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View Room Comments for Monday, Apr. 21 2014

Monday, April 21, 2014   by: The Soap BoxWelcome to the SooToday.com View Room. This editorial feature is for you to post comments. To comment on a specific news story please post your comment directly under the news story.
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Grump 4/21/2014 7:05:24 AM Report

Good morning everyone, time to rise and shine. I hope everyone didn't stretch their tummies too badly with dinner yesterday, then again it's easy to do with these holiday meals. I would recommend reading "Feds pull embarrassing questions from poll". I don't recommend it for Tories as I don't want to be accused of personal insults. Have a great day all.
flyhawk25 4/21/2014 7:08:22 AM Report

Good morning.
Wasn't yesterday pleasant on here?Our own Easter miracle.Of course there was the inevitable negativity and some questionable interpretation of the bible but overall we all showed that it is possible to exercise restraint and civility.
Mr. Poster 4/21/2014 7:09:37 AM Report

Time to rise and shine...get up...get up...get out of bed..enjoy your easter Monday.
theprotector 4/21/2014 7:49:44 AM Report

it was an opinion that is held by many religious scholars. Reality for me is I dont care, just enjoying people trying to defend something they know very little about. Now off for some more rabbit stew!
irishfey 4/21/2014 7:55:16 AM Report

Good Morning and it is Easter Monday so i hope that " liquid gold" will still flow. I hope no one is suffering from a chocolate hangover. Grump..Close your eyes for a minute please ,lol... I thought it was nice of Mr. Harper to extend a Happy Easter to everyone yesterday. Ok Grump, you can open them now. Thank you :) I do wonder why they ( who ever " they" are ) try and take Christ out of Christmas but have left Easter alone. Is nice to see but we should be crossing our fingers on that one...Probably lots of leftovers from yesterday, so enjoy and have a great day....
right wing 4/21/2014 8:05:34 AM Report

Great "scholarly" information on Jesus you got there from Ask-a-Muslim.com.
...but calling Jesus a Muslim is a clear denial of his divinity.
statusquo 4/21/2014 8:06:21 AM Report

"theprotector 4/20/2014 8:31:32 PM"

Interesting concept but to say it's a bit of a stretch would be a monumental understatement.

Similarity of words and phrases, dates of equinoxes etc. may in fact be proving my point that Islam was plagiarized from the Bible and the Bible/or Tora in turn was plagiarized and pieced together from ancient Egyptian Sun-worship mythology.

All those books (religions/cults) are in response to a lack of a "constitution by the people" if you will. Everything came from above and so the "ruling" classes had to invent something that appeared to be even above them to use it as a political tool to exert control over the people.

Also, it would be helpful if you could quote the sources you got that from.
I "googled" some myself and I have to say, they all seem a bit loopy .

Also, don't forget that by elevating one religion over another you are in fact dismissing any other religion as there can only be one Chief Executive Officer in the sky.

And so I dismiss them all.

Jimssm 4/21/2014 8:07:52 AM Report

Irish...

I would contend that 'they' haven't left Easter alone.


Easter Bunny = Santa Claus

There's not much religious context left once the chocolate Easter eggs have had their way.

'They' are the commercial interests that have bastardized both holidays for profit.
theprotector 4/21/2014 8:08:35 AM Report

neither one has anything to do with christ, hasnt for the majority for many many years, which is a good thing in my books. I guess all those years of trying to marry up this religion with the others that have celbrations around the same time has lead to an increasing discredit of the same.
Its tough to follow something that changes to suit the time, not just the holidays but intripriation as well. Whatever the flavor of the days is, lets change things to be able to cast the biggest net and make the most money, as with all businesses the churches are no different its about money, under the guise of "helping others". Never the less, thank-you dear lord for the food and chocolate and the gifts, bribery works wonders!
irishfey 4/21/2014 8:10:54 AM Report

Rightwing.. Good post cupcake :).. I even kept my yap shut on that one.. proud of me ?? I just made a " little "comment :) :).. Have a good day dear....
right wing 4/21/2014 8:20:22 AM Report

irishfey

Nothing like the topic of religion to keep the Blue Room all warm and fuzzy so all the "scared" posters can come out and play.

