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View Room Comments for Friday, Apr. 11 2014

Friday, April 11, 2014   by: The Soap BoxWelcome to the SooToday.com View Room. This editorial feature is for you to post comments. To comment on a specific news story please post your comment directly under the news story.
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Mr. Poster 4/11/2014 6:29:21 AM Report

It is indeed a good Friday,,,we are STILL here.
David Poluck 4/11/2014 6:49:08 AM Report

Good Morning to you as well Mr Poster!
And a Happy Friday to all!
Grump 4/11/2014 7:19:03 AM Report

Good morning David, Mr P. and everyone. If it wasn't for future snow forecasts I would believe Spring is almost upon us. That must have been an "H" of a large job rw went on Wed. morning or it was in St Johns. No word ,no excuses, nada. Come on rw your fans and the rest of us await the story. Bobby if you can escape the man cave today call me for lunch. Have a great day all.
Bobby Nerves 4/11/2014 8:10:36 AM Report

Good Friday morning to all.

I don't think so Grump.

It's not working as planed.




Bobby Nerves 4/11/2014 9:03:41 AM Report


What Barack Obama and Rob Ford have in common?




I have nothing to do with the pipe!



mallet 4/11/2014 10:28:05 AM Report


Pretty quiet in here this morning, what's gone wrong today. I know it's a friday and the sun is shining, but it's not a normal day without some disagrements, come on people, lets argue!!
soowat 4/11/2014 10:30:50 AM Report

mallet

OK---you're wrong. That's my argument for today lol
redranger 4/11/2014 11:06:57 AM Report

Mallet
..any predictions (heart and head) on the World Cup yet?
mallet 4/11/2014 11:13:06 AM Report


Red Ranger..

Yes, I have a feeling it will be the Home side, and if not them then another South American side that will take it.. I do not see any of the European sides making it further than the Semi Finals... But what the heck do I know, my hometown team is battling relegation...
steelworker 4/11/2014 11:21:24 AM Report

I leave the kids alone for a week and the place goes to Hell.
fatafr 4/11/2014 11:34:29 AM Report

I have a topic that concerns the majority of us. Budget deliberations begins on Monday. I would like to see some of your comments and suggestions that can be brought forward Monday. Your input would be appreciated. For some of you who would rather just criticize me, maybe you could save that for another day. It's quite obvious that there are intelligent, thought provoking people on this site who are knowledgeable, conscientious and have something to offer. Thanks.
Brietsy 4/11/2014 11:46:28 AM Report

I respect that budged deliberations are beginning today, however, as there is a majority government at the time, there is going to be no question of it passing.
Brietsy 4/11/2014 11:46:52 AM Report

er. monday. monday, not today
Mr. Poster 4/11/2014 11:49:20 AM Report

How about requiring EVERY city dept to somehow reduce its budget by...say...5 percent ?
Brietsy 4/11/2014 12:04:21 PM Report

wait a second... we're talking city budget? ignore my previous comment(s)
Brietsy 4/11/2014 12:06:09 PM Report

If every department reduced it's budget by 5%, there would be 5% less potholes filled. 5% slower response time to power outages/watermain breaks/water issues, 5% worse everything. What needs to be done is to balance our needs with our money. that's kinda what they do at these meetings, right?
flyhawk25 4/11/2014 12:08:36 PM Report

Whatever the outcome do not fall into the trap of a budget that is too low based on a fear of a primary employer closing.That's what got us into the mess we are in.
Stop the mantra of 'seniors will lose their homes' if taxes increase.Let the market prevail.
As for where to spend - let's keep some focus on the downtown core.Healthy cities have vibrant downtowns.The unhealthy ones have malls and too many vehicles.
Finally - keep communicating with the taxpayers.It makes you unique.
Mr. Poster 4/11/2014 12:12:35 PM Report

BRIESTY...every dept has a little "fat" built in so 5 percent may not hurt that much. By the same token I would not want councillors to come in with a ridiculously low budget because they are seeking re-election come this fall. It will be a balancing act for sure.
Brietsy 4/11/2014 12:16:48 PM Report

yeah, every department does have some "fat" as it were, but that wiggle room is very important. Look at our snow removal budget for this year. They used their wiggle room, and then everyone else's wiggle room. I'm a bit of an odd duck, because I do not mind paying a little extra tax, if it means making infrastructure better.

