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David Poluck 3/6/2014 5:50:13 AM Report

Another fine Sault Ste Marie morning!

One more sleep until Friday!
irishfey 3/6/2014 6:24:36 AM Report

Morning David and all... So, what"s the subject for today? Sunshine and roses ? ,lol.... Jimssm, have you heard any word from your Wife yet??.. Prayers are still going up... Have a good day folks...
Grump 3/6/2014 6:27:14 AM Report

Good morning everyone and you as well David. Sparks you are right about some hunters. Three of us used to hunt and fish together and there were always someone we worked with or a friend who wanted to come along. All of them good fellows with a brain in their head, so we thought. You were taking your life in your hands just being in the bush with them. There seemed to be something about getting a gun in their hands that turned them into complete morons. I wonder if that's what happened to some of the poor souls on here? Have a great day all.
Grump 3/6/2014 6:34:17 AM Report

If anyone knows of a good Handyman, also someone with some paint spraying experience, please have them get in touch. grump@inbox.com Thinking of Spelly's words of the week, I have been considering something similar. I am considering several names for it and would appreciate some feed back. 1 Morons of the day. 2 Flamers of the day. Thanks in advance. Have a good one folks.
irishfey 3/6/2014 6:37:22 AM Report

Morning Grump... nice way to start the morning, calling folks morons,,, in need of a little cold water are ye? ,lol....
Grump 3/6/2014 6:37:47 AM Report

Good morning Irish, sorry to hear of your loses. Also sorry about the pail of cold water but I have a little Irish flame thrower at home and know what works. lol. Take care.
Grump 3/6/2014 6:41:26 AM Report

Come on Irish, just looking for a good heading and you know the Irish, they call it like they see it. It's all you folks that complain about the fighting and name calling so just trying to slow it down for all of you. lol
bounder 3/6/2014 6:45:00 AM Report

This guy doesn't need a painter he's in need of a Veterinarian he's not that high up the evolutionary scale and suffers from OCD.
Grump 3/6/2014 6:45:10 AM Report

Well time to get to work as much as I hate to miss the arrival of the first Swamper of the day. Keep trying rw you might even get a frown out of me one of these days. But not likely.
Grump 3/6/2014 6:46:35 AM Report

Wow congratulations Bounder the first arrival if not the brightest.
irishfey 3/6/2014 6:46:59 AM Report

Thank you Grump,, I think that your Irish Lassie should throw some back at you ,lol.. Try being nice in the morning then maby they will be nice back... HAH..I must be still half asleep ,lol... continue on you old fart ,lol,lol
irishfey 3/6/2014 6:49:37 AM Report

And... here we go ,lol....
Bobby Nerves 3/6/2014 7:20:39 AM Report

Bitcoin exchange execute Autum Radtke, 28, a geek genius, found dead in her Singapore apartment.

No long ago she wrote an essay entitled The Psychological Price of Entrepreneurship, where she said... everything has it's price.

Bobby Nerves 3/6/2014 7:34:05 AM Report

David, your crack smoking, buzz libating idol, Rob Ford, walked over a soap bar and landed belly up.

The investigation about your deity landed in the hands of the OPP and they will meet with a district attorney in order to make a Court presentation ... with reasonable prospect of a conviction.
irishfey 3/6/2014 7:53:24 AM Report

Grump,, was thinking of your need for a handyman,, Maby contact Just Curious,, I think he is a " jack of all trades " and would like to do some work. Would be a help to you and to him....
Javaman 3/6/2014 8:05:30 AM Report

Despite Rob Ford's antics no charges have ever been laid. The buffoon seems invincible.
Bobby Nerves 3/6/2014 8:21:25 AM Report

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. And Rob phone number handy.
theprotector 3/6/2014 8:37:40 AM Report

isnt he gonna be flown in the next macey day parade? The guy cracks me up!!!
right wing 3/6/2014 8:56:03 AM Report

Grump

No one is surprised that your friends would turn into complete morons.
I'm sure you are a really influential guy around the weak minded.
right wing 3/6/2014 9:01:17 AM Report

On the subject of hunting....
I don't know where some of you hunt (or who with)but the hunters that I know are smart, law abiding, respectful of nature, safety conscious individuals.
If you ever had trouble in the bush they would be the right there to help.
This is what makes up most hunters, not the drunken, law breaking dangerous morons that Grump hunts with.
right wing 3/6/2014 9:17:40 AM Report

"Record cold temperatures, near record ice cover and record breaking snowfall have all impacted the water levels of the Great Lakes, creating the possibility of significantly above average seasonal rises for the second consecutive year.

The extreme winter conditions has impacted all the Great Lakes to varying degrees, said Kirk Kompoltowicz, chief of watershed hydrology with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.

With many areas receiving record or near-record snowfalls, the snow-water equivalent, which has an impact on Great Lake water levels, has increased the average depth in each of the Great Lake basins, he said.

Lake Superior and Lake Michigan-Huron have reached their highest levels in the past decade."

Now you see, you can study the water levels all you like, spend thousands on "what to do", when "we" can't do anything about such things.
Only Mother Nature can.
A couple of more winters like this one with some rainy spring weather and we can read all the complaints about the high water levels.
Then the nut case politicians will spend thousands again on studies as to what "we" can do to lower the lake levels.
...and so the cycles go.
Javaman 3/6/2014 9:21:36 AM Report

We just have to catch those Americans stealing our water.
right wing 3/6/2014 9:27:04 AM Report

Javaman

Nothing like a good conspiracy thrown in for good measure.