;)
Jimssm 4/21/2014 8:21:17 AM Report

I am not certain how someone can claim Jesus was a Muslim when Islam didn't exist at the time.
right wing 4/21/2014 8:22:39 AM Report

Statusquo

The next time you have a conversation with a Muslim run that "plagiarized from the bible" theory by them will you.
...and please, get back to us on it.

;)
irishfey 4/21/2014 8:23:59 AM Report

Jimssm, yes i realize that but as i said yesterday.." some select few still hold to the truth of those noted days". And the fact that folks were not saying.. Happy Bunny Day, tells us a little something. How did your boys like the Canadian Easter? I do hope they enjoyed it......
right wing 4/21/2014 8:25:21 AM Report

Jimssm

Don't go messing things up with facts.
I'm sure they are using the angle of Ishmael son of Abraham.
flyhawk25 4/21/2014 8:26:10 AM Report

Jimssm...they cannot.
My second ungergraduate degree is in Religious Studies - specifically the NT.But I know that it does no good to waste time with a discussion of religion with anyone with a closed mind and little academic back ground.
So I choose to just leave the 'discussion' to the zealots.
Bobby Nerves 4/21/2014 8:38:00 AM Report

A discussion in certain areas reminds me of the Dunning process.


Zing 4/21/2014 9:45:10 AM Report

On a different note:

A new study is finding that bio-fuel made from corn is actually worse for CO2 emissions than gasoline. All that green money is in fact being wasted.

http://tinyurl.com/kfcftat
redranger 4/21/2014 9:53:11 AM Report

Good Morning Fly
I would like to make some use of your degree in theology.
In one of protector's collection of culled crap, he uses a term which I do not recognize. Would you please explain to this old Protestant the meaning of "intripriation". It must be real and have some meaning or the learned protector would not have used it.
Jimssm 4/21/2014 10:30:46 AM Report

red....

Just a guess but I think intripriation is like inebriation but involves cheap drugs instead of alcohol.

;-)
right wing 4/21/2014 10:35:28 AM Report

intripriation: [pronounced in-trip-ria-tion] noun;

A red neck word. example of usuage., upond complechion of the Jethro Bodine sped reding and grammur corse I tuk, and upond reding stuff that was my intripriation.
right wing 4/21/2014 10:39:26 AM Report

Zing

The "green people" are not interested in the facts.

right wing 4/21/2014 10:40:58 AM Report

....or yes could be the cheap drugs, depends upon your intripriation.

;)
Bobby Nerves 4/21/2014 10:46:19 AM Report

@Grump

Bad day for bread, but it's done. Would you be able to gimme a ride?

redranger if you can make it, good time.

I don't have much knowledge about english, but intripiation sounds to me more like a latin ward, there is a ward in spanish, tripa, equivalent of guts.
Spanglish is a language in development and perhaps intripiation refers to the treatment the prison b1tch is subject to.

I know, you have to draw a long bow, but hey, why not.

It got to be related to the prison b1tch, because those in the trade seem to be experts in the meaning.

Sorry if I couldn't satisfy your curiosity.
mallet 4/21/2014 10:50:14 AM Report


Jimssm..

I agree with you that the commercial side of the Religious Holidays have taken precedence. This unfortunately is the nature of the consumer society we live in. It will take a very disasterous event to bring this back to the real meaning of the word "holy-day". The zealots on all sides of Religion have a lot to answer for, whether it be in this life or their next...
irishfey 4/21/2014 11:19:03 AM Report

Rightwing... I would love to join in on the Muslim/ Jesus debate.I do have lots to offer on that subject but by the time i looked up all the proper spelling from the Bible and the dictionary, Christ would have already returned. If i used my own spelling, Red would have my head on a platter, but at least i would have company. Stats would be there with me when he tried his theory out with the Muslims ( the bad ones). I always knew i had a rich relative somewhere.. Jethro.. :)
Zing 4/21/2014 11:47:11 AM Report

Religious holidays are good for me...I wait for the stores to drop the price of miniature chocolate bars to 70% off. I buy several boxes and store them in the cold room; my students have chocolate bars all year. I never spend more than one cent per gram ($4.54/lb).
Last time was a big haul; I purchased 9 large boxes and still have one left. Easter candy is scarce this year, but Christmas is coming.
Wisenheimer 4/21/2014 12:23:21 PM Report

