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View Room Comments for Wednesday, Mar. 5 2014

Wednesday, March 05, 2014   by: The View RoomWelcome to the SooToday.com View Room. This editorial feature is for you to post comments. To comment on a specific news story please post your comment directly under the news story.
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Grump 3/5/2014 4:05:42 AM Report

Good morning everyone. I certainly got my laughs for the day re my medical diagnosis from the masters of the swamp. My M.D. wouldn't agree with you about my blood pressure or likely anything else. By the way rw it wasn't me who got ticked off and picked up my crayons and went home several weeks ago in a huff. You clowns mistake total disgust at your rude, crude, dumb a**** posts for anger and high blood pressure. I believe my friends are correct and it's time to stop posting to the swamp. Ta, ta darlings. Have a great day all.
David Poluck 3/5/2014 6:24:34 AM Report

Good Morning Grump!
I see you are preparing for the spring ahead this weekend! Up early with a spring in your step!


statusquo 3/5/2014 7:17:05 AM Report

Big Bad Bob 3/4/2014 10:27:19 AM Report

"Si status quo croit vraiment les âneries qu’il a inscrites ici dans un mauvais anglais à 7h45, il n’ a qu’à aller se faire foutre. (Elles ne valent pas une réponse plus recherchée que ça !)"


Cher ami,

Excusez mon mauvais français, je suis un peu rouillé .

Je regrette le sarcasme n'est pas votre point fort , autant que de le faire pour moi-même.... c'est une belle idée, malheureusement il est anatomiquement impossible par peut-être deux pouces .

(Visage souriant)
right wing 3/5/2014 8:14:02 AM Report

Yes Grump was so not angry or bothered that he couldn't sleep so he just had to tell us how he's not going to post on here anymore at four in the morning.
Could it possibly be true....
Spellchecker 3/5/2014 8:18:47 AM Report

n'est ce pas
Spellchecker 3/5/2014 8:20:33 AM Report

Sorry I can't check the rest, status. That's all the French I remember. Glad to be of assistance on that one though.
Spellchecker 3/5/2014 8:23:57 AM Report

:)
Wisenheimer 3/5/2014 8:35:55 AM Report

Grump .. try this, go to work, just go to work. Don't say anything before you go. Remember that grumplestiltskin thingy I mentioned.
Gurpy 3/5/2014 8:43:32 AM Report

I want to say something and would gladly post my comment in the appropriate section of sootoday but, that is no longer possible!
I am referring to the news story which generated plenty of posts & has now been close to any further comments.
First to sootoday. That was NOT news and should`ve been under community events.
Secondly to the homosexual community. No one is "afraid" of you. You flatter yourselves! Get rid of some of your "PRIDE" and start acting like humans! Stop judging others and you just might find acceptance.
Do not attack those who do not agree with your lifestyle! Most of us do not care what is going on behind closed door regardless to if it`s coming from a homosexual or heterosexual!
Please stop drawing attention to yourselves through these petty arguments. You have the same rights as a heterosexual! You cannot DEMAND that anyone accept YOU or WHAT YOU DO! Get over yourselves!
I have finished with this topic and I believe sootoday should stop feeding into the WHINING of this group that clearly has nothing better to do than to attempt to control everyone including the actions of our city! If they do not like it here, by all means LEAVE and form your own city!
Good day and God bless to everyone!
right wing 3/5/2014 9:05:34 AM Report

"Stop judging others"

I can't believe she said that.

Gurph

While I agree with some of your points you paint with a real wide brush on the judging part.
As you love your bible what does it say about that.
Zing 3/5/2014 9:07:40 AM Report

WHINING? Just who is doing the whining here....
mvnnth 3/5/2014 9:16:55 AM Report

"Spellchecker 3/5/2014 8:18:47 AM Report

n'est ce pas"

For the record

n'est-ce pas
Jimssm 3/5/2014 9:17:58 AM Report

Gurp

"Stop judging others"


... as my jaw drops open.

"Pot, meet kettle"



I really want to understand why you are so afraid of SOMEONE ELSE'S lifestyle, but I think it would be a useless exercise.


The brainstorming meeting which got you all worked up is one of many that are going to be held for many different groups. The gay community just happens to be first. You could probably approach the organizers to have disadvantaged Christians like you included as one of the topics.

The very fact that Sootoday had to pull the comments section on that article should tell you that there is an attitude problem in the Soo that needs to be discussed.

Jimssm 3/5/2014 9:20:24 AM Report

N'est-ce pas ?

You forgot the question mark....lol


....as everyone piles on Spelly to avenge 'Words of the Week'.
Jimssm 3/5/2014 9:32:51 AM Report

May I ask a favour of the blue roomies ?

