David Poluck 3/14/2014 6:03:01 AM Report
Wooh hooo!!!! It's.......FRIDAY!!!!
Good Morning one and all!
Grump 3/14/2014 6:33:14 AM Report
Good morning David and everyone still snoozing. Bounder I can understand a pellet stove being too complicated for you also you probably replaced original parts with mopar. I don't think Chrysler has much experience with pellet stoves. lol. The big thing for me is you can put your hand directly on the outlet pipe and not burn you hand so it certainly is much safer. As I said I bought 150 bags at 4.00 each, still have 30 or 40 bags left and have cut roughly 200 per month off my hydro bill. If I were not taking dead trees off the properties I take care of and using them for firewood I would likely get rid of the wood stove in the shop. Next time you need operating instructions or good advice on where to shop send the message "please help". LMAO. Have a great day all, you too bonehead.
bounder 3/14/2014 6:46:25 AM Report
Ah my little butterball shows up, more garbage spewing , always I I I I I, did this been there done that , in love with himself.
theprotector 3/14/2014 7:13:56 AM Report
lets start the day with a big group hug, shall we??
Spellchecker 3/14/2014 7:17:40 AM Report
I have discovered the former blue room poster, Prolific, under one of the news stories. She is now going by the name Powerwise.
Bobby Nerves 3/14/2014 7:19:47 AM Report
Poserwise? Mrs. Fartalot!
Javaman 3/14/2014 7:21:28 AM Report
Is Marissa back ?
Pink Peony 3/14/2014 7:29:15 AM Report
rw, I believe you re: pellet stoves. There's more to go wrong with them too. Also, I don't like the fact that they depend on electricity...no power equals no heat. They're more expensive and they use a manufactured product. Not for me! I've been doing a lot of googling the past year with regards to wood stoves. There are some great forums and information out there!! Really helpful in understanding how to maximize the efficiency of a wood stove.
Javaman, it is interesting how things seem to be going full circle. Getting a woodlot would be great!
Mallet/bounder, I too like the idea of the exercise/work involved with handling of the wood. A splitter would be nice. I was surprised to see how expensive they are! I'm just going to have to buy my hardwood split already.
My electricity costs will drop by at least $1000 a year, probably more considering electricity rates are going up every year for the next few years. The cost of wood to heat this little house may cost me $400 a year tops!
Spellchecker 3/14/2014 7:30:42 AM Report
Javaman, she is indeed. I hope she turns up here. She's a riot.
Spellchecker 3/14/2014 7:33:32 AM Report
The comments from the ones that want her banned are pretty funny too, lol.
theprotector 3/14/2014 7:38:06 AM Report
so....no group hug this morning?
Pink Peony 3/14/2014 7:40:24 AM Report
Bobby Nerves 3/14/2014 7:45:56 AM Report
Enbridge is requesting an increase in the price of the service in Ontario: R U ready?
40%, and with the added taxes will round 50% and it will average $ 400 a year increase per household.
Sadly we are in the hands of speculators, the foods we eat have no substance, no nutrition values and the price is handled by speculator and the same is happening with the energy we need to make our houses livable.
Just Curious 3/14/2014 7:46:25 AM Report
Definitely Prolific, Spelly... We now have two Pro's to talk to so we will have to be gender specific...:)
Bobby Nerves 3/14/2014 7:48:14 AM Report
tp, did you heard that joke about the lovers helping undressing each other before and dressing after?
Well, hug this one!
David Poluck 3/14/2014 7:52:59 AM Report
Watching CBC this morning...they are predicting that the price of natural gas is set to increase by 40%
Javaman 3/14/2014 8:01:14 AM Report
It gets more difficult every year to be a home owner. Those with huge houses(more size than they really need) will be hard hit by a 40 percent increase.
Just Curious 3/14/2014 8:04:57 AM Report
Grump, if I was you I would hang onto those pellets by the looks of the long-range forecast for March.. This winter is just not letting go and the latest long-range for summer is no hell either. May be able to put the toque and parka away by the end of April...:(.
right wing 3/14/2014 8:10:10 AM Report
Pellet stoves do not use much electricity.
The auger which loads pellets into the burning pot and the fan(s) are about it.
I used to purchase the pellets by the skid but I found if you did not purchase a good quality pellet the same heat was not realized and your burning pot would get plugged up.