;)
Wisenheimer 3/6/2014 9:28:59 AM Report

Grump and TP walk into a bar.
Fly ducks.
Grump 3/6/2014 9:30:16 AM Report

Well rw I always considered you a friend and you really shouldn't be so hard on yourself. Lighten up fellow you can't be that bad, then again you know you better than I do. lol
Grump 3/6/2014 9:31:38 AM Report

Wisen go put your head back in the swamp where it belongs. Moron
right wing 3/6/2014 9:35:12 AM Report

Check this site out if you like.
Satellite photos from NASA showing the Great Lakes frozen over this winter.



http://tinyurl.com/leajekq
right wing 3/6/2014 9:37:35 AM Report

Grump

I'm sure you do along with all of your face book "friends" that you never met.
I really can't control what you consider to be but I can understand your desire.

notpc 3/6/2014 9:58:36 AM Report

The talk here about the Great Lakes freezing over makes me wonder how the global warmists are going to interpret this.

In the Green section of Sootoday, on January 10, the writer there gave an indication of how they might try to rationalize global warming in the face of extreme cold. He suggested that, get ready for it, global warming is responsible for the "deepening of the polar vortex". He then went through a convoluted, theoretical explanation as to how the extreme cold this winter is further evidence of global warming.

Funny how when it's hotter than normal it's evidence of global warming and when it's colder than normal, it's evidence too. Makes you wonder what would be evidence disproving global warming.

Of course the earth did warm some from the mid 1980's until a couple years ago, just like it has in the past. But it's not warming now. It's amusing watching global warmists trying to tell us otherwise.
right wing 3/6/2014 10:08:15 AM Report

notpc

That is why it is no longer referred to as "global warming".

The official order of tittle changes is.... Man driven/global warming/climate change/pause.

I refer to it as all of the above.
Climate change was the most clever as how can anyone argue that our climate does not change.
The reality is our climate could change on a drastic level but if it does there ain't squat we can do about it.
I just hope it heads for the warming period as long as I'm on this blue ball and not the cooling.
I really don't want to move out of Canada.
I'd rather grow palm trees up here.
Hunter101 3/6/2014 10:10:39 AM Report

notpc, you're nailing it. Your posts explain what I sometime try and fail to. Couldn't agree more.

Grump 3/6/2014 10:13:48 AM Report

rw don't flatter yourself pal, it was a joke. Wisen you are a no class moron and sadly your attempts at humour don't make it.
right wing 3/6/2014 10:19:21 AM Report

...next time you should turn on your humour button as you can't even get that correct.

Hows that go...."he can dish it out but he sure can't take it".
flyhawk25 3/6/2014 10:24:18 AM Report

Look at revolutionthemovie com.
Then tell me about no global warming.
Zing 3/6/2014 10:27:50 AM Report

Thanks for the link RW, amaZing photos.
Hunter101 3/6/2014 10:34:08 AM Report

Grump, I chuckled at Wisen's joke but yours was a weak attempt.

God (if he does exist) didn't bless you with humour. Just anxiety and high blood pressure.

Zing 3/6/2014 10:37:22 AM Report

Here is a link to the video corresponding to the Great Lakes ice.

http://tinyurl.com/lro3td7
northernmale 3/6/2014 10:41:49 AM Report

Grump I don,t no you but you seem like a nice fellow and mean well. Even if some may not agree with me. But you do leave yourself open to be attacked by some. Starting the day calling people who have not even logged in names leaves you open to be attacked. My dad once told me when I was young if you feel what you have to say is going to make you explode if you cant get it out , its probley better to be left unsaid.
mallet 3/6/2014 10:45:34 AM Report


notpc and RW..

This is the first time I have ever heard of "The Polar Vortex". I guess they had to come up with a name for the weather pattern this year and that sounded a real "gimicky" name for the cold weather/reason. I am just guessing, but if we have a real warm summer it will be called a "tropical vortex" just think of all the items that can have "vortex" after them...
right wing 3/6/2014 10:47:34 AM Report

flyhawk25

Are you talking about Revolution by JJ Abrams.
right wing 3/6/2014 11:03:29 AM Report

mallet

Picture of the polar vortex.


http://tinyurl.com/lwweytb
right wing 3/6/2014 11:09:30 AM Report

notpc

The link I provided points out the "good" of the polar vortex.
right wing 3/6/2014 11:11:07 AM Report

...and flyhawk, your revolutionthemovie.com site is no longer available.
Shows how valid that one is.
Next....
flyhawk25 3/6/2014 11:12:17 AM Report

Watch the documentary.
Wild Turkey 3/6/2014 11:18:10 AM Report

View room to-day reminds me of the lost Nixon Tapes.All The good stuff has been deleted.
irishfey 3/6/2014 11:18:23 AM Report

There is a site called... The Extinction Protocal... just google it.... It tells of all the things that are going on in the World that includes the weather, earthquakes etc. .. some really strange stuff that is happening. Most of these things are not on the news, but some are, so i know them to be true. Tiss a really interesting site. And, i " really " hate to bring this up :) but the Bible tells of the weather getting worse towards the end times. In the book of Job, it tells of the treasury of snow and hail that God has reserved for the final days..... Don"t yell at me please, i"m old ,lol,lol
Snobank 3/6/2014 11:43:46 AM Report

Serious but slightly weird question: If you were to discover a member of your family had passed away of natural causes in their bed in your home, what is the required protocol? Who do you call first? The funeral home, the hospital, the police or some other agency?

