. This would be a really bad water hazard at the golf course.
rockbanger 5/1/2014 5:32:52 PM Report


Glad to hear your back. Not.

Modern civilization is a play on words. The righteous (the self proclaimed civilized ones) dictate how they perceive the world to be and the masses are supposed to enjoy it. If you can.... try to get down off your high horse.
Stopping the nonsensical blogs is warranted but having your type dictate tone is repulsive.

Being a know it all comes with responsibilities.
Someone who values themselves as much as you do must be weary from the massive responsibility.

Bobby Nerves 5/1/2014 5:41:25 PM Report

rockbanger, the only one with an excuse to misspell is me, spanglish here OK, should be totalitarian instead of totalitarien.

I'm not whom to correct any one, but hey, I wanna know what's like being Da'rat.

Huh... if you wanna misspell the words, you gotta pay the price.
irishfey 5/1/2014 5:51:13 PM Report

Rockbanger.. Did you not see the Post from Sootaday?.. Your post to Jimssm was insulting!! This is how it all starts!!!
rockbanger 5/1/2014 5:52:30 PM Report

Yes sorry for any spelling mistakes..!!

We forget how valuable spell-checkers really R..Eh.

Peace to All.
Bobby Nerves 5/1/2014 6:07:12 PM Report

Mamma mia, they deleted my post to the boss, and was encoded.

Grump, I did purchased the siding brake. The one in Wisconsin is gone, as it was to high for me, but I got a nice commercial Van Mark, 12', two handles. It's in Grand Rapids. By the pictures, it's new, the guy said he used it twice. Retail price 3400. Ta..ta..ta...
I paid 150 bucks more than the one in Wisconsin, but this one is commercial, 12', 19" throat.


You're not trying to find a Chinese angle on it, are you?
Jimssm 5/1/2014 6:08:33 PM Report


If you've ever read my posts in the past, you would know I don't have a high horse to sit on.

But you can think of me whatever way you wish.

Bobby Nerves 5/1/2014 6:13:27 PM Report

I couldn't care less about spelling, I just wanna have that pride in my chest, look at myself in the mirror and see the eyes and the ears of "the rat"

That's why I rat you, not cause I wannabe a bing or a boozenhound, you people have the bulge.
Bobby Nerves 5/1/2014 6:19:19 PM Report

The best insult I've ever read in this country, just happens to be here, someone said to some other one:

Go push a rock!

It sounds simple, but it is a very deep insult, very well thought and put together, and as usual, it was shoot in the perfect occasion. It's one of those insults that can get to your bones, after perforating your guts.

Yes, because the receptor has no brain.

I'd laughed profusely after that.

irishfey 5/1/2014 6:52:07 PM Report

You didn"t " rat" anyone Bobby, you just brought someone down a peg or two... good work!.. No one on here is perfect in spelling or anything, we all make mistakes....
rockbanger 5/1/2014 6:59:27 PM Report


I baited you..

You are human like myself and everyone else. Point is even those bad-dog or loudmouth bloggers are human too. Protect the weakest to show we are the strongest.

If you go back a few blogs your advice was..Don't reply and they will stop...

Just making sure you are human....

As for the horse thing... Glad to hear you are honest.

Caught Ya
irishfey 5/1/2014 7:03:05 PM Report

Boy oh boy... nope i won"t say it!!!.... Have a good night all.....
Hunter101 5/1/2014 7:27:05 PM Report


Censorship is for people who can't stand hearing the truth sometimes or don't want others to hear it.

It's extremely dangerous. Civilization could use less censorship. Look at how shielded kids are these days.

If you think censorship is good, then you clearly are just in it for your own benefit.

Freedom of speech doesn't have limits. If it does, then it can't have the word freedom in it.
Wisenheimer 5/1/2014 7:29:31 PM Report

Breaking News ... "Wynne's budget makes Bob Rae's NDP look like flinty eyed Conservatives".
Time to toss the rascals out and get back to real flinty eyed conservatives.
When responding, please be measured, with no potty talk, and restrain from comparing "Wise" to a dullard or even worse, the south end of a furry rodents posterior.

rockbanger 5/1/2014 7:30:22 PM Report


Have you ever been to the old Sod?

flyhawk25 5/1/2014 7:56:33 PM Report

Yeah...real 'flinty eyed conservatives' Rob Ford or the Tea Party in the states.
I don't know about you but I'll take moderation and morality with a vision for every person.
mallet 5/1/2014 8:31:10 PM Report


I think I have to disagree with you there, didn't Dick Stern just get slapped with a big fine for saying things that became public which to some are offensive. Slandering someone can have heavy financial implications for the person slandering someone. Freedom of Speech is one of the great misnomers of our time, speech cannot be offensive, cannot be untrue, if in the public domain. You and I can have a conversation, however if it is within the earshot of a third party, everything we say has to be able to be backed up with facts, if I were to say so&so is a lying thieving ahole, I had better be able to prove he was a liar and a thief, the ahole part is merely offensive..
steelworker 5/1/2014 8:40:01 PM Report

Leave Katey Wynne out of this.
irishfey 5/1/2014 9:05:14 PM Report

Rockbanger,, i owe you a small apology... When you were correcting anothers spelling, i got you mixed up with someone else that thrives on doing that,, i am sorry... Peace.... and .. Old Sod.. no.......Have a great night....
BIG BROTHER 5/1/2014 9:14:44 PM Report

I posted this the other day and nary a peep from our right winged friends. The phenomenon happened in Texas...the new Texas tea...