I did not see any significant savings on heating cost but the pellet stove was easy to operate and completely approved by the insurance company.
I suppose if you were using electricity as a heat source given the cost today one might realize a savings.
Wood stove technology has come a long ways and once the installation is certified you can get insurance.
You can't beat the heat from a wood fire.
Bobby Nerves 3/14/2014 8:14:00 AM Report
And now, we'll know the truth.
USA is sending the P-8A Poseidon to the Indian Ocean and for a real search.
When all the emperors, kings and ayatollahs wannabe fail, then the real one is called in.
Putin is busy poking the world with the nuclear heads, and now we know that perhaps Obama and his team needs no propaganda nor hairless naked chest pictures.
Bobby Nerves 3/14/2014 8:15:21 AM Report
Hey white ring, how's the weather down there my chum?
theprotector 3/14/2014 8:17:41 AM Report
OH my JC you are so offensive how dare you! You are a horrible person, shame on you! hmm naw cant do it...I LOVE YOU MAN!!
theprotector 3/14/2014 8:18:36 AM Report
right wing 3/14/2014 8:22:01 AM Report
The increase has yet to be approved but it is still not good news.
Wisenheimer 3/14/2014 8:22:50 AM Report
Good nat. gas stocks/Co.s to ponder.
Talisman (dirt cheap)
Make your $400 back!
Just Curious 3/14/2014 8:23:42 AM Report
Protector, you are in a good mood this morning...Totally out of character but nice....:)
right wing 3/14/2014 8:25:29 AM Report
...and today we have a perfect example of how those with limited intellect can entertain each other.
..one grunts and the other does a BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
theprotector 3/14/2014 8:31:52 AM Report
oh my sir lighten up it was funny....with your stance on so many issues on the right and your unwaviering thought process of all things white are superiour, I found it very very funny!
Pink Peony 3/14/2014 8:33:34 AM Report
rw, but they do use electricity. As I said, no power equals no heat. I will depend on it to heat my home. For me, the very fact that it depends on electricity to function negates anything positive about a pellet stove.
theprotector 3/14/2014 8:34:23 AM Report
what about a solar switch?
right wing 3/14/2014 8:41:34 AM Report
I understand what you are saying I was simply pointing out that they are not considered an appliance that consumes large amounts of hydro....in other words for most it is not usually included in the purchase decision.
bounder 3/14/2014 8:46:03 AM Report
yes good exercise, I use to cut everything and then split it all and then pile it, saved myself some boredom by cutting a few logs splitting and piling right away , built my own log splitter , had it fourteen years and works just fine.
Pink Peony 3/14/2014 8:52:58 AM Report
It seems that certain necessities, like fuel and electricity for example, just keep climbing and climbing in price. It's as if the people who manufacture and/or sell these things know that people need them and will always pay for them, so they raise the prices in order to get more profit. I see the same thing happening with manufactured pellets too as pellet stoves are becoming more popular. It was no surprise to me that natural gas was going to climb in price. I truly hate supporting greedy companies!! If have a choice, I will choose to not support them.
irishfey 3/14/2014 8:54:43 AM Report
Pink Peopy.... This is our 2nd. Winter here and with our load of logs ( cost $900.00) and we will have enough left for next winter , maby two more. We have a med. size home but as i said before, we have a very large window that gets the sun all day. I always am leary that the power may go out and try and have backups for everything if it does. Someone said that the Pellet stove was cool to the touch? Well, we can cook on the top of ours if needed. You know that sometimes when you purchase a product then a few years down the road you need a part for it and find out that they are out of stock or are not making them any more for some stupid reason like they are to be found hazzardous (??,lol) to your health? Well that"s one of the reasons we didn"t get one.. maby one day there are no more pellets. In an extreme case, there is always something you can burn in a woodstove.. always scraps of wood available,, pAllets, shrub, trim, books etc.... you get my drift... We have a small gas heater downstairs so now i will invest in one of those Infra red heaters to cut out that cost and if the power does fail, then we still have the gas we can put back on... A generater is always a handy thing to have too.... Good luck in your choice,, but i would urge you to go with wood.
Pink Peony 3/14/2014 8:55:05 AM Report
Wisenheimer, hmmm. I never considered that. I've never played the stock market before.
