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David Poluck 3/2/2014 6:16:10 AM Report

Good Sunday Morning everyone!
Status, I read your comments on Ukraine's involvement during the second wold war.
You were partially correct but this link helps with as Paul Harvey used to say..."The rest of the story"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_collaborationism_with_the_Axis_powers

Being of Ukrainian decent myself I found out things I never would have thought to look up!
Thanks

David Poluck 3/2/2014 6:26:34 AM Report

I can understand why My great grand parents immigrated back in the late twenty's to Canada.
Freedom from the insanity.
Grump 3/2/2014 7:22:39 AM Report

Good morning everyone and David. When I was in Saudi I hired a Ukrainian/Canadian architect but had a hell of a time getting him a visa as the Arabs hated the Russians and anyone even close to them. The Nazi connection wouldn't bother them as they quietly supported the Germans. Anyway I finally got his visa and two months later he took over as Construction Manager of a large project in Yanbu. The Saudis run their political system somewhat like Harper. What's the best for me first and to hell with everyone else unless they are my buddies and haven't been thrown under the bus yet. Have a great day all.
David Poluck 3/2/2014 7:42:03 AM Report

Grump,,What I found interesting is even though they came to Canada way before the war, their son, my great uncle went back with the Canadian forces to fight the Germans.

Harper and JT's antics are small potatoes in comparison to what is going on over there!


Gurpy 3/2/2014 8:00:25 AM Report

Anyone know how to thaw a bath tub drain? Water is running just fine. Drain`s been frozen for two days.
flyhawk25 3/2/2014 8:01:53 AM Report

I honestly don't know what we expect the PM to do in the Ukraine.
Best we sit and watch it unfold, when it ends humanitarian aid to the people.We are a tenth the population of the US and we cannot afford to send money.
Wisenheimer 3/2/2014 9:00:42 AM Report

What I can't understand, is why your every waking hour is consumed with Stephen Harper ?
If responding, try, not to use potty, juvenile language.
And yes Grump we know you worked in Saudi, Arabia. You might want to give that a rest.
Wisenheimer 3/2/2014 9:01:45 AM Report

Gurp .. drano.
Javaman 3/2/2014 9:03:46 AM Report

Is the Ukraine that poor that we should send money? Are they asking for Canada's help? Is Harper simply looking for Ukrainian votes here in Canada?
Wild Turkey 3/2/2014 9:09:13 AM Report

According to the last census 500,000 Canadians claimed Russian ancestry.What about them?Why pull our Canadian Ambassador when right now negotiation and accommodation is the best option.Canada should strive to be a peace maker, and not take sides.
Jimssm 3/2/2014 9:22:50 AM Report

Wild turkey...

We DO need to take sides. Russia is thumbing their nose at the laws and borders of a sovereign country.

... and it shouldn't matter at all how many Russians live in Canada.

If Canadian citizens of American descent complained they didn't like our current government, would that justify the USA invading Canada?
bounder 3/2/2014 9:23:48 AM Report

Gurpy they sell at Canadian tire or some similar store a blue liquid that is heavier than water and will do the job for you.
Jimssm 3/2/2014 9:26:57 AM Report

I have been travelling in Southern Ontario quite a bit the last week or so, and it's nice to see the Soo gas prices lower than down south for once.

Pilgrim 3/2/2014 9:57:31 AM Report

@ Gurpy

Look for something called Liqui-Fire

TFinn 3/2/2014 10:02:10 AM Report

Jimssm 3/2/2014 9:26:57 AM

I don’t know what charts you’re looking at ? But GTArea gas prices are lower than in the Soo .! 1.26/lt Niagra area

Anyway ....It is ridiculous ...the oil companies are making billions ... and shoving it down the consumers throats. On average it’s 1.60 more per 4 litres in Canada than the US
mallet 3/2/2014 10:29:19 AM Report

TFinn.

Tax, old son, TAX, that is about the reason for the difference in prices one side of the border to the other. I could go on but the higher the price the more the Governments get in HST rip offs.
theprotector 3/2/2014 10:30:23 AM Report

HAHAHAHA there is a good source....just look it up on wiki!!!!!
BAHAHAHAHA
theprotector 3/2/2014 10:35:07 AM Report

Is there nobody at the PUC worth a damn? YOu got water techs who cant explain why the water is brown! And why it smells like a swimming pool. Lie to the public like we are as dumb as he right. Even the planning department cant even figure out how to plan a subdivsion. I know it cost a friend of mine a fortune because of a planning error...really fire the planners ass and get someone in there that knows what they are doing! Enough of this already!!
Man there are more puc trucks parked at tim H than police cars now and I wish I would get a 30 to 45 min break in the morning and then one right after my extended lunch. Time them and see for yourself!
mallet 3/2/2014 10:57:35 AM Report

Flyhawk, Javaman and Jimssm..

Basically world opinion, yes they are poor and it is a little more complex than that. If Canada sat back and did nothing, we would be seen as weak. Most of the Eastern European countries are that poor when compared to the original E. U. and this blew up because the then president did not sign an agreement with the E U which would have allowed the Ukrainians free access to the E U but instead was tempted by a 15billion infusen of cash to keep the country afloat from Russia. All disputes are about the money and if you follow the trail you will find the root cause...
TFinn 3/2/2014 11:05:58 AM Report

lol ... does the water smell like "class action"
Big Bad Bob 3/2/2014 11:15:47 AM Report

When commenting on certain subjects, I believe that it is always good to admit one’s own prejudices.
1. I despise Communism, particularly after working up close to its adherents for two hitches in Indochina. For me these guys have two main precepts:
(1) The end justifies the means, and
(2) Rule of law and simple fair play are for patsies.
2. For me Putin had a Communist face from the first moment when I saw his mug on television. He was raised by those jerks, not only in their basic ideology, but as an agent of the KGB, the Soviet version of the Nazi Gestapo with everything bad that such a comparison implies.
3. This morning I heard a commentary by a French expert concerning the current Ukrainian crisis and Putin’ s probable intentions which convinced me. It went along the following lines:
(a) Krushchev transferred Crimea , which had been part of Russia for centuries, to the Ukraine in 1954 as part of a hare-brained scheme for growing wheat contrary to the laws of nature. Crimea nevertheless retained a certain autonomy as a sop for its mainly Russophone population. Meanwhile, during the Soviet hegemony, the eastern part of the Ukraine itself had become populated by a substantial number of Russophones as well.
(b) The breakaway regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia which are legally part of the tiny nearby country of Georgia, have long been outside of the control of that country's government. They have their own de-facto governments, are supported by Russia, and Russian troops are stationed there.
3. An analogy between the fate of Georgia and a likely future Russian takeover of Crimea and the mainly Russophone eastern part of the Ukraine is manifestly self-evident.
For my own part, as for the international deliberations and palaver which will likely precede the foregoing probability, forgive me if the word “Munich” comes to mind.
northernmale 3/2/2014 11:17:55 AM Report