'The Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT) announced last week that March 26 saw a new wind power record: 10,296 MW at 8:48 PM. This represented close to 29% of the nearly 36,000 MW of electricity on the power grid at that moment'

Of course, unlike my esteemed colleague, I will provide the source. Actually, I will gladly provide the source, since it of the persuasion that some on here consider their bible...

Disclaimer: I am neither promoting nor suggesting that this is the answer to all of our future energy needs.
steelworker 5/1/2014 9:18:06 PM Report

Twenty minutes later the wind died out and so did the lights.
Hunter101 5/1/2014 9:19:31 PM Report


I didn't say people weren't responsible for what comes out of their mouth.

What happens when someone starts to libel/slander another person would be the same as now.

Just because you're offended, doesn't mean you're right.
redranger 5/1/2014 9:24:23 PM Report

You said " No one on here is perfect in spelling or anything, we all make mistakes....". You are correct, but there are degrees of illiteracy. Some seem proud of it and make it their life's work.
BIG BROTHER 5/1/2014 9:26:18 PM Report

You are absolutely right Hunter. You have every right to be an asshole and there is nothing anyone can do about it. You may, at some point be asked to rake your show elsewhere.

Not the police, courts, anyone. Look at Steely. He is breaking no laws and just because people find him very offensive, he is still spewing, with absolutely no consequence that we know of.
Hunter101 5/1/2014 9:28:10 PM Report

And while Donald Sterling did say some pretty bad things, they were in the privacy of his own home (or so he thought).

I'm not sticking up for the guy, and I don't agree with him, but look at it this way: It was a recording which he didn't consent to and was released without such, but since the NBA is a club and not a court of law he will be kicked out (and rightfully so). They don't care where it came from.

He also had a right to express his opinion, no matter how wrong it was. He is now having to answer/pay for it and that's the way free speech works.

If I say someone is fat and it's the truth, I have the right to make that observation and speak it publicly (even though I wouldn't).
Hunter101 5/1/2014 9:29:16 PM Report

BB, if you are calling me an a**hole I want an apology.
Hunter101 5/1/2014 9:32:27 PM Report

And steely deserves one too, as you used him and as example and I haven't seen him behaving as such.
mallet 5/1/2014 9:35:24 PM Report

You are correct it was Donald Sterling, that's is the problem with being old and fat (which I am) you tend to forget the stupid news. My apologies.. and I do not get offended very often especially when it is the truth.
Hunter101 5/1/2014 9:37:22 PM Report


I'm fat as well (old? well that might be a debate).

Bobby Nerves 5/1/2014 9:53:16 PM Report

Mallet, you're not fat, you have a condition and your morphology is a sign of it.

I'm in the same boat. I didn't get the bypass yet cause my wife took good care of me since I was 37 and I made it till now.

No matter what you do, your body will look always the way it looks now. My father had about your same body and he was a cardiac patient also.

You are not old nor fat.

You see, I have to make you look good, big, young and strong, otherwise it will look like I'm abusing a poor decrepit.
flyhawk25 5/1/2014 10:09:30 PM Report

I applaud the new policing of this site.Enough was more than enough.Let's get back to adult debate and discussion of topics without all the nonsense.
For those concerned about censorship - those are the rules on here.No one is forced to post but they must abide by the rules.
For some it will be impossible to continue because for whatever reason they believe that 'anonymous' is synonymous with carte blanche to write anything.
That may work if you are your mother's favorite spoiled child but it is not appropriate in public.
Jimssm 5/1/2014 10:10:04 PM Report


Being held responsible for what you say or write (ie. free speech) is not censorship.

Should free speech be allowed for treason, sedition, blasphemous and defamatory libel, disruption of religious worship, hate propaganda, spreading false news, public mischief, obscenity, and indecency ? If so, take it up with the criminal code of Canada.
Jimssm 5/1/2014 10:20:39 PM Report

.... and since this is a private site, Sootoday can put whatever rules in place they wish. Post or not, your choice.

Maybe they will ban the letter e.

So w will all hav to typ lik this.
Wisenheimer 5/1/2014 10:23:15 PM Report

A little context on the Stirling thingy.
Recently Paul Simon and his wife were arrested, after having a knock down drag out lover's spat.
The police were called after witnesses heard the yelling and screaming and feared for the couple's lives.
Holding hands in court, everything was all better and the judge let them go on their merry way.
Point being ... good thing no one was recording the back and forth. I'm sure there were a few very unfortunate remarks. There but for the grace of God go a whole world of folks.
Hunter101 5/1/2014 10:30:24 PM Report

Jim, I know those things aren't censorship. The are consequences. Re-read what I posted.

And yes, it is a private site.

But a news site that censors the comments in an anonymous comment room.

I wonder what else they censor.
Wisenheimer 5/1/2014 10:32:18 PM Report

What with the apparent moritorium on gutter talk, and such, a few regulars will be up the proverbial creek when it comes to healthy debate.
Mr. Poster 5/1/2014 10:52:47 PM Report

All will be back to normal by is all part of human nature.
rider_ 5/2/2014 12:30:57 AM Report

check out the anti-capitalist demo national news

boy do i love when twenty something white art school dropouts angry at the man for having to get a job get riled up

woop woop
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