Gurpy 3/14/2014 8:57:25 AM Report
I agree! I`m looking at other options to avoid lining someone else`s pockets. This is ridiculous!
theprotector 3/14/2014 9:04:58 AM Report
irishfey 3/14/2014 9:06:47 AM Report
P.P.... Forgot to add.. get a woodstove with the glass doors, always nice to watch the wood burn and helps you to not haveing to keep opening the door all the time to check on the fire....Pallets ( you can get them anywhere for free ) cut up in thin pieces as they make great kindling.
Gurpy 3/14/2014 9:06:48 AM Report
You read my mind!
Pink Peony 3/14/2014 9:11:19 AM Report
Irish, I like the fact that I will be able to cook on my wood stove too!! The other things you mentioned, yes, I've also considered in making my decision a couple of years ago. I just had to save for it and now I'm ready! Woohoo :) My house is small, one level and no basement, just a crawl space. Very well insulated too. I had the heat in the LR off the day before yesterday and yesterday, didn't even turn it on at night and it stayed at 65F in the house, yesterday it dropped to 62F. I think I may find it too warm with my wood stove but like you, I can always open a window or the door.
irishfey 3/14/2014 9:22:26 AM Report
Pink Peony.. LOL.. You WILL be opening your doors and windows next winter,, trust me on that,lol.. Good way to get fresh air if you don"t want to go outside ,lol... Bless you dear... Go to Vernes Hardwear, it"s stiil open i hope... you can get some neat things from there to go with the woodstove... Cast iron frypans, coffee pots etc. We have made popcorn on our stove ,lol,lol
David Poluck 3/14/2014 9:33:32 AM Report
Irish...no more Verne's.:(
Pink Peony 3/14/2014 9:36:43 AM Report
I already have a couple of cast iron frying pans. I've been practicing with them, cooking on a grill over a fire in my fire pit. Not too mention that they would do a wonderful job clobbering someone over the head dare they try to enter my home without my permission!! LOL!
sAUCEY 3/14/2014 9:38:25 AM Report
I have a pellet stove and, i understand about the manufactored product but they are actaully made cleaner than wood. also yes it does depend on electricity so no power no heat but i have gas forced air as a back up for my home and some new pellet stoves now have an emergency option where if the power goes out it has a 12 hour back up battery. i purchase my pellets at rona, they are made in Quebec and throw a lot of nice heat, i have bought the ones from east end lyons and they are by far the best but never in stock. its important to read the ash amount aswell as i found that american pellets required me to clean my stove much more often..
irishfey 3/14/2014 9:44:01 AM Report
David.. Your kidding! Gee , another great store overpowered by the big ones ? I went to school with the Merrifield kids. Saddened to hear that...... P.P.. lol,lol
Just Curious 3/14/2014 9:50:19 AM Report
saucy, um, gas forced air means no power, no heat there either. I used to have an old dinosaur gravity furnace in one house I owned. It took up half the basement but you always had heat no matter what..:).And it really doesn't matter how you try, if you don't have your own wood you are still lining someone's pockets. I can't get over how much they get for a face cord of wood now. A cord of wood used to be a cord of wood and it took two trips with a pickup to get it home...:)
Spellchecker 3/14/2014 9:52:22 AM Report
Prolific (Powerwise) disappeared again.
Wild Turkey 3/14/2014 10:00:41 AM Report
Some dozen countries are out searching for that lost plane.Must be something very interesting aboard (or someone).
Since 1948 some 83 planes have vanished without a trace.These are all planes that carried more than 14 people.I'm assuming that includes crew.
The vast majority have been over water.
There are three very long, abandoned ,runways in The Nicobar Island group.
One was built by The Japanese in W.W.II.
Time will tell.