I have to ask who designed the new part of the 3rd line? I was coming out of industrial park on to third line , there is a slopped bank on the south side of the third line. You have to pull out onto the the third line to see if any traffic is coming . As I was sitting there waiting for traffic to clear a vehicle was turning into industrial park. The vehicle behind it decided to pass it.Well there is a turning lane in the lane going west, and had a car in it turning into the industrial park. Because of the rise in the road the car going east could not see him when he went to pass. Was so close to a head on. I think it will not be long before there is a major head on here. The city traffic department should really look at this spot. There should have been a turning lane on the third line for vehicles going east to have been able to turn into the industrial park..
Gurpy 3/2/2014 11:24:04 AM Report

Weisemheimer
It`s frozen not plugged. Will drano help with ice?
Gurpy 3/2/2014 11:25:15 AM Report

pilgrim
I will check that out. Thanks!
Javaman 3/2/2014 11:26:55 AM Report

re Third Line. I have always wondered why there is a curve in that new section. Looking at the landscape there is nothing that would have prevented them from building a str8 roadway.
steelworker 3/2/2014 11:46:57 AM Report

A major waterline runs under the old road bed.
Bobby Nerves 3/2/2014 11:46:59 AM Report

BBB the Ukraine is a much complex situation than Georgia, but Putin got away with Syria and now we all owed to do something.

It's a big mistake to confuse Ukrainians with Russians. Ukrainians know how to use fork and knife.
soowat 3/2/2014 11:56:50 AM Report

Gurpy

Before you go to the trouble of driving to Canadian tire and spending the money,try using boiling water. You might get lucky. If it's brown boiling water there will probably be enough unknown crud to melt anything lol
Javaman 3/2/2014 12:03:52 PM Report

steelworker...thanks for providing that info re third line....and now I know the REST of the story.
Grump 3/2/2014 12:15:38 PM Report

Well I'm sure that reality will be sad news to you neo-con followers of Harper. The highlights of a recent poll for the Manning Institute on Conservatism in Canada on MSN News. Con. support down in B.C. from 35% to 20%. Ontario down from 35% to 25% ,Praries up a few points in the 40% ranges. Managing the economy Liberals tied with Harper. Managing Health care and Employment both the Liberals and NDP ahead of Harper. Managing poverty and the Environment, you got it Harper comes in last. 93% believe strongly or somewhat strongly believe that Election Canada's investigative powers should be strengthened. 92% strongly or somewhat strongly believe in making party leaders more accountable to their caucuses. Well my little maroons it is not the Harper Haters who are out of step with the rest of Canada it would be mouthy know nothings like you Mr. Wisen. The one thing we can thank Harper for is he screwed everything up so badly we will
get new legislation to stop an other leader from taking the liberties with democracy that Harper has.
Grump 3/2/2014 12:29:55 PM Report

Wisen my little dummy, don't you have a scroll button on your computer. Well use it. I can easily do with not posting to you, do you have a crush on me or are you still trying to sell me "How glorious things will be when Harper wins his majority"? LMAO again
Javaman 3/2/2014 12:33:26 PM Report

Grump.. Harper may do better in the next election than many think. Look at the alternatives for PM. I do not like the alternate choices at all....and I despise Harper....so what is one to do?
steelworker 3/2/2014 12:49:23 PM Report

I think that Grump wants to have a little "bromance" with wisen.Maybe when wisen gets back from Florida they can go out for supper at Wal-mart.
BIG BROTHER 3/2/2014 12:59:35 PM Report

Java,
The alternate choices of parties or the alternate choices for leader of the country? Mulcair is probably the best alternative, as in strong leader, but the NDP don't stand a chance. Trudeau hasn't really shown much, one way or the other, but his speeches resound with me. His play on the Senate may only be a smoke-screen, but it is more than Harper has done in his time. cutting the Senators loose is only a smoke=screen, until one realizes what the Senate is supposed to represent....a non-partisan second sober thought, with autonomy from influence of their party. He appointed 57 Senators, after campaigning on the fact that he wouldn't appoint any. And his judgement on those speaks to his judgement on all matters. As far as 'fixing' the Senate.....they all knew that can't be done without opening the Constitution, a near impossible task, fraught with all kinds of pitfalls.
steelworker 3/2/2014 1:03:57 PM Report

As to the Manning Institute poll...pfffft. Poor Preston is just a bitter old man who got shunted aside and now his full-time job is to discredit the CPC and suck in the senile and the gullible. Nice to see Harper at least doing SOMETHING about the Ukraine. Poor Obummer ditched the national security meeting (golf?) while John Kerry went on MSNM to whine about the Russians and crap on Putin.
Grump 3/2/2014 1:24:19 PM Report

Steely you still are not getting it. Manning is hardly the first conservative to finally jump ship on Harper but watch for others to come in short order. It's not just the voters who are leaving Harper in droves it's main line Conservatives that don't have the stomach for Harper any longer. That said you just keep your head buried in the sand or elsewhere and when you come up for air one of these times it might dawn on you. 93% of identified Conservatives polled want the Election Act to have the teeth to investigate and lay charges for robo calls, over spending and general election fraud. What part of his don't you understand. Harper will not get away with this crap again.
steelworker 3/2/2014 1:58:07 PM Report

How many conservatives have been charged? How many liberals? On another cheery note: nice to see Justin disband the Liberal senators in time for Colin Kenny to be investigated for sexual harassment and abuse of power. Typical Liberal entitled to his entitlements (including the odd free grope).
Soopaintballclub 3/2/2014 2:09:24 PM Report

You know, since this incident in the Ukraine a lot of Russia bashing has been going on. Before you say anything bad about Russia, I ask you to apply your same logic to the USA. Our media has been on a Russia bashing mission since the olypics started....all based on US news feeds. It's their agenda you're hearing. They're not telling you the truth. The Ukraine and Russia have been at odds since time began in that part of the world. That's all this is. If US citizens(or Canadian) were in the same position, you can bet your ass we'd have our troops there as well so stop the hypocracy please. Not to mention major Russian interests which they obtained through the "elected" government of the Ukraine, that the new "unelected" government is threatening due to their bigotry. If you support democracy, you have to support the elected government. Trust me, people there are mental, Russian citizens would be victims of ethnic cleansing in no time without protection. Don't say it can't happen, it happens in that part of the world OFTEN.
The USA has more troops occupying sovereign nations on this planet than any other. A large majority of them uninvited. You can bet your dollar they have CIA agents there stirring the pot as well. The only response Canada or anyone should have to the current situation is to ask them to call for a new election in the Ukraine. The USA doesn't want that, because they know they'll lose their influence. It's that simple.
Gurpy 3/2/2014 2:34:08 PM Report

soowat
Good advice! I decided not to venture out again today because it was SUPPOSE to be warmer tomorrow!! Surprise! We now have more windchill warnings! YIPPE!!
mallet 3/2/2014 2:41:03 PM Report

Grump..