Zing .. a dentist's best friend.
Grump 4/21/2014 12:34:29 PM Report

Bobby ,I'll pick you up shortly after 5.00. BRING THE BREAD. lol
Grump 4/21/2014 12:45:57 PM Report

Religious Holiday have gotten very Commercial these days. Many adults have hardened hearts and minds but Christmas and Easter still live on with a few. But they certainly live on in the hearts and minds of little children. There is always hope. Churches are generally filled to the brim on religious holidays if not at other times.
flyhawk25 4/21/2014 1:00:01 PM Report

In spite of what we might think we are still a tribal people who need to have our beliefs legitimized by others.
Harmless if used for the common good but evil when directed at others by force.
notpc 4/21/2014 1:43:08 PM Report

flyhawk

What do you mean when you say people need to have their beliefs (I assume you mean religious as opposed to scientific or others) legitimized by others?
highway1 4/21/2014 1:50:33 PM Report

All religions are the same in the sense that they all teach that people are good enough, that they just need to live good lives (good by each religions standards) and they will get to Heaven.
Except Christianity.
Christianity teaches that you are not good enough in your own self, and that you need a Savior and start life brand new, all over again, in relationship with the Creator.
notpc 4/21/2014 2:52:15 PM Report

highway1

You hit the nail on the head in distinguishing between Christianity and all other belief systems. It's the one belief that doesn't appeal to our sense of pride, ie that we are actually good enough to live up to God's absolute standards. Christianity makes it quite clear that we must discard that fallacy.
irishfey 4/21/2014 3:41:21 PM Report

It sure is nice to see the topic of Religion discussed in an adult and mature manner the way it should be... The definition of Zealots is.. a fanatic religious extremist. I think that Islam has taken over that role now and has let Christianity of today off the hook. Were there Zealots in old Bible days? yes, and also one large Christian group that many years back would have fell into that description, but they have changed.( no offence intended) It is just my opinion that smaller groups of Christians of today want peace and not war. There is always one bad apple like that Baptist creep that died not that long ago.....
Zing 4/21/2014 3:51:54 PM Report

Oh My.
Wicket 4/21/2014 4:23:07 PM Report

Just came back from a ride to our infamous Soo Locks, sending e-mails to the powers that be. Good story for SooToday to put pressure on the Cdn govt and have our city councillors and mayor make Parks Canada be accountable for the disgusting disgrace of prime waterfront and historical property. We tried to get some action five years ago to no avail. Of course, since nothing was done, deterioration is beyond a simple repair. Empty buildings deteriorating and need to be fixed up or removed; road to the end of the pier needs to have what little pavement there is left, removed, and make it a gravel road that is maintained on a regular basis. What a shame and poor reflection this is upon our city.
irishfey 4/21/2014 4:35:59 PM Report

Zing.. re.. oh My""... Was that for me?? My post was in no way to offend anyone, and if i did , i"m so sorry. All i was trying to say that years ago, many religions tried to kill folks off for not converting to their religion,, all in the name of God. The only religion that is doing that now is Islam and i"m talking about the fanatics that behead people in Gods name. I wasn"t talking about the muslims. Christianity of today is peaceful... and that Baptist guy, well he was a creep in my books... Again, sorry if anyone was offended....
lookaround 4/21/2014 5:43:32 PM Report

Canada truly needs a national energy strategy somewhat like Norway in which ALL Canadians benefit from their own resource.
rockbanger 4/21/2014 6:14:40 PM Report

CANADA-----Had a federal energy policy for the benefit of all Canadians. The concern in the late 70s early 80s was loss of revenue to Canada.

FIRA Federal Investment Revue Agency.

Then our yankee loving PM, Brian Mulroney was elected and kissed up to Bush/Reagan then scuttled it. What a mental midget.

Trudeau had the vision to see where the oil patch is today.. Trudeau tried to stop this present day scenario.

Thanks to Lying Brian the oil patch today is firmly in the hands of those friendly American Oil Giants.

Next time you vote conservative think about what you are doing. 51st State.