I know it's not great, but everyone has a little wriggle room. and it's not that much extra...
soowat 4/11/2014 12:30:39 PM Report

steelworker

If you leave the kids alone for a week and,as you wrote, the place goes to hell,it doesn't say much for your parenting skills.
irishfey 4/11/2014 12:34:57 PM Report

Brietsy... " wriggle room?""... Tell that to my clothes after this long winter.. :)....
Brietsy 4/11/2014 12:35:38 PM Report

lulz.
Wild Turkey 4/11/2014 1:05:45 PM Report

Irish Fried---Wed.4:47---"I will only post in the RED ROOM"
Colour blind?
Irish temper making idle threats again?
Did
it take less than 48 hours for you to chill out?
Too many good posters have left to risk the loss of any more.
So----take it easy on us morons and non-beliebers--O.K.?
irishfey 4/11/2014 1:18:13 PM Report

Gobble, Gobble... Changed my mind i guess :).. You do know where the Exit is, right??.. Tip.... Stay outa the feilds ,lol
David Poluck 4/11/2014 2:00:11 PM Report

Good job Frank go to the people!

It' is good of you to ask but..the time for suggestions has been missed...at least for this years budget on topics such as;
Salaries and benefits
Grants to others
The preliminary budget has been out for three months and that's a good thing.
I am wondering why there has been no effort or initiative by the Finance Committee to hold hearings about various aspects of that preliminary budget.
As you are aware this has been a suggestion forwarded from the SSMAR finance group on multiple occasions.

What purpose does the city finance committee serve in the budget process if not to communicate with the public?

My suggestion would be to further and improve the process's of communication between the Finance Committee and the ratepayers of this community. To move beyond the current preliminary budget input sessions and establish and commit to holding monthly open interactive workshops in order to go above and beyond the current method.

Time to make articles written with lines such as City facing big costs for building repairs Councillors are busily "sharpening their pencils" at the last minute.'a thing of the past.














flyhawk25 4/11/2014 2:08:07 PM Report

A tasteless comment.
Mr. Poster 4/11/2014 2:09:41 PM Report

steelworker has hit an all time low with that comment...disgusting !!!
steelworker 4/11/2014 2:18:29 PM Report

Go outside and play children. It's a nice day out there and it might blow some of the stench off.
Brietsy 4/11/2014 2:36:10 PM Report

I know it's in our nature to point at things that bother us, and warn people away from them, as some earlier comments have done, but perhaps the best thing to do in a case like this is just change the subject, or in the case of an interjection, completely ignore the post. people will get bored and go away if people stop noticing their inappropriate posts.

now that that's done, I have mixed feelings about the monthly budget meetings. I agree that they are a good thing for transparancy, however, I feel as if they would be greatly underattended. Unless a big button issue is being raised, I doubt many people would go out.
irishfey 4/11/2014 2:41:27 PM Report

David... I have a hard time trying to manage my own budget let alone to try and give advise to others ,lol.. I leave that to the folk that know what they are doing :)... Have a great day David....
irishfey 4/11/2014 2:47:23 PM Report

Brietsy.. re.. " it"s in our nature "... That is good advise dear, hard sometimes, but i will try....
KENNEDY919 4/11/2014 4:09:41 PM Report

Public Sector Governance at all levels of government are all out of touch in dealing with the realities of the current fiscal mess we are now in.
Federal and provincial governments are broke. We are carrying deficits that are not sustainable for a country possessing such a small population relative to the rest of the world. Our ability to tax is already at the maximum ceiling.The government receives 27% on every dollar earned, 13 % HST on every dollar spent not to mentioned all the tax revenues associated with fuel,cigarettes, alcohol and property tax. Prior to 1968 there was no HST or revenue from casinos and lotteries yet the governments of this country all operated in the black.
As we hear about the mis-spending of tax dollars by senators,Indian chiefs and politicians we must as a country not accept the increase of any taxes at any level unless we can be assured that the most competent people are managing our tax dollars. Before taxes are increased at any level the politicians must fix the calamity of current mis-spent tax dollars.
Brietsy 4/11/2014 4:40:32 PM Report