There is a very good article with a timeline on the BBC Europe webpage regarding the Ukrainian situation..I think it is worth a look by all those who debate the situation...
right wing 3/2/2014 2:48:00 PM Report

"We had an agreement to lay off one another which he broke."

Bahahahahahahaha....you really are a big goof, Gump.

Yep lets hear the "when I worked in Saudi" 35 years ago story...again.
Geez, think things may have changed a tad since then....

Wisen, check out the link...sums up Gump.

http://tinyurl.com/m99bh6z

right wing 3/2/2014 2:49:12 PM Report

Gurpy

Is you tub drain still not draining?
Also, what make you believe that it is frozen?
66cherokee 3/2/2014 2:50:13 PM Report

The taxes are not the only thing that makes our gas so expensive. At one time, the gas station owners used to make 2 to 3 cents a litre profit, now it's about 15 to 17 cents a litre. Taxes are what pays for social services, so I take that. It's the gouging by the gas station owners that gets me.
right wing 3/2/2014 2:52:56 PM Report

"your"
steelworker 3/2/2014 2:53:45 PM Report

Good thing I gassed up across the river on Wed. (on my way to pick up Wal-mart chicken for the Conservative fundraiser).
flyhawk25 3/2/2014 2:54:10 PM Report

Headline in the National News about 'When humans got smart?'
Simple.
When we evolved from the swamp.Most of us...
Gurpy 3/2/2014 2:57:57 PM Report

Right Wing
It`s still not going! My tub is on an exterior wall which I doubt has much insulation. The drain began freezing last fall when the temps began to drop. At first I thought it was plugged so I tried two bottles of Drano. I`ve noticed problems only when the we hit below freezing. Also, have an unheated area below that I do not have access to.
Gurpy 3/2/2014 2:59:21 PM Report

RW
It should read, when the temps hit below freezing.
right wing 3/2/2014 2:59:44 PM Report

66Cherokee

Your post got my interest.
Are you sure you don't have that backwards.
Every site I can find on retail gas prices states that on average, currently, gas stations get five cents for every litre they pump.

They used to get 10 to 12 cents per litre on average more than a decade ago.
This is one of the reasons that the small independent operators are no longer around.
right wing 3/2/2014 3:01:08 PM Report

Gurpy

All the other drains work, i.e., basin, kitchen etc., it is just the tub.
Gurpy 3/2/2014 3:01:54 PM Report

soowat
The boiling water did not work. I think because, I do not live in the east end and the water anywhere else is just too clean to do any real damage!
Gurpy 3/2/2014 3:04:10 PM Report

RW
Everything else is hunky dory! Water and drains are great. The tub is the only water source on an exterior wall. I know it`s frozen and I just might have to tough it out until Oh, I don`t know, July or Aug.
right wing 3/2/2014 3:05:18 PM Report

Gurpy

Hang in there, I'll walk you through it.

Is there water in the tub?
Gurpy 3/2/2014 3:08:49 PM Report

RW
A bit. I pailed out as much as I could.
steelworker 3/2/2014 3:29:13 PM Report

fly:some humans are still percolating in the septic tank.
right wing 3/2/2014 3:34:41 PM Report

Gurpy

Here we go.....

Hopefully you have a shop vac or can borrow one.
You have to use a shop vac because they have the capability of vacuuming up water.
Be sure and remove the internal dust filter prior to using on water.
There is an overflow on your tub that has vents on the bottom of it, use tape, masking or duct, and tape over them, this will increase the drawing power of the shop vac.
Vacuum as much of the water out of the tub drain as you can.
Have some containers of hot water ready, does not have to be boiling just hot from the faucet will do.

After you have vacuumed water directly from the tub drain pour the hot water into the drain until it backs up into the tub.
If you have a plunger use the plunger on the drain for about a minute.
This will help in mixing the warmer water with the existing cold water.
Vacuum out the water again and repeat with the H.W., try this four or five times.
The freeze up should be just in the P-trap which is usually directly below the tub, not further than a three foot drop if it was installed to code.
If you are successful, I suggest that you then purchase a couple of containers of R.V. anti-freeze (this is non-toxic to the environment), available at most stores such as Canadian Tire, and until it warms up, each time you finish a bath or shower pour about a cup full down into the drain.
Gurpy 3/2/2014 3:39:52 PM Report

RW
I won`t be able to accomplish this today but, I will give it a shot and let you know how it turns out. Thank you!
right wing 3/2/2014 3:44:26 PM Report


You're welcome.

Let me know if you are successful.
The key is removing the standing (existing) water from the drain in order to get to the actual ice blockage.
If the drain line has been graded properly the only place that it could freeze up is as I stated in the P-trap.
Good luck.
Grump 3/2/2014 3:57:47 PM Report

rw I'll tell you the same thing I told wisen. Scroll on by, the comment was not to either one of you maroons. I can get through life with no contact to a pair like you two, the problem is you can't. Are you all OK now and not feeling tender because I hurt your little feelings? You may be a big man in the swamp but you are only one more chubby plumber's crack to me. You keep this crap up and don't come back crying when you don't like the responses you get. Your call big shot.
right wing 3/2/2014 4:17:22 PM Report

OMG...you can't buy pure entertainment like this...
I have to confess, it's responses like Gumps that keep me coming back.

Smiley face...huge grin...lots of chuckles...and the best for last....played in the keynote of Gump...ROTFLMAO D/D (double/double)
right wing 3/2/2014 4:19:58 PM Report

...my an expert, I'm guessing that Grump does a lot of crack,
but only an extra special kind...chubby crack!
Is that anything like "chubby rain".
The movie fans will get that one....
Grump 3/2/2014 4:22:59 PM Report

rw Make as big an ass of yourself as you like and chuckle plenty to entertain the posse. Very adult of you the great debater. No google B.S. to throw in? No answers to your heroes lost support? I guess no answers to anything so now you are down in wisen and Steely's class. Congratulations.
Grump 3/2/2014 4:23:01 PM Report

rw Make as big an ass of yourself as you like and chuckle plenty to entertain the posse. Very adult of you the great debater. No google B.S. to throw in? No answers to your heroes lost support? I guess no answers to anything so now you are down in wisen and Steely's class. Congratulations.
Grump 3/2/2014 4:36:29 PM Report

rw yes I really like them big. My wife is about 115 lbs soaking wet and I don't run around. That said since I don't like a dumb woman or Chubby men I guess you are wrong on all counts as usual. If you are trying to be insulting and not just putting out dumb crap you have to at least have some semblance of the truth. I know that is a tough call for an old time B.S.er like you. I guess you not only can't come up with answers to the tough stuff you can't really come up with it at all.
right wing 3/2/2014 4:36:58 PM Report

Grump,, Grump, Grump..."Make as big an ass of yourself as you like"...really...that's the best you got.
Well I've news for you pal, you took the Stanley Cup of that one a long time ago.
...as far as debating with you, I've tried that one, there is nobody, period, on this site that throws out more unsubstantiated statement than you.
When challenged...see your above responses, it explains it all.