No, no one has died in my house but we are all getting of an age where it might well happen. Not a pleasant thought but it's a situation that could well occur and I have no idea what the right or wrong things are to do if that situation arose. Any advice or knowledge from personal experience would be appreciated.
Wicket 3/6/2014 11:51:15 AM Report

Not sure, but I think the police first, the body cannot be moved until the coroner arrives on the scene to verify death and issue certificate, then the funeral home can be called. If any sign of life is suspected, then the ambulance should be called first.
David Poluck 3/6/2014 11:53:39 AM Report

Interesting story...Bitcoin exchange CEO found dead in Singapore




http://my.news.yahoo.com/singapore-police-probes-unnatural-death-american-bitcoin-ceo-050925616.html

Can't kill the message...so kill the messenger?
Pink Peony 3/6/2014 11:59:56 AM Report

Snobank, call 911 and tell them someone has died of apparent natural causes in your home. They will send an ambulance and they will contact the proper people. I had a friend die in his home. I saw him on the floor and he was cold. That's what I did. They had to verify that there weren't any suspicious circumstances.
right wing 3/6/2014 12:11:21 PM Report

Pink Peony

Correct you are and just to add...if you call the police first an autopsy is automatic even if the death was natural causes.
steelworker 3/6/2014 12:11:54 PM Report

Crikey: a ranting loon on the loose with a gun in the Great Outdoors.It makes me want to stay in me mums basement.
irishfey 3/6/2014 12:13:22 PM Report

Snobank.. Wickett and P.P are right.. call the Police right away and ask them to send an Ambulance also, just in case. If you were to just call the Funeral Home, there would be lots of questions from the Ploice that you would be in no shape to deal with later. I'm glad you brought that up as we are getting up in years also,, is good for everyone to know what to do. I hope that you don"t have to make that call anytime soon....
Just Curious 3/6/2014 12:17:33 PM Report

Guess I'll have to train my dog to call 911.. I wonder if the dispatchers are trained in "woof- speak"... There are disadvantages to living alone...:)
right wing 3/6/2014 12:19:53 PM Report

flyhawk25

For every documentary there's a documentary.

http://tinyurl.com/n5pc79j
mallet 3/6/2014 12:22:18 PM Report


R W..
That tiny url does not work for me I have had trouble getting any of those to come up... What I did get was url.com/leyte...
irishfey 3/6/2014 12:23:53 PM Report

Steelworker. re-- " a ranting loon on the loose with a gun ""... Was that post meant for me due to my post on the weather and the Bible , and the fact that i own a gun?.. If so.. then yes, you best stay in your Moms basement ,lol
steelworker 3/6/2014 12:26:34 PM Report

The third post of the day from Mr. Sunshine.
Pink Peony 3/6/2014 12:30:02 PM Report

JC, I figure it could be up to a week before I am "found". It would depend on when the last time my weekly visitor came over. There might be crows hovering around my home wondering how to get to the delicacy in the house! That would be the first clue.
irishfey 3/6/2014 12:30:39 PM Report

Just Curious.. do you have a cell phone?? If so, keep it on your person at all times,, also have a friend call you in the morning and at night , just to keep check on you... best to do that than stink up the apartment for a few days ,lol,lol,, jk, my friend.. yes,, it sucks to live alone... Gotta get that chokecherry wine to you, that will keep your heart a pumping,lol...
notpc 3/6/2014 12:38:18 PM Report

Flyhawk

The Revolution movie you referred us to is a beautiful movie that has some relevant points to make, especially concerning pollution and its long term effects on the environment. Its problem was that it was so focused on getting out that message that it wandered into making unprovable claims.

For example, Rob Stewart, the creator of the movie declares unequivocally that CO2 is a major cause of harm to the environment, primarily I suppose through global warming. The problem with that claim is that graphs show that there is really no correlation between man-produced CO2 emissions and higher world temperatures throughout man's history. Many of the highest temperatures on earth occurred before industrialization.

Second, Stewart attacks Alberta's oil sands by showing extensive footage of the surface mining done to extract bitumin. Yet he fails to note that the open pit mining in his pictures only make up 2% of the area of the oil sands and that this area produces only 20% of the oil produced. He also never said anything about the reclamation of those open pits that the companies MUST do by law. He never mentioned that green house gas production from the oil sands has dropped 38% from 1990 to 2009. It is lower than that of any of the production areas in Saudi Arabia, Venezuela or Nigeria.

My point is that even though Stewart had some useful points to make, his unwillingness to present a balanced picture ruined his credibility.
irishfey 3/6/2014 12:47:01 PM Report

Steelworker... ,lol.. Your lucky, i would have felt bad that you spent the rest of your days hold up in the basement ,lol.. I tried to get the old fart to be nice this morning, but he wouldn"t go for it... actually i enjoy the banter between you guys as i know it"s all in fun,, It"s when the crude comments come out that make this site, not so nice and feelings get hurt..... PINK PEONY... Your post made me laugh but i know that it"s not really a laughing matter... lots of folk in yours and J.c "s situation... maby do as i suggested to him and have someone call you throughout the day. This is me 2nd. marriage and before that i was alone also,, thats what i did... Just make sure you let the person know of your comings and goings as not to frighten them if you don"t answer..... hmmmm, you and J.C both single??? ,lol
right wing 3/6/2014 12:59:00 PM Report

mallet

Checked them both and they work on my computer when I highlight them and then click on "open link".
right wing 3/6/2014 1:00:51 PM Report

notpc

Regarding CO2, that is exactly what the documentary states that I provided a link for.
I happen to put my faith in the science of the sun and the history of this planet then the Al Gore's of this world.
irishfey 3/6/2014 1:01:21 PM Report