Pink Peony 3/14/2014 10:06:36 AM Report
Wisenheimer, do you know of any good sites that talk about how to play the stock market? Detailed and clear sites that talk about what to watch for, when to invest, when to pull out, etc. Do you HAVE to go through a broker? I remember going to the Toronto Stock Exchange many years ago. Not sure what took me there, maybe it was a school trip, I don't remember. What I do remember is that it was a madhouse in there!!
irishfey 3/14/2014 10:12:01 AM Report
Just Curious.. Glad you outlasted the " Dinosaur". hee hee... What ever route we take, we have to pay. My Hubby wanted to buy cords instead of the logs, less work for him i know, but we got the logs ( cheaper that way ).. He splits,, i pile. He won"t let me use the chainsaw??? I wonder if it"s because when he wanted me to learn to use the snowblower,, He was an instant snowman in a few seconds ,lol.. He never asked me to do it again!.. What harm could i do with a chainsaw??? :)
mr.monty 3/14/2014 10:15:43 AM Report
last year I put in an outdoor water furnace. it heats my garage and my house. it also heats my hot water. this unit uses a re-burner, this takes the smoke and gas from the wood and burns it a 2nd time. a lot less smoke than my wood furnace. if you use a pellet stove. make sure you are buying hardwood pellets. as for firewood, my son is a logger and told me that tandem loads are now selling for up to $1400. people are selling a cord of wood for $100. I have a wood lot and a home made splitter. as for the exercise. i get lots of that.
sAUCEY 3/14/2014 10:16:51 AM Report
You don't need to go through a broker at all , but if it is your first time i would recommend it as most know the ins and outs, ScotiaMacota and tdwaterhouse both has "play" accts, where you get pretend money and can invest and sell and trade and all that fun stuff, its a very cool and fun tool.
irishfey 3/14/2014 10:18:49 AM Report
Wild Turkey,, I just hope that it"s found with all lives in tact,, but i don"t think that"s going to be the case.... WISEN,, yes,, spill it out please, we all need $$.. Please tell it in a simple manner for the simple minded== me ,lol
Gurpy 3/14/2014 10:19:36 AM Report
I was reading the posts from yesterday. Both the blue and red room going to Facebook? I like that idea! Doesn`t matter where you post you`ve already left a digital footprint. Don`t believe me, google your user name and watch what comes up.
Just Curious 3/14/2014 10:41:15 AM Report
Just a rumour, Gurpy, just a rumour.. You can already move some stuff over now if you want but Facebook is having some really big privacy issues at the moment.. Then again, nothing posted on the net is ever lost, someone can find it and pull it back..
Pink Peony 3/14/2014 10:44:45 AM Report
mallet 3/14/2014 10:55:08 AM Report
Yes the initial cost of a splitter is high, but there is an alternative, if you are not going to burn that much you can rent one for about 50$ a day, get a crew of relatives and friends and you can have a tandem load bucked up and split in about 3/4 days at most. You could also look round to see if anyone near had a splitter they would lend you on a barter system..
Pink Peony 3/14/2014 11:30:50 AM Report
Mallet, both good ideas. Thank you. How much do you figure you save by splitting it yourself versus buying it split already?
David Poluck 3/14/2014 11:35:26 AM Report
Pretty cocky after the fact...
Taliban issues congratulations to its forces on 'defeat' of Canadians
A round of goodbye messages are following the last Canadian troops out the door in Afghanistan and some of them are rather nasty.
"Your sacrifices have brought us freedom. The beacons of your blood have lit the way to independence. Celebrate the victory and freedom from the Canadians," said the statement, written in Pashtu, but translated for The Canadian Press.
bounder 3/14/2014 11:52:14 AM Report
I pay $1000.00 bucks for a load, usually get 22 to 23 chords out of it , a face chord 4ft high by 8ft long and 16 inches in length goes for around 90 to 100 bucks , so about half price and last 2 years. I cut every second year, use to get half loads and cut every year but now they don't do half loads , not worthwhile for them. Hope this helps.
Pink Peony 3/14/2014 11:59:31 AM Report
Definitely save a lot of money buying it by the load!! 22 to 23 face cords would probably last about 5 years here.
Just Curious 3/14/2014 12:01:48 PM Report
Pink Peony, can you imagine your place with a tandem load of logs in the driveway??? Your standing in the neighborhood would take a huge hit, I'm thinking...:)
lookaround 3/14/2014 12:14:27 PM Report
Bounder my pork chop, listen carefully we don't care
lookaround 3/14/2014 12:17:38 PM Report
Wood burning will be banned as in New York city and some Canadian cities
irishfey 3/14/2014 12:29:53 PM Report
lookaround.. ,lol.. Tell that to the Mennonites :)
bounder 3/14/2014 12:30:28 PM Report
Lookaround and keep on looking as I don't care either.
BIG BROTHER 3/14/2014 12:33:57 PM Report
What a sad ending to a pretty much predictable war. Canadian soldiers (I think it was 158) killed and many injured. For what?? Very sad indeed.