Have a great day...and lay off smoking all that chubby crack.
right wing 3/2/2014 4:40:15 PM Report

Good Lord!!!
Hahahahaha....Grump, like really stop...do you really want to help me crush you that bad...bringing your poor wife into it.

O.K., pistols at dawn, meet you at the dump.
Dress warm it's supposed to be -40 wind chill.

...climate change don't ya know.
right wing 3/2/2014 4:44:23 PM Report

"I can get through life with no contact to a pair like you two".

Well do some sit ups, tighten up that tummy a bit and maybe you can touch them again.

Grump 3/2/2014 4:44:29 PM Report

Well this has been a hoot but I have to get ready for a dinner at the Marconi and while I will miss this scintillating conversation. Ta ,ta my rotund little friend, I'll catch you after dinner. Google hard , confer with Rush, get your pals Learning, wisen and Steely to give you a hand.
right wing 3/2/2014 4:48:20 PM Report

Have a great dinner.
Don't forget your bib.
It's been a blast rattling your cage.

So easy.....
Grump 3/2/2014 4:52:29 PM Report

rw again you are so far from the truth. It has to be some kind of a hang up on your part. I'm up at 5:00 am, shower, work out for 30 to 45 minutes, have breakfast, check my mail, send a few, check the blog because the morons haven't showed up yet and then get to work. I know pretty dull but there is plenty of entertainment when the swampers and the king of the swamp show up.
Grump 3/2/2014 4:54:13 PM Report

rw Of course it's easy when all you put out is uneducated B.S.
right wing 3/2/2014 4:58:27 PM Report

So easy....

Hunter101 3/2/2014 5:13:17 PM Report

RCMP has started the confiscation of your NON-RESTRICTED rifles!

Yes, hunting rifles. Just reclassified was the Swiss Arms Classic Green Carbine. Mark my words, there will be more to come.
steelworker 3/2/2014 5:19:40 PM Report

The R.C.M.P. still think that they are working for the previous nazi-like government. Give them enough time and they will confiscate your pea-shooter.
steelworker 3/2/2014 5:21:17 PM Report

...dinner at the Marconi. It must be a meeting of the LMAO Club. Standing room only (for obvious reasons).
Gurpy 3/2/2014 5:55:00 PM Report

RW
I don`t know much about plumbing. As for the drain being graded properly.....your guess is as good as mine! I`m living in an addition to a main house. I think it was built as an in-law suite. I like it. It`s on the older side. Been recently upgraded with new flooring and a few other cosmetic touch ups. I`m very comfy except for standing in freezing water when I shower. I`ll get to work on that drain this week. I did tell the landlord when he collected the rent yesterday. He suggested another heater in the bathroom??
statusquo 3/2/2014 6:03:26 PM Report

Nazi like?

Really?...explain please....

Oh...wait a second...you equate the deprivation of firearms to Nazi Germany...i.e make it illegal to own any fire arms so the gubberment has total control. I see now.
So, having firearms would protect the citizens from the BIG bad gubberment and we would be able to fight back.
Look at the Ukraine right now, if the citizens all had Kalashnikovs, that would surely frighten the Russian tanks and well trained professional soldiers. Surely it would.
The Jews in the Warsaw ghetto armed themselves and stood up to the Wehrmacht. Tell me how well that worked out for them?
Yeah.....that makes a ton of sense. I didn't see that...thanks steels. You always thrill me with your acumen.


I do however see the futility of gun control. Switzerland has probably more automatic, combat style weapons per capita ( all registered btw.) than even the United States, however, compared to the random killings that happen almost on a weekly basis in the U.S , they have a fraction of a fraction of gun related violence.
It comes down to culture and political climate and collective schizophrenia.

gcubed 3/2/2014 6:14:26 PM Report

I received this from a friend of mine and thought you might enjoy a little humour:

PROUD Canadian

A US first grade teacher explains to her class that she is an American. She asks her students to raise their hands if they are American too.
Not really knowing why but wanting to be like their teacher, their hands explode into the air like flashy fireworks. There is, however, one exception. A girl named Kristen has not gone along with the crowd.
The teacher asks her why she has decided to be different.. "Because I am not an American."
"Then", asks the teacher, "What are you?".
"I'm a proud Canadian," boasts the little girl.
The teacher is a little perturbed now, her face slightly red. She asks Kristen why she is a Canadian.
"Well, my mom and dad are Canadians, so I'm a Canadian too.
The teacher is now really angry. "That's no reason," she says loudly. "What if your mom was a crappy hockey player, and your dad was a crappy hockey player? Would that mean that you're a crappy hockey player too?"

A pause, and a smile. Then, says Kristen, "Nope! That'd mean I'm an American!"

Hunter101 3/2/2014 6:21:56 PM Report

stats, disagree with the first part of your post and agree with the second :).
steelworker 3/2/2014 6:22:31 PM Report

stats: I guess you would be the type of useful tool who would grab his towel and his soap-on-a-rope and head for the showers. In Auschwitz. In 1939-1945. Because you trust the government. Because you got a free train ride. Because the government wouldn't hurt you or you family. For some people it's better to die on your feet than live on your knees. But not you and the rest of the liberal sheep.
Hunter101 3/2/2014 6:23:14 PM Report

P.S. the jews didn't have guns.

If the Ukraine was armed, it would be a less worthy quest for the Russians.
right wing 3/2/2014 6:34:55 PM Report

Agreed.
I may go down but it won't be on my knees with my hands behind my head.
Call it whatever you like but never forget what the armed underground resistance did in the war(s).