Can't wait for the replies...Bring em on..!!!!
lookaround 4/21/2014 6:15:35 PM Report

Two Weyburn Saskatchewan waitresses one working for 28 years had their jobs displaced by foreign workers. I thought Harper promised to investigate 2 years ago and still no action taken? But he has time to do trival travel while Canada is running amok with companies always squeezing more and more for themselves. Canada is going down in moral standards all in the name of the buck and companies use the ruse of job creation as a constant mantra. Where di all our jobs go. Thanks to free trade gone .
lookaround 4/21/2014 6:20:29 PM Report

Actually rock banger the Koche brothers own more of the oil batch than Exxon and Mobile combined. These people are dangerous to democracy as they wish to have their kingdom expanded to own pharmaceutical and all large farming and food manufacturing enterprises. That folks why conservatism is dangerous to the democratic struggles the free world is up against.
rockbanger 4/21/2014 6:39:07 PM Report

Lookaround---AWESOME STUFF.

I am amazed that you have put that together and expressed it point blank.

Pierre Trudeau was the last true leader who fought for Canada and not the US. Brian Mulroney was a US/British puppet and sellout. We did have Jean Chretian who refused to jump into Iraq--genius.

There is a fabulous book. "Tragedy and Hope" by Carroll Quigley. In this book it shows the history of how democracy in North America was purchased many moons ago by those of wealth.

Examples like the Canadian oil patch and who owns it, is scary revelation and a foreboding 'Omen' to the freedom that most Canadians think they/we have.

Today Canada is a puppy with it's belly exposed.
An example is the value of our dollar compared to the default world currency--the US greenback. Our economy has the power of huge resources, skilled workforce, stable banks and until 6 months ago a powerful dollar. Now the dollar is 8-10 cents less than the greenback? Bull-roar.

Excellent blog.

right wing 4/21/2014 6:49:10 PM Report

"Christianity teaches that you are not good enough in your own self, and that you need a Savior and start life brand new"

No it does not.
Christianity teaches that as humans we are not perfect and that as such we have much to learn.
Just take a look around the world these days.
Forget the rest of the bible, we (the human race) cannot even follow ten rules, which by the way are pretty dam good ones to live by.
You need to do some reading about the significance of the blood of the cross and then you will understand the meaning of Jesus as a Savior.
Wisenheimer 4/21/2014 6:49:47 PM Report

Koch ... get your devils straight.
100 million to cancer research, annual grants to 270 universities.
Demonizing the Kochs, denying XL, making up a war on women, is Obama stirring up his low information base.
One good thing about having your first black President, is you find out they can be as bad as your worst white President. Jimmy Carter comes to mind.

Hunter101 4/21/2014 6:55:16 PM Report

Apparently tomorrow is Earth day. I'll celebrate by turning every light on in my house followed by each appliance and turn my heat up full blast.

You know, to get my money's worth out of that flat rate service charge.
right wing 4/21/2014 6:56:25 PM Report

Rockbanger...you and lookabout might want to interrupt your love affair for a bit and do some real reading on P.E.T., he was the overall worst P.M. Canada ever had.
Prove to us that Pierre Trudeau was affirmatively a good thing for Canada.
right wing 4/21/2014 6:59:11 PM Report

Wisen,

64% of Americans do not believe Obama to be the first "black" president.
He has a black father from Kenya and a white mother, he is mixed race.

92% of Americans believed Jimmy Carter was actually cold when he wore those sweaters....



lookaround 4/21/2014 7:05:49 PM Report

Yes Wisen I hear but still the Koch (spelling and who cares?) are trying to buy themselves a country, Take my point first and your point last because what they give all entrepreneurs give so it is a drop in the bucket. North America was founded on hard work ethics. Work hard and get ahead. Not work hard get rich and destroy the people and the land and take no prisoners.
lookaround 4/21/2014 7:11:19 PM Report

Barak Obama didn't put America into a WMD fake war that cost lives and trillions upon trillions dollars and he was not the president that almost took The US and the world my intellect tells me into the brink of financial bankruptcy. I am right about this.
Hunter101 4/21/2014 7:17:51 PM Report

Right, he didn't do that, but he promised gas prices wouldn't go about $2 a gallon and now they're double. He also put the ACA into effect which has already cost the country piles of money and also overrun hospitals with people waving their health insurance card so they can see a doctor for a common cold (like they already do here in Canada, except the U.S. has 10 times more people).

He also didn't do anything to better the U.S. economic situation but only let it get worse.