Pink Peony 3/14/2014 12:42:52 PM Report
I met somebody a couple of years ago who was in Afghanistan. Fairly young man, mid twenties. Pretty messed up to say the least...some of the things he witnessed :(
lookaround 3/14/2014 12:43:12 PM Report
The trend is (I am not in favour) in urban areas wood burning will be banned,
By the way Bounder you make no friends on here with your constant sniping. I have observed closely the responses to your comments. Just to let you know.
bounder 3/14/2014 12:47:50 PM Report
Lookaround, and who made you the shot caller here and when you say WE are you talking for everyone, never posted to you once and you come out with Porky,
hope that made your day for you, hope you feel better, and now on to scrolling for me.
flyhawk25 3/14/2014 12:55:03 PM Report
BB...our armed forces are brave people who got sent into a mess by a moron safely in Ottawa.
Our tradition is peacekeeping not leading the charge.
Leave that to the US. They dig that crap.
Wisenheimer 3/14/2014 12:55:17 PM Report
Wood burning already banned in new homes in Montreal.
Care to guess at which alder persons would be all in, for a similar ban in the Sault ?
Wisenheimer 3/14/2014 12:57:23 PM Report
Fly .. Starting to sound like the Grumper. Thought you had a better range.
Wisenheimer 3/14/2014 1:00:55 PM Report
Fly, for Minister of Foreign Affairs, Grump for Minister of Defence.
Whoa .. wouldn't that be special.
flyhawk25 3/14/2014 1:02:23 PM Report
Why?Because I'm opposed to killing people in the name of oil?
Sent our kids over in green camo.
Wisenheimer 3/14/2014 1:10:10 PM Report
Au contraire Fly .. just commenting on your use of Grump's favorite epithet.
Wisenheimer 3/14/2014 1:16:30 PM Report
Points to ponder for pink peony and others.
Canadian troops sent to Afghanistan in 2001 by you know who.
Free trades talks with Europe and S.Korea initiated 10 years ago by you know who.
One good thing about Liberals is they campaign as libs but govern more like conservatives.
flyhawk25 3/14/2014 1:18:59 PM Report
I though it a better choice than 'incompetent fool' or 'war mongering redneck.'
theprotector 3/14/2014 1:26:09 PM Report
who the hell cares who's ideas they were they suck about the same!! Fat boy harpo must like them as he continued to pursue the deal and the war! Mind you he only cares about the twinkie in his pocket
theprotector 3/14/2014 1:27:47 PM Report
the conservative like seeing our young people die at war, saves them money
Snobank 3/14/2014 1:29:40 PM Report
I have a gas fireplace in my home. It can throw so much heat it often overwhelms my furnace thermostat and the Furnace does not come on. I generally keep the gas fireplace set very low because of this.
I used to say that if the power went out on the furnace then I had a good emergency backup heat supply. Guess what? I was wrong.Last week during a several hour power outage I turned the gas fireplace to full. It turns out that without the electric fans that are built into the fireplace most of the heat goes up the chimney. The house was cooling rapidly steadily until the power returned and the furnace sprang back in to action.
I guess we could all have stood right around the fireplace and stayed warm but I'm definitely disappointed with it as a source of home heat during a power failure. The wood or pellet burning stoves are sounding better and better. X
learningaswego 3/14/2014 1:29:51 PM Report
Man sakes alive, you hear some nut-bar anti-Harper rants on here, but that one takes the cake, pal.
learningaswego 3/14/2014 1:30:52 PM Report
my comment was in reference to tp (toilet paper?)'s most recent vile spew.
sAUCEY 3/14/2014 1:40:23 PM Report
Hey flyhawk, they werent sent over there in just green camo, your a moron.. Also those boys didnt die for oil, your retarded hippie ass liberals are going to destroy our world.. It is impossible for all of us to live in harmoy, so accept it a move on..
Wisenheimer 3/14/2014 1:40:29 PM Report
Kinda partial to "fat boy Harpo".
Fly, hope you're proud of your posse.
I'm sure Grump will be along soon to expand on the conversation.
theprotector 3/14/2014 1:43:12 PM Report
if you are proud of that guy you must have a very low uneducated narrow minded view of Canada!