Today my wife and her group is passing through an area of Uganda controlled by the Christian militia known as the Lord's Resistance Army. She should be ok with her security people but when you have a 10 year-old holding an AK-47 anything can happen.

Could you send good vibes and prayers her way ?

Thanks.
irishfey 3/5/2014 9:34:12 AM Report

Good morning folks,, I have been off for a couple of weeks due to two deaths in the family, was very stressful to me. I did on occasion pop in to see some of the posts though.... JIMSSM... I saw your posts yesterday.. re.."" show me something Jesus said""... I know you read your Bible and at one point i thought you mentioned your belief in the Trinity, ( thought it was you, could be wrong )In any case, The Trinity would make Jesus God.. no?? Thus making what the Bible said came from Jesus,, that is just "" my "" understanding of it. I also do not agree with those who you and some call.. cherry pickers ,lol I lived across the street at one time from two very nice Lesbian Ladies,, I also gave a refference to the OPP Dept. as one of the gals was applying for a job. At that interview , not one thing was mentioned of her lifestyle and was just asked about what type of a person she was.. She got the job and is now an OPP Officer.. Amen! I seen some of the posts from 3/3/2014 concerning of what this site is becoming.. there were comments from J.C..Northern male, Fly and ZING. and i couldn"t agree more with them. I had even put meself in one of those catagories, which i will never do again,, as Fly had said.. "" I"m too old for pissing matches"",lol especially with the ones that are a wee daft in the head :) I was once asked by a certain poster as to why i never told me hubby that i was on this site, which was really none of their business , but the reason was as 66 cherokee had said,, me hubby would have said"" Why are ye looking at that crap" ,lol.. I hope this satisfies that wee nosey poster ,lol... Hope that your Wife is doing well and is safe......
irishfey 3/5/2014 9:39:05 AM Report

Jimssm She is in my prayers as we speak... Your Wife has guts!! I could never do that,, am too old and can"t run that fast ,lol.. Bless her!!
Big Bad Bob 3/5/2014 9:41:40 AM Report

Spellchecker
Because you are a literary perfectionist, please allow me to take the liberty of pointing out that staus quo left out a “que” and you omitted a “?”
Wicket 3/5/2014 9:55:33 AM Report

jimssm - positive thoughts and prayers for your wife and her contingent, keep us posted please. Also cyber hugs (((hugs))) for you as this must be very stressful for you - the mind never stops working and thinking...
mallet 3/5/2014 10:01:45 AM Report


Jimssm..

I hope your spouse is safe and well and returns home..
However having said that, why would you want and allow your wife to travel to an area as unsafe and unstable as that part of the world?? This is something I do not understand, why anyone would want to put themselves in harms way, however much you want to help people.. To go to places that are dangerous and then expect the government or other agencies to step in and secure you... Sorry Jim, I just do not understand...
bounder 3/5/2014 10:05:48 AM Report

A typical bully response is, I can dish it out but just not able to receive the same treatment. Woe is me. On the other hand a step away from is a step in the right direction.
Jimssm 3/5/2014 10:10:44 AM Report

Mallet...

Just so you know..

Security and medical etc. are all on our dime. Should the Canadian government have to step in themselves, we would be expected to repay everything personally. Even refugees sponsored by the government of Canada have to repay their plane fare. Our Blue Cross out of country coverage is also not applicable in such areas of the world.

It's a chance we take to try to make a difference. All I can tell you is that if you personally ever experienced it, you would be going back as often as you could.
Jimssm 3/5/2014 10:19:12 AM Report

Irish...

You don't need to be able to run fast... just be sure there's someone in your group slower than you.....lol.
Zing 3/5/2014 10:22:25 AM Report

mallet, you are putting words in Jimssm's mouth. He never said "expect the government or other agencies to step in and secure you" , did he?

Jimssm, may your wife make a safe and speedy return.
irishfey 3/5/2014 10:30:18 AM Report

Jimssm,lol,, thanks but i expect that I'd be the last,, I can"t even walk at a fast trot,lol.... Think positive thoughts,, your Wife and the others will be fine....
right wing 3/5/2014 10:32:11 AM Report

Jimmssm

Thoughts, vibes, prayers to your wife and her "gang".....