Wild Turkey... How can you tell when things have been deleated?? I'm not good at these computer things and was just wondering.....
right wing 3/6/2014 1:02:51 PM Report

notpc

Not to mention what sells better, a documentary about sharks or a documentary that claims you went out to study sharks but discovered we will all be dead in twenty years due to......
steelworker 3/6/2014 1:06:59 PM Report

If you want to see a true documentary on sharks rent "Sharknado". I think Algore produced and directed it and it has to do with global warming. True story says Al.
EricThe SHERIFF 3/6/2014 1:20:40 PM Report

Snobank,

My wife died as a result of breast cancer but she was home with me all the time.
When she died, I called 911 and they sent the ambulance, the Police and I believe the Police called the coroner. I'm not sure who called the funeral home but probably as a result of me wanting an autopsy.

That was 14 years ago.
mvnnth 3/6/2014 1:34:40 PM Report

I am reading the same drivel day after day about the subject of global warming. I pointed to this article several weeks ago but, alas, the poster I thought could benefit the most from some unvarnished thoughts on the subject couldn't find this article without a link. Here it is:

"http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/columns/column-no-evidence-behind-climate-denialism/2160997"
Just Curious 3/6/2014 1:41:55 PM Report

"BACK OFF, IRISH" LOL... Made that mistake enough times in one lifetime to last two lifetimes..LOL.:)
notpc 3/6/2014 1:43:22 PM Report

Right Wing

What you said about the sun is probably a lot more relevant to temperature than CO2. Many scientists say that sun spot activity correlates better with the earth's temperature than CO2 levels, although global warmists tend to try to dispute that.
theprotector 3/6/2014 1:48:45 PM Report

yep human activities have nothing to do with GW or climate change, just ask japan and china! Nope we dont harm the environment at all (cuz that would be bad on the bank statement) Just look the other way, the cannal in Niagra area was just for movie purposes, nope keep pumping out the smoke, doesnt do a damn thing to the air or earth...its all good. Ask right wing he loves sucking on tailpipes!
T-rat 3/6/2014 2:15:58 PM Report

rw: I've been out here on the shores of beautiful Lake Superior for 15 years and water levels have never returned to the high levels we had when I first got here. And every summer is different but I can say that levels appear to be gradually rising and getting better. This prolonged, cold winter aside, the ice cover will certainly help sustain lake levels.

Now....there's the case of poor Mallet who has been lamenting on the other site what water temps are going to do to his anatomy when he has to venture into the lake to install his water intake as soon as the ice leaves. If you can imagine a turtle resting its beak on a couple of raisins.....OK...walnuts, well you get the picture, which is probably going to be too graphic a mental image for irishfey.

So, how 'bout we lend a hand. Grump can pull the intake out into the lake, while you feed him the line (something you do anyway), Mallet can provide the beer, Weisen can cheer Grump on, and Irishfey and Peony can bring cookies. I'll record all for SooToday news. Could be an annual event.
bounder 3/6/2014 2:16:25 PM Report

The trouble with flatlanders.A fellow I know was married to a girl from Saskatchewan where he used to work, she decided enough was enough packed her bags and left him, five days later he could still see her walking away.ha ha.
Wisenheimer 3/6/2014 2:38:38 PM Report

Ok, let's try this.

Guy walks into a bar and yells, "all conservatives are morons".
Grump sitting at the end of the bar says " I object to that remark". Guy says "why are you a conservative". Grump says "no I'm a moron".
bounder 3/6/2014 2:41:23 PM Report

Good one ,I like that. ha ha .
irishfey 3/6/2014 3:11:45 PM Report

T rat... I think that we would make a rather interesting group :),, I gather your post was all in fun, but i"d really rather forget the nasty things i said to Mallet that day as it was just out of a wee fit of anger and it is all in the past now. I have respect for him and always did,, me temper just got away with me and i would like to forget i said those things as i"m sure he would too. I'm sure that all the posters would help out each other on here no matter what was said to each other,,, and yes, i would bring some cookies,lol... Now , behave and we will let you keep the T- in front of the rat ,lol....
Grump 3/6/2014 3:17:10 PM Report

Hey moron that's the second time you posted that and it still isn't funny. Carry on twit. Bounder sorry to say you aren't getting any brighter either.
irishfey 3/6/2014 3:17:54 PM Report

Just Curious... lol.. What??? ,lol.. I was just trying to help :),, ok, ok, I get the point.... Now i suspect i"ll be hearing from Pink Peony ,lol.... geee,, you have no sense of humour at all :) :)
Grump 3/6/2014 3:25:07 PM Report

T-rat you have a deal, I don't drink so Mallet can save some beer. I will use Wisen to pad the inlet so the large stones won't crush the pipe. Oh! happy day sung to it's own music. Wisen that will be the first decent thing you have done in your miserable little existence. I know I'm pushing it but could I have Bounder and Steely help me? Big smiley face.
Grump 3/6/2014 3:27:06 PM Report

Well that was a hoot but I still have a stack of quotes to get out of here this evening.
mallet 3/6/2014 3:30:11 PM Report

T Rat...