If he was a good president, he would have knew what to do with this mess before he was elected president and had completed that by now.
irishfey 4/21/2014 7:18:10 PM Report

Rightwing.. Amen to your post on Christ! The world is in a mess and those 10 simple rules would change the whole world!.. My Hubby and i had a spat about Obama... Hubby insisted he was black! He couldn"t see whereas having a white Mother fit into the picture to make him mixed! Gee that Man has a thick skull ,lol.. I actually laughed outloud at one of your posts, but i can"t say which one but i bet you know ,lol... Night cupcake...
Hunter101 4/21/2014 7:18:39 PM Report

And he also didn't catch Osama Bin Laden but he tried to take credit for that too...
right wing 4/21/2014 7:19:32 PM Report

Tomorrow is Earth Day...???

I am going to drink bottled water all day.
Beat up some seals.
Burn a tire.
Jump up and down stomping on some earth.
Paint a giant carbon footprint on my front lawn.
Throw darts at a David Suzuki poster.

...or maybe I'll do some fuzzy wuzzy enviro-wacko stuff.

Follow a stream just to see where it goes.
Spit on a S.U.V.
Sniff the air.
Frolic in some flowers.
Burn my house down using candles.
Chase a storm cloud.




lookaround 4/21/2014 7:22:58 PM Report

Harper is out and he is lower in the polls and that is all I care about. No I am not a Harper hater but tired of my paycheck being ripped lower by higher cost of EVERTTHING. 9 years of inaction but rehashing the same old same old is all Canadians can stomach at this point with jobs heading south or being taken over by FSW. I am also tired of when the world burps the price oil goes up or any made up excuse at their whim. Refineries are over and under capacitated, cold winter blah blah and who pays? The average Canadian. I love the way Norway has a national strategy that any natural gas royalties are given back to the people and rightfully and undeniably so. No instead they take everything make the land unliveable( I worked in FORT MC). Dirty filthy place and the cost of everything just unbelievable.
rockbanger 4/21/2014 7:25:17 PM Report

Jimmy Carter

Realize that Jimmy Carter is a Nuclear Physicist and there was a partial meltdown at a Canadian reactor in the late 1950s on the Bruce Peninsula. Read..!
Jimmy Carter was one of the physicists who came to Canada as a young man and helped resolve the crisis.
Now what credentials have all the presidents since Carter had...?

The list is below:
An-actor/CIA- war monger/philanderer/idiot son of CIA war monger/ then a black fellow. Not huge credentials for this list! How many of these rodeo clowns were backed by Koch-family?

Most neo-cons or modern day Nazis talk terrible of Carter... Why, because Carter was not a warmonger he cut against the post WWII ideology of war.

Maybe all you war-mongering-neocons should sign your children up to fight the next needless war.
In fact our present Conservative government has a loudmouth-stooge by the name of Baird over in the Ukraine every second week telling us that we need to prepare our country to fight for? For? What for?

If your a conservative who is still in love with Bush era thinking... then rational debate is not attainable.

But I did read and reply to your blog.
lookaround 4/21/2014 7:26:28 PM Report

You are right 101 Bush got Osama. LOL My little pork chop.
lookaround 4/21/2014 7:29:25 PM Report

right wing go ahead no one on here cares what you do? Just don't disparage someone else's ideals.
Wisenheimer 4/21/2014 7:30:40 PM Report

The "Oil Patch" is owned by the provinces of Alberta and Saskatchewan, Canada and the publicly companies, that produce the BOES.
If they are private companies they still pay the same taxes and royalties.
The "public" companies are just that, owned by the public.
(you should buy some.) The "have not" provinces benefit greatly from the transfer payments generated by the activities of the oil companies. Those who own shares of the companies, also benefit from capital gains and dividends paid. These owners include the CPP and OTTPP, and most other pension funds that puts a check into your mailbox. Any other interpretation is populist bs.
P.S. If you're waiting for Ontario, Quebec or the Maritimes to support your local industries and your way of life, don't hold your breath.
P.S.S. Stock pick of the day .. "buy TRP" on current weakness.
right wing 4/21/2014 7:33:03 PM Report

Hunter101

The only thing that "caught" Bin Laden were bullets from the navy seal assault rifles.

rockbanger 4/21/2014 7:34:51 PM Report

Hello Bloggers....