Bounder

Have you ever noticed that many folks don't name call or go on the defensive until they get a serving of it first.
Yes we can all take the high road and ignore it but personally I've always had a hard time resisting a good mud slinging session once that first handful is thrown.
irishfey 3/5/2014 10:38:47 AM Report

Rightwing,,lol... Yes we all enjoy a mud slinging at some point,, just ask the Irish ,lol,, But in some cases we might just want to see who it is that throws the mud first, then just feel sorry for them,, sometimes the "" highroad "" is better.....
right wing 3/5/2014 10:46:12 AM Report

irishfey

Agreed and there are some that I just ignore but there are others that I just can't resist...especially when you are so good a throwing the mud yourself.
I guess that is part of how I use/view this site...a place to duel/vent/thrown mud, usually all in good form.
As statusquo calls it...mental masturbation.
right wing 3/5/2014 10:47:09 AM Report

...oh, and irshfey sorry to hear of your troubles in losing those that you care about.
irishfey 3/5/2014 10:50:02 AM Report

I hope this site today continues as it is with "" well wishes " for others. We do forget just what a wonderful Country we live in... yes,, sometimes bad things happen but we have it made compared to what others in the World are going through.....
irishfey 3/5/2014 10:55:05 AM Report

Thank you Rightwing,,, and yes, we can"t forget Stats... isn"t he the one with the blow up doll named Darlene??... :),lol.. that wasn"t " mud " it was sand ,lol
flyhawk25 3/5/2014 10:57:59 AM Report

Jimssm...she is now on my prayer list.Bless her.
Jimssm 3/5/2014 11:00:39 AM Report

......It's too cold for mud......
notpc 3/5/2014 11:08:16 AM Report

A new development that should interest not only gun owners but anyone who owns anything that is potentially dangerous, is that the federal government just granted amnesty to owners of the firearms that were reclassified by the RCMP and deemed prohibited. Twelve years ago these Swiss Arms semi-auto rifles were ruled to be legal, but suddenly last week, the RCMP changed its mind and said they weren't. Owners who had paid over $3000 for a rifle would have had to turn them in without compensation or fail jail terms for a gun crime.

There are a number of issues at play here, including how the RCMP ever came to the conclusion that it could circumvent Parliament and make laws on their own. There is also the issue of arbitrarily making private property that has always been legal suddenly illegal without government being involved. Police forces are meant to enforce the law, not rewrite it.

Has the RCMP overstepped its bounds, again? I say "again" in reference to its actions in High River Alberta last spring when it invaded 2000 homes and confiscated firearms, even from homes that weren't flooded.
right wing 3/5/2014 11:11:55 AM Report

notpc

You mean its not Harper's fault?
bounder 3/5/2014 11:20:06 AM Report

Right Wing, I agree on what you said, a good mud slinging is ok , but the insults are not warranted sometimes it's on culture and religion, ancestry and a choice of other topics.
One of the reasons Aboriginal topics are taboo on this site.
Spellchecker 3/5/2014 11:21:46 AM Report

Well folks, I was close. Hanging my head in abject shame.
theprotector 3/5/2014 11:27:52 AM Report

wow, that even caused ME to take a second read gurpy!!! Now that is scraping the bottom of the barrel!!!
steelworker 3/5/2014 11:30:03 AM Report

Don't sweat it Spelly; not everyone is good at a dying language. How many people speak Latin anymore?
theprotector 3/5/2014 11:32:01 AM Report

rcmp only enforce the laws - get a grip! Those guns that were secured during the flood were all returned to those that had them legally and properly stored. For those that didnt, suck it up.
Gun ownership in Canada is not a right!
Always has been and always will be regulated with safety in the forefront.
steelworker 3/5/2014 11:41:12 AM Report

Safety my butt. It's all about government paranoia and control.
Wild Turkey 3/5/2014 12:01:16 PM Report

Jimssm-----Best wishes and safe travellin' to your better half.
My Sister and Her Husband spent some time in Uganda with C.U.S.O.In fact my nephew was born there and is a citizen of Uganda.They came home when Idi Amin started acting up.
On the bright side it is a beautiful country.Jimmy Rollins and some other major leaguers have spent time starting up a baseball program over there, and some of those kids even made it to the Little League World Series in Pennsylvania last year.
So a big Jambo to the ladies, and watch out for Simba And Tempba!!!!!!
Grump 3/5/2014 12:06:49 PM Report

Jimssm My prayers for your wife and her group. May their journey be safe and fruitful.
Grump 3/5/2014 12:12:19 PM Report

rw@The Swamp, Wisen@TheSwamp, Bounder@TheSwamp. LMAO Three times. Special mention to you Steely as yours was not personal.
steelworker 3/5/2014 12:21:43 PM Report

It's like being mentioned in dispatches from the frontlines.
shakespeare 3/5/2014 12:33:12 PM Report

For all you French experts, it should be pointed out that status quo's "n'est pas" was totally correct.
Off to explore some rock pools, after breakfast.
Wisenheimer 3/5/2014 12:47:11 PM Report