Tell it to Katie Worthman statusquo.

http://tinyurl.com/c8y7ltp
steelworker 3/2/2014 6:37:08 PM Report

Liberals excel at grabbing their collective ankles. Just look at what Obama is doing for Putin right now. Probably reminds O of the good ole days in Chi-town.
Hunter101 3/2/2014 6:49:00 PM Report

stats, no matter how you put it, every single country which started gun laws got more ballsy with taxing and taking advantage of their citizens. Once they knew people are next to incapable of starting a revolution they go to town.
Wisenheimer 3/2/2014 6:57:07 PM Report

gurp .. don't know how you made out .. but if the drain was able to take the drano ,the heat it produces cuts hair so it will melt ice.
mallet 3/2/2014 6:59:08 PM Report

Hunter...

The Ukraine does have an army who are on combat alert and they are calling up reservists, but I am pretty sure they are outgunned and out numbered. However that is not necessarily the case, think of all the little wars since WW2. never been about might always been who is prepared to lose the most, and who has the taste for killing. It is sad that the human race cannot live in peace, but we have never learned that, someone always has to be top dog, or have more whatever is the currency of the day, be it food, water, money or freeedom.
statusquo 3/2/2014 7:03:27 PM Report

steels,

I don't know how old you are and frankly, I don't care.
But I had the privilege to actually know folks that told me first hand how things evolved in Europe in that dark period of human history.

It's not a Hollywood movie script. There are circumstances and forces beyond your control. To equate the gassing of people to a 'soap on a rope' joke goes to show how sheltered your life must have been. You clearly display your historical knowledge gleaned from A&E and "The History Channel".
Things will unfold slowly...they creep up on you....next thing you know you have friends and even family you are no longer able to trust.
It's diabolical.....having a gun will do squat in such circumstances. What you need then is a sophisticated network, connections and help from powerful outside forces.
You and rw can masturbate as long and as often as you like to Clint Eastwood movies, but in an event like Government mandated genocide you two clowns would be as helpless as anybody else.
What we need as a sentient, compassionate society is a willingness to fight against crass inequality and ditch ideological mantras .
Gurpy 3/2/2014 7:08:48 PM Report

Weisenheimer
RW provided me with step by step instructions. I`m leaving the frozen drain until this upcoming week. I`ll take a run to Canadian Tire & get what I need.
Wisenheimer 3/2/2014 7:08:57 PM Report

Mallet .. the Russians are never going to give up the Black Sea Naval Base .. the only one that doesn't freeze up in the winter, neither would the U.S. the Chinese or anybody else.
Best case will be Crimea separates and becomes part again of a new U.S.S.R.
Be happy that the I.C.B.M.s that used to be mainly based in Ukraine have been mostly disassembled.
statusquo 3/2/2014 7:13:41 PM Report

"Be happy that the I.C.B.M.s that used to be mainly based in Ukraine have been mostly disassembled"

Or so we've been told.


right wing 3/2/2014 7:15:44 PM Report

What we need as a sentient, compassionate society is a willingness to fight against crass inequality and ditch ideological mantras .

Really stats...Clint Eastwood movies, I mean give me some class...I like to do it to Molly from Mike and Molly...word has it she looks just like your Darlene.

If you want to use the "I had the privilege to actually know folks" route so did I, grew up with a whole lot of them much my senior now.
So perhaps you can explain how we fight against "crass inequality and ditch ideological mantras", you know, those that just decide to invade and eradicate....I know in a perfect world we could all "hate war" on the same level.
right wing 3/2/2014 7:19:23 PM Report

Gurpy

You mentioned that you have a landlord.
I was assuming that you owned the house...you can still follow my instructions but I would tell the landlord to look after it as this must be corrected...stagnant water is a health and safety issue.
A professional on site will have that drain thawed in no time.
Another heater located where the problem is not originating will do squat.
right wing 3/2/2014 7:29:35 PM Report

"next thing you know you have friends and even family you are no longer able to trust."

Stats,

The father of a a childhood friend of mine spent four years in a prison of war camp.
They experienced "friends" that they could no longer trust...they usually got hung from the neck until dead during the night.
Everybody reacts differently when faced with circumstances that as you stated are "not a Hollywood movie script", but to state that having a gun does squat...sorry but I'll take the advise of those that have actually faced such tyranny and it ain't, "a gun?, Geez, no thanks.
statusquo 3/2/2014 7:30:03 PM Report

rw,

you're evasive! You never offer solutions....

It's indicative of your myopic world view and posting resume... you repeatedly start heated
conversations, then ignore the questions of anyone that
doubts your claims. If you want to come in here and actually show us a reasoned, intelligent counter point...be my guest! I am willing to listen.


Your repeated choice to ignore questions and continue making
statements, often disrespectful statements, means you're not
interested in having a real, respectful debate, you're only
interested in a one way shouting match.
I am fine with that. I do it myself.

I may have pissed off some posters in here, mainly about religious matters, but I made my points clear.
In this event you seem to believe that owning weapons might be the answer to prevent genocide......seriously?
right wing 3/2/2014 7:39:37 PM Report

They may not be the solutions you agree with but then again I don't care if you agree with them or not.


Really, and your solution to genocide was what?
...a typical fuzzy wuzzy wouldn't it be great if we lived in that type of world statement.

...and I never stated on here that the answer to prevent genocide was simply to own weapons.
...but tell me this Sir Crow Lot, when the villagers in Africa were being brutally butchered with machetes do you think they could have done it if the simple minded villagers turned up with shotguns.

Like I said in a perfect world machetes and shotguns would not exist but seeing as many don't live in that utopia...your "solutions" are what again.....
right wing 3/2/2014 7:42:03 PM Report

...and I doubt you've seriously listened to anything except the air deflating out of your Darlene after a rough Saturday night.
Wisenheimer 3/2/2014 7:47:00 PM Report

Stats .. Hitler was bound and determined to take over the world. If not for the huge mobilization of the allies he would have won the day. Pussies like Obama and Justin Trudeau ,are very bad choices to lead your nations in times like these. You vote for them to your peril.
Bobby Nerves 3/2/2014 7:48:48 PM Report


Hold the horses with the Ukraine, Germany Chancellor Merkel intercede with Putin and Tovarich Vlado accepted to initiate a dialog with the Ukraine.


steelworker 3/2/2014 7:50:42 PM Report

stats would wait for Rambo or John Wayne to show up to save his freshly showered ass. Leaving the heavy lifting to someone else is the liberal way. Maybe he could change his name to Neville (you know-that guy).
right wing 3/2/2014 7:52:13 PM Report

Careful Wisen you will be accused of never offering solutions...apparently stats always has answers and solutions.

Just wait for it...one is sure to come.
statusquo 3/2/2014 7:54:46 PM Report

rw,

are you seriously suggesting that the genocide in Rwanda would have been prevented by handing out shotguns?
There will always be someone with a bigger stick .
Keep Darlene out of it...Darlene is invoked by fundamentalist Bible freaks that have run out of ammunition and/or meds....you should be above them.....should, but I am not sure...
right wing 3/2/2014 7:58:29 PM Report

Stats

How about just a nice quite game of blind mans bluff...