Sorry.... a few years ago I had a backhoe down on the beach and set the water line in under the reef I have in front of me... I don't have to venture into the lake anymore... I am pretty sure I used the past tense for those remarks.. only folks I every see out here "frolicking" in the lake are on the young side or not too bright.. when you go into the water here it has a "burning" sensation to the skin.. I prefer not to do that anymore!!
bounder 3/6/2014 3:31:47 PM Report

GRUMP' when you sign your quotes give them your pen name <<BIG BS'ER>>,.
Snobank 3/6/2014 3:41:50 PM Report

Thank you all for your response to my question. I found the information you provided very useful. Thanks again. (I guess I should tell the other people in my household about this as it could be me.)
bounder 3/6/2014 4:03:54 PM Report

GRUMP,
here for you to research, take a personality disorder test, visit www.similarminds.com, give us the confirmation that we already know you suffer from.
Spellchecker 3/6/2014 4:05:32 PM Report

Snobank, don't talk that way. Wasn't it just yesterday that we were strolling the halls of SCI and Mr. McGauley was checking lockers for unlocked locks so he could put them on backwards and upside down?
Snobank 3/6/2014 4:07:40 PM Report

Spelly, great memory. I wonder if he's still doing that in his "mansion in the sky"?
Spellchecker 3/6/2014 4:09:34 PM Report

He's probably waiting for us, lol.

Grandpa Ed, I'll see you at the Moose tonight.
right wing 3/6/2014 4:12:16 PM Report

Spellchecker

He could only put them on backwards.
They are not upside down until you lift them.

;)
Spellchecker 3/6/2014 4:13:29 PM Report

Right, it was actually backwards and sideways.
right wing 3/6/2014 4:13:43 PM Report

steelworker your 1:06:59 PM post...now that was funny!

Spellchecker 3/6/2014 4:14:27 PM Report

Sideways so it was very difficult to get at.
Spellchecker 3/6/2014 4:17:37 PM Report

We used to leave them unlocked so we would have an advantage on the race for a bus seat and if he found one unlocked it was standing room only on the bus.
Hunter101 3/6/2014 4:18:46 PM Report

mvnnth,

notpc pointed out all the proof you need in his/her post.

If you need more convincing than that, you're a zealot and you want to believe in global warming. You want to believe it so badly that you can't see the facts don't support it.

Temperatures were hotter before the industrial revolution, we had more ice on Superior this year than we did in '76.

A century from now, people will be looking back and saying "Remember how stupid people were back then? They believed (key word believed) in global warming!"

right wing 3/6/2014 4:24:26 PM Report

mvnnth

How about learning how to properly post a link.
Perhaps more folks might take the time to look at it.
I usually scroll on past links posted like yours.

This is your link properly done.
All you need is to highlight it and click on open link.

http://tinyurl.com/lw6vhxh

Here is the site on which you can do that.
You can have it posted to your tool bar.

http://tinyurl.com/

Hunter101 3/6/2014 4:25:21 PM Report

Also mvnnth, the people who fund those global warming studies have very deep financial interests in green companies. Of course they are going to pay for a study which supports their claims and business.

It's just like studies on drugs. If a drug company has an interest in a drug, they will fund the study and maybe even throw in a few extra bucks to keep the scientist "with a clear mind."

Do you know why Vioxx even made it to the market, along with the other selective COX-2 inhibitors? That is why.
Hunter101 3/6/2014 4:26:25 PM Report

Yes rw, I had to find it myself as well. Didn't think to make a big deal but I guess if you want to do something it should be done right.
Wisenheimer 3/6/2014 4:26:34 PM Report

grumpie .. they pulled the 1st one cause I mentioned you were an A-Hole.
Cleaned it up a tad. Still pretty funny though. Har, har.
Hunter101 3/6/2014 4:28:13 PM Report

Yeah you're right Wisen, the pulled it!

We wouldn't want to be perpetuating any lies, would we? ;)
right wing 3/6/2014 4:28:28 PM Report

...oh, and mnvth you're welcome.

...and on your link, once again, one authors opinion and zero sources backing his claims.
I look at both sides and always keep an open mind.
As I stated, of course climate change has/is/always will occur but I do not believe it is man driven by C02.
There are even, as is evident by one poster on here, idiots that can't differentiate between pollution and a green house affect.
Spellchecker 3/6/2014 4:30:31 PM Report

I used to do tinyurl but now I post the full link because it gives an indication of what the article is about and could provoke interest.

If I wish to read an offering I find it no problem to highlight an entire link and copy and paste it to the address bar.
right wing 3/6/2014 4:34:07 PM Report

Hunter101

All I am pointing out is if you want to back up your position by posting links fine...(everybody knows I'm all for googling) but make it easy for folks to hook up to it.
When I see links that I know I have to carefully omit parts to work, re-type or copy and paste in the address bar and half the time they don't work...I just scroll on by.
right wing 3/6/2014 4:37:13 PM Report

Spellchecker

Some of the links without the tinyurl are really long and don't offer much more of a clue as to where they might take you.
I also find that they don't work more than they do.
IMO that is up to the creative writer.
Gotta spark that interest.
right wing 3/6/2014 4:38:08 PM Report

...doing a tinyurl literally takes seconds.
Spellchecker 3/6/2014 4:42:22 PM Report

I always check when posting a link to ensure that it works. It always does unless it has been taken down.
Jack the Stripper 3/6/2014 4:44:32 PM Report

you;re postin porn
right wing 3/6/2014 4:46:16 PM Report

Hunter101

The same can be said of those that fund studies on the opposing side.
Oil companies as an example.
The bottom line is...climate change exists and has since the big bang that may have created our special floating blue ball.
The question is do you believe that an event of this enormous size is man driven by C02 that is created by man/the industrial evolution.
I personally don't.
I believe that given that our planet is in what is basically the "atmosphere of the sun", that our planets warming and cooling is driven by solar events.
Again I point out, do not confuse climate change with man made pollution as they are not the same thing.
Christina216 3/6/2014 4:56:37 PM Report

$581.00 PUC bill today..WOW. i cant believe this. this is friggen retarted. in the last 4 months i have spent $2100 on PUC
Hunter101 3/6/2014 4:57:37 PM Report

rw, yes I realize that, thank you.
Hunter101 3/6/2014 4:59:41 PM Report

Christina, I don't know if you have a gas furnace and/or water heater but by the sounds of it you still are using electric heat.