Grump@thepsychiatrist
lookaround 3/5/2014 12:50:00 PM Report

Wow and yawn
lookaround 3/5/2014 12:51:01 PM Report

Some really stupid and childish comments on here.
notpc 3/5/2014 12:51:05 PM Report

the protector

Interesting response! Let's address the issues you raise. First, in High River, the RCMP stated that it was taking guns that were in plain sight and could be a danger. They lied. They actually knocked down doors, broke into locked closets and cabinets and took firearms. They also broke into homes that were not in the flood zone. So it wasn't safety that motivated the RCMP. It was on their agenda to confiscate. By the way, they only stated that they would return them to the owners after Sun News broke the story.

Second, you are correct in stating that gun ownership isn't a right, at least in Canada. Neither is car or ATV or even home ownership. So imagine you own an ATV or a muscle car, both potentially dangerous items that have killed and maimed people. You bought them legally, but 3 years later, the RCMP decrees that your model of ATV or car is now prohibited and you must turn it in immediately. Without compensation. If not, you go to jail! If you can imagine that scenario, then you can perhaps understand how legitimate gun owners feel. If, of course, you still feel that the RCMP should have that right, then your idea of what living in a democracy ought to be, would be quite different from that envisioned by most people.
bounder 3/5/2014 12:51:52 PM Report

GRUMP,
me a swamper nah, so much for your first post of the day, as usual nothing but BS .
Some thought adios, but wasn't meant to be.
Spellchecker 3/5/2014 12:54:36 PM Report

Man, I was afraid of that. If he was right I'll be in big trouble when he gets off work.
bounder 3/5/2014 12:56:55 PM Report

NOTC
if you have a gun at home it's probably a 105 Howitzer or a 155 Howitzer, or crew operated machine guns. What the population have at home are rifles and hand pistols or firearms.
Wisenheimer 3/5/2014 1:07:38 PM Report

For the Grumper .. when he gets back from
work or whatever.

Sung to the tune of "where oh where has my little dog gone".

"Where, oh where has the senate scandal gone ?
Oh where oh where can it be ?
With Duffy out east, and Pam doing lunch.
And not a peep outta the old CBC".

Spellchecker 3/5/2014 1:12:25 PM Report

n'est-ce pas - isn't it

n'est pas - is not

I'm afraid shakes is right. I mustn't return this evening, lol. See you folks tomorrow.

:(
steelworker 3/5/2014 1:16:51 PM Report

lookaround: they started at 4:05 a.m.
Tag33&1/3rd 3/5/2014 1:18:23 PM Report


Lol you guys must all live downtown eh?
Everyone talking about FiberOP --its only available in the downtown area of the City!??? Geeez too bad!
lookaround 3/5/2014 1:21:46 PM Report

Senate scandal is still around and so is Harper for now, but 2015 is looming fast and I will remember when my ballot is checked off. Time for a change anyway 8 years is too long without any change. We need change for the good. Anyone friends with Ford has to be a bad politician. Canadians are getting restless.
Grump 3/5/2014 1:50:01 PM Report

lookaround the reason there are stupid and childish comments are because we have some stupid and childish posters. Watch for these swampers coming back pointing fingers. ( Those that aren't webbed). Would some one please advise Bounder to take some reading comprehension because I didn't say I wasn't posting. Now I'm only posting to those that can carry on a civil conversation. This certainly doesn't include the swampers.
theprotector 3/5/2014 1:53:45 PM Report

there was a delcartion of a state of emergency, under these circumstances there is an obligation for public safety. look at the looters that were caught and charged...imagine the ones that got away.

There is no evidence what so ever that the so called "breaking story" of the rcmp not returning the firearms...that is simply false. It is more of a timing issue than an attempt of the national police force to steal a few dozen hunting rifles...hahaha come on!!
bounder 3/5/2014 2:06:00 PM Report

Grumpy Thought you weren't posting to swampers,
12:12:19 post you mentioned Bounder@swamp with a few others, but you weren't posting to me where you.
Better to tell the truth than lies , than you don't have to remember your lies.
irishfey 3/5/2014 2:31:37 PM Report

Spellchecker.. You"r (??,lol) feeling bad because you didn"t know how to spell a Latin word?? Think of what you have been putting up with on here with our spelling, not i of course :) ,LOL.. Don"t be so hard on yourself,,, just say you have Fibro and had a wee case of brain fog.. works every time ,lol....
steelworker 3/5/2014 2:42:27 PM Report

lookaround: the Senate "scandal" is old news. Even Tom Fife and that gotch-eyed Craig Oliver can't get that dog to hunt anymore. Where's the big bombshell fat Duffy was going to kill the Tories with? <crickets> The Duffster is humping his new book to try and milk the so-called "scandal" but unless he has pictures of Harper and Nigel Wright in bed with Wallin he's got zip,nada sfa.
Hunter101 3/5/2014 2:51:30 PM Report

theprotector, you're about as useful as tits on a log.
EricThe SHERIFF 3/5/2014 2:52:09 PM Report