Like stop playing the lame brain stats...although you are great at it when you want to be...no I am not saying that handing out shotguns was "the" solution but if the villagers that were being hacked apart had been armed you tell me that the body count would have been as high.
right wing 3/2/2014 7:58:51 PM Report

"quiet"
BIG BROTHER 3/2/2014 7:58:58 PM Report

Now your swimming in it SQ. These guy's are like quick sand. No matter how much rationale you put on their plates, they simply refuse (or are incapable)to develop a thought.

Now Obama weak....Dubya strong; Trudeau weak....Harper strong. Seems to me, Trudeau, the 'pansy' liberal, kicked Brazeau's proverbial ass, Harper's choice for something or other. Apparently not boxing. Could have been his 'nice' hair-do. And let's not talk about Dubya's strength....draft dodging doesn't look good on a President's resume.
Wisenheimer 3/2/2014 8:00:51 PM Report

All you atheists out there need to watch the new series of "Cosmos". Especially watch the pics from "Curiosity " the surviving Mars Rover. If you can't marvel at the picture of Earth from Mars, a blue "star" from millions of miles away you have no soul. All Astronauts concur.
BIG BROTHER 3/2/2014 8:00:55 PM Report

....especially when that particular President likes to start illegal wars and send young soldiers into harms way for no good reason.
Gurpy 3/2/2014 8:01:01 PM Report

RW
I told my landlord yesterday when he picked up the rent. You`re right about it being a health & safety issue. Does not matter where or who you rent from, these guys do whatever they want!
I love my place! The good outweighs the bad and my home will never be perfect until I am the owner! I take good care of things.
right wing 3/2/2014 8:01:18 PM Report

So following your logic the one with the biggest stick automatically wins, correct.
Might as well as lay down and die....
There you have it then, the perfect argument to winning the the arms race.
You see stats, I knew you had some conservatism in you.
statusquo 3/2/2014 8:04:18 PM Report

Wisen,

Why is Hitler the ultimate evil?
Under Stalin more people were starved , killed and sent to gulags. The Japanese killed more Chinese than Hitler gassed Jews. How about the deliberate starving of the Irish by Oliver Cromwell? Did you ever read the deeds of the Belgians in the Congo?
Why is it I like dogs more than humans?
right wing 3/2/2014 8:04:38 PM Report

Good Lord it's B.B. with the Bush fetish...not the kind your thinkin' either.

Well hey Obama the world healer has been in office for how long now...so how's that lets stick our head in the sand method working for him.
Send out the drones.....
BIG BROTHER 3/2/2014 8:06:13 PM Report

I think the point is, nobody wins...
right wing 3/2/2014 8:06:18 PM Report

Gurpy,

Not when you go to the proper authorities they don't.
Remember the squeaky wheel gets the grease...just ask stats.
right wing 3/2/2014 8:07:26 PM Report

B.B.

Really, I thought all of us in the free Western world were making out alright.
Now why is it again that we get left alone....
statusquo 3/2/2014 8:10:08 PM Report

rw

"So following your logic the one with the biggest stick automatically wins, correct."

Yes! That is correct...with the exception of Vietnam and Afghanistan.

But statistically speaking yes. And so, I am for state sponsored education and rewards to kids with high marks in physics .
(Big Fat Smiley face)
Wisenheimer 3/2/2014 8:10:11 PM Report

Stats .. verification is a huge part of the "Start Treaty". Americans and Russians move freely, and have for years been dismantling the weapons included.
BIG BROTHER 3/2/2014 8:12:23 PM Report

Left alone....ahahahaha....pleasant dreams sunshine. 9/11 wasn't a fluke; it is just the beginning.
Gurpy 3/2/2014 8:12:26 PM Report

RW
There aren`t any proper authorities as you put it. Trust me I know! I am no longer 25yrs old, I`m not well and I don`t think I care anymore. This guy is my last landlord! I told him that the day I came to see the place. After the crap I tolerated in my last place run by "professionals" This is PARADISE! Boy could I tell you stories!
Wisenheimer 3/2/2014 8:13:41 PM Report

Stats .. say something intelligent fast, or I'll think you believe Dubya was behind the 2001 attacks.
statusquo 3/2/2014 8:17:03 PM Report

Wisen,

What?

You may disagree with me, which is fine.
What did I possibly say to stump you?
Thrill me...please.
Wisenheimer 3/2/2014 8:17:04 PM Report

I'm getting a better take on who may be a "low information voter."
right wing 3/2/2014 8:17:37 PM Report

statusquo

You are correct but you can thank the liberalism ideology, you know the Jane Fonda's of the world... for Vietnam and Afghanistan having not been won.
Vietnam was lost more at home than it was in the field.
The "biggest stick" is not allowed anymore...to inhumane you see...you can video tape hacking off heads but if you put one bullet through a Mosque....look out there is hell to pay.
Obama gets to look good using drones...even though comparatively they kill as many innocent civilians.
I really hate to say it but IMO, it is going to take another flattening of a country to settle a lot of this bullshit down.
Wisenheimer 3/2/2014 8:18:29 PM Report

"Big Fat Smiley Face".
steelworker 3/2/2014 8:20:01 PM Report

If the left bitches about Dubya still I wonder what they say about Obummers' tour of duty in the Kenyan army.
Wisenheimer 3/2/2014 8:20:47 PM Report

"Big Fat Smiley Face" is akin to Grump's LMAO. If the shoe fits.
right wing 3/2/2014 8:20:49 PM Report

B.B.

You never fail to disappoint.
You're spending those certificates on to much fatty foods...try some oily fish.
If you require I can explain it to you.
right wing 3/2/2014 8:21:52 PM Report

...and Bush was a draft dodger...if he was I'm guessing he got a ton of advice from Joe Biden cause he was the king.
Wisenheimer 3/2/2014 8:32:03 PM Report

"Dudya" must be the most influential President in recent history ,if he's still responsible for the ills of the U.S.
Obama must be the most useless President in recent memory if he still can't stop blaming "Dudya" for his short comings.
The debacle in Ukraine is Obama's Waterloo, and shows what an ineffective leader he has been.
It's wonderful that America has it's 1st black president. Too bad he's such a bad choice.


Wisenheimer 3/2/2014 8:33:25 PM Report

"Dub"
statusquo 3/2/2014 8:34:25 PM Report




rw,



"You are correct but you can thank the liberalism ideology, you know the Jane Fonda's of the world... for Vietnam and Afghanistan having not been won.
Vietnam was lost more at home than it was in the field."

True, I won't argue that.

"The "biggest stick" is not allowed anymore...to inhumane you see...you can video tape hacking off heads but if you put one bullet through a Mosque....look out there is hell to pay."