I have asked this before give me one thing he has done that benefited the whole of Canada! NOTHING
theprotector 3/14/2014 1:46:59 PM Report
really go ask a vet how this government is treating them, go ask a new vet how they were kicked to the curb because they got injured over there and come back and now they have to fight for what is rightfully theirs PAL!!
The only reason is becasue they save money screwing these kids over! Yeah sure be proud of the women and men fighting (I dont agree with them being there ) but at least have the balls to look after them and do whats right not like a scum bag like you!
YOu conservatives would pull the plug on your own mother if you thought it would save a nickle!
Bobby Nerves 3/14/2014 1:47:08 PM Report
If you want something more bizarre than the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777. The pictures of the two iranians with fake passports, are also fake. The pictures itself. What else can be wrong here.
theprotector 3/14/2014 1:47:41 PM Report
what a bunch of self centered, self rightous losers!
theprotector 3/14/2014 1:48:18 PM Report
BN I tought interpol cleared those guys...no???
steelworker 3/14/2014 2:04:31 PM Report
Wow. The protector is hard at it today. Tampons are in Aisle 5.
Gurpy 3/14/2014 2:04:40 PM Report
From what I know, whatever hits the internet is there for good. No such thing as privacy wether it`s in the form of an email or a posting on sootoday or Facebook. We have very little in the way of privacy. We are taking chances all the time.
Javaman 3/14/2014 2:07:46 PM Report
War is never a popular way to go. I do respect those men and women who went to war on our behalf and in some cases paid the ultimate with their lives. I cannot imagine that the families of these dead soldiers would appreciate comments suggesting it was a useless war in the name of oil .They want to believe their loved ones were of more value than oil.
flyhawk25 3/14/2014 2:08:28 PM Report
Ask the vets.They were either lying or you're full of crap. I'm betting the latter.
Wild Turkey 3/14/2014 2:16:18 PM Report
Fly---no oil in Afghanistan---lots of poppies 'tho.
Cdn. War Dead-(Approx.)
Viet Nam (Canadian Volunteers-est.)--160
Let's just be glad it's over and most of them returned alive.
Javaman 3/14/2014 2:16:23 PM Report
flyhawk..I am not full of crap. I am offering an opinion.
Wicket 3/14/2014 2:18:10 PM Report
Well Gurpy, I googled my name and nothing about me came up, lots of others with the same name though.
Just Curious 3/14/2014 2:24:43 PM Report
Wicket, I did the same...LOL.
Wild Turkey 3/14/2014 2:31:55 PM Report
Googled --"Wild Turkey"---elusive game bird/delicious whiskey---Who knew?
bounder 3/14/2014 2:35:16 PM Report
If you use Ebay try that the user id, nothing for me as Bounder, but my Ebay yielded results and Used Soo did also.
irishfey 3/14/2014 2:48:13 PM Report
I didn"t know that about the .. google thing,lol I would not google another poster on here as i would think of it as "cyber stalking" ,lol
notpc 3/14/2014 2:54:35 PM Report
Been away for a while and noticed the discussion about woodstoves. Was there any discussion about the relative merits of the two types of higher efficiency stoves, the catalytic versus those with an air-injected combustion chamber?
sAUCEY 3/14/2014 2:56:36 PM Report
heres the deal folks, Canada had desert camo, and the digi camo, which was candian invented was sold to the us military
the government treated this men great, they got a good wage, pension and benefits, plus valuable life experience, way more than the americans!
This men fought hard and fough strong and be proud of them, the fight wasn't over oil and any solider who is saying that to you didn't go over to fight.. probably went to flip pankcakes on the S.S Syrup..
flyhawk25 3/14/2014 2:58:08 PM Report
sAUCY...so what you have is an opinion.
You might want to try facts before you call someone a name.
You are in way over your head kid.
sAUCEY 3/14/2014 3:02:11 PM Report
fly, I personally know four men who went and did 2 tours, they are all back now, i also have friends in the air force and the navy. So "KID" i have facts... you apparently are spouting your opinion too so i have facts and you dont like my facts so your getting awfully defensive..
notpc 3/14/2014 3:14:11 PM Report
You are right in declaring how wrong our government is in not taking care of our returning war veterans, but your implication that this is a problem created by conservatives because they are conservatives is off the mark.