Big no-no these days. Switching to gas is a must.
Wild Turkey 3/6/2014 5:03:34 PM Report

Irish Fry---I was up at the hospital getting an M.R.I. and just got home.
All the talk about what to do when you find a dead loved one,coupled with having my whole body sent into this capsully thing put me in mind of that movie--"Soylent Green"It has to do with how society deals with an earth overcome with air pollution and how they made up for food shortages.The other topic of discussion to-day--global warming also played a role, I'm sure, so everything from to-day kind of tied into that movie.It really is worth alook.
To answer your query,---Wisen posted a really good joke--it was here one moment , and gone the next.All is not lost, however, as He "cleaned it up" a bit and reposted it. I thought it was hilarious,but someone else apparently didn't.That's what makes life interesting----everyone's sense of humour is different.
Christina216 3/6/2014 5:10:13 PM Report

Hunter101
easier said than done. im a renter. trying to save for a down payment for a house. but this last year PUC has raped my bank account. ask my landlord to fix the front and back door that i can see daylight all around and have to put a blanket on the bottom to keep the draft out and i get a response like "well the door on my house is 30 years old and i dont have a problem". just dont know what else to do anymore. glad spring is around the corner. i'll do my happy dance once i shut the breaker off for the baseboard heaters.
irishfey 3/6/2014 5:20:54 PM Report

Wild Turkey.. Thank you for explaining that.. Gee, i hope its not too serious with your MRI. No, i havn"t seen that movie but will try and get it, sounds interesting. And yes, we all have a sense of humour,, some just express it differently ,lol.. What would the World be without laughter,, best medicine ,lol... Hope things go well with you....
Hunter101 3/6/2014 5:22:53 PM Report

Christina, yeah it can be rough, I agree.

You know for when you do have your own house that gas is the best route to take.
Javaman 3/6/2014 5:52:10 PM Report

I suspect many seniors will be putting their homes up for sale this year and moving into an apartment. Seniors(I am one of them) need fixed costs that rent can offer. Monthly increases in PUC...gas bills..insurance etc are forcing seniors out of their homes.I would never suggest young people rent unless they cannot afford a home...but...at the other end of the life cycle it makes sense. Seniors,unlike young people, do not need to build "equity" anymore. That rainy day has come.
northernmale 3/6/2014 5:59:20 PM Report

Christina-- I have electric heat , I put in two gas fireplaces . My highest bill so far was for this month $179.00 I also just put in a gas hot water tank. My PUC bill was $330.00. I have no electric heat on .. My next move is a gas dryer and a gas stove. As hunter says if your going to buy a home make sure its natural gas. Not oil, propane , or Electric. They will keep in the poor house. If I was young and staring out I would build a house off the grid .
northernmale 3/6/2014 6:04:59 PM Report

Javaman-- funny you should say that, that is what we are doing.. Sick of all the increases. And it will never end . We have a federal, Provincial and municipals governments that thinks money grows on trees. They just keep spending. In a few years Canada and the Usa will be third world country's.. And who will support them. We are taking our money from our home and running.
Grump 3/6/2014 6:19:07 PM Report

Wild Turkey you should have told the swampers that Soylent Green stared Mr NRA himself Charlton Heston. They would have been all over it like flies on s***
Spellchecker 3/6/2014 6:30:31 PM Report

Change of plans, Grandpa Ed. Can't make it to the Moose after all.
steelworker 3/6/2014 6:44:06 PM Report

Grump strikes me as a "Tom Cruise" type of guy if you catch my drift.
Hunter101 3/6/2014 7:02:54 PM Report

I think I got ya. lol
BIG BROTHER 3/6/2014 7:05:33 PM Report

From Doctor rw:

'Again I point out, do not confuse climate change with man made pollution as they are not the same thing.'

I don't think anyone is confusing man made pollution with climate change. Except the Doctor.

Man made pollution is causing climate change. Of that, there is no question. Scientists all over the world agree that man produced CO2 is causing rapid climate change. RW is talking about cycles that take centuries to manifest into significant change. The scientists are referring to pollutants, that can be significantly reduced, as the culprits of change. (BTW, even if the scientists are collectively all wrong. Is there anyone who has a problem with living in a cleaner environment)
irishfey 3/6/2014 7:12:04 PM Report

Javaman and Northernmale.. We were thinking along those lines also,, selling and moving into an apartment. I don"t think our Pensions will cut it here.. I just feel like we would be loosing out independence and our "" woodstove "".. I would hate to be without that! We have some thinking to do, won"t be an easy one,, would be nice though not to have the hassels of a home and money in the bank to go on a wee trip or something.....
Hunter101 3/6/2014 7:14:40 PM Report

Big Brother, global warming works solely off the theory of CO2 release.