Also agree...if it were up to me I would nuke Mekka and Medina..the Sudan ...Egypt....maybe the entire sub Saharan continent...but...I can't.


"Obama gets to look good using drones...even though comparatively they kill as many innocent civilians."

Really? Innocent civilians?....what a shame that is....what? less than the Christmas bombing of Hanoi? the fire bombing of Dresden or Hamburg?

Hiroishima?...Nagasaki?


"I really hate to say it but IMO, it is going to take another flattening of a country to settle a lot of this bullshit "

Total war is a cathartic cleansing if you will.....we do drive Hondas now do we?
joewho999 3/2/2014 8:35:54 PM Report

Gurpy Try a dipstick heater I dont know if they sell them any more. Mine broke a few years back. sorry.
Grump 3/2/2014 8:37:03 PM Report

Boy what a bunch of dumb asses. Guns get reclassified and banned on Harper's watch but it's the Liberals fault. You maroons are out of step with the world and it's not the world that is wrong. You whack jobs are not worth arguing with or responding too. You are right Status just a flamer who never responds because likely he can't. I know it's traumatic for you Harper hero worshippers seeing him go down the drain where he belongs but suck it up.
steelworker 3/2/2014 8:41:47 PM Report

Like I said earlier: the RCMP is acting like they still work for the Liberal government and are "just following orders".
Jimssm 3/2/2014 8:50:34 PM Report

rw

With all due respect...

Regarding your reference to African genocide and simple villagers having shotguns reducing the death toll... you don't know what you're talking about.

.Those that were murdered had equivalent weapons to those of the agressors.
steelworker 3/2/2014 8:52:58 PM Report

When the Lords' Resistance Army rolls into your neighbourhood you better have something a little better than a machete.
statusquo 3/2/2014 8:55:14 PM Report

"steelworker 3/2/2014 8:41:47 PM Report

Like I said earlier:|"

Good thing you mention that you actually said something "earlier"...

I wouldn't want to miss any of your posts. Concise..to the point...funny as hell... and abysmally stupid!

Lo..fing L
statusquo 3/2/2014 8:58:52 PM Report

When are you knuckle dragging assholes going to realize that weapons are not the solution to systematic genocide?
It is far more complex than that.
Jimssm 3/2/2014 9:01:47 PM Report

steely...

You're another one ...

Tell me what little you know about the LRA... since my wife and 8 other women are travelling through the area they control at this very moment.
Jimssm 3/2/2014 9:03:43 PM Report



The West planted the seeds for the Rwandan genocide, and a simple plane crash triggered it.

joewho999 3/2/2014 9:07:28 PM Report


I read a couple days ago that Canada sold thousands of smooth bore rifles to Ukraine Interests. These are large bore shot guns.
statusquo 3/2/2014 9:12:57 PM Report

Jim,
I cannot comment on Rwanda....but I can on the Congo. I've had the opportunity to work with someone deeply affected. The Belgians were absolutely ruthless and "scummy" during their illegal occupation. We in the West react with dismay when confronted with acts of violence but fail to see the reasons why. We are directly responsible!
statusquo 3/2/2014 9:17:18 PM Report

joewho999 3/2/2014 9:07:28 PM Report


"I read a couple days ago that Canada sold thousands of smooth bore rifles to Ukraine Interests. These are large bore shot guns."

Please post your age. Or IQ, in
descending order.

But, if you posted this while smiling I have to say I met my match!
Jimssm 3/2/2014 9:17:24 PM Report

The Belgians also caused the Rwandan genocide, and they were legally put in charge by the League of Nations.
steelworker 3/2/2014 9:18:47 PM Report

Hey stats: just wait for the book to come out. Until then feel free to pound sand.
shakespeare 3/2/2014 9:23:27 PM Report

For a thorough and frightening history read "Exterminate all the Brutes" by Sven Lindqvist.
Not much of the aloha spirit in the blue room today. It's a little cloudy here today but sun and warmth for the rest of the week. Taking a boat tour of the Na Pali coast.
statusquo 3/2/2014 9:23:55 PM Report

steels,

the book?

Wow...you actually know the concept?

There is hope.
statusquo 3/2/2014 9:32:23 PM Report

shakes,

Please come back! I can't hold them off any longer. It's like explaining existentialism to a bag of road salt...they actually mention books and smooth bore shotguns! Their monikers reflect what they do for a living!!!
I am truly lost and losing the battle.
Hunter101 3/2/2014 9:36:26 PM Report

Grump, the RCMP did all of this without the Minister of Public Safety's authority and didn't even notify him.

That is what you call a left wing bureaucracy and abuse of power. The RCMP are in for a rude awakening if they think they can get away with the same things they did when the Libs were in power.

Please tell me how Harper has anything to do with this if it was all done behind his party's back by the RCMP who apparently don't care to even notify Parliament of their actions.
steelworker 3/2/2014 9:38:08 PM Report

Hey stats: I'll put some nice pictures in my book and a box of crayons to keep you busy. I will call it "Liberalism for Dummies - volume one" or "How To Kneel Properly Whilst Getting Ones' Brains Blown Out".
shakespeare 3/2/2014 9:41:13 PM Report

Stats: I would love to be back with you ("I lie") but I can lay my hands on a case of harpoons that I shall ship to Ukraine post haste. It must be your appalling weather but there seems to be a bad case of brain freeze, judging by some of the posters today.
statusquo 3/2/2014 9:45:37 PM Report

Shakes,

What can I say...look up and read steels response.......enjoy your vacation .
Squeeze every little bit out of it.
(smiley face)

Jimssm 3/2/2014 9:48:53 PM Report

Hunter...

The Swiss Arms Classic Green Carbine is not a hunting rifle, and it was banned because the ones imported in the last 8 months can be easily converted to automatic fire.

It's a sticky situation for the Harper government.
Jimssm 3/2/2014 9:53:03 PM Report

and Hunter...

Why would the RCMP need to inform parliament when they are simply following the rule of law ?

Weapons that can be converted to automatic fire are illegal in this country. The Harper government supports that law.
statusquo 3/2/2014 9:55:17 PM Report

The recent Edmonton rampage by a guy with a knife...two dead and two wounded...
I wonder the outcome if he had an AK 47.


Guns don't kill people...sure......but an AK 47 is mighty handy.
Gurpy 3/2/2014 9:59:24 PM Report

Joewho999
There`s already heat in the bathroom. I have no intentions of running anything else on my PUC. Lke I told RW, this is paradise compared to my last place which was run by the "experts." Experts at what?? I haven`t a clue!
steelworker 3/2/2014 10:00:22 PM Report

Some people like to get personal.
Gurpy 3/2/2014 10:08:57 PM Report

steelworker
People who have nothing to hide tend to get "personal" as you put it.
Hunter101 3/2/2014 10:09:07 PM Report

Jim,

You've been told that they are capable of being converted to automatic fire.