On March 26, 2013 the Institute of Medicine in the US released a report to Congress indicating that US veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan were suffering from inadequate care for their problems as well. There was a high rate of post-traumatic stress syndrome, suicide, unemployment, etc. All the same problems reported by Canadian veterans. But in the US, the government isn't conservative, but liberal (the Democrats). So it's apparent that although the problems you identify are real, the cause really has little to do with whether the government is conservative or liberal. A liberal minded government is just as capable and willing it seems, to abandon their veterans as a conservative minded one is.
Jimssm 3/14/2014 3:39:03 PM Report
To say the government treats / treated it's soldiers / vets well is simply not true and you know it.
What many soldiers say about being there...not because of oil... more like 'why are we here ?'. Most had no idea... just putting in the time til they could come back.
Pension... ok if you don't get sick before you qualify.
After you get back ?.... forget it
Life experience ???... you've got to be kidding. Suicides and post traumatic stress because of 'life experiences'.
....From PERSONAL experience.....
David Poluck 3/14/2014 3:54:14 PM Report
Amazing video takes you on a flight through a slice of the universe
irishfey 3/14/2014 4:03:15 PM Report
There has always been wars , from "way" back when, and there will always "be" wars, only this time with the Taliban and Islam etc.involved,, there will be no peace in any Country until the Islamic religion turns the infidels (us) to their way of life and religion. This is stated in the Qur"an! I stated before.. that any person that serves his or hers Country, should be paid more than all the Presidents and PM"s put together!... It is an outright disgrace and shame the way the vets and their family"s are treated!!...
Gurpy 3/14/2014 4:04:44 PM Report
Google your user name followed by sootoday.
Javaman 3/14/2014 4:36:48 PM Report
I cannot understand these wars in the name of religion.
Wicket 3/14/2014 4:45:03 PM Report
Did it, my name only came up in two family death announcements and no where else....
Grump 3/14/2014 5:05:43 PM Report
PP check with your insurance company as many will not insure a home with a wood stove and the few that do will require an inspection by the fire dept. before they will agree to insure. Bounder did you build your splitter with mopar parts. LMAO.
steelworker 3/14/2014 5:08:31 PM Report
Good to see Harper going to the Ukraine next week to try and calm down a bad situation. Obama goes on holidays (third time so far this year) leaving Mr. Ketchup to whine to Putin. The U.S. slowly sinks into political oblivion.
Just Curious 3/14/2014 5:16:10 PM Report
Gurpy; It just brought an old news story about the old editor...
And Steelworker, why should Obama give a crap? He only has a short time to go so why sweat it..He started out as an empty suit and hasn't been much better since...
Grump 3/14/2014 5:19:40 PM Report
Yes Steely ,P.M. Harper has so much clout and personal empathy for everyone. I'm sure he will calm it down. LMAO. What a puttz.
statusquo 3/14/2014 5:22:56 PM Report
steelworker 3/14/2014 5:08:31 PM Report
"Good to see Harper going to the Ukraine next week to try and calm down a bad situation."
This has to be...by far...the best post of the day!
And welcome to the sandbox sAUCEY....say?....Any chance you belong to the Mensa club?
irishfey 3/14/2014 5:23:39 PM Report
Grump... In the homes that we have lived in, our In. Man did the inspection as he had the papers and proper training, called a WETT certificate. The only homes i know of that would be refused would be a Mobile Home. That is just my understanding of it....
steelworker 3/14/2014 5:30:33 PM Report
Anything is better than a President who is so far out in left field he can't figure out a bank card machine in a grocery store. As for having a "short time left" obama might as well just stay on permanent vacation with his brood. All on the taxpayers dime no doubt. Most. Useless. POTUS. Ever.
Bobby Nerves 3/14/2014 5:46:21 PM Report
tp, is not about what they did or not. It's about the pictures. Check the publication in that link, it's in German, but you'll realize what the picture is all about.
It's weird that in the picture they are the same body. There is an explanation from a thai policeman, that he folded the original when doing a photocopy.
I was just pointing that it's weird, like everything, it start with a little hole, and then another and another, till finally all the holes line up and then it's to late.
It's not a conspiracy theory, just that things are presented that way. The AC started with the wrong foot when they lost total contact and didn't report. That's a human error there. The rest, we'll only know when they find the bird and the passengers.