Speaking of the swamp, the Swamp People are back tonight @ 9:00PM on the History Channel.
theprotector 3/5/2014 2:54:27 PM Report

really hunter and why is that, because you are a redneck piece of garbage? Or because you simply disagree with what really happened out there? Either way, lets meet and discuss mr. fancypants...BAHAHAhA - loser
Hunter101 3/5/2014 3:16:58 PM Report

No... because you're a piece of garbage.
Hunter101 3/5/2014 3:20:54 PM Report

Think what you like protector, firearm owners know the truth about what happens and no all of the guns weren't returned.

A state of emergency doesn't give police the right to search your property and confiscate firearms which are legally stored.

It is also not their job to come up with their own laws regarding firearms. They are only supposed to enforce laws made by government.

That is characteristic of a police state.

End of discussion, you're wrong.

Not my fault you're anti-gun.
Grump 3/5/2014 3:29:10 PM Report

Hunter and just what part of this are you not getting? Mr Law and Order Harper is running that show but you neo-cons want to bitch but you keep tip toeing around Harper's involvement.
Grump 3/5/2014 3:30:06 PM Report

Good Lord every old guy can use a niner.
Hunter101 3/5/2014 3:34:13 PM Report

Sure, Grump.
Just Curious 3/5/2014 3:40:44 PM Report

Hunter, if you compare Canada to a police state you really need to get out of the basement more often.. We live in one the best countries in the world and still you guys criticise it.. How many of your firearms did they confiscate? None?? Well there you go, you have absolutely nothing to complain about.. And I don't really blame them after all the people they have lost in the last few years to regular hunting rifles. anyway, to sum up, if a half dozen heavily armed cops show up at your door and take your guns they must have had a reason, and all you will do about it after you stop shaking is get on here and piss and moan about it...:)
Hunter101 3/5/2014 3:53:46 PM Report

Just Curious, typical uneducated answer.

I compared the RCMP to "conducting themselves as such."

I never said Canada was a police state.

Second, if some cops come to your door and ask for your guns, there is most certainly not always a reason. Look at the Ian Thompson case. That was unjustifiable.

People lost to hunting rifles.... Hmmmm.....

People lost to cars, knives, hammers, stupidity?

Pretty small picture if you think about using that as a reason.

If they ban one type of gun, what's to say they won't ban another. Look what happened to rifles in Australia. If it was semi-auto they confiscated it.

Use your damn head.
Hunter101 3/5/2014 3:59:09 PM Report

Sorry JC, but if you have your convincing shoes on, try to point them at someone else.

Firearms owners are standing up nation wide. Mr. Hayes is in town on the 17th, and I have a meeting booked.
notpc 3/5/2014 4:25:34 PM Report

Just Curious
It's a bit surprising how readily you justify the RCMP actions in High River and again last week by implying that if they didn't take Hunter's guns, then why worry. That's exactly how the RCMP hopes people will think. The RCMP doesn't want people to think through the ramifications of a police force making up laws as they go because of a preconceived agenda.

Perhaps the only way to wake up the sleeping citizens who don't care unless it happens to them is for the police to do as I mentioned in my previous post. Ban certain models of things that everybody has like cars, kitchen knives, ATVs, etc and put people in jail if they don't give them up. People who so readily accept the erosion of other people's rights might wake up when their own rights are taken away.
Hunter101 3/5/2014 4:27:31 PM Report

notpc, couldn't agree more.
Just Curious 3/5/2014 4:29:03 PM Report

Hunter, keep track of your own bullshit...Your 3:20.54 post did compare Canada to a police state. And it was hunting rifles that took out several RCMP officers in the west recently..You just quite simply have very little respect for authority unless you personally want it.. Don't get me wrong, I used to do all the mean little things you big-time hunters do to wild animals but I grew up.. Haven't owned a gun in years and don't feel any less a man because of it.. You guys sound like someone is cutting off your testicles when confiscating firearms is mentioned....
Jimssm 3/5/2014 4:33:43 PM Report

Hunter and notpc...

If the RCMP are so intent on getting your guns by hook or by crook, why isn't your Conservative government telling them to back off ?

This tinfoil hat stuff is silly sometimes.