This blog site is actually discussing/debating..!
Whether you like what the other is saying or not..... for the most part it all sounds mature.

What happened.. Good stuff.
Now stay at it..

So, no-one slide off to blogging trash.

WOW.
mallet 4/21/2014 7:36:58 PM Report


Not directed at any one person, but didn't Canada at one time have an national oil company called Petro Canada? Was this not set up under the auspices of a Mr Trudeau and his minority government and also A National Energy Program also under his watch? Then of course the "Chin" cancelled the NEP and introduced the privatisation of Petro Canada, after they had been running for some time. Personally I think we should do the same as Libya did which was to Nationalise the oil and gas industries, like Ghadafi did, oh blast, then the yanks would come and bomb the shit out of us, then we could ask for a "marshall like plan" and become like Germany!!!
irishfey 4/21/2014 7:37:02 PM Report

R.W..re.."follow a stream" etc.,lol,lol. I can"t see the keyboard for the tears ,lol... Nighty night.. :):)
Wisenheimer 4/21/2014 7:46:09 PM Report

Jimmy Carter was a nuclear physicist. He served on nuclear subs with the father of nuclear submarine technology, Admiral Rickenbacker, he is also a peanut farmer.
Ronald Reagan was a 3rd rate actor and 1st rate dunce, according to the press.
Barrack Obama is a community organizer and a long dreamed symbolic choice for President.
None of this has any bearing on how good a President they were, or will be.
History is the only arbitrator, and Carter is still not looking good, just yet.
Oh .. Syria is reported to have used chlorine gas against it's citizens in February.
theprotector 4/21/2014 7:51:48 PM Report

Its funny how every religion always has the true god (s)! Lets look at the orginal single god religions. Noe the Christians eliminated the one and that left Christian and the orginal form of islam (sorry name escapes me at the moment). And of course for century's the Christians have been trying to kill those who dont beleive and vis versa. Even in modern day there are more fanatical Christian groups then any other religion in the world.
Lets face it if you need to beleive in this to get yourself through the day since you lack the moral compass on your own so be it. Its a choice but dont become fanatical about it and say as a fact that you are right and everyone else is wrong. My personal opinion is that religion is a private matter as a matter of fact your own bible says that practicing your religion outside the home is punishable by death.
Wisenheimer 4/21/2014 7:53:22 PM Report

Petro Canada was a basket case and is just now being crapped out by Suncor.
Oh yeah the NEP .. Albertans loved that nonsense from our worst P.M.
highway1 4/21/2014 7:55:09 PM Report

Right wing, you obviously do not understand Christianity.
Being born again means you need a Savior, you cannot pay the price on your own merit, no matter how highly you think of yourself.
Christianity certainly teaches you are not good enough in your own self, and that you are incapable of knowing the Creator unless you are Born Again.
It's not a matter of what you know, it's who you know. It's not a matter about knowing about someone, it's about knowing them.
Religion and theology will teach you about God, but religion and theology will never bring you to a relationship with God.
This can only happen on a personal level, at a moment of humbling and surrender.
nanag 4/21/2014 7:55:11 PM Report

My car has turned into a moaning,groaning, rattling, clanking mass of metal(?) fiberglass and rubber.

I am concerned that things are falling off..like the tires, muffler,tailpipe and whatever else has shaken loose underneath.

I used to enjoy driving my nice little car. Now I am uncomfortable because of how noisy it has become .. (sigh) and because I fear what I don't have a clue about...and the true fear of the expense to repair what the roads in this town have torn asunder.



Bobby Nerves 4/21/2014 7:56:59 PM Report

niner... ahhhhh
rockbanger 4/21/2014 7:57:57 PM Report

Hey Wisenheimer

How many of the stocks you mention do you own?
R U still in Florida?

NOW, if you think that Syria used gas at any time against their own people...? Think again. The first gas attack they were accused of turned out to be US backed rebels making gas from US materials.

I do like your blogs and keep em coming.

Remember, Carter replaced the biggest scumbag US president in history... Tricky-Dick... Technically Gerry Ford but Ford was just Tricky-Dicks clown-boy.

Bobby Nerves 4/21/2014 8:04:16 PM Report


Wisenheimer, don't you think about the abuse of the freedom of speech you are walking into?