I respect that you feel that money has been mismanaged, but as they say, it takes money to make money. What we need is an increas in services. Better roads, better pipes, better services in general
right wing 4/11/2014 5:37:13 PM Report

"Too many good posters have left to risk the loss of any more."

Certainly agree with you there but it has nothing to do with irishfey.

flyhawk25 4/11/2014 5:56:06 PM Report

To continue on the theme of fiscal responsibility in government...
For a number of months I have noticed that one gas station in the east end seems to raise its prices occasionally midweek for self-serve.All the time a station close by that pumps gas for customers remains lower.
Then I noticed that the DND trucks from the armory and other users from the public sector also pay the raised price.
I assume it's because they have accounts in the former.
I have a credit card dedicated to that place but pay cash to save a nickel a litre less and have someone pump my gas.
Might that be an example of a problem?
Bobby Nerves 4/11/2014 7:21:10 PM Report


Fly, the story, whether we like it or not is that we could not be entitled to spent money that our kids and grandchildren will have to pay

That's morally obscene.

And if we have to spent money far beyond our possibilities, at least we should expect those moneys to be recycled within our city when possible.

That's why, even when many could be prejudicial about it, the lowers stratum of our society are the ones sustaining the local economy in grand part.
Low income earnings should I've said, because there is no chance to travel and spent money, either in cash or in credit cards, helping foreign economies with the local resources and avoiding the essential recycling of the taxation system.

I know it's a difficult item to swallow, but it's part or the whole problem, together with a public sector with salaries and benefits that are only a dream for taxpayers that will never have access to such a manna.
Prometheus 4/11/2014 7:57:09 PM Report

For Flyhawk

I assume you are trying to say that DND and other public sector users are being ripped off at the gas pump or there is something else amiss.

The basic flaw in your observation is that you really have no idea what DND is paying for their gas (and no it should not be transparent as it is a business factor). In most cases, large volume users negotiate a price based on a number of factors such as volume and grade. They use credit type cards at the local pumps but the settlement between the buyer and the seller often takes place at the central corporate level. Based on personal experience I would be very surprised if the corporate users were paying the price advertised at the pump or gas station.
flyhawk25 4/11/2014 8:19:41 PM Report

Interesting point and one I did not consider.
I was asking a question based on an observation.
If what you write is accurate it is good information.
mallet 4/11/2014 8:26:49 PM Report

Kennedy and Bobby N..

I liked the headline of the Sault Star about how the council is pondering spending the taxpayers money.. Now I have a theory that the council should be pondering how to save the taxpayers money.! Starting with getting value for the money they spend. I heard a whisper it cost $100grand for the report about how many of the council (taxpayers) assets were in need of repair. Do they not have engineers on staff??? do they all work their 2040 hours per year in their offices on issues??? Consultants make more off municipal councils than anyone else does and yet councils employ staff that could do the job. Then there is the Need versus Want, until the houses are in order Federal, Provincial, and Municipal perhaps the Want should be put on hold for a while.. I want a heck of a lot of things, do I need them, Ehh , not really I can do without for a while until such time I can afford to go buy them...Perhaps Politicians ... AND people ... should bear that in mind...
irishfey 4/11/2014 9:08:38 PM Report

Rightwing.... Thank you cupcake :)... Night all....
Bobby Nerves 4/11/2014 10:11:09 PM Report

@redranger:

The blind salesman was a great joke.

Would see if we can match with another good one tomorrow.
Bobby Nerves 4/11/2014 10:17:25 PM Report

@ mallet:

Great three holy maries Mallet, the dildo one is great.

Watch out, the drunkards are vomiting all over the board.
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