I assure you, these rifles are modified so that they would take the same amount of work to convert to full auto as any other LEGAL semi-auto rifle.

You clearly know nothing about firearms.
Hunter101 3/2/2014 10:11:03 PM Report

Jim, these rifles were legal for over a decade.

Not one crime has been committed with these rifles, nor have any been converted. That is fact.

To put it into perspective, a Browning .308 has more ballistic power than these rifles. So tell me how these are not glorified hunting rifles.
steelworker 3/2/2014 10:12:01 PM Report

I've seen Ruger 10/22s' converted to full automatic. A total waste of a good little gun.
Hunter101 3/2/2014 10:14:15 PM Report

steelworker, and that isn't a proper conversion either.

Full auto is a fallacy that the media like to use to make firearms sound scarier and make it seem like they are killing machines.

Anyone who knows anything about fully automatic firearms knows that firing full auto misses your target 95% of the time and is used as suppressive cover fire ONLY! Hence, "spray and pray."
statusquo 3/2/2014 10:15:01 PM Report

steelworker 3/2/2014 10:00:22 PM Report

Some people like to get personal.


True enough. I am right now and Darlene is fully inflated.

See you tomorrow. can't tak now...busy....

Keep posting, I need to feel superior...my self esteem is at rock bottom.
Hunter101 3/2/2014 10:15:33 PM Report

stats, and I wonder what would have happened if the people he went after were armed, or maybe a few surrounding citizens.

Your argument is null.
Hunter101 3/2/2014 10:19:09 PM Report

So Jim, even if these imports from the last 8 months were able to be converted, why should the other 1500 or so odd Classic Green Carbines that are semi-auto and non-convertible only be banned?
Jimssm 3/2/2014 10:25:23 PM Report

Hunter...

I said the ones brought in in the last 8 months... bought in Switzerland and painted to look like the Classic Green, then imported.

For the 'liberal conspiracy' crowd, I will point out that it was the RCMP under the Libs that approved the Swiss Classic Green and the RCMP under the Conservatives that have now banned it.

And it's a collector's rifle... it has nothing to do with hunting as your original post insinuated.
Hunter101 3/2/2014 10:31:16 PM Report

Jim, the RCMP under liberal and conservative power are no different from each other. They follow the firearms act which was put in place by the LIBERALS! That piece of poorly written legislation is full of holes and gray areas so that the RCMP can manipulate what it says to their advantage.

And the Classic green was not just a collectors rifle. It was Non-restrictected until a few days ago. It could be used for hunting by law up until thus far.

Jim, what do you think you know that I don't?

You aren't a firearms expert so leave it there.
Hunter101 3/2/2014 10:34:23 PM Report

The Liberals also banned all AK-47's even if they were semi-auto and non-convertible. They banned firearms that were no worse than your average hunting rifle all because they looked "scary."

Don't try to say that the Conservatives banned this rifle and the Liberals allowed it. It is the RCMP using the Firearms Act made in 1995, by the Liberals.

You lefties try to spin everything around.
Jimssm 3/2/2014 10:43:23 PM Report

Hunter...

We can agree to disagree but I am not as gun-dumb as you think I am.

If the macho 'my gun is bigger than yours' guys (and dealers) hadn't started trying to beat the gun laws this wouldn't have happened....

The government will reverse the ban or offer compensation to owners in order to save face with their voter base.
Hunter101 3/2/2014 10:45:46 PM Report

Jim, maybe you missed this in Political Sciences 101 but the government passes laws that the police enforce. Aside from ending the long gun registry, the Conservatives did nothing to alter the Firearms Act. The RCMP are not involved in law making, just interpretation of that law.

The RCMP's decisions cannot be tied to the Conservative government just because they're in power and you think it suits your ideas better.

The RCMP are acting off terrible legislation made in 1995. Period.
Jimssm 3/2/2014 10:46:45 PM Report

Why blame bad gun laws on the Liberals when Mr. Harper has had a majority government for a few years now ?

There has been plenty of time to change it.

The fact is, they don't want to.
Hunter101 3/2/2014 10:47:54 PM Report

"The government will reverse the ban or offer compensation to owners in order to save face with their voter base."

Yeah, and rightfully so. The ban was made without them even being notified. They had no involvement until now.
Hunter101 3/2/2014 10:49:26 PM Report

Jim, I will agree with you.

They don't want to change it. That would mean a loss of a lot of votes by uneducated people who know less about guns than they do about politics.

Ask any firearms expert/armorer and they will tell you the gun laws are political bargaining chip that are useless for public safety.
Jimssm 3/2/2014 10:53:27 PM Report

The RCMP does not need to advise the government when they interpret the law that parliament passed. That's as silly as the OPP needing to ask David O for permission to give a speeding ticket on Highway 17.

The law, whether you think it bad or not, is the law. Maybe you should ask Bryan Hayes to change it and see how far you get.
Hunter101 3/2/2014 10:54:28 PM Report

The Harper government can only be blamed for not reversing gun laws.

The Liberals can only be blamed for putting them into effect and not reversing them.
Hunter101 3/2/2014 10:55:49 PM Report

Jim,

Banning firearms that were previously legal for a decade and giving a speeding ticket are two different things.

I have contacted Mr. Hayes and have a meeting with him next week.
Wisenheimer 3/2/2014 11:25:55 PM Report

The long gun registry came into being because Mark Lepine (aka) Gamil Gharbi, a muslim, with a nutty abusive father shot and killed 14 female engineering students at Ecole Polytechnique in Montreal.
The libs thought, let's punish law abiding hunters in rural Canada and get re-elected.
Justin Trudeau would do the same.
Hunter101 3/2/2014 11:29:13 PM Report

Wisen, never mind the long gun registry, Bill C-68 as a whole! It banned a huge amount of firearms that were choice for Olympic shooting and hunting.
Wisenheimer 3/2/2014 11:37:02 PM Report

Beware Greyhound Bus passengers. If the guy behind you seems a tad werid, fear not.
It's just Vince Li, and the hospital says he's all better.
Jimssm 3/2/2014 11:44:55 PM Report

Wisen...

Gharbi was Catholic.


...but nice try on playing the Muslim extremist card.
Hunter101 3/2/2014 11:48:45 PM Report

Jim, he was a non-practicing Muslim.
Jimssm 3/3/2014 6:08:09 AM Report


Hunter....
His FATHER was a non practicing muslim. Mark Lepine was a baptised Catholic like his mother. Common knowledge.
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