...for the purpose of full disclosure, my first 'adult' job was with the RCMP.
Hunter101 3/5/2014 4:33:53 PM Report

"It is also not their job to come up with their own laws regarding firearms. They are only supposed to enforce laws made by government.

That is characteristic of a police state."

Where did I mention Canada? I was talking about the RCMP.

Second, some guy killing police officers isn't my fault, so don't blame me. The criminals are going to get guns one way or another. I have NOTHING to do with it.

Third, yeah you are less of a man. For letting your right and privileges evaporate you're a coward, and a sell-out.

Change your screen name to "Just Stupid."
Just Curious 3/5/2014 4:34:18 PM Report

notpc; some one has to explain to me why in hell they think everyone should have a gun. WHY ??? I haven't owned one in years and don't care.. I'm quite sure if the US decides to invade us that owning a half dozen guns isn't gonna slow them down much. You and Hunter should move in together so you can cover each others backs in case a boy scout troop tries to take over your neighborhood...LOL...:)
Hunter101 3/5/2014 4:35:16 PM Report

Jim, so you're biased.

An amnesty has already been created so the owners of these rifles cannot be held criminally responsible. The tin foil hat argument falls short here,

The RCMP went above and beyond the law here.
Hunter101 3/5/2014 4:36:29 PM Report

No one said everyone should have a gun JC, you're putting words in our mouths.

If you don't want to own a gun that's your choice. Just because you don't want to doesn't give you the right to take away the right to property of others.
Hunter101 3/5/2014 4:38:26 PM Report

And guess what JC, there's someone at Perry's Gun and Bow right now buying a rifle, and the best part is you can't do anything about it.
steelworker 3/5/2014 4:40:42 PM Report

I think that a lot of people should not have access to the internet and this should be enforced by the RCMP. Only the rich or politicians should have access. All others can turn in their computers or risk criminal charges.
Hunter101 3/5/2014 4:42:28 PM Report

Yeah steelworker, I think your computer could be dangerous. There's moving parts in it that an fly off and kill you. And if a child gets hold of it, they can choke on the small plastic keys.

Hand it over sonny!
Zing 3/5/2014 4:47:57 PM Report

"you're putting words in our mouths."

OUR mouths? Yours and who else's?

Hunter101 3/5/2014 4:48:41 PM Report

He mentioned notpc and I...
Jimssm 3/5/2014 4:50:18 PM Report

The Swiss Carbine owners have their amnesty and get to keep their guns...
So the problem is ????

I really don't understand what thought process some people use that leads them down the 'government conspiracy' path.



It's so ... well... American.
Jimssm 3/5/2014 4:52:07 PM Report

.....Black....


....Helicopters....



....Everywhere.....
Hunter101 3/5/2014 4:52:25 PM Report

Jim, the amnesty is temporary and is only a delay. Once an amnesty runs out they can so "Ok, time's up, hand in the rifles."

The purpose of the amnesty is to buy time for something to be done whilst keeping gun owners out of legal trouble and losing thousands of dollars.

It is not a solution, it is a step in the right direction.
Hunter101 3/5/2014 4:55:09 PM Report

Jim, it's not a conspiracy. Gun confiscation happened here in the 1990's when the Firearms Act came into effect. It happened in Australia. It almost happened in the United States.

It WILL happen if people Canadians sit idle and let the RCMP act as a rogue force.
Grump 3/5/2014 4:56:01 PM Report

Lol Hunter, Steely and Wisen shouldn't have computers because the can't put a decent post together. Just hair brained garbage that fails to make whatever point they were trying for. Don't tell them that there are moving parts or they will be tearing them apart to look. Now that I have read that sentence, tell them all you like. LMAO
notpc 3/5/2014 4:57:22 PM Report

Just Curious
According to StatsCan, in 2011, 35% of homicides were carried out by knives, versus 27% by guns of which 2/3 were by handguns. That means that knives were used in homicides about 4 times more often than long guns. By your rationale that because rifles were used to kill some officers, we should be looking at confiscation of certain models of knives before we ever start looking at long guns. Knives are far more likely to be used for murder.