Any other chemicals are not included in that theory.
Wild Turkey 3/6/2014 7:18:18 PM Report

@Grump----Ya in retrospect that Charlton Heston guy turned out kinda weird.Who can ever forget "The Ten Commandments"?Then the whole "Planet of the Apes "thing.All good stuff.But that "Soylent Green"was pure genius.What got me was that fleet of Mack garbage trucks used for body removals.The ones in use to-day are little changed from the ones in that movie which dates from the70's.
He became a spokesman for gun ownership.
Many disagree with him,but in His heart He thinks He's right.It's still a free country---right?
BIG BROTHER 3/6/2014 7:43:47 PM Report

Thanks for confirming what I already stated Hunter.
Hunter101 3/6/2014 7:50:43 PM Report

Well, doesn't matter anyway... It's negligible.
right wing 3/6/2014 7:52:35 PM Report

B.B.

Thanks for the title and I wish I could bestow the same upon you...even in the most sarcastic way but....
You really don't have a clue what you are talking about, do you.
C02 is naturally occurring on this planet and is the very thing essential to its survival.
I would like you to explain how man made C02, which contributes a mere fraction of the total C02, is changing or can change our climate.
A single volcano in Iceland releases 150,000 to 300,000 tonnes of CO2 per day.

"RW is talking about cycles that take centuries to manifest into significant change."

Yes, yes I am...why... because that is what the history of this planet tells us ya dummy.

I will also ask you to explain why attempts where made to discredit the many scientists that originally started with the IPPC and then left because they publicly stated it was junk science.
While you are at it please explain why the IPPC changed from Man driven to global warming to climate change to climate pause.
It couldn't have anything to do with the numerous fraudulent "science studies" that were exposed could it....it couldn't have anything to do with the fact that this hoax all started in 1990 and it is now 2014 and none of the earlier disaster predictions have unfolded.
(this is where the new term "climate pause" comes in folks)
That's why they are now making new twenty year forecasts...stuff didn't go down so lets just push it into the next twenty years.
Unfortunately for this bunch on the wagon train to nowhere time is one thing this planet has in abundance.

I mean you koolaid drinkers are truly laughable.
The biggest clue that this is all a hoax...you have not heard a peep from Al Gore, he was smart enough to make his money and run.

Now lets take this statement that you made.

"The scientists are referring to pollutants, that can be significantly reduced, as the culprits of change."

So you are talking about C02, right.
Now tell us that you believe that if we shut down this entire planet...meaning all automobiles, industry, every single thing that is man made and produces C02 that this will stop climate change?
Please tell me that you believe that cause I want to have more fun....

Pink Peony 3/6/2014 8:07:07 PM Report

Irish, nice try! I'm quite content here all by my itty bitty self! Thank you very much. :)

T-rat, I don't make cookies. They are on my "don't do it" list but I'll bring a lovely, colourful and healthy veggie tray! Mallet would have to supply something other than beer (gag) though!

I haven't done too bad this year re: electricity. I have electric heat too but I can turn on each heater individually. Only the two living room heaters are turned on via wall thermostat. Because I have two big windows in the LR, one south facing, the other facing west, it heats my LR comfortably when the sun is shining. I may have to turn on the LR heat a bit in the evening but never for too long. There are benefits to a small home and one of them is it doesn't take much to heat it up. I'm ready to purchase a wood stove now and many just have it installed before next winter. I'll probably have to open windows in the winter with that thing!

The Moth is on! Have a good evening everyone!!
mvnnth 3/6/2014 8:09:58 PM Report

Right Wing

"one authors opinion and zero sources backing his claims."

More bunk and drivel.

This author did not express an opinion. If he did please point it out. The author pointed out that the "deniers" (you) never seemed to be able to, in your word, "back" up their contention that global warming was not related to industrial activity. If you can then do it.
right wing 3/6/2014 8:11:03 PM Report

One last thing for the day Big Bro...

I have to assume that you were an Al Gore supporter...probably invited some enviro-pals over and all watched an Inconvenient Truth and then reveled in how f*&ked the world was.
I know that if I wanted to be a rebel and start a cause I'd want a fella with your conviction on my side...truth be dammed.

So Big Bro....
Al Gores "ice free Arctic" prediction which started in 2007 was falsified by nature itself.
As a matter of fact the ice had expanded by then but...as I said, truth be dammed
He also claimed that the ocean would have risen significantly by now.
(and then he purchased ocean front property with all his hoax money)
His hockey stick graphs were also proven to be out to lunch.

Now here is my question to you...
Where do you place Al Gore now, as an opportunist or just plain wrong?
right wing 3/6/2014 8:15:45 PM Report

mvnnth

First of all get with your movements times...they abandoned "global warming", it didn't fit...it is now "climate change"...smart of them ain't it.
...and now "climate pause" because the temperatures are not co-operating.

I'll tell you what...I've posted enough for the day...
You tell me one simple thing...why has the terminology been changed from man driven global warming to climate change and just how climate pause works.
Come on reform me.
right wing 3/6/2014 8:18:54 PM Report

"If he did please point it out. The author pointed out that the "deniers" (you) never seemed to be able to, in your word, "back" up their contention that global warming was not related to industrial activity. If you can then do it."

See the mini ice age.
Tell me why Greenland use to be green and Northern Europe had vineyards.
Tell me why the ice cores don't support the co-relation to C02 and any of the planets warming and cooling except to follow it.

Ta-ta!
BIG BROTHER 3/6/2014 8:19:59 PM Report

Ya see rw, I don't profess to know shit from shinola, when it comes to climate change, global warming or CO2 for that matter. But I can read and decipher information. You doctor, on the other hand, like to throw around statistics like you actually understand them. You take references from proven quacks, as your sources and speak in no uncertain terms. It all sounds and appears to be fact based, even intimidating to the naive. Meanwhile, you throw stones at Al Gore, who is possibly just as quacky as you, certainly not moreso though, from the other side of the debate.