Gurpy 3/14/2014 5:50:48 PM Report
If you google your user name with sootoday added, it should show all posts under "Just Curious". (Just Curious sootoday).
Wicket is special! That`s why nothing is coming up for her. LOL
I found another site which is fun, friendly and informative. That`s why I don`t bother as much with this room anymore.
Bottom line is, whatever you post will NEVER go away ever.
I agree that the blue and red rooms should be moved to Facebook. Doesn`t seem to be any moderators around. If there are, they must be sleeping!
Gurpy 3/14/2014 5:54:27 PM Report
I just googled "Just Curious sootoday" and all of your post came up.
I tried Wickets also and had the same results.
Grump 3/14/2014 5:59:34 PM Report
Irishfey, many Insurers don't care who did what, if you burn wood, they won't insure. All my point was it's better to check into things before you do them.
Grump 3/14/2014 6:02:54 PM Report
Bobby are you free for lunch next week? I have someone I want you to meet.
theprotector 3/14/2014 6:03:37 PM Report
notpc - i didnt say they created the problem however they have greatly contributed to it. An ATIP request into internal policies would shade some light on the subject.
theprotector 3/14/2014 6:05:35 PM Report
thats very intersting bobby very interesting!
Just Curious 3/14/2014 6:18:19 PM Report
Congratulation, Gurpy, but why in hell would you care what I may have said over the last 10 years or so?? I know I certainly don't an I was the one who said them...:)
theprotector 3/14/2014 6:20:23 PM Report
whew good thing I dont post in a negative way
steelworker 3/14/2014 7:04:49 PM Report
I send hugs and kisses to all my cyber chums in the Blue Room.
flyhawk25 3/14/2014 7:10:48 PM Report
I spoke to a Afghanistan veteran this afternoon.Nice guy and apparently has a boatload of medals.Three tours. Very nice man and very humble.
Here's what he told me.
The camo they had in their first tour was green
He said what is worse is how they're treated by the DND when they get home.
I rest my case.
Wisenheimer 3/14/2014 7:13:44 PM Report
Bobby I believe Grump is bringing The Protector and Elmer Fudd to lunch.
They are planning on going to Ottawa to smarten up Steve. Probably forget where they're going by Deep River.
Grump 3/14/2014 7:51:12 PM Report
Wisen I honestly don't know how you manage it. Every time you post they are dumber, more inane and damn little to do with reality. Come to think of it the pair you mentioned would be like a breath of fresh air next to conversing with a moron of your caliber. Run along twit.
Grump 3/14/2014 7:53:26 PM Report
Steely you can kiss me you know where. LMAO.
right wing 3/14/2014 8:00:51 PM Report
BIG BROTHER 3/14/2014 12:33:57 PM Report
What a sad ending to a pretty much predictable war. Canadian soldiers (I think it was 158) killed and many injured. For what?? Very sad indeed.
You folks should have been tuned into CBC radio.
They had veterans from the Afghanistan war on that told their stories about all they had accomplished for the Afghan people.
The stories were many and they were told with the utmost pride.
I would have dared any one of you to call in and say to them young men "for what", you'd get your nuts handed to you real quick.
Bobby Nerves 3/14/2014 8:03:59 PM Report
Sorry Grump, I'm not going out of my property boundaries.
I'm afraid white ring will bite my groins as it's hard for me to detect a dwarf from above here.
Further, I have the signs posted and to any resemblance to human below 5' trespassing, I shoot and then ask.
And if it moves, I shoot again.
Grump 3/14/2014 8:08:04 PM Report
Bobby why waste shells? Just take a fly swatter to it.
bounder 3/14/2014 8:13:14 PM Report
where you going for lunch , and what time , I want to see you waddle in for more greasy food.
Bobby Nerves 3/14/2014 8:14:39 PM Report
I'll call you tomorrow.
I have tickets for the ringside and I'm waiting for statusquo to arrive. They call him the Many Pacquiao of the Soo, poom poom, two messages and... bring in the next please.
sparks7 3/15/2014 12:36:49 AM Report
Hundreds of millions $ for this country and millions more for the next country but a 2.2 million dollar annual subsidy to CN has to be cut to help balance the budget and save taxpayers money? What about us here in Algoma?
Spellchecker 3/15/2014 4:31:23 PM Report
Sunnidelight sighting under a news story.