As for your comments about hunting, it appears from what you say that you perhaps believed that hunting was all about feeling like a man. You quit hunting and maybe it's because you don't feel the need that you assume other hunters have. For most other hunters though, that's not their motive at all. They do it for completely different reasons that you apparently don't understand. That's fine. Just don't be so critical of those whose rationale is outside of your area of interest.
Hunter101 3/5/2014 4:58:27 PM Report

Here we go, they ran out of arguments so the bashing is near.
steelworker 3/5/2014 5:05:57 PM Report

Twelve hours later and poor Grump is still babbling like a loon. Totally incoherent. The Thought Police are coming for your computer but don't worry, the Libs say it's doubleplus good all round.
notpc 3/5/2014 5:07:49 PM Report

Hunter

You've been here a lot longer than I have, so you must know the crowd. To paraphrase what you said, when the bashing starts, you know they've run out of "ammunition".
Hunter101 3/5/2014 5:14:13 PM Report

notpc, nice touch.
Just Curious 3/5/2014 5:27:38 PM Report

Hunter....RCMP =Royal CANADIAN mounted Police... What a bunch of crap..

notpc... I am sure it makes you guys into real HE MEN to put a bullet between the eyes of some deer that you have been feeding apples to all winter so you could be sure they would come when the season begins... Not owning a gun doesn't make me feel much one way or another other than a little more sane than some of you airheads that think you are not whole without a weapon. When people start making light of the fact that law enforcement officers are getting gunned down regardless of exactly what gun is used to do it we have degenerated beyond redemption..And I am not gonna waste anymore time on this.. It's like pounding sand down a rat hole, they just keep digging another exit...:)
Hunter101 3/5/2014 5:29:41 PM Report

JC, good. We didn't want to hear it in the first place.
right wing 3/5/2014 5:45:31 PM Report

Just Curious

Your entire analogy on hunting and firearm ownership ("owning a gun makes one a he man") tells me that you know absolutely nothing about it.
Jimssm 3/5/2014 5:48:27 PM Report

Hunter...

If you don't think it's a conspiracy, what is the reason you think the government wants to confiscate your guns ??

The reasoning that is always just under the surface is that the government takes your guns with a knock on the door in the middle of the night and then 'takes over'.

I have posted on here several times about how the government listens to your cell conversations, your texts, reads your emails, tracks your movement... yet no one seems to care... why would you think John Q Public would care about hunters ?
Hunter101 3/5/2014 6:04:23 PM Report

Jim, don't make the mistake of thinking I don't care just because I don't reply to your posts about said monitoring.

I'm talking about something that has already happened and that appears to be happening again.

Think about it, rifle or not, if the government told you to surrender something you spent your hard earned on would you?

For no reason, to boot. The kicker here is none of the 1800 or so rifles which were deemed prohibited in the blink of an eye were EVER used in a crime. Think about that. Over a decade in this country and ne'er a crime with any of those 1800. It proves we as legal firearm owners have done nothing wrong and now are being punished because the RCMP don't trust us. The very people they background check daily using their database.
Wisenheimer 3/5/2014 6:07:30 PM Report

Grump .. Hard day kicking ass ? Your last post was mysterious and unfathomable in it's meaning.
RCMP contact you yet ?
Grump 3/5/2014 6:37:37 PM Report

Well we have bites again. Steely@The Swamp, Moronwisen@The Swamp, Bounder@The Swamp. LMAO again 3 times.
Hunter101 3/5/2014 6:54:31 PM Report

notpc, if you haven't been here long, I'll give you this place in a nutshell.

When you put a well thought out post on here prepare for it to be lost in the wind. Your posts have been excellent from what I see and you've already been victim of attacks.

What you have in here is a bunch of know-it-all, chip-on-the-shoulder, I-told-you-so bunch of no-gooders. The concept of what actually happens goes straight over their heads.

Please, don't be alarmed. They play a game on here called the one-up game. They try to find any little nuance that makes sense to them and twist logic so they can appear to have better rationale than you.

Keep posting as you have. I, for one, appreciate your objectiveness.
bounder 3/5/2014 6:56:40 PM Report

Not to worry about GRUMP he's suffering idiosyncrasy syndrome.
mallet 3/5/2014 6:59:45 PM Report

Jimssm and Zing...

I just got back from town and am catching up on the posts.
Jim, I sincerely hope that your wife has a safe event free journey and returns home safe and sound. I was not thinking of the cost or anything like that but, I was just thinking back to the events around another person from the Soo, Mr Looney, who was held captive for somewhile, and everyone was on the government to step in and take some action to secure his release. I have been down in the Chad region of north Africa, but was working there, not in a refugee assistance mode. The one thing that I found somewhat disturbing shall we say is that no one had food but bags of guns and ammo. I also admit this was about 25 years ago and things may have changed, but somehow doubt that.
Zing 3/5/2014 7:28:05 PM Report

No worries Mallet, just thought you may have read too far between the lines, that's all, no harm intended.
right wing 3/5/2014 7:54:52 PM Report

Grump

I knew you could not stay away from your teething ring.
Many habits don't die with age.
You are close to having one of your seismic tantrums again, getting red faced, kicking screaming...soon you can have a nap with your comfort blanket.
Hopefully you don't wake before 4:a.m. again.
Perhaps your wife can rub your tummy.....
right wing 3/5/2014 7:56:53 PM Report