My second question will be, what authority do you have to judge anyone else, leave alone Carter, Reagan, Obama and any other mail delivery person in the USA.

Thirdly, do you think they care about your judgement call and you really think you are superior to them and that's why they got to be President of the firs nation on earth while you, Mister Wisenheimer spread your intellect in Sootoday?

Why don't you try a run at Alderman?

You're laughable.
Bobby Nerves 4/21/2014 8:06:38 PM Report

Yes, I know your answer, if ever there is a reasonable one, first no firs.

lookaround 4/21/2014 8:46:16 PM Report

We all agree with you Bobby and you are absolutely right. Wisenheimer and I use his full name may be money smart but on the economics, and political democracy not so much and why do the right minded or as I term them the Cons always have to rehash the past. Unless you have a magic carpet you cannot go back and you cannot go to your future so it is the now that is important. Don't worry Justin Trudeau is not his father he lives in a different realm where the conservatives are the Reform and not the heyday Conservatives of um um who was the worst Prime minister um slips my mind. It almost rhymed with baloney oh yes the chin. Was that Mulroney? Yes that was it Mulroney with the big chin and the spending and the ballooning of the debt.
soowat 4/21/2014 8:52:57 PM Report

Wisen

Worst American president...Tricky Dicky Nixon..Hands down
statusquo 4/21/2014 9:53:43 PM Report

Ronald Reagan is mostly responsible for the financial disaster the U.S finds itself in. Under Reagan's reign spending went out of control and deregulation of financial institutions created a fertile ground for a ponzi scheme that finally came home to roost in 2008.
Even Bush senior called the Reagan economic policies "Voodoo-economics".
So, as far as economic harm is concerned, Reagan is by far the worst president the U.S had to endure. The crown for the most stupid still rests on Bush Junior's head.
Nixon was not a bad president.
He established the EPA, he pushed hard for desegregation in schools, fought for gender equality in the workplace , started the nuclear weapon's dismantling with the Soviet Union, re established relations with China and essentially ended the War in Vietnam.
Nixon is certainly not the worst president the U.S ever had.
Obama on the other hand is also not a bad President.
The U.S economy is faring far better now than many countries affected by the economic meltdown of 2008.
Obama inherited a mess that has been in the making and perpetuated for decades.
He really hasn't done a bad job at all.
A POTUS's record will be measured long after he is gone.
mallet 4/21/2014 9:55:03 PM Report


Lookaround..

You just said you cannot look into the future, so you anymore than anyone else can say what Trudeau jr will do if he is elected to the PM's job. I, and you, can only go by what he has done up to this point, which is what exactly. He has been an MP for a couple of years, he has little experience of foreign affairs, but neither does Baird either, he has little experience of finance, but neither does the new guy for Harper. He has used some cuss words in the House, and he has distanced himself from the Senators, but they haven't distanced themselves from him. I cannot mention his previous occupation as that will upset a lot of posters, but as the old saying goes that those that can do and those that cannot do something else. I would perhaps have more respect had he had a little more experience before becoming the leader of the third party. Does all that mean he would make a bad PM, I honestly do not know, anymore than I know if Harper will change his tune, which I doubt. Does being a conservative mean I have to agree with everything the party does, no, but that does not mean I disapprove of everything the others stand for either...
lookaround 4/21/2014 10:04:22 PM Report

I am of the old adage don't repeat mistakes and as an investor I take my chances, what do we have to lose? Jobs? Less taxes? Better funding of Healthcare or lack of with Harper trying to dismantle the Canadian Healthcare Pact. I rather take a road less travelled and come what may. What can we lose? A change is good. Canadians deserve to have a transparent government that is there to govern not to change Canada to their idealic vision and version and a government that doesn't favour one region over another.
Wisenheimer 4/21/2014 10:29:14 PM Report

Bobby .. your posts are incomprehesible.
Rockb ... I own all stocks I mention.
Got back recently ... global warming was all over the place.
Nixon was a much better President than the 3rd rate burglary suggests.
I am grateful for Brian's value added tax and Nafta.
I wish stats would " behave".
Zing 4/22/2014 12:50:37 AM Report

"Baptist creep that died not that long ago...."


Irish...thought you were a religious person. Just thought better of you.
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