There is a difference in our approaches to the issue. I will take the word of the thousands of scientists from all over the world, who so happen to agree with one another, that man produced CO2 is causing climate change, over Joe the Plumber`s opinion. Joe may be correct, but odds are against him all the way.

mvnnth 3/6/2014 8:29:57 PM Report

"one authors opinion and zero sources backing his claims.

This author did not express an opinion. If he did please point it out.

You didn't, because he did not express an opinion. He didn't because almost 10,000 scientists reached a conclusion based on science. You, and others like you, are ignorant of the facts.
right wing 3/6/2014 8:52:41 PM Report

Big Bro...noticed you did not respond to any of the hard questions.
...and yes I truly believe you don't understand shit about it.
You think I don't understand this.
I would discuss this face to face with you any time.
Global warming became an interest of mine from the time it all started making headlines.
Why, because I have also had an interest in astronomy for over 20 years which led me to an interest in our planet, our solar system, the universe, the sun and to read many books on related topics.
My division on the topic started when it was claimed to be man driven.
I have certainly been accused of being opinionated but I will never apologize for being knowledgeable or a quick study.
I am far from an expert on this but I can assure you I am more than confident to discuss it and debate it with anybody.
I especially love discussing topics like this with folks with far more education on it then I have....that's how you learn.
Just a tip....the person that got me interested in all of it had a PHD from Harvard and now teaches many of these subjects at a Canadian University.
My favorite thing was testing my ability to retain facts with him.

You state that you take the word of thousands of scientist.
Fair enough.
There are also enough scientists on the opposing side armed with enough science, especially the historical science, to convince me.
Just remember the 70's when it was certain that we were heading to a global cooling period.
Thousand of scientist were convinced then also.
Tell me that these thousands of scientist today are not motivated by money.
As one skeptic put it "if you want money to study the habits of squirrels you had better state also how it co-relates to climate change."


BIG BROTHER 3/6/2014 8:55:34 PM Report

....and the Greenland theory you persist in throwing around. Ya know, why is Greenland called Greenland, if there wasn`t a time when the surface was not covered with green growth.

rw, you get something stuck in that concrete between your ears and there`s just no shaking it out.

I`ll let you google (you know how to do that don`t ya) the history. It`s tiring explaining things to those whose minds are already made up. Start watching John Stewart or The Colbert Report. You need to get the stick out of your arse. It`s pinching your brain.
Hunter101 3/6/2014 9:11:14 PM Report

My guess is everyone on here will be dead when global warming is found to be a hoax.

Let it be known that I didn't fall for it.

This is like arguing about God, who I also do not believe in.
irishfey 3/6/2014 9:46:56 PM Report

Pink Peony,,lol,, I was waiting for you to respond,, I already got an earful from Just Curious ,lol.. You both know it was said in fun, buy hey, one never knows,lol Yes,, get a woodstove!! We have a large living room that gets the sun all day, and i have had to open the doors on more than a few occasions, but it sure is worth it $$ wise. We have electric heat all upstairs and an older gas burner in the basement. Soon as we bought this place we put the woodstove in right away, and have never touched the electric. One other thing we did was to cut an opening high in the livingroom wall, that connects to the bedroom, so as the heat rises it goes into the bedroom,, we trimed the opening and it looks quite nice. Lots of little tricks you can do to improve with the flow of the heat. We got our woodstove at Kents on St. Joe Island,, i suggest you go there, he will fix you up with everything you need. When you get the black pipes that go from the stove to the ceiling, i suggest you get the ones that are double insulated, they cost a wee more but are worth it and i feel much safer with them.... If your home is small, you WILL be having the doors open quite a lot ,lol.. But you can get a smaller stove though to suit your needs. Another thing i love about a woodstove is that in case of a power failure, you can still be warm, make coffee and even cook on the top of them... snug as a bug in a rug ,lol....
irishfey 3/6/2014 9:50:58 PM Report

Christina.. I have an idea for you concerning your heat,, will post it tomorrow when i get all the facts, I think it will help you....
Jimssm 3/6/2014 9:58:07 PM Report

rw..

Leaving out the argument as to whether global warming is man made or not.....

The IPCC did not bring forward the global warming 'pause' notion, it was a report on CBS that caught on and went viral...

This is the explanation by the IPCC...

"the year 1998 was a record temperature year, due to a strong El Niño. So by making it the first year of an analysis you're stacking the deck. "If you shift just 2 years earlier, so use 1996-2010 instead of 1998-2012, the trend is 0.14 C per decade, so slightly greater than the long-term trend," explains Drew Shindell, a climate scientist at NASA who was heavily involved in producing the IPCC report. This is why climate scientists generally don't seize on 15 year periods and make a big thing about them."

You can take it for what it's worth, but it seems to make sense.
Christina216 3/6/2014 10:19:39 PM Report

thanks irishfey! i'll try anything that i haven't tried already..
if i HAD the option to put a wood stove or gas furnace in i would have done that. i WISH i had the option, especially the wood stove. i love the smell of burning wood.
Wisenheimer 3/6/2014 10:43:29 PM Report

Sootoday etiquette ... you can call posters "morons" 6 days to Sunday, but it's a no- no to refer to the potty mouthed neanderthal who offers up the daily nonsense, as the 1st class a-hole that he appears to be.
Just saying.
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