Hunter101

You've pretty much summed up those that call us the swamp people...
A hat that I have no problem wearing.
irishfey 3/5/2014 8:09:39 PM Report

All this talk about guns reminds me of many years back when i had my first place and was living alone,, me Dad gave me a nice 22 semi automatic. He told me that if anyone ever broke into me house, i was to shoot.. not at the arms or legs, but right in the middle, then drag the body off of me property ,lol.. Not to toot me own horn, but i was a crackerjack shot.. ( no, i never shot anyone ,lol ) I even won at a turkey shoot years ago,lol.. Is just my opinion, but i think that every homeowner should have a gun and me Hubby is a hunter so we are well stocked... I don"t like it when he shoots the deers though, they are so pretty. I still have that little beauty and would not give it up for any reason!... People kill people, not the guns. No,, having a gun don"t make you a Man,, just makes you smart..... Now , this is just "my" opinion....
Hunter101 3/5/2014 8:16:44 PM Report

irishfey, I agree with your opinion. Some people don't share that opinion. That is fine. I would never try to convince someone to own a gun. It is a personal choice.

That being said, they don't seem to have a problem trying to tell me why I shouldn't own one. However, that is a problem.

I can give all the proof of how safe I am and most legal firearm owners are and it just gets brushed away and dismissed.

Think about how nutty people get when it comes to the word gun. The very mention of the word can make some wet their pants.
Hunter101 3/5/2014 8:17:32 PM Report

rw, thanks! Then my post succeeded.
irishfey 3/5/2014 8:31:17 PM Report

Hunter 101.. What bothers me is that they want to take away our guns and that leaves us helpless in protecting ourselves. The bad guys out there will always have a way of getting their hands on guns, so whats the point? !! I do think that some folk should be really checked out before they are allowed to own a gun though, some real nut cases out there! I have had some folk tell me that since i am a Christian, i should not have any guns in the house.. I just reply.. the good Lord gave me brains to and i intend to use them!... I told this one to Mallet before.. We have a " small" sign on the garage and it reads... " This house is guarded by shotgun, three days a week,, you guess which three "" ,lol,, We have never had a problem!....
Hunter101 3/5/2014 8:39:30 PM Report

irishfey, I agree with your post.

I have found that posting your used target in the window can let them decide if they should take their chances.
irishfey 3/5/2014 8:48:21 PM Report

Just seen on Sootoday...'" Weapons charges in Blind River"... Tiss folks like that , that make it hard for the rest of us!... This is funny.. when Mallet and i were talking before, we said to put out a couple of BIG tow chains with dog clasps on the end of them,,, those and the gun sign should do the trick, unless the crooks were a complete moron ,lol..... and to all a good " safe " night....
sparks7 3/5/2014 9:55:36 PM Report

Well I have hunted all my life and I will say this.Many "hunters" out there today do not have a clue what hunting is all about.It's best to stay as far away from these types as possible.You will recognize them when you see them driving the roads endlessly on their atvs and trucks in the hopes of seeing something they can shoot.Lots of them will be wearing only orange "successful" moose hunter baseball caps even though the temp outside is around freezing.They can get away with that because about the only time they get out of their trucks is to take a piss and grab another beer.The ones that are carrying guns that look more like military assault than hunting rifles should especially avoided. IMO.
sparks7 3/5/2014 10:01:58 PM Report

be avoided
Hunter101 3/5/2014 10:14:56 PM Report

sparks, if you're so opinionated that you're judging a man based on the rifle he prefers, be it modeled after an assault rifle or not, you have no business in the woods. It's ignorant and rude people like you who ruin it just as much as the drunk people who drive around in their trucks and ATV's.

If you know anything, you'd know that Remington modeled a rifle after the Colt M4 carbine called the Remington VTR. A great rifle for deer. Of course, anyone who uses that rifle must be a moron according to you.
Hunter101 3/5/2014 10:20:32 PM Report

By the way sparks, show me a rifle that wasn't meant to "assault." It's a made up term. It's used by people such as yourself who look at a rifle and think the way it looks has a lot to do with the way it functions.

The way a rifle or shotgun looks has very little to do with function. Function depends on the internals and the design of the moving parts. So you avoid those people, they won't appreciate your narrow mind either.
Hunter101 3/5/2014 10:22:00 PM Report

Have a good night all.
statusquo 3/5/2014 11:06:45 PM Report

Sleep tight Hunter.....don't let the RCMP bugs bite...remember, they'll